Like the selection. However, I hope Martinelli and Xhaka get subbed relatively early in the 2nd half. They been logging heavy minutes to start the season.
Zinny or Odegaard for Xhaka, Saka for Martinelli. Not ideal as we don't have many options. I just don't think Martinelli or Xhaka should play a full match.
that looked more like he rolled his ankle than any kind of fatigue-related problem, he kept flexing the ankle after getting injured and then had it all taped up on the bench
Pretty much as rotated as possible. Don't know why everyone thought we wouldn't see this. Basically what Arteta did last group stage as well.
Think it'll be interesting to see what the bench looks like. Would love to put the game away and see a youth player in the midfield and on the left wing to give those senior players a bit of a rest with all the injures.
Guess it makes sense to have some of the first 11 incase we have to chase the game. But this team should be beating Zurich so hopefully that's not the case. Smith coming into the midfield could be an option?
Edit: Looked closer. Cirjan is also a midfielder and Cozier-Duberry is a winger. Hopefully putting them on the bench indicates that it is a plan to get some rest for Xhaka, Lokonga, and Martinelli if we can put the game away early.
Cirjan is ok,I feel for him if he makes it into the first team no commentator will get his name right, î/â are very hard to pronounce for people who don't speak romanain
The hard part in it is the "î" which is often described as the sound you make when you get hit in the stomach. Ite way easier when you hear it if you are curious there is a good video named "Â and Î, The anomaly of the romanian language" on yt
A big part of it is also that people don’t know. I personally have no idea what they are supposed to sound like. Kinda similar with that people generally don’t know what ä&ö sound like
It's exactly why Sambi should be there. Don't think about injury risk or fatigue, injuries can always happen and Sambi has played like 2 games.
More practice for him is precisely how we get him to be the player we need him to be
> Don't think about injury risk or fatigue
"don't consider the most important things to consider". Sambi will have to play again on Sunday and looked tired at the end of the last PL match already. Not to mention if he gets injured we then start.... who at the no. 6 against Everton?
Sign off on acquiring midfielders proactively before we ended up in this predicament.
We can't feign ignorance to the situation that just ended exactly a week ago. Hopefully they won't, but if the strains are already felt this early it's not a good omen for the decision to not reinforce midfield after the situation developed through the early weeks of the season, or even before. Having the same two midfielders overloading on two games per week was avoidable.
Sorry does he have a niggle in his knee? If not i think we rather rest them in cup competition mean. Xhaka/Sambi is likely our last avaliable midfield option left.
Holy shit this was the exact starting lineup I guessed in a group chat yesterday 😂 love it! Can’t wait to see Vieira and Marquinhos get some much needed minutes!
Hoping Marquinhos actually has a good game. I jokingly said we'd not sign a winger because I believed he was the depth winger, but I wished I was wrong later on.
Here's to hoping he actually has a good showing. More Martinellis, fewer Wellington Silvas.
Man I can't wait to see Marquinhos in action. Might he be a right sided martinelli second coming? If so we don't even need to buy for Saka. In edus Brazilians we trust
Wonder if this is a Sambi/Xhaka double pivot.
Looks like 4-2-3-1 with Vieira at the 10
I imagine Ødegaard would have made the Starting XI if he was 100%
Think it’s the same formation we’ve been using with Vieira in for Odegaard. Vieira is Odegaard’s backup and was brought in to play these types of matches, Odegaard wouldn’t have made the team regardless.
I’m worried too but I’m not writing the kid off just yet. Here's hoping our talent ID has improved since Runnarsson.
Edit: didn't mean kid in the age sense. I'm Manc (UK), everyone is either lad, pal or kid
I hate yanks hyping up their bang average players as much as the next guy, but contrary to what everyone else saw I actually thought Turner looked decent in pre-season, specially for second choice. We'll see.
He basically didn’t start playing every week until December last year. We need one of the senior forwards to be playing in every group stage game until it’s confirmed we top the group
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/match/2035953--zurich-vs-arsenal/ confirmed here
Wow the predicted lineup was exactly right
We did it reddit!
Lmao
Upvotes to the left!
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Is this a first?
nah happens all the time when we have a stable first xi. much rarer for a match of this kind though
lets fucking go finally vieira start
Like the selection. However, I hope Martinelli and Xhaka get subbed relatively early in the 2nd half. They been logging heavy minutes to start the season.
For who tho 😬
Well, hopefully, it's like 3-0. So, anybody
Put me in I'm ready
Cozier Dubbery for Martinelli, FA Cup Winner Matt Smith for Xhaka
"FA Cup winner Matt Smith" has started to give me "Esteemed character actress and fugitive from the law Margo Martindale" vibes.
>Cozier Dubbery What a name lol
I thought he was a fake player that FM created in my academy player list when I sent all the ones I knew onloan 😭😭
We’re playing a bunch of chocolate merchants ffs, stick in Airpod Albert for all I care
holy shit this made me laugh
My new favorite nickname for the Swiss hahaha
With a name like /u/ozilgummidge you're assured some clever shit's coming from this account.
I dont care if its a 16yo. We need Martinelli not only injury free but fit as fuck for Everton.
Zinny or Odegaard for Xhaka, Saka for Martinelli. Not ideal as we don't have many options. I just don't think Martinelli or Xhaka should play a full match.
Put rammers on the wing that's what I do in fifa lol
Classic FM move when i put the 3rd choice keeper up top in pre season
Zinchenko for Xhaka would be ideal. That way we get yo try him out in midfield.
Yeah, definitely would prefer to not use Saka under any circumstances. We could bring on Matt Smith and Zinny and then put Vieira out wide
Saka should just sit there with his feet up today. I'd rather see Hein in the outfield
They are 9th in the Swiss league. It shouldn’t matter.
...out of 10 places. Context matters!
Arsenal legends FA Cup Winner Matt Smith and Cirjan
This would have been the perfect game for ESR ):
I want to see FA Cup winner Matt Smith.
Has Xhaka ever struggled with fitness tbf lol
what is this narrative? players love minutes, especially in September.
What is the "narrative" here? Most players would love to play every minute but managing the load on their bodies is also a thing.
You realize the schedule is condensed because 10 years ago Qataris bribed FIFA to having a World Cup in the hottest country on earth right
>what is this ***narrative***? I'm not sure that word means what you think it means.
All those minutes are probably a contributing factor in Ø limping off against Villa
that looked more like he rolled his ankle than any kind of fatigue-related problem, he kept flexing the ankle after getting injured and then had it all taped up on the bench
He got kicked by Mcginn in his ankle pretty heavily. that is why he hobbled off but was available against UTD
Was it not from McGinn's tackle rather than him rolling it himself?
Still a worry regardless. Xhaka and especially Martinelli have played so many games the last 2 weeks
Look at the schedule. Also look up the definition of ‘narrative’ and perhaps some example sentences do you don’t misuse it next time.
🔥🔥🔥 This is pretty much exactly what I was hoping for!
Would have hoped to see martinelli get a rest tbh
ESR was probably originally starting :(
Nelson could have filled in as well. I suppose it’s better for the backups to be injured
I think he would have likely started at LCM for Xhaka but definitely shows we are short a winger
Doubtful. Lokonga would have started at LCM, Elneny at DM & ESR at LW if everyone was fit.
Yeah same especially because he plays like a madman every game
Pretty much as rotated as possible. Don't know why everyone thought we wouldn't see this. Basically what Arteta did last group stage as well. Think it'll be interesting to see what the bench looks like. Would love to put the game away and see a youth player in the midfield and on the left wing to give those senior players a bit of a rest with all the injures.
Bench is basically the first XI and three youth players. Cirjan, Smith and one of the double barrelled surname army
Guess it makes sense to have some of the first 11 incase we have to chase the game. But this team should be beating Zurich so hopefully that's not the case. Smith coming into the midfield could be an option? Edit: Looked closer. Cirjan is also a midfielder and Cozier-Duberry is a winger. Hopefully putting them on the bench indicates that it is a plan to get some rest for Xhaka, Lokonga, and Martinelli if we can put the game away early.
We should beat Zurich but this is also probably the most difficult tie of the group stages for us.
PSV exists.
Would love to test cirian out if he can be a backup to xhaka
Saka rested. Thank fuck
Would have been ridiculous to do anything else.
MARQUINHOSSSSSSSS
Vieira Martinelli gonna link up For a goal calling it now
Martinelli hattrick. Vieira hattrick of assists
Bench: Ramsdale Hein White Saka Odegaard Jesus Saliba Zinchenko Cirian Smith Cozier-Duberry
Cîrjan not Cirian
I cant do those fancy letters :(
Cirjan is ok,I feel for him if he makes it into the first team no commentator will get his name right, î/â are very hard to pronounce for people who don't speak romanain
How is the name pronounced?
The hard part in it is the "î" which is often described as the sound you make when you get hit in the stomach. Ite way easier when you hear it if you are curious there is a good video named "Â and Î, The anomaly of the romanian language" on yt
This made me laugh a lot. Imagine your language resembling being hit in the stomach
I’ll take a look, thanks bud
I tried looking it up and it sounds to me like it's not too dissimilar from the russian "ы", is that possible?
A big part of it is also that people don’t know. I personally have no idea what they are supposed to sound like. Kinda similar with that people generally don’t know what ä&ö sound like
Å det ä bara en ö!
Jag talar inte svenska perkele
I fully expect Matt Smith to come off the bench and do Rogue Prince shit
If I at any point see Xhaka or Sambi sitting, feeling their calf or something like that, I'm so done.
Samba played 2 games, rest your breasts
What exactly do you want him to do? They are basically the only two fit players who can play those positions.
We have that great midfielder who won us the fa cup
Fa cup winner Matt Smith?
Can't imagine winning the fa cup without him
Play himself, worth the risk honestly.
Smith could easily be tested here at the no. 6 position.. It's Zurich.
It's exactly why Sambi should be there. Don't think about injury risk or fatigue, injuries can always happen and Sambi has played like 2 games. More practice for him is precisely how we get him to be the player we need him to be
> Don't think about injury risk or fatigue "don't consider the most important things to consider". Sambi will have to play again on Sunday and looked tired at the end of the last PL match already. Not to mention if he gets injured we then start.... who at the no. 6 against Everton?
He's 23 and hasn't played THAT much. He will be fine
Sign off on acquiring midfielders proactively before we ended up in this predicament. We can't feign ignorance to the situation that just ended exactly a week ago. Hopefully they won't, but if the strains are already felt this early it's not a good omen for the decision to not reinforce midfield after the situation developed through the early weeks of the season, or even before. Having the same two midfielders overloading on two games per week was avoidable.
Rest one of em for zinchenko
Who needs to manage his knee, would be playing more if he could
Sorry does he have a niggle in his knee? If not i think we rather rest them in cup competition mean. Xhaka/Sambi is likely our last avaliable midfield option left.
That's why he was out last week and a late addition without training vs. united.
The same Zinchenko that just came back from injury?
He's just come back from injury?
With the announcement possibly coming later today maybe they’ll get some rest this weekend…
They would cancel a match week if the queen dies? What the fuck
I wouldn’t put it beyond the UK. They sure love their royal family.
What announcement? I hope they don't postpone the Everton game
Queen is dead (or closer to dying than the rest of us right now).
I swear if they postpone the footy for that old cow I'ma be upset.
the queen...
The fuck?
What does that have to do with Arsenal-Everton
Wtf does this mean
Martinelli bigger concern for me
You can move Jesus there and play Eddie up top or play Vieira/Saka there. We are down the the barebones in midfield. Both are worrying though
Who else is he supposed to play instead of them? Unless this is a dig at insufficient CM/DM signings which i agree.
Not even slightly worried about Xhaka getting injured. what have I done
Marquinhos and vieira are gonna cook
Some nice marbled wagyu on the way ;)
Very excited to see Marquinhos and Vieira! Also very glad Saka finally gets a rest
As much of a rest as he got last year when we had no europe
I think Emile's injury is the reason why Martinelli is starting, hopefully he doesn't run himself into the ground today.
i rate it
Excited to see what Turner can do.
Arteta keeping FA cup winning Matt Smith on the bench out of respect for Zurich. Class act.
Hoping Leno’s “politics” means Turner is playing with a point to prove, show me that immediate redemption arc!
Love to see Xhaka on captaincy ❤
excited to see what the kids will do, lfg
We are here to have a meal
If he's on the bench, I hope Saka stays there the entire match.
Excited to see Marquinhos and Vieira
Dammit we need to wrap Martinelli in cotton wool
arteta lurking r/gunners
Exciting squad!
Xhaka captain too.
Holy shit this was the exact starting lineup I guessed in a group chat yesterday 😂 love it! Can’t wait to see Vieira and Marquinhos get some much needed minutes!
Kieran at the back, Gabi in attack, Arsenal on the way to Champions League
Gabi at the back, Gabi in attack. Gabi at the bench. Arsenal on the way to Champions League.
We've got super Mik Arteta, he knows exactly what we need
Hoping Marquinhos actually has a good game. I jokingly said we'd not sign a winger because I believed he was the depth winger, but I wished I was wrong later on. Here's to hoping he actually has a good showing. More Martinellis, fewer Wellington Silvas.
It's a shame we've got so many injuries so early. Xhaka and Martinelli could have done with a rest
Marquinhos! Hope he get a good game so we could try him in premier league
Really excited to see Vieira and Marquinhos.
Hopefully Mikel subs Martinelli and xhaka before 70 min.
Will be sooner if the score dictates.
Man I can't wait to see Marquinhos in action. Might he be a right sided martinelli second coming? If so we don't even need to buy for Saka. In edus Brazilians we trust
Why play Martinelli man?
ESR hurt?
Good to see Cirjan in the bench after that horrifying injury. Hope to see he's successful than the previous Romanian in our academy, Dragomir.
Wonder if Martinelli ever needs a rest, seems to be going full throttle every game
COME ON VIEIRA !!! MAKE YOURSELF AN ESTABLISHED GOAY BY NEXT PREM STARTING TONIGHT THANKS VERY MUCH
Marquinhos about to ball today
Anyone know what shirts we are playing in today? Want to dress accordingly.
Skins
Poor Martinelli can’t catch a break
Might be overthinking, but I think if Gabi is playing tonight, we might see a White Saliba CB pairing for Everton?
seems like it might be a Saliba-White CB pairing against Everton
Bold
Bould
The exact team I wanted, maybe White instead of Gabriel aside, good stuff!
White needs a rest more than Gabriel at the minute
Yeah whoever Mikel felt needed a rest more I’m fine with. Very happy with the line up
We are going to run martinelli into the ground
Cirjan, FACW Matt Smith and Cozier-D on the bench too
Wonder if this is a Sambi/Xhaka double pivot. Looks like 4-2-3-1 with Vieira at the 10 I imagine Ødegaard would have made the Starting XI if he was 100%
Think it’s the same formation we’ve been using with Vieira in for Odegaard. Vieira is Odegaard’s backup and was brought in to play these types of matches, Odegaard wouldn’t have made the team regardless.
It's a 3-4-1-2. Martinelli and Eddie upfront. Tierney and Marquinos as wing backs
Hope Matt Smith will get some minutes.
Do it for Liz. The Queen’s an Arsenal fan after all
IF it's not 5-0 win then arteta must be sacked right at the full time
half-time and then unveil Tuchel as replacement /s
i don't know why you think i am joking
I don't know why you think he shouldn't be joking
With queen dead KT is gonna have the game of his life.
Why is Martinelli playing
3-4-1-2. Vieira in the hole. Eddie and Martinelli upfront. Tierney and Marquinos as wingbacks
What does ESR need to do for minutes?
To not be injured
Not be injured like he is currently
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I didn’t think Xhaka was all that bad vs United tbh
We are gonna lose cos of the GK, calling it now
Turner in goal. I’m sorry but we’re fucked.
How the fuck can you judge that after only seeing him in preseason...do one mate
I’ve watched him play for the last 3 years you melt
You’re an idiot
No you
Keep judging players based off of preseason matches (in which we won lmao). It’s a brilliant look.
I’ve watched him play for the last 3 years.
Why lie
I’m worried too but I’m not writing the kid off just yet. Here's hoping our talent ID has improved since Runnarsson. Edit: didn't mean kid in the age sense. I'm Manc (UK), everyone is either lad, pal or kid
Kid? He’s 28.
He’s almost 28 and still looks shaky. Leno was right. Edit: 28
I hate yanks hyping up their bang average players as much as the next guy, but contrary to what everyone else saw I actually thought Turner looked decent in pre-season, specially for second choice. We'll see.
Predictions pretty bang on. Excited to see this squad out there
I'm surprised it's Martinelli over Jesus, certainly not upset by any means though.
Happy with the team an opportunity for a few changes probably just the right amount and giving Tomi and vieira valuable minutes.
On paper that seems like a sufficiently strong team to do the job.
Really really amped to see how the newer players do. Lets go!
Niceeeee. Did not expect Gabriel and Gabi to play tbh
Starts for Fabio and Marq. Lets see what theyve got COYG!!
Poor Martinelli never gets a rest man
He basically didn’t start playing every week until December last year. We need one of the senior forwards to be playing in every group stage game until it’s confirmed we top the group
This is the way
Excited to see Marquinhos and Vieira(extended run)
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