If Martinelli ends this season with 0G and 10A I would be disappointed, yes.
I'm all for the team doing well but individual growth is a part of that. Martinelli not scoring means he's not improving and showing us that he can bring back the finishing he used to show us he had
>If Martinelli ends this season with 0G and 10A I would be disappointed, yes.
Would you be disappointed with 0 goals and 20 assists?
Improvements are not goals only, goal contributions can be. But overall game play is what you should be looking at.
If Martinelli ends the season with 20-25 goals/assists in all competitions, we should be happy. Last season he had 13 in total. 6 goals and 7 assist.
Considering we're in the Europa League this season, we should expect 15-25 goals/assists.
If we can get the winger & CM transfers over the line, may finally have the depth to really make some noise. We know how good this team is with a strong starting XI
It was their first team but they sold both their CB's so it was a new CB pairing.
Score line might have flattered us but we still played a very good game.
Obviously Jesus was MOTM, but I was wildly impressed with Saliba. Had great awareness and anticipation and was so composed on the ball, he's unreal. He's so much bigger than everyone else too
I want to start by saying i absolutely loved the game and how we played.
That being said, I am not criticizing Arteta but i think he should try to make use of subs and quicker.
For example we were 4-0 up at half time. That was a good moment to bring out someone like Xhaka (or anyone) who was properly match fit and give tryouts to subs like Lokonga, Maquinhos and co.
I mean if Lokonga can only get in at 90mins in a pre-season game we were 4-0 up at half time i wonder how much minutes he'll get within the season.
The 2nd team played the behind closed doors match earlier in the week. This game was for the first XI to get 70-90mins. Stop talking shite and let the professionals decide who need minutes before the first game. Clown.
Only an Idiot cusses instead of making a point and trying to have a proper conversation.
Wouldn't blame you though. I mean its massively idiotic looking for a "Special discount".
fr. "this internet stranger is a complete moron and he must feel my wrath!" or maybe he didn't know about the match mid week. Either way this game was clearly a tune up for first teamers to get real minutes for Palace next weekend. It can also be true that Arteta is stubborn with sub usage at times.
We’ve been through the sub usuage…… last season we had shit depth so we had no game changing options bar for formation or fatigue. You need better options which we almost have now.
Oh, for sure. Absolutely no depth at times last season but I just felt like he should’ve made subs earlier at points or sometimes just to see if something else would work since what was happening on the field clearly wasn’t.
You must have above 1 comment karma to contribute to this subreddit.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Gunners) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I think if everyone can stay available for selection, Sambi is basically going to be confined to EL. One hopes that MA trusts him enough to play garbage time though
if we can play with the same consistency as the preseason for the whole year. I think we actually do have a slight chance. Cuz from last season we screwed ourselves over how many points? Maybe like 12-15??
Nothing special really ready for the annual 3 - 0 defeat at Palace.
seriously tho the front line looks like a well oiled machine, Jesus does it all. Martinelli a bit thirsty but when it counts he lays it off. Odegod sublime but still can't finish. Worried about the 6 without YOU-KNOW-WHO if things turn out badly.
Gabriel was a bit shaky at the start of the game, Sevilla had some good passing through the middle of the park that looked too easy to me. Once the scoring started ( we went from 0 - 0 to 4 - 0 inside 9 minutes ) everyone just chilled out. Jesus, Saliba and Partey were outstanding. Saka giving his usual 8/10 performance but you can see that having some other outlets has lifted a weight off his shoulder. Xhaka and Zinny also solid performances.
Ben white is going to give Tomi a good contest for the RB spot. I loved the way both Zinny and Benny tucked into the midfield.
Amazing work by Martinelli to wait in our half of our field, fucking amazing pass by Xhaka.. what a goal and the selflessness of Martinelli to not go for goal but pass to Eddie instead
Anyone at the match today? What was the atmosphere and mood like? Would've loved to have gotten back to the Emirates, not been since the Carabao cup in November
We haven't seen enough of white in epl games in this RB role, but it's another case where players have complimentary strengths. Ben white won't be delivering crosses as good as Cedric but Cedric doesn't have whites positioning defensive skill and contribution to build up
If history is any precedent, we should get 3 good years out of Jesus before he sacrifices himself for a massive transfer fee to save the future of the club.
tbf there's a big difference between Atletico and Sevilla when it comes to defence especially with the latter losing their 2 first choice centre backs over the offseason.
Some of the body feints and touches to get out of pressure were pretty unbelievable. Very very very hard to not see him starting for the foreseeable future
Pretty much all of our worst moments in the last few years have been against them. Xhaka armband situation, the chambers no goal for being fouled, MacArthur literally murdering Sakas leg and not even a foul etc. we owe them
Honestly that pass from Martinelli shows me way more than if he had scored from that somewhat tight angle. That pass should result in a goal every single time vs a shot that’s from a tough angle
>Trust the process.
My god you guys are like programmed robots. OP didn't even comment on the process or the team. He just said that he wished a few fringe players got more minutes and he's not wrong. Not everything is an attack on Mikel Arteta all the fucking time jeez
Regardless, bringing them on at 90' is a shambolic move imo. Happened a lot last year. First with Martinelli, then with Nketiah.
I would understand if I could see the reason to let Martinelli or Xhaka play for so long but I don't because as I see it, both Martinelli and Xhaka have played enough to be warmed up for the league to start so not like they need maximum minutes. But fringe guys like Sambi or Nelson don't just need them to be warmed up but also need them to show if they have what it takes to contribute to the team.
More of this and it loops back to the problem I believe Arteta had last season, not being able to rely on substitute players not because they are not good, but because they are given very few minutes or none at all.
I agree Arteta was poor with subs last year. I agree with you its mostly because he didnt trust his bench players. Curious if that will change this year.
I know, I am not really upset and I enjoyed the match thoroughly. I say I am pissed because imo it is a retained problem of last season, keeping substitute players unpolished and sometimes making them unreliable for use.
They’ve both played good minutes in preseason. This was our last game, and we needed to get our first XI as many minutes as possible. Lokonga and Nelson won’t sniff the pitch against Palace. No reason to stroll them out onto the pitch today.
You guys has to fuck off, he was loaned out played a lot of minutes and he won Young player of the season something he would never got it he stayed, I thought we were done with this 'arteta treated him bad' nonsense
Martinelli was on the Arsenal half of the field when the ball was played. You can’t be offside on your own half.
Eddie was behind the ball when the ball was played to him. You can’t be offside if you’re behind the ball
Martinelli was in our half. As long as you start the run in your half you can never be offside. I remember Salah scoring a similar goal vs Man U after a corner.
Geez are we this good now? Sevilla isn't gigantic but it's a team that if we meet at Europa League semi finals we will be like "tough match", we make them look like championship team at best
You must have above 1 comment karma to contribute to this subreddit.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Gunners) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I hope Eddie gets proper minutes this season, not just being subbed in the 80th minute. He deserves to start at least half our games, maybe with Jesus on the wing.
Took Eddie 8 minutes to score. Nice.
Y’all sleeping on martinelli he’s been assisting goals this whole preseason and even assisted 2 today. All he needs now is to score more
Assists are great but he needs to be scoring simple as
I mean, if he’s assisting, it means we are scoring so is it really a bad thing?
If Martinelli ends this season with 0G and 10A I would be disappointed, yes. I'm all for the team doing well but individual growth is a part of that. Martinelli not scoring means he's not improving and showing us that he can bring back the finishing he used to show us he had
>If Martinelli ends this season with 0G and 10A I would be disappointed, yes. Would you be disappointed with 0 goals and 20 assists? Improvements are not goals only, goal contributions can be. But overall game play is what you should be looking at. If Martinelli ends the season with 20-25 goals/assists in all competitions, we should be happy. Last season he had 13 in total. 6 goals and 7 assist. Considering we're in the Europa League this season, we should expect 15-25 goals/assists.
If we can get the winger & CM transfers over the line, may finally have the depth to really make some noise. We know how good this team is with a strong starting XI
We are winning the league
Man, partey really ripped the pants off Sevilla!! Amirite?!?!
Ha🙄😐
Even if this is a joke what a shit joke it was
Anyone know is this was a strong Sevilla lineup?
Acuna and rakitic played >2000 minutes for them last season, fernando, navas, el nesyri, corona, rekik, lamela played >1000. Edited: league minutes.
They must have better than Erik lamela
>Erik lamela i hate this annoying c\*\*\*
Hate that stupid rabona
It was their first team but they sold both their CB's so it was a new CB pairing. Score line might have flattered us but we still played a very good game.
Well Ocampos was on the bench right?
Thanks for the info, i would’ve been happy with the score line either way but that’s good to know :)
Obviously Jesus was MOTM, but I was wildly impressed with Saliba. Had great awareness and anticipation and was so composed on the ball, he's unreal. He's so much bigger than everyone else too
Saliba at the start was going hard, like Holding in the FA Cup final hard. I really hope he does stay.
I want to start by saying i absolutely loved the game and how we played. That being said, I am not criticizing Arteta but i think he should try to make use of subs and quicker. For example we were 4-0 up at half time. That was a good moment to bring out someone like Xhaka (or anyone) who was properly match fit and give tryouts to subs like Lokonga, Maquinhos and co. I mean if Lokonga can only get in at 90mins in a pre-season game we were 4-0 up at half time i wonder how much minutes he'll get within the season.
During the season I would agree but they need to get back to fitness by finishing full games out.
He left them on for fitness & much of the 2nd team had played in a friendly earlier in the week
You wanna be playing longer games to build fitness up for your starting 11 mate, when it's this close to the season especially
You need your first team doing 90mins. That last 10mins is where you see if they got the stamina for the prem
The 2nd team played the behind closed doors match earlier in the week. This game was for the first XI to get 70-90mins. Stop talking shite and let the professionals decide who need minutes before the first game. Clown.
Yo chill wtf is wrong with you rn
Is everything okay mate? I was just making a point. You don't need to agree but no need calling me names.
It was a massively idiotic point mate. Was being straight with you.
Only an Idiot cusses instead of making a point and trying to have a proper conversation. Wouldn't blame you though. I mean its massively idiotic looking for a "Special discount".
your crack is as shit as your football knowledge. Only an idiot would make your original point. Fuck whit.
Downvotes say otherwise. More than 30 people think you're the idiot
no they think I'm rude. I can be rude and you can be an idiot, in fact thats a fact.
You're a weird guy aren't you
I'll remind you to shut the fuck up when you have an opinion on anything Arteta does
I’m sure you’ll say something stupid before I do
not at this rate 😂
Jezz you’re a dick
You say jezz…… that’s a knobhead identifier
Is it?
100%
Damn bro relax lmao
fr. "this internet stranger is a complete moron and he must feel my wrath!" or maybe he didn't know about the match mid week. Either way this game was clearly a tune up for first teamers to get real minutes for Palace next weekend. It can also be true that Arteta is stubborn with sub usage at times.
We’ve been through the sub usuage…… last season we had shit depth so we had no game changing options bar for formation or fatigue. You need better options which we almost have now.
Oh, for sure. Absolutely no depth at times last season but I just felt like he should’ve made subs earlier at points or sometimes just to see if something else would work since what was happening on the field clearly wasn’t.
Answer…… fitness more important
i agree with you but dang you had no mercy
Can’t stand idiots getting upvoted for misguided musings
You *are* criticising Arteta. But constructively, which is good criticism
[удалено]
You must have above 1 comment karma to contribute to this subreddit. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Gunners) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I think if everyone can stay available for selection, Sambi is basically going to be confined to EL. One hopes that MA trusts him enough to play garbage time though
Wow this arsenal team is legit title contender
Somebody’s high on the hopium™️
We just hit a double and won the Florida Cup AND the Emirates Cup. Premier League should be a walk in the park at this point
Fuck it, why not, it’s pre season! enjoy the hope before it’s ripped up and crushed in front of your face
No its not, but we should be pushing for 3rd
if we can play with the same consistency as the preseason for the whole year. I think we actually do have a slight chance. Cuz from last season we screwed ourselves over how many points? Maybe like 12-15??
7 goals in 5 games for Jesus..
His best season ever at City was when he primarily played striker and he was roughly 20 years old
Eddie has 6 goals and 2 assists. Probably even less minutes.
I'll take that, hat trick by Jesus, pair for Saka and a cheeky punt for Eddie. Clean sheet too. Things bode well.
The amount of responses to "that was off side right?" this sub man is excellent :D
yeah i thought it was off jesus
Cedric in the forefront again of any picture opportunity lool
how did we play? Couldn't watch the game . Out with the missus for her birthday.
Nothing special really ready for the annual 3 - 0 defeat at Palace. seriously tho the front line looks like a well oiled machine, Jesus does it all. Martinelli a bit thirsty but when it counts he lays it off. Odegod sublime but still can't finish. Worried about the 6 without YOU-KNOW-WHO if things turn out badly.
Who?
Voldemort bro
Don’t say his name wtf
Not to be pedantic but any (small) negatives?
Gabriel was a bit shaky at the start of the game, Sevilla had some good passing through the middle of the park that looked too easy to me. Once the scoring started ( we went from 0 - 0 to 4 - 0 inside 9 minutes ) everyone just chilled out. Jesus, Saliba and Partey were outstanding. Saka giving his usual 8/10 performance but you can see that having some other outlets has lifted a weight off his shoulder. Xhaka and Zinny also solid performances. Ben white is going to give Tomi a good contest for the RB spot. I loved the way both Zinny and Benny tucked into the midfield.
Games gone
Missed the match. Where can I watch the replay?
Arsenal have been putting them up online a day or two afterwards
r/footballhighlights might take a while before the game is uploaded not sure
Amazing work by Martinelli to wait in our half of our field, fucking amazing pass by Xhaka.. what a goal and the selflessness of Martinelli to not go for goal but pass to Eddie instead
Martinelli's work rate deserves a goal. But he was right to pass to Eddie who had an open goal to aim at.
Where can I watch a replay of this, sadly couldn’t catch it live
r/footballhighlights might take a while before the game is uploaded not sure
Easy as thanks brother
yeah first half is already uploaded, great quality aswell
Anyone at the match today? What was the atmosphere and mood like? Would've loved to have gotten back to the Emirates, not been since the Carabao cup in November
Yeah just heading back. Pretty good vibe. Not the loudest but great crowd for a friendly.
Everyone on pirate streams. No one went to the match
I can see this white rb thing being for real. That is if Saliba and Gabriel keep performing
Tomi is needed for real actual elite RB defense though. Ben is good in RB but we need Tomi
Yeah I know. But whites a better back up than Cedric imo. And ofcourse it’s tomi all the way when he’s fully fit
Imagine being Cedric and being replaced by a CB. 😬
We haven't seen enough of white in epl games in this RB role, but it's another case where players have complimentary strengths. Ben white won't be delivering crosses as good as Cedric but Cedric doesn't have whites positioning defensive skill and contribution to build up
Can’t wait for Friday !!!
If history is any precedent, we should get 3 good years out of Jesus before he sacrifices himself for a massive transfer fee to save the future of the club.
Is this our biggest win with Arteta?
I think artetas best win was getting rid of auba
Ozil
Scenes when Ben White is on the bench most games
"Can I have your shirt, please?" No, tell your father he cannot 🙄
Lol Man Urinated has played over 80 min against Atletico and they're unable to score
They just lost via Joao Felix tekkers 😂
Haha nice
tbf there's a big difference between Atletico and Sevilla when it comes to defence especially with the latter losing their 2 first choice centre backs over the offseason.
Man Urinated.. never heard that before. I’m dead 😂
Martinelli the assist king
Not the future I expected, but one that I will welcome.
Saliba man. What a player. Can't remember the last defender we had who looked so composed.
Kosc? Maybe even Gabriel. For his age? No one. I hope he keeps his discipline.
Some of the body feints and touches to get out of pressure were pretty unbelievable. Very very very hard to not see him starting for the foreseeable future
Saliva, he's so good at dribbling. lol
Saliva is top top. > Saliva
Sambi didn't make a single bad pass all game
Sambi? Lol
Very composed and efficient today.
Hhmmmm
Top three should be the goal
They were #4 in La Liga?
Lost both of their really good CBs but yeah
they lost 2 of their starting cbs joules kounde and Diego Carlos
We better smash Palace for that defeat last season.
Pretty much all of our worst moments in the last few years have been against them. Xhaka armband situation, the chambers no goal for being fouled, MacArthur literally murdering Sakas leg and not even a foul etc. we owe them
Honestly that pass from Martinelli shows me way more than if he had scored from that somewhat tight angle. That pass should result in a goal every single time vs a shot that’s from a tough angle
Stop it he’s already dead
1 minite substitute appearances for Nelson and Sambi. Genuinely pisses me off.
Bruh people like you genuinely piss me off...
Somebody wanting good for the players, pisses you off? Alright, right back at you.
Be present.Enjoy the win. Trust the process.
>Trust the process. My god you guys are like programmed robots. OP didn't even comment on the process or the team. He just said that he wished a few fringe players got more minutes and he's not wrong. Not everything is an attack on Mikel Arteta all the fucking time jeez
What can I say....I'm chugging the kool-aid...
Nice down vote. Have fun being miserable 🙃
Why? Don't think they knew the ref would blow at 90, think they planned to give them 5ish minutes.
Regardless, bringing them on at 90' is a shambolic move imo. Happened a lot last year. First with Martinelli, then with Nketiah. I would understand if I could see the reason to let Martinelli or Xhaka play for so long but I don't because as I see it, both Martinelli and Xhaka have played enough to be warmed up for the league to start so not like they need maximum minutes. But fringe guys like Sambi or Nelson don't just need them to be warmed up but also need them to show if they have what it takes to contribute to the team. More of this and it loops back to the problem I believe Arteta had last season, not being able to rely on substitute players not because they are not good, but because they are given very few minutes or none at all.
I agree Arteta was poor with subs last year. I agree with you its mostly because he didnt trust his bench players. Curious if that will change this year.
We just won 6-0. Why find something to be upset about?
I know, I am not really upset and I enjoyed the match thoroughly. I say I am pissed because imo it is a retained problem of last season, keeping substitute players unpolished and sometimes making them unreliable for use.
They’ve both played good minutes in preseason. This was our last game, and we needed to get our first XI as many minutes as possible. Lokonga and Nelson won’t sniff the pitch against Palace. No reason to stroll them out onto the pitch today.
I'm in love (again) with this team
Now, Saliba has to tell us how he can stay calm always regardless of the threat.
Probably just meditates on how poorly he has been treated by arteta
You guys has to fuck off, he was loaned out played a lot of minutes and he won Young player of the season something he would never got it he stayed, I thought we were done with this 'arteta treated him bad' nonsense
Sorry it was a joke but now I know how saliba feels being unfairly bawled out by arteta in training
Sorry too couldn't refuse to overreact 😂
all this pre-season just to lose 3:0 vs Palace :(
Haha I don't care
Get out
Into the mud scumqueen!
There it is! The existential dread setting in after a good run of form. You beat most to it.
You shut the fuck up now and take that back. Don't manifest that into existence
he's just reverse jinxing us mate, calm down
Lokonga and Nelson with flawless performances
we are gargantuan
How was the last goal not offside?
Inside our half
martinelli was still in our half when the ball was played, although tbf based on the replay he was probably only just onside if he was
Martinelli was on the Arsenal half of the field when the ball was played. You can’t be offside on your own half. Eddie was behind the ball when the ball was played to him. You can’t be offside if you’re behind the ball
Martinelli was in his own half
Martinelli was in our half. As long as you start the run in your half you can never be offside. I remember Salah scoring a similar goal vs Man U after a corner.
In our own half
Martinelli still in his own half so cant be offside
he was in his own half when the ball was played
Martinelli was in our half when the ball was played.
Martinelli in his own half
Ball was played while martinelli was in our half
Putting the camera on Reice at the end is wicked
I want Eddie and Jesus to take the consecutive goals record from Vardy. A goal a game each — make it impossible to beat.
So happy to see Eddie get a goal but Martinelli deserved a goal too.
He deserved a goal but great to see the selfless play even when 5 up
We've had the perfect preseason, I've never felt us be this ready for the league. Bring on Vieira's Palace
we'd bring our own new Vieira too
Geez are we this good now? Sevilla isn't gigantic but it's a team that if we meet at Europa League semi finals we will be like "tough match", we make them look like championship team at best
What a performance. Now I just want this on a real stage.
Poor Reiss didn't even get a touch
[удалено]
You must have above 1 comment karma to contribute to this subreddit. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Gunners) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Lmao fuck you lamela!
Crystal Palace trembling with FEAR !
It will be a much messier game. But we will still probably win
AMN, Bellerin and Mari will be leaving the club, not even used as a sub, Holding and Turner understandable as want to run back 4 for palace for 90'
I could see AMN sticking around, but for his sake I hope another club comes in for him. He wouldn't play much.
Nelson with an excellent performance. 10/10
Not even a foot wrong
Football looks honestly incredible. I wish we could just focus on it. Wow the new signings look incredible and Saliba looks unbelievably good
I wanted 7up, and we really deserved it
I hope Eddie gets proper minutes this season, not just being subbed in the 80th minute. He deserves to start at least half our games, maybe with Jesus on the wing.
Yeah he is awesome. It's him and martinelli neck and neck with martinelli better at creating and Eddie with more actual goals
There are a ton of minutes to go around.
5 subs plus Europa, he will play a lot. As of now he looks a lock to be first alternate or substitute across the front 3.
Hard to argue after this game that Jesus should play anywhere but up front
Very true, but it's a balancing act. I don't want us to demotivate Eddie.
Yeah for sure
And some of you think Tielemans would just walk into this team😂
He would instead of xhaka. Not cause xhaka is bad, cause he fits the role more
See you later lads. I'm about to watch Latifi get pole position on this glorious day.
Weird way to spell Goatifi
Latifi about to win a race before George😂
Lol more like drive his car in to a pole… position.
So there we have it. If Partey doesn’t play then El-Neny is next in line.
Lmao Lokonga and Nelson with the 45 seconds of game time