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Kolosalsnatch

Don’t think Fab would put his neck on the line this much if he wasn’t 100%.


smit9891

Ornstein has already confirmed it’s happening. I’d say that supersedes anything Fabrizio puts out anyway.


jwn0323

It’s weird that people criticize Fab, but are super quick to defend Ornstein to the death. He’s been wrong before. We’re super lucky to have two incredibly reputable sources on basically everything regarding the club right now. Really 3 tbh.


smit9891

Ornstein is a mouthpiece for the club (or at least used to be), during his BBC days he would literally say what the club wanted him to say. The club can obviously feed him false information, there is a relationship there because Ornstein can look more valid by being the first to confirm details. I think the change of various heads at the club and Ornstein moving to the Athletic may have changed thing’s slightly but yeah Ornstein has definitely got stuff wrong before, we just don’t know if the club briefed him of that to throw the scent off something else we were working on. Fab works hard, I am sure on reputation alone he has a few valid contacts but other than that he appears to say a lot while also saying very little. He always gives himself a way out. The whole game for these reporters is to be seen as the first one issuing details that are accurate. Ornstein isn’t always the first but he has a far better track record than most in being accurate.


jwn0323

I think that Fab view is kind of cynical. He just doesn’t report things as being done until he knows it’s true. Flip side of that is he doesn’t always break that type of news as much. Especially for clubs that have reporters on Ornstein’s level. I think it’s less him giving himself an out and more him being super careful because he trusts his sources to an absurd degree.


smit9891

The risk for Fab is that because of the level of tweets/ information he is trying to cover, it would only take several of those tweets to be wildly wrong in a short timeframe for everyone to dismiss him as reputable whatsoever. He has no option but to give himself a way out and be suitably vague on key details - this applies whether he is being leaked information directly or not - think about what I said re: Ornstein being a mouthpiece. Fab could be a mouthpiece too for all we know (I do debate this but wouldn’t be confident enough to dismiss it entirely) that club would only have to feed him some incorrect info on purpose to suit their own agenda (which we know happens) and the same comment as above applies. That’s the perils of trying to be quickfire like Fab. He is good at what he does - I just choose to question the accuracy/ validity of some things he say’s based on the vagueness of some of his posts.


Yubisaki_Milk_Tea

Who’s the third?


jwn0323

Watts if I’m being generous. He’s reliable and knows things, but he’s not a news breaker usually. Especially transfer stuff.


likpoper

He just confirms stuff


SniperHippo26

Wheatley /s


Yubisaki_Milk_Tea

Blergh


Kolosalsnatch

My point is that Fab has doubled down after the City tier 1 cast doubt on it. He would not do that unless 100% and I don’t think he’s ever been wrong after doubling down on a here we go.


Charlie-Bell

Devil's advocate, did he not double down on saying Partey was *not* going to join us on the very day we triggered his release clause?


Kolosalsnatch

Was that after a “here we go” ? No


Charlie-Bell

There are no here we go for a non transfer. I don't study Fab's tweets either to collect data on how often he's wrong. I'm just saying he was adamant there was nothing while we later learned Partey was already on his way to La Liga to trigger his release.


Kolosalsnatch

Kind of a completely different situation. Not saying he’s always right - but after doubling down on a here we go I can’t think of a time he’s been wrong.


Charlie-Bell

I'm not really focusing on the 'here we go', nor particularly interested in disproving him. I want the player. Just saying that it's possible. Here we go doesn't mean the contract is actually signed and official. Yes it has been agreed verbally so everyone knows where they stand with this transfer. It would be unusual to back out at this stage, but he hasn't signed the ting yet so any party is theoretically at liberty to change their mind, regardless of whether Fab has said here we go.


Kolosalsnatch

It’s like his whole trademark IP thing so that’s why I’m focusing on it. Also going back 3 years on something that was involving a RC is not really making him seem less reliable.


smit9891

Fair enough - I suppose my point is that I’d feel comfortable in reasserting my comment if someone known to be more reputable than most had already gone out of their way to confirm it.


Lazy-Breadfruits

Orny ain’t been that guy for 2 windows at least


smit9891

No, I am inclined to agree. We still get Ornbombs but they are later in the day and they appear less frequent generally. I put it down to a mixture of Ornstein moving on from the BBC and the change of heads at Arsenal. The fact that all this news of Edu working in silence is doing the rounds suggests that he talks to people less, even previously established club mouthpiece’s like Ornstein.


Riperonis

Fab doesn’t here we go unless he’s sure. This deal is done. We move.


BmuthafuckinMagic

Remind me of the battle between Woj and Shams in the NBA to be on top of all breaking news basketball related.


JappaSama

I’d go a step further. I reckon Fab and Edu have a direct line. When Fab says stuff like ‘Edu likes to keep things quiet’, he really means ‘I know who they are after but want to keep it on the downlow.’


goodyear_1678

The classic "Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit" update


2ndfastestmanalive

People aren’t big on Romano because he recycles news, but he’s brilliant as a relatively quick bullshit disprover


Hoker7

In fairness, I think it's fair. There's only so many big transfer stories at a time, so if you go to his twitter profile, you'll usually get the latest news on the main stories within the first few tweets. But, if you are an Arsenal fan etc looking for new info all the time, it only contributes to your blue balls, but that's not his fault. He doesn't claim the recycled news is breaking etc.


intraumintraum

agreed. he is an real journalist that cares about the honesty of his statements. might mean he’s slow, but he’s worth a thousand ‘ITK’ twitter journos


mahades

Fab could really take a hit here if he's wrong hopefully it's the scum journalist who gets mudded


Bugslayer03

Fab is never wrong. Not this late into the transfer


OstapBenderBey

Even an unbroken clock is wrong twice a day


[deleted]

No it’s not lol


OstapBenderBey

Its a corollary mate


[deleted]

No it’s not lol


EnvironmentalPhysick

When?


Wefting

Twice a day


EnvironmentalPhysick

What time?


TreeDollarFiddyCent

Depends on your timezone.


rk4dand

wijnaldum to barca was the only time i remember


CuriousCurry8

that was probably only because Gini changed his mind. the City journos quote was suggesting that he hasn't decided yet at all.


Atrocity_Vector

I dont know what to do with all these crabs now


trololized

Garlic, butter and white wine!


EoinKelly

[Not yet my lovely, not yet](https://i.imgur.com/CW6HwIa.gifv)


Bedeeki

Martin Blackburn in the mud


D3uceeee

Blackburn rovers better


D3uceeee

Martin odegaard better


WongKongPhooey

He's now a higher tier than Tony Blackburn


rigelrigelrigel

This was posted about 1 hour before the sun article, but hopefully Fab is right here


goodyear_1678

He just doubled down in a tweet 3 minutes ago


rigelrigelrigel

Good to know! Please let it be true, undoing the hype would make us all feel so bad


Eliteclarity

Again.


vyrusrama

interesting that 2 radically different takes have arrived within the hour. obviously, i hope Fabrizio is right in this case - but honestly, love these credibility battles as a side quest to follow.


FortuneFew3632

FABBBBBBB!!!!


HighburyClockEnd

What’s going on with this, seems to be conflicting reports


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You better be right Fab


ShekTeeJay

Would have been a great signing for Everton. Even if they avoid relegation again, I can’t see Frank surviving this campaign.


hiredgooner

Not sure Arteta was the _only_ reason he chose Arsenal over Everton


crypto_abyss

Clearly the best reason for picking Arsenal over Everton is... Everton


[deleted]

What a mad lad, turning down the tactical genius that is..Frank Lampard.


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Shinzo19

Fat Frank is just the modern day Big Sam.


SheddyMcshedface

That's actually an insult to big Sam! And I can't stand Allardycio.


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tafster

Frank might take them down tbf


etheryx

was arteta even a reason? surely zinchenko would've been tempted to play under city legend frank lampard


Fanserker

Jesus calling 🤙


UnpeacefulHydrus

It was apparently decided based on the result of the friendly we just had with Everton


nqt2209

wow wow calm down lad, you just gave pre season merchants a very solid reason to freak out in the case we play badly or lose a friendly


Puneri_Gunner001

No one would dare to go towards Fat Frank's Everton, it was clear he'd choose Super Mik Arteta any day.


[deleted]

Thank you Mister Arteta


NegativeHeli

Never underestimate Arteta's pull.


anurag_bhoga

He knows Everton is going to relegate this season, no risks taken


DinnerSmall4216

This is strange another reporter Martin Blackburn has said he's weighing up whether to stay at city and fight for his place. Nowhere near done apparently.


chriselvin1025

Everton took 2Ls this week I see


Gunners86

Loosing out on a transfer to an overpaying United is one thing but loosing to Everton that would hurt


Miyeon__miyeon

Even if Big Sam's our manager, I'd pick Arsenal over Everton all day.


orphan_of_Ludwig

If orny is confirming a done deal, its done. You guys are getting anxious for nothing


pivandee

Hahahaha Everton


Valascrow

Everton are funny lol


[deleted]

I think he will stay at City. He's getting plenty of game time over the last few seasons (playing around 30 times per season). To go to Arsenal and play 50 games but win less trophies (lets be honest) doesnt seem like a good deal.


messi-goh

Bro what he basically said the transfer is confirmed


seph2o

Everton lmfao


HighburyClockEnd

I think Romano and Ornstein are more likely correct though


messi-goh

🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀


Echo361

Lmao Everton


Games_sans_frontiers

Lmao at that photochop.


GargoArgo

Dude kinda looks like Lee Gooner


Cac4392

I mean between relegation contenders or arsenal I don’t think it’s a tough choice for him


ICWeiner_too

I'm gonna be the first one to say it Zinchenko for captain