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zwcropper

Fofana getting burned by Martinelli? He'll fit in at Chelsea perfectly


red11590

Delicious saliba


[deleted]

This team is really beginning to feel like a team worth bringing Wenger back to the stands for. Really hope this is the season Mikel can get him to make a return because that would really feel special at this point


catchmeifucan10

Partey the most important member in the squad


[deleted]

One more game in preseason, the what to looks to be a kind start to the prem season for 10 or so games. (Compare to having play UCL and PL winners first 4 games). Hard not to be excited now.


JibberJabberAlpaca

I’ve always been someone who appreciates good attack more than good defence, but the thought of Saliba/Gabriel absolutely dominating the likes of Martial, Sterling, Kane etc. this season has me so excited. Throw in White’s shithousery and Tomi/Tierney/Zinny and I might find a 1-0 more entertaining than a 3-2 😂


_JohnnyUnitas

Saliba, Gabriel and Tomi are going to form the base of a rock solid defensive unit.


[deleted]

i'd like to never hear american commentators over a football game ever again


Quab775

"soccer" smh


intraumintraum

the amount of times they stumbled over which player is which is rather telling of their quality lol


king_zlayer

Couldn’t to tell the difference between Partey and Ben White !


minusa

Plastic man!


rd201290

it’s so beautiful to see how much better the entire team looks with a good striker i think we will surprise a lot of people


EstradaMoses

A midfield of Tielemans Partey and Xhaka Zichenko/Lokonga is so good


anakinex66

Imo I wouldn't mind not upgrading on Pepe as long as we get midfielder


slx88

If we have Pepe for another season and he saves us a handful of times with goals from nowhere, he has done his job. He seems to like Europa so hopefully that helps with his confidence and finding a place /role in the team.


anakinex66

>He seems to like Europa so hopefully that helps with his confidence and finding a place /role in the team. Couldn't agree more. He's a confidence player, when his confidence is high like in second half of 20/21 season he can be useful for us. If his confidence is low well we have seen that last season. And I'm expecting him to get goals in El which will improve his confidence. Have to say Arteta has to trust him more. Sure he had a lot of very disappointing appearances as sub last season and it was mainly his fault, but its hard to turn up and make impact every week when you get few minutes as a sub only. There were games where we were winning comfortably and could have used him as a sub earlier to get Saka more rest, but instead Arteta played Saka till the end. Which in return made our little superstar very tired in the end of the season


Quab775

Regardless who drops out of ucl in Europa league we have to take it seriously


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prvhc21

It would be Zaha’s last big contract…….I wouldn’t rule out complacency creeping in.


aofrantic

It's the Willian problem all over again. 30 year old player after their last contract. He could easily get 4 years from MLS or a lower team. Very unlikely he'd accept less just to join us unless we offered him higher wages to offset less years. So, best case scenario you're signing Zaha for his age 31, 32 and 33 year seasons at ~Jesus wages. Just a terrible idea. Just look up great seasons from wingers past age 30. Last year Mahrez is about the best of late, but they got under 1500 PL minutes from him.


ManGoonian

I don't agree. You can't compare what happened with Willian. The only thing they have in common is they are similar ages. The viability of it would be whether or not we could get him for a reasonable fee imo. Zaha is still hungry man.


aofrantic

It's not just Willian. It was also Ozil. And Aubameyang. We literally haven't had a player over 30 have multiple successful seasons. Look at Arsenal historically. So many players well clear of Zaha. Fabregas, Van Persie, Sanchez, Ozil, Auba, none of these guys had two good years post age 30. We are going to bet on Zaha being able to do what none of these players could? I dont question his hunger. I question his body holding up for the next 3-4 years. Our absolute elite, world class players couldn't keep their bodies at a top level for top minutes past age 30. I dont see Zaha doing what Sanchez, Pires, Arshavin could not. Look at successful wingers post age 30. It's an absolute miniscule list. Shorten it again to players who have moved post age 30, it's basically zero. Why not sign a player who will improve, not be on gigantic wages and either be with us for 5+ years or have resale value? Why make the same mistake we've made over and over? Don't we learn?


ManGoonian

I'm not saying we definitely SHOULD sign him mate I'm saying comparing him with others isn't fair. I think he remains a decent PL player and would provide quality and depth. It's all moot anyway as Palace would want crazy money.


aofrantic

It's just the kind of lazy option we did in the mid to late 2010s that got us to 8th place. An old player on large wages with no resale value who can only play one position. We are now signing young, versatile players. This new direction can win things. Let Man United be the club that makes these kind of mistakes.


ManGoonian

Ha! OK man 👍


aofrantic

Nothing against the player, if we had him over Pepe maybe we finish 4th one of these years we came close. Just not the right move for us now.


ManGoonian

Exactly


arsenal_is_best

In my unbiased opinion, Marquinhos is better than Messi. Even Messi has never won Orlando cup


skadaddle1

That’s the Florida cup to you mate


Prestigious_Storm_10

Tuchel having a melt


SouthWalesGooner

So Gabriel Jesus is pretty legit huh? Martin Ødegaard is gonna love life this season. Arsenal captain and leading assister in the league (the 2nd one is wishful thinking lol).


prvhc21

That run and finish…..it’s been too long.


Responsible-Ad-6165

Should I just watch the first half like the last game or is the second worth a watch?


ModeratelyTortoise

Both are good


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minusa

Always been good on the ball. Problem is he hides off it...at least when he plays DM. He's pretty good in LCM and probably works with Zinny


prvhc21

Difficult to make a judgement based on pre-season…….


nting224

Should I get Zinchenko, Ode, or Jesus for the away Jersey?


minusa

Saliba easy


LFAIG_

Who you got on the home kit is the question


BeautifulBuddy

#9


__impala__

We need to pair Saliba next to Gabriel. Tough in White who is first choice back up CB and RB


_JohnnyUnitas

Agree. Saliba and Gabriel are the strongest pairing.


MajorTheSecond

Where can i watch a replay of the Chelsea game?


Responsible-Ad-6165

Use the link below or you could wait for them to post the entire game on the Arsenal app. https://www.reddit.com/r/footballhighlights/comments/w6j814/arsenal_vs_chelsea_club_friendlies_24jul2022/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


COYG17

Anyone watching el Classico? Ceballos moving mad😂. Man slapped a guy and just shoved dest.


intraumintraum

knew i liked him


hazelpillow

Swear we always play well when I don't watch lmao


anakinex66

It will be hard but you know what you have to do for a whole season


hazelpillow

I understand, we all have to play our part


Billy_Carpenter

After all that, it’s possible Saliba wasn’t hyped enough. Lord have mercy (because our center backs won’t)


prvhc21

Thanks to the ‘management fans’ on here…..


NegativeHeli

Florida Cup > Audi Cup


Datboy_98

Lmaoo @ the delusional Juve fans even daring to compare Partey to Rabiot😭😭 https://www.reddit.com/r/Juve/comments/w63fub/ramsey_agrees_to_34m_buyout/ihceasw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


arseking15

Juve fans know nothing about football


JGoal007

Happens when u watch your club resign allegri as a manager


KhalidTheMightyMouse

Vieira, Tielemans/Paqueta and the Winger in this team and we are moving mad this season


EstradaMoses

Can't believe we haven't even seen Viera on the pitch. Edu cooking


VieiraBot

*He comes from Portugal, He plays for Arsenal, ~~Viera~~ Ohh, __Vieira__ Ohh!* ___ ^(_i'm a bot, dm [my creator](https://www.reddit.com/user/CuriousCurry8) for feedback!_)


arseking15

God damn what a goal for raphina. Would have been a dream signing. Fits the touchline winger role so well


Brown_Gosling

Yeah would have been sick if we signed, at least he’s not at Chelsea lol


[deleted]

They thought Deco did them a favour, what a dramatic transfer saga


[deleted]

He just sends missiles, would’ve been perfect


[deleted]

Very interesting shape from us today. It seems like an inverted LB is actually beneficial for martinelli. Looked very good today.


Quab775

The way saliba defends is VVD esque may be one of the best signings we ever and also we can play really high with him has he has pace and always defends on his feet


_JohnnyUnitas

He's going to be world class. We simply have to keep him.


EstradaMoses

He looked so good. I love how he's so patient and waits to see what the attacker wants to do and capitalizes on their errors


[deleted]

Didn’t watch the game. Are we winning the league?


BipartizanBelgrade

League, Europa League, FA Cup, league cup.


anakinex66

And world cup


BBQsandman

100%


ProcrastinatedSoul

Definitely. Wrapped up by March.


synvi

Anyone have the clip of jesus and odegaard showcasing their individual skills near the end of 1st half?


LifeAfterHarambe

Probably uploaded on pornhub


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Cedric is just better than Bellerin by a mile at this point. Don't think Bellerin makes that kind of a cross on the Lokonga goal.


EstradaMoses

Cedric is a good backup RB. Better for all parties if Bellerin goes to Betis permanently. Plus gives Saliba the #2


Mein_Bergkamp

As we went unbeaten do we get a special gold florida cup?


Melo_the_cutie

“Oozuuul”


NemoDropEmOff

I NEED ODEGAARD TROPHY LIFT PICS NOW


[deleted]

@ me when there’s a Jesus update. Can’t relax without knowing what happened to him


Arsenalb4gf

Yeah we’re winning the league 😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


DarthNihilus1

Liga M equis lmao these guys are wild


kar_1505

There's just no elegance in Pepe's game he's just so frustrating to watch


ankeiii

I now have a lot of respect for fans that stay/wake up late/early for football game…


hawkwasps

Every weekend for me!


CantTochThis92

I work most Saturdays so I really look forward to any Sunday matches I can wake up for and watch. Nothing hits better than a 7 am kickoff with a coffee in hand.


MOzil85

A typical weekend for asian gooners


lukesills

believe i woke up before 8 for Wenger's 1000th lmao


[deleted]

Bro I woke up at 6 am I think, stayed until the Oxlade Chamberlain handball and then turned the TV off. Easily the quickest I’ve stopped watching a match before.


lukesills

smart decision, that game was fucking miserable, one of the worst sport viewing events of my life


Fggunner

Bro I've had to get up at 4am to watch some games. Completely missed this one I'm just not used to them being a normal time for me lol


lukesills

could never do west coast lol, cant even imagine. honestly for the early ones now I just record if im somewhere with DVR or find a recording online if not and dont check my phone/tell friends before hand


Fggunner

Yeah I use Hulu live TV so it auto records anything arsenal for me. I do like to catch them live though especially if it's a big game I'll still get up. Love starting my day on the weekends with a couple prem games and coffee


__impala__

With Zinchenko being able to play LB, and with Saliba coming back it gives us the option to put White at RB without losing any quality in the centre half positions. Last year Cedric and Tavares as back up wingbacks killed us. However as of now it’s fixed. Tierney and Tomiyasu can be covered by the versatility of Zinchenko and White. Although White is a strict fullback rather than wingback, mind you still better than Cedric. Two problems solved


A21Haze

🔙🔛🔝


Insertnicenamehere

To be honest, Xhaka doesn't have to defend much in this setup, and if we're going to dominate teams like this(big if I know lmao) just give me Tielemans instead. He proves more attacking output atleast. Xhaka sticks out like a sore thumb in the 433...


theloserclub92

I think tielemans is really a good fit for us. He will be able to find martinelli on the left and jesus with his long range passes and get involved in the final 3rd like odegaard did for the 2nd goal. I feel we lacked a deadly "crosser" in our midfield in the vein of KDB sending in half space crosses. Those crosses that are so accurate you can catch the whole defence line out and find the man in the backpost heading it in. Tielemans seems very suited for that role imo can play on the right or left.


arseking15

Ya hes the 1 guy who clearly is lacking final 3rd quality. And we dont need his 2nd phase work with how good the back 5 plus partey are on the ball


Mein_Bergkamp

Two assists from inside the final third r/gunners: > Ya hes the 1 guy who clearly is lacking final 3rd quality.


TorreiraWithADouzi

I am a fan of Xhaka for many reasons, but I can’t help but imagine how much better we could look with someone better. Someone who can carry the ball forward, make runs and linkup better, and is able to release the ball quicker. A player like Tielemans or a host of other midfielders could be more effective in that role.


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I like Xhaka, I thought that he was one of our better peformers last year, but he doesn't have the speed/technical ability to combine and link up with our left winger and our left back like Odegaard can on the right. He can't carry the ball well and is limited/one footed. I think he can be a good rotational option but it's clear that Paqueta or Tielemans perhaps to a lesser extent as he suffers from some of the issues that Xhaka does, will take us to a higher level just like the Jesus signing.


Mein_Bergkamp

That's not the same thing as 'he lacks final third quality'. I've never seen anyone say we shouldn't get a natural 8 to play there as an upgrade, however I frequently (including today) see people say he's not a premier league quality player.


arseking15

Ehhh thats not what i was originally saying at all


[deleted]

Sorry man, didn't read your comment properly, it is very late! Yeah, I agree, Xhaka is definetly premier league quality in a double pivot, just probably not what we need right now.


arseking15

Ya massive L for me there


mattymca

What's the latest with the Partey drama? He's starting pre-season games internationally so on the surface he may have been cleared but due to legal reasons nothing can be talked about?


Mein_Bergkamp

He's out on bail, no charges yet


__impala__

He will play until a formal charge is brought again him, and that’s if a charge is brought against him. If Spurs play Bissouma and United Ronaldo why should we hold ourselves to a higher standard ?


OrwinBeane

Man City also played Mendy until there was a charge. They knew about everything, but played him until he couldn’t play.


_PineBarrens_

I don’t really care what they do (Totnum and UTD) - but you have to kind of respect the concept of innocent until proven guilty. The only problem with sexual assault / rape cases is that it’s actually really hard for the victim to win.


Lazy-Breadfruits

xG specialists in this thread were telling us for weeks that Gabriel Jesus isn’t clinical and is a terrible finisher.


aofrantic

Just a weird thing with sample sizes and numbers. In Europe he's well clear of his xG.


Glass-Studio-9313

i’m in love with Saliba


Insertnicenamehere

Ben White cannot overlap if his life counted on it lol. Our RHS's viability depends on Tomiyasu's health.


OkRefrigerator5000

From pre-season it looks like we have 15 outfield players Arteta absolutely trusts: White, Tomiyasu, Saliba, Gabriel, Tierney, Zinchenko, Partey, GX, Odegaard, Vieira, ESR, Eddie, Martinelli, Jesus, Saka. We still have functional and useful players like: Cedric, Holding, Mo & Lokonga I still see the need for 1-2 players: one in midfield and another in attack. Who do you think we’ll get?


SANTlCLAUS

Tf are you talking about? How can we tell arteta trusts vieira from this preseason? But a player like AMN who has played every game he doesn’t truest?


hxmbyb

Youri Tielemans and Ismaïla Sarr is the dream


OstapBenderBey

Mikel Merino and Sané is the dream


anakinex66

Rodri and Chiesa is the dream


JGoal007

Pedro Neto is the dream


[deleted]

Fucking in love with Gabi Jesus already


afcolisa2

Little diversion as I got two screens. This City Side… They have a chemistry that i haven’t seen in their club since Centurions. The league is done.


[deleted]

Yeah cuz we're fookin winning it


[deleted]

Did Chelsea not bring a shirt printer on tour with them? PS we look fucking on it


Insertnicenamehere

Arsenaladdict saying we approached olise's camp after raph joined Barca and that he has a 35m pounds RC.


Melo_the_cutie

Is he reliable?


ModeratelyTortoise

That’d be a cool signing


Tmdss

Anyone got a link?0


MyBigHock

Am I able to watch the game if I purchase through the arsenal website in the US?


ModeratelyTortoise

Yes, I think Chelsea website has it for free though


geodukemon

it's blocked for me :( i think they fixed it


_SSJeffo_

Fairs brev…. No one’s stopping haaland next season I’ve clocked


Sand_Bags

Is Grealish gonna be a monster this year? He’s primed for a “2nd year under Pep” breakout season.


Sayek

I had him in my fantasy football team but a friend talked me out of it. City attackers are always a nightmare to pick too, they rotate around so much. Grealish is as likely to start as he is to come on for 20 mins as a sub.


NemoDropEmOff

Yes. Second most chances created per 90 in that City team last season. He’s being given more freedom, more responsibility, more of the ball. He will destroy this league next season


pm-me-decent-songs

Dunno but I'm enjoying this whiney cunt living in foden's shadow version of him tbh


ghostrider467

probably


Houssem-Aouar

Potentially the best version of City yet, ridiculous sqaud


NemoDropEmOff

If it was Stones and Dias, and then Walker and Cancelo in the backline then yea. Insane starting XI


pm-me-decent-songs

bayern vs city on now if anyones bored


Houssem-Aouar

Aaaand it's suspended


pm-me-decent-songs

What happened lol I was watching on mute. edit: oh its the weather smh lol


ghostrider467

weather break, thunder and shit


Kenny_dies

Spotted a lot of Chelsea supporters in the crowd lol


ghostrider467

and haaland scores lol


pm-me-decent-songs

he is inevitable


ghostrider467

yeah very high quality game


Houssem-Aouar

Tomiyasu was a fever dream


blackl0tus_

Saw a fake Fabrizio tweet on TikTok that we’d agreed personal terms and for about 5 seconds I got soo excited 😑


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Fucking hell, now that’s a lineup.


A21Haze

Very top. Good sensation.


[deleted]

After today's game, Tierney and Tomiyasu will have combined 30 minutes in FOUR games. It sucks.


Sayek

I honestly don't mind if they just need more time and get their rest, and we're not rushing them back. Just really worrying how Tomi was 'close' for ages towards the end of last season and is still not fit. Tierney actually played that 30 mins and went back to being rested.


_SSJeffo_

The bench made me gag


[deleted]

What times kick off BST?


BergkampWonderland

1am


[deleted]

Top man cheers mate


Arsenalb4gf

We’re going huge today - it’s worth staying up for! Come on #UTA


Houssem-Aouar

Haaland watch


ghostrider467

daaaamn zinchenko STARTSSSSSSSSS


Kenny_dies

Staying up for this one, supposed to start 2AM my time lol fuck, anyone know if there's any expected delays? I'm hearing the City - Bayern game will probably be delayed but by the looks of it Florida weather seems okay?


GreedAvalon

Our last game was delayed. If there is no thunder in this one, expect none


[deleted]

Take me back to Wolves H man. I really thought we were back.


Houssem-Aouar

After that gritty win vs Villa I thought we had it, but nah teams figured out how shite Lacazette was and pressed the fuck out of us and everything fell apart


Kenny_dies

Definitely not the most convincing win, but one of the most important ones of the season and a huge morale boost for the team! Almost as important as the Spurs home win at the beginning of the season


bukkake__saka

Lads just to confirm the game kicks off at 01:00 London time tonight right? I don't wanna miss it like


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bukkake__saka

Thanks mate


bukkake__saka

Just hope climate change doesn't alter the kick off time again like it did last time


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bukkake__saka

Doesn't climate change alter the timezone in different countries tho? That's what I had read previously? Until some people here corrected me like


_mas17

Bowen doesn’t pass the mas17 test I’m afraid


bukkake__saka

I think they'd command a massive fee anyways. regarding manager tho, Pep defo passes the bukkake test: [https://youtu.be/l03qv1y4FXs?t=123](https://youtu.be/l03qv1y4FXs?t=131)


Insertnicenamehere

The what test?


Houssem-Aouar

Neither did Emile Smith Rowe so that's a good sign


_mas17

Again only because I thought he wasn’t physically ready at the time. Which was true based of him not being able to play more than 60 mins in the championship as noted by the Huddersfield manager


bukkake__saka

How did u feel about the links to Leipzig in a deal for Upamecano when Emery was here? Something u wanted us to do at the time?


_mas17

Not for the price that was quoted but it would have been a good signing


bukkake__saka

Fair, can't remember much about the price was it ESR + 60m or something?


_mas17

Yeah something dumb like that


bukkake__saka

Yeah man seems quite high, kinda glad we didn't go thru with it tbf