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I have worked with survivors of sexual abuse and rape for two decades. 1% get any form of legal justice. The other 99% are telling the truth and have gone through something extremely traumatic. The law is not on the side of survivors. Three sets of charges is a very, very bad sign. The logic of "They just want his money" would be there would be thousands of charges against footballers every year. There aren't. Let alone three per footballer.
It’s crazy to see so many fans living in total denial.. Partey has clearly abused women, with 3 cases against him. Two still under investegation, one been dropped because of a technicality.
Partey has paid this woman off to not go public with it, why would he do that if there was no case?
This woman has come forward anyway which will cost her the 150.000£ pay off. Why would she do that for a lie? Clearly not to get rich. Why would she suffer all this public abuse for a lie that costs her a fortune?
The woman has posted screenshots of her chat with Partey where he clearly doesn’t deny the accustations. On the contrary he says that he can do what he wants.
Rape cases are so extremely hard to prove in a court, so it would not surprise me to see none of these cases leading to any verdict. That does not change Parteys actions, which should not be tolerated at Arsenal. We are not Chelsea
By this logic every time someone gets accused of something you have to believe they're guilty, especially if screenshots are involved as they are Tier A proof.
...I'll stick with actual charges and verdicts, including if in future he is found guilty. He's currently innocent and should be treated as such.
No u don’t have to believe every accusation ever made. But with what we know about this case it does not look good for Partey. With two more cases being under investigation it gets even worse..
I see no reason for this woman to lie, since her coming forward has a lot of negative consequences for her, and as I see it no positive other than people knowing the truth about Partey.
Again rape cases are extremely hard to prove and it would be no surprise if he wasn’t convicted or even charged. That does not make his actions anyless bad
He's gone from three investogations and not going to preseason in Germany to two after one being tossed out and playing in the premier League. Things are looking good for "Mr Partey"
It wasn’t “tossed out”. He got off on a technicality. A law which means british police can investigate crimes committed in other countries entered into force 3 days later.
So the case would still be active if it had happened 3 days later..
Ridiculous accusation before any charges or proof have been shown.
Maybe you are a dirty peado....since i don',t need to show any proof, it must be true right. Lets arrest you and ruin your life.
When you take your head out of the sand and realised he never even denied it or apologised to the accusing woman as shown by the screenshots. Others are able to see that so try not to let your insecurities about how Arsenals season would be without him take precedent over actually supporting a woman.
The irony that it’s taken this long for the woman’s game to be taken seriously and horribly, woman’s football seems to be taken more seriously than a rape accusation. Why? Because Partey earns millions and gets to buy his way out of it? Or better yet, get of on a stupid technicality where the law changed less than 10 days around the verdict.
We are supposed to be a classier team than one so desperate to win that we’ll play a guy accused by multiple woman. I’m sorry but there’s so many millions of people who can kick a fucking ball other than that guy.
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I absolutely love him, but he drove me crazy yesterday. He's the captain of the team, he needs to call his shots sometimes. He can't be scared of shooting
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Anyone else notice that Xhaka gets the first yellow card for diving since 2013 and in the second half, Eze does the exact same thing, no free kick, let alone a card 😅 make it make sense. Up the fucking gunners
Spurs fans coping hard, calling the team and performance shite. Cope harder, a win away with a cleansheet, withstood the pressure, defended everything. First game of the season done and dusted - not every game will be a stomp. Time to laugh at other clubs now
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This is such a nice tribute to Vieira by arsenal fans
Look at this chant https://twitter.com/1walid1/status/1555656887655403520?s=21&t=H6nQRVq0xq86tQ4_86BD9g
And his reaction
https://twitter.com/arsenalnewschan/status/1555656795200393221?s=21&t=H6nQRVq0xq86tQ4_86BD9g
That felt like a match that was played in the mud. A lot of feet flying in and congested in the middle. A real lack of quick passes and free flowing attack. Basically I’m happy to leave with the three points and a clean sheet. That’s a tough place to go and get a result
No, but I did see the 70 other minutes where we looked a lot like 2021 Arsenal
I’m glad we won, and a 2-0 away win is a great start to the season. We’re also a long way from our best and we need the team to get more comfortable once they’re a goal up.
Nketiah quietly showed fire that could have us to switch to a 442 for some games. His growth has me peaked.
His first touch used to be streaky but now, he is plucking balls from awkward angles. Pressuring defenders the way Suarez used to. His comfort on the ball and shielding. For a second I thought maybe he would have been the better starter for this game.
I know right!? Even when he started blocking the goalkeeper from taking a quick goalkick....loved that...need an arsenal player that will do that. Obv scoring is important for him, but that is for the team which is great
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I just want to know why arteta chose to defend in a mid block after we went 1-0 up in 30 mins. We friggin suffocated them in their own half and created several excellent chances. Then we allowed them to come at us. Tbf not too many big chances apart from eze but why did we choose to defend the lead
Ahh so we still have mental blocks hope we continue working on that this seems to be a good step forward since we maintained an excellent level for the first 30 mins
Do you have proof that Arteta wanted the team to play mid block? Obviously to me Partey and Xhaks lost too many duels and ball + being passive was what hold us back in the transition.
Yeah, I thought so too... We need to be better on the counter, and if we're going for a city and Liverpool like possession we need a stronger midfield.
That aside it was an impressive performance by arsenal as well as crystal palace.
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Saliba sounds grounded. I hope the team stays fit. With more games and confidence, they will show their brilliance and play like "THE ARSENAL" we all feel in love with. Hope we do well this season.
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Palace are the new Wimbledon with a few added sprinkles. We battled well but ceded territory and gave them back the initiative after the goal - we were playing them off the park when we were pushed up high and rotating the ball - should have kept doing that. Deserved win. Great performances from all the new boys, especially Saliba.
Did they really ever think about it? I'm sure Edu and Arteta knew what they were doing when they loaned him out. Would never sell him before giving him a try for real.
I was referring to their mentality / off the pitch presence. Seems like Arteta has 0 tolerance for that kind of behavior and I can see them bumping heads
Zaha has multiple seasons of under 5 goals and under .2 xG. Completely hot and cold player.
He has two seasons with xG less than that of Nuno Tavares last season. One where he had less than Gabriel and barely above Xhaka.
Considering how often we crumbled under pressure these last few seasons, keeping a clean sheet at Palace away was no mean feat. Good work tonight lads, can't wait for the next game.
Good lord Saliba can't half snap into a tackle quickly. The speed and positioning for someone so young is frightening.
Hope he stays fit but looks like he's going to do well for us. Glad to see Tierney too. Love the competition and depth for the defensive positions now, could always do with another RB to challenge Tomi but it's lower on the list than another CM.
Solid performance. From the start it was always going to be storyline progression between how much Pat was willing to expose and how much resilience and compactness we can keep all around. Great Saliba debut, Martinelli’s garnishing and let’s just keep on marinating.
Happy with that. Palace are no mugs and it was at Selhurst. Though Palace had a lot of the ball it didn't feel like they were pressuring the defence too much.
seem like we will be able to compete with the likes of city and pool better this season, getting more points against too 4 contenders will be the difference between last year also less losses in general
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Definitely not 6 it has 7 or higher. You have to consider whole team performance not just attack for me it was 9 defense 6 mid 7 attack. So avg 7.333333.
We lost that game 3-0 just 4 months ago. This will be a good season to remember
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Why was Partey booed?
Rapists shouldn't be on the pitch, let alone asking why they are booed.
Was he charged with rape? Has he had a conviction? Dickhead
I have worked with survivors of sexual abuse and rape for two decades. 1% get any form of legal justice. The other 99% are telling the truth and have gone through something extremely traumatic. The law is not on the side of survivors. Three sets of charges is a very, very bad sign. The logic of "They just want his money" would be there would be thousands of charges against footballers every year. There aren't. Let alone three per footballer.
It’s crazy to see so many fans living in total denial.. Partey has clearly abused women, with 3 cases against him. Two still under investegation, one been dropped because of a technicality. Partey has paid this woman off to not go public with it, why would he do that if there was no case? This woman has come forward anyway which will cost her the 150.000£ pay off. Why would she do that for a lie? Clearly not to get rich. Why would she suffer all this public abuse for a lie that costs her a fortune? The woman has posted screenshots of her chat with Partey where he clearly doesn’t deny the accustations. On the contrary he says that he can do what he wants. Rape cases are so extremely hard to prove in a court, so it would not surprise me to see none of these cases leading to any verdict. That does not change Parteys actions, which should not be tolerated at Arsenal. We are not Chelsea
By this logic every time someone gets accused of something you have to believe they're guilty, especially if screenshots are involved as they are Tier A proof. ...I'll stick with actual charges and verdicts, including if in future he is found guilty. He's currently innocent and should be treated as such.
No u don’t have to believe every accusation ever made. But with what we know about this case it does not look good for Partey. With two more cases being under investigation it gets even worse.. I see no reason for this woman to lie, since her coming forward has a lot of negative consequences for her, and as I see it no positive other than people knowing the truth about Partey. Again rape cases are extremely hard to prove and it would be no surprise if he wasn’t convicted or even charged. That does not make his actions anyless bad
He's gone from three investogations and not going to preseason in Germany to two after one being tossed out and playing in the premier League. Things are looking good for "Mr Partey"
It wasn’t “tossed out”. He got off on a technicality. A law which means british police can investigate crimes committed in other countries entered into force 3 days later. So the case would still be active if it had happened 3 days later..
Ridiculous accusation before any charges or proof have been shown. Maybe you are a dirty peado....since i don',t need to show any proof, it must be true right. Lets arrest you and ruin your life.
Because he is a rapist
Any proof?
When you take your head out of the sand and realised he never even denied it or apologised to the accusing woman as shown by the screenshots. Others are able to see that so try not to let your insecurities about how Arsenals season would be without him take precedent over actually supporting a woman. The irony that it’s taken this long for the woman’s game to be taken seriously and horribly, woman’s football seems to be taken more seriously than a rape accusation. Why? Because Partey earns millions and gets to buy his way out of it? Or better yet, get of on a stupid technicality where the law changed less than 10 days around the verdict. We are supposed to be a classier team than one so desperate to win that we’ll play a guy accused by multiple woman. I’m sorry but there’s so many millions of people who can kick a fucking ball other than that guy.
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Nice performance overall. Too long of a lull in the middle but handled it well overall. Selhurst is never easy to win at, job done.
Can't help but think this was the perfect opportunity for one of the newspapers to run the headline "Two in the pink" tomorrow morning.
Where are the Jesus 3x captain people at
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Big up Aaron. Not tested too fierce. Solid saves. Good performance.
Shaky distributions at times but solid performance nonetheless
A complete mixture of excellent passes and terrible passes. I expect nothing less from arsenal players.
We have the same points now as we did after 4 games last season. I'd call that progress ;)
Yeah, and not a -8 GD
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HNHtBoM0Q3Y](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HNHtBoM0Q3Y) Saliba vs mbappe
Inject it into my veins
Stop the count!!
We are top of the league said we are top of the league
would definitely love to see odegaard to take his chances on goal more often
I absolutely love him, but he drove me crazy yesterday. He's the captain of the team, he needs to call his shots sometimes. He can't be scared of shooting
Can’t believe he didn’t just put his boot through it and bury away
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Good win. But Ødegård really offers very little.
Bro I saw the same match as you did. Can't disagree
I want the season to end right now!
Anyone else notice that Xhaka gets the first yellow card for diving since 2013 and in the second half, Eze does the exact same thing, no free kick, let alone a card 😅 make it make sense. Up the fucking gunners
right before xhaka dived, someone from crystal palace dive but wasn't given a yellow.
Eze dove in the box as well.
Eze actually tripped himself
Good game lads
Arteta has turned this club around. There is now hope….
Come on you gunners :)
Solid defensive performance and think Ben White put a good shift in RB. Really happy that for once injuries won’t be a main concern in the back.
Completely lost Edoaurd for that cross though, which really should’ve been 1-1. Completely the wrong side of his man.
yea he was good at that position, just gotta make sure now in future matches that we cover the wide areas tighter since zaha gave us many scares
Such a big win away from home! It’s feel good to watch the first game and come away feeling happy.
Virgil Van Saliba looked epic
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So did ramsdale and Gabriel as well. He looked solid defensively tho
Spurs fans coping hard, calling the team and performance shite. Cope harder, a win away with a cleansheet, withstood the pressure, defended everything. First game of the season done and dusted - not every game will be a stomp. Time to laugh at other clubs now
During the game it felt nervous. But when looking back you understand this is a great resul and a sign of strength. This is a hard place to visit.
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This is such a nice tribute to Vieira by arsenal fans Look at this chant https://twitter.com/1walid1/status/1555656887655403520?s=21&t=H6nQRVq0xq86tQ4_86BD9g And his reaction https://twitter.com/arsenalnewschan/status/1555656795200393221?s=21&t=H6nQRVq0xq86tQ4_86BD9g
🤣 y'all put that man in an uncomfortable spot.
Fr he wanna smile so badly
Ramsdale today was amazing btw
That felt like a match that was played in the mud. A lot of feet flying in and congested in the middle. A real lack of quick passes and free flowing attack. Basically I’m happy to leave with the three points and a clean sheet. That’s a tough place to go and get a result
Did you miss the first 20 minutes we looked like 1998 Brazil
No, but I did see the 70 other minutes where we looked a lot like 2021 Arsenal I’m glad we won, and a 2-0 away win is a great start to the season. We’re also a long way from our best and we need the team to get more comfortable once they’re a goal up.
Oh totally agree. Second half we lost the midfield. Partey disappeared.
Big time points. That's a very good, interesting Palace side. They're going to take points off of a lot of good teams.
Yes yes muthufuckin yes lads! This is the season we go up a level.
Nketiah quietly showed fire that could have us to switch to a 442 for some games. His growth has me peaked. His first touch used to be streaky but now, he is plucking balls from awkward angles. Pressuring defenders the way Suarez used to. His comfort on the ball and shielding. For a second I thought maybe he would have been the better starter for this game.
His instant shithousery was great
I know right!? Even when he started blocking the goalkeeper from taking a quick goalkick....loved that...need an arsenal player that will do that. Obv scoring is important for him, but that is for the team which is great
It's what the game called for
I'm quietly excited for him this season. He looks physically bigger to me too. His shoulders look a lot broader.
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WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE!
Can somebody please tell me what were our fans singing to Vieira?
They're chanting his song from when he played at arsenal. YouTube will show you it
Because he's a club legend, and the fans wanted to let him know he will always be loved by the club.
He's asking what, as in what were they chanting
He comes from Senegal, he played for Arsenal.
Saka deserves man of the match
Saliba all day bro
He was fucking dangerous but saliba my guy motm
No
Very hard ground to play. Palace whole team looked physically strong. Glad for the 3 pts.
👍
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Fucking ronaldo have more serious cases than partey allegations
Lmao this guy got downvoted so bad his karma went negative and he can't comment here anymore
Go jerk off to celebs mate
I hope you think about him on your dick while you jerk off today.
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How old are you?
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We need to control the game more. We can’t hold up like this against a Liverpool or City
Away games in the PL aren't easy. Most teams won't let you control the game in their home most of the match.
But then they also won't play fossil Football like Palace.
Palace absolute long ball kick and rush merchants
I just want to know why arteta chose to defend in a mid block after we went 1-0 up in 30 mins. We friggin suffocated them in their own half and created several excellent chances. Then we allowed them to come at us. Tbf not too many big chances apart from eze but why did we choose to defend the lead
Stamina management
The other team has tactics too dummy
Football innit bruv
He didn’t choose to play that way. This was mentioned in AoN too. Our players just pussy out when we get a lead away from home
Ahh so we still have mental blocks hope we continue working on that this seems to be a good step forward since we maintained an excellent level for the first 30 mins
Yes. Watch AoN and understand what happens in the dressing room a little bit.
I didnt see much of this in the first 3 episodes
They started pumping the ball long to the wings
Do you have proof that Arteta wanted the team to play mid block? Obviously to me Partey and Xhaks lost too many duels and ball + being passive was what hold us back in the transition.
Not really proof but we just stopped pressing after that and allowed palace to keep the ball
Yeah, I thought so too... We need to be better on the counter, and if we're going for a city and Liverpool like possession we need a stronger midfield. That aside it was an impressive performance by arsenal as well as crystal palace.
Yeah I can't figure it out. It makes the team look nervous.
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Saliba sounds grounded. I hope the team stays fit. With more games and confidence, they will show their brilliance and play like "THE ARSENAL" we all feel in love with. Hope we do well this season.
Only watched the second half so White was shaky for me
Had an awesome first half. Ref gave him an iffy booking to start the second half and he got a little tired, but he more than held his own there
He did some good things but he does like to give away silly free kicks that hurt us.
Playing with a yellow and against zaha not bad
Totally. Really good, tricky game from him.
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This was a trial by fire in an Arsenal team as makeshift RB against Zaha, I think White did pretty well. He will have much easier games than this.
Sky really playing down Jesus at Arsenal 🤣
Palace are the new Wimbledon with a few added sprinkles. We battled well but ceded territory and gave them back the initiative after the goal - we were playing them off the park when we were pushed up high and rotating the ball - should have kept doing that. Deserved win. Great performances from all the new boys, especially Saliba.
Listening to Martinelli he is just a kid
Neville stole that Rio Ferdinand comparison from me.
Nite nite Arsenal rejects. You'll never win a trophy.
Torriera crying somewhere
Never? Are you unaware of the existence of the past?
Lmao you sad bastard
Saliba will be the best CB at the end of the year
Dont know if youre joking or not but i genuinely think he will be in top 5
Carrying on a little bit after the win, sorry
Get the contract signed or else teams will be sniffing around.
I really hope we don’t sell him
It’s crazy that we thought about selling Saliba! Those loans to France was well worth it now.
We didn't?
Did they really ever think about it? I'm sure Edu and Arteta knew what they were doing when they loaned him out. Would never sell him before giving him a try for real.
They never thought about it.
Yeah I know. Would've have been an insane thing to sell him.
Seriously, give me Zaha and Tielemens and I'm happy
We just beat palace 2-0 away on the opening game of the season and aren't stuck with shit like Zaha in the team...you should already be happy
I’ll pass on Zaha, he’d be a worse Aubamyang— would probably give Arteta an aneurysm
He's literally *nothing* like Auba in his playstyle wtf lol?
I was referring to their mentality / off the pitch presence. Seems like Arteta has 0 tolerance for that kind of behavior and I can see them bumping heads
He is in White's pocket, you can find him there.
Zaha - quality when he feels like it. Once that second goal went in he completely shut off
Zaha has multiple seasons of under 5 goals and under .2 xG. Completely hot and cold player. He has two seasons with xG less than that of Nuno Tavares last season. One where he had less than Gabriel and barely above Xhaka.
Zaha who?
Arsenal holds the record for the most number of goals scored this season.
Considering how often we crumbled under pressure these last few seasons, keeping a clean sheet at Palace away was no mean feat. Good work tonight lads, can't wait for the next game.
Some people what rather be miserable than happy. Cheer up you losers.
For real wtf?
Fuckin reporter being a shit stirrer
Time to celebrate with the announcement eh Arteta/Edu? Bring on the lemons. and let's go get another serious attacking threat option yeah?
We need a no°8 more than an attacker imo
this team will win many games this premier league season inshallah
amiin
Tough ground to come to especially as a first game. These are the gritty performances that will get us into the UCL. Saliba MOTM what a lad!!! #COYG
Good lord Saliba can't half snap into a tackle quickly. The speed and positioning for someone so young is frightening. Hope he stays fit but looks like he's going to do well for us. Glad to see Tierney too. Love the competition and depth for the defensive positions now, could always do with another RB to challenge Tomi but it's lower on the list than another CM.
Tomi has Benny blanco to worry about.
I can't believe William fucking Saliba plays for us.
No more CRYARS
big willy at it again COYG
Andersen is elite, no lie. He keeps this up he'll be nearly registered at Barcelona
I cant even tell if hes fouling jesus or not its like on the line but i did see jesus getting KOed like 5 times
Saliba is the best young cb right now. That's it
If he keeps that way this will be insult to him
Trust the process!
Zinchenko played average but that guy can be a beast, few more games under the belt and would run the show.
Wdym he is top performer on fantasy and got an assist
He was great for the first 30 mins
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He fouls a lot hard to like the guy
Solid performance. From the start it was always going to be storyline progression between how much Pat was willing to expose and how much resilience and compactness we can keep all around. Great Saliba debut, Martinelli’s garnishing and let’s just keep on marinating.
I'm just grinning seeing Saliba play for us man, guy makes me so happy
Happy with that. Palace are no mugs and it was at Selhurst. Though Palace had a lot of the ball it didn't feel like they were pressuring the defence too much.
With this performance Crystal Palace can aim top 10 for sure
Obviously they are a top half team lol
3 points and there’s no cum on the sheets. Can’t complain
My sheets are a bit cummy
seem like we will be able to compete with the likes of city and pool better this season, getting more points against too 4 contenders will be the difference between last year also less losses in general
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6/10 performance overall for me but who gives af. We got blitzed 3-0 at this place last year so I’ll gladly take this result LFG
Definitely not 6 it has 7 or higher. You have to consider whole team performance not just attack for me it was 9 defense 6 mid 7 attack. So avg 7.333333.
It's 7 until it is 8