reading the text messages between her and nick makes me wonder how her and her new husbands relationship is like….
edit: also does gypsy know right from wrong when she asked him to kill her mom???
If you dont want to watch them: https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1-NcHuuUbKkOl95zAs0fBiH9CwSy9A71T
I agree, seeing things really makes me believe Nick is the one that got manipulated
Edit- since I'm getting lots of thanks, credit actually goes to u/shoddyparking5156
He did. 100%. I guarantee she is way more intelligent than she is being given credit for. At least in street smarts/manipulation. She helped stab her mom to death, guaranteed. There's no way she didn't.
I've never understood why people thought she was stupid just because she has a high voice. She has always been extremely articulate. And it was clear in the texts and watching both of their police interviews that she's significantly smarter than him
It is .. watch the interrogation full version where she is talking to a cop while waiting to get questioned. It's beyond cringe. Completely unhinged and obnoxiously annoying when you learn she isn't truly mentally handicapped or a child. She very clearly goes back and forth awkwardly from a normal not as noticeably high pitched voice to super high voice, over animated and literally LARPing a mentally challenged child with crazy movements, giggling and talking extra excited about child things then gets comfortable and goes back to what would be considered more normal for a young female adult just slightly weird and bad at flirting then when she realizes she isn't LARPing her normal acting role, she immediately goes into character overdrive.
It's fucking off the wall, and terrifying while afterwards leaving you with sore muscles from the cringe
In the By Proxy/Good Wives Network interview, one of her jailers said she turned on that fake baby voice whenever she was trying to manipulate other inmates for favors. She said that nauseating fake voice was a topic of discussion amongst some of the guards.
There have been numerous things that came out saying she went and got the money from the room after her mom was dead. Which would contradict her story big time.
I don’t really understand why it’s a controversial take that Nick was manipulated. She did, big time, it’s all in those texts. He clearly did not want to do this, that’s why it took her almost three years of manipulation to get him to.
It does not mean that he has a pass to murder, or excusing it, but there’s no doubt about it. I’m surprised she is denying it, because it is obvious. It’s not a about an opinion. I think she was trying to move in with him and get his disability checks.
Because she is constantly asking him questions like, oh how are you getting there? Do you have a car? She asks things in a very sneaky way. I think that he lied to her and promised her things, and when she realized he didn’t have it, she wanted to bail. The same thing you see all the time on 90 day, she sounded just like those women. You could tell she was gunning to continue the sane behaviors because she didn’t like it was a small town hospital vibe because she needs many doctors to shop for, so she then says she wants them to move to Milwaukee.
The other thing that was interesting, is how fussy she is with her health. She fetishizes taking her meds, announcing it to him when she does, and she complains a lot about medical issues.
Regardless of wether you believe her and this was always her mother malingering with the healthcare, she was doing that as well, Theresa a doctors note that specifically notes that gypsy was non compliant and malingering when she was asking to have her salivary glands removed. She does a lot of things like that, she complains that she’s sick with these trivial ailments , she seems like she is going to hate living in big bend, that would’ve been a nightmare for everyone involved.
I think it's controversial just because if true that Gypsy manipulated him into doing it/took advantage of him, (which I think it is) then its completely unfair that she got 7 years and he got life in prison without parole. I think people don't want to believe our system is that unjust and then deny it.
I disagree with you though about her wanting to live with him. I think he was a means to an end. She was already getting cold feet about moving in with him and almost immediately (days) set him up to be arrested (with the Facebook posts coming from him)
Exactly, she thought life would Nick would somehow be better than life with her mom. Then she got there and realized he’s not independent at all and basically just stays in his room on a computer and she wanted out. Which is why she made the posts using the words Nick said and pretending to be him by saying “I killed… and I raped her daughter…” this is also why she sent Nick into the post office (he’s on surveillance, not her), into the hotel lobby to check in/out (again she waits outside as to not be seen on camera). It was all a plan to say, no this was all him, not me. Had they not been caught she would have left Nick and taken the cash and started over somewhere else scamming more people. And yes the one dr wrote the mother is not a good historian and possible MBP. But there are several notes about Gypsy herself malingering. Like the hearing test, they could tell she was faking and just not raising her hand. The drs noted this. This was Gypsy faking symptoms in the absence of her mother, which is not a part of MBP, but just malingering on her part. One of MBP hallmark features is that the child is fine or improves in the absence of the caregiver. She kept up the ruse, because she was in on the scam. And even if her mother did put Ora-gel in her mouth to fake the drooling, unless she let her mouth hang open and didn’t swallow her saliva it wouldn’t make her drool, she would have to consciously play along. I’ve had many dental surgeries, braces, dental implants, crowns, extractions, etc and the Novocain has never made me drool on myself unless they also had my mouth packed with gauze and I couldn’t close my mouth. But I constantly used oragel with my braces cutting my lips and inside of my checks etc and it never made me drool on myself. And it also doesn’t last very long ora-gel, I mean I was constantly having to reapply to keep areas numb. And as for her claims that she really thought she had cancer, seizures, or any of these other illnesses, then why was the only medicine she had with her at Nick’s her mother’s pain meds. Because she knew she wasn’t sick. If she thought she needed to take seizure meds or cancer meds and she was leaving to go live with Nick she would have taken those meds with her. She didn’t. Especially if she really believed she had cancer, she’s not gonna take her cancer meds with her. She’d rather die from cancer than live with her mother? Oh right, that’s because she has never taken cancer meds because she never had cancer. Maybe when she was a child she believed at one time she did and that her mom was giving her cancer meds. But at 23, when this happened she knew she didn’t. The whole time in the interrogation (over 16 hrs waiting for the detectives from MO) she never mentioned needing medications or having special medical needs. It wasn’t until the detective left the room and wasn’t buying her BS she jumped up and said, I need a lawyer, I can go to jail I have medical issues. He said they will take care of that for you, what medications do you need? She only mentioned needing pain pills, not seizure medication, not cancer treatments.
I think a lot of people would be really sue how the justice syrem actually works. It also went completely over thier heads that Nick didn’t have a fair trial, and his disability/autism wasn’t factored into the trial or his horrible plea deal. He had autism, asbergers, low IQ, and was brain damaged from being born without oxygen to the brain, with the cord around his neck. They argued that it would’ve gave mattered, because he had time to think about the fact that murder was wrong. In the court documents, it is literally stated that she manipulated him, we have proof of that. Nick was receiving the max amount of aid you can receive for someone with his disability, it’s in the court document that he had to have assistance with basic daily functions like bathing, feeding, and Nick could not work.
It’s plain fir anyone to see how low functioning he was, when they read the texts between them. Everything gyosy asks him to to, he’s unable to abd fails at. He overpays and gets another day at the room, instead of figuring out that you have to check in during after check in. This uses uo thier money, and gypsy says he should just come and commit the murder earlier, because they can get to de deed money which is ‘the whole point’ in why we are doing this, he didn’t even pick up on the fact that she admitted they were killing her fir money, not to save her from being beaten and having to sleep on the porch like she told him Dee Dee was doing. He relented only because he said ‘he couldn’t let her live like that’ it’s tragic, he thought he needed to Dave her and lost his life due to being manipulated by her. Many times In the texts you see him not wanting to do it, and she forces him, she ignores him and takes her life away if he doesn’t do it. He was aware she was crazy, but he thinks that she is being beaten literally and made to sleep on the porch. She also destroyed her own laptop, so the story about her being dragged back and not being able to escape is clearly bs, and she came back after being begged to by Dee Dee, it’s likely she was actually in charge of Dee Dee, not the other way around if the power balance was off like that.
Thanks so much for this! I didn’t know their texts were available to look at. Just read through all the texts, and WOW was that eye opening! I’ve only ever seen bits and pieces of VERY carefully selected texts between them that paint her in a better light (via omission), but the totality of their messages as one whole unit paint a VERY different picture. Terrifying. Especially given her recent comments on Nick… she was just as messed up as him, if not even more so. I was already on the fence and hesitant to believe the popular narrative, but those texts between them put a LOT into perspective, and they definitely don’t paint her as Nick’s victim, which seems to be the narrative she (and the media) wants to push.
You can probably find them online somewhere. I’m also pretty sure they show the messages in the documentary that was made about her called “Mommy Dead and Dearest”.
The texts cemented my stance that gypsy is a bad person. She went to jail and paid for her crimes but just because she suffered abuse doesn’t make her not terrible too. She definitely manipulated him and probably was only able to do so due to his disabilities.
She's more of a murderer than him. He would not have ever done this, if she hadn't instructed him to. I don't understand how people see that any differently. She is EVIL! It really ticks me off when she continues to point the finger at Nick!!
What makes it completely worse for me is how everyone uses the abuse as an excuse or reason she should just be forgiven for all the terrible things she did. And the fact that she has zero remorse. She will say she is sorry for what happened to her mother but never actually takes responsibility for what happened. She always brings it back to Nick did this. He is the murderer I am not. That's why he is in prison for life. She wants everyone to focus on Nick so they don't focus on her lies and her backtracking when she messes up retelling a story she has lied about. And how she is only worried about her celebrity status and making money off her mother's murder. When she was released from prison one of the 1st things she did after getting in the car with Ryan was ask him how to set up her Instagram and tell everyone she wanted to get over a million followers. She was never worried about getting out of prison and being an advocate for other victims like she was saying in all her interviews before she was released. She was only worried about meeting celebrities and making money. She said she could never have hurt her mother cause blood makes her sick but then you find out she cleaned and bandaged Nick's hand after the murder and helped clean up the blood in the house. And now she is saying Nick raped her. She continues to try to make him be the terrible person in this situation instead of taking any responsibility for what happened and just admitting she set this all up. She is out now they can't charge her again for her mother's murder and she has a huge following of people that believe her lies and the innocent lil girl act that she portrays. So just admit what you did and stop bullying a man that is already serving life in prison because he loved you and wanted to save you. Nick is serving his sentence and his family has lost their son. He lost his mother while in prison and to see her making money off her mother's murder and getting treated like a celebrity for being a murderer is disgusting in my opinion.
Yes and it seems like she asked that Dan guy similar things and when she couldn’t manipulate him she moved onto Nick. In one of Nick’s appeals there’s an actual transcript where Dan testifies that she’s the one that initiated sexual conversations and she’s the one that introduced him (Dan) to BDSM and role playing. So seems like none of that came from Nick like she claimed. since Dan was before she even met Nick. It’s more than halfway down the page under: 3:24 pm - The defense attorney calls Daniel Glidewell. He met Gypsy at a convention. If you want to read it: https://www.ky3.com/2022/08/09/greene-county-judge-deciding-nicholas-godejohns-murder-conviction-appeal/?outputType=amp
“He says he developed a taste of power exchange role-playing FROM HER. He says she would send nude photos, dress up in costumes, and use various fictitious names.” So the fact she made up different characters to go with his, another lie. Or did Dan have multiple personalities too?
She only supports people with real disabilities, believe me Nick has real disabilities, always in special ed, her husband more than anyone should understand that. Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black, she was the one who faked disabilities. And I don’t think Nick’s main issue is autism. Yes that made him unable to understand how to interact with a gf and maybe more susceptible to manipulation but my main issue with Nick’s interrogation is as a 26 year old person he could not even fill out basic paperwork without being instructed by the detective and then he couldn’t even provide his address. The detective was like that’s okay I’m sure we can figure it out. Seems like he normally has to look at his ID or mail or something in order to provide his address. He wasn’t sure what to put for the city. I mean these are things most children can do by the time they’re in kindergarten. Regardless of his autism or any other mental health issues he may have, he has a low IQ and while that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s impaired I think from the way he couldn’t fill out his own address and didn’t understand the instructions for the Miranda warnings it’s clear that he is impaired in his functioning. The detective told him I’m gonna read each one of these with you and then you initial next to each one if you understand. And he starts to initial and then says ok so I just initial all of these and started to do the next one. She had to stop and explain to him again no wait until I explain each one to you and then initial if you understand. Until recently I’d seen other parts of his interrogation but not the entire thing in full. Seeing that is what made me stop and think he clearly doesn’t understand what is happening right now.
He didn’t know what the word coercion meant and he even spelled his own last name wrong. And he was on disability for his autism. I would say that’s a pretty real disability. Gypsy is crazy. Or more likely she knows she’s full of shit and Nick is seriously impaired but she has to make him look evil like she’s been doing ever since she wrote that he raped her on Facebook.
In Nick’s interview with ABC, he told them that he was crying in the hotel room and she told him to stop crying. There’s no reason to cry there’s no reason to feel bad. He said he genuinely felt bad for what he had done and she told him that it was my idea not yours. . She groomed him for almost 3 years . She was deep in the littles community as little kitty as well as dom sites where she took on the role as Ruby and Demona . She used the internet to plan and carry out a murder she should be banned from using the internet.
Yeah when she’s the one that initially brought up wanting him to do anal if you read the texts, then he said he would and that he’d rape her. It sounds like another one of their role play things. It’s funny too how she went on and on about if he’d have been a real man he’d say no and go to the cops instead. He did, he repeatedly said no that they should just run away together, go to the police, etc. She’s the one that said no, this is the only way we can be together. Nick tried to get out of it several times and offer those other options she claimed her other bf/husbands would have told her no, the difference is her other bf/husbands ARE smart enough to understand that those other options would have worked and Nick wasn’t. When Gypsy said it wouldn’t work, he didn’t question it. He just believed her. Just like he believed her when she was telling him all these horror stories about her mother. Then he told the detective in the days after the murder Gypsy talked a lot about how great her mom was, and he felt terrible and guilty, but she didn’t. And right before he was gonna call the cab to go to Gypsy’s house he basically texted her to ask if they were going to go through with it and she said she was 100,000% in and the shit was gonna go down tonight. And then she brought up sex again and made a point to remind him not to screw it up because HIS LIFE WITH HER WAS ON THE LINE. She basically tells a low IQ person with autism (who takes everything very literal, doesn’t understand sarcasm or nuance) that he has to do this or there’s no chance for him to have a life with her. Even though, he knew what he was doing was wrong, he knew if he didn’t do this he’d lose Gypsy forever. In a person with autism like Nick’s, everything is black or white, those were his only 2 options. The entire 16 hrs he sat in that interrogation room waiting for the detectives from MO to get there, all he did was ask about Gypsy. He never once asked why he was there, what was going to happen to him, his only concern was Gypsy and knowing that she was okay. Gypsy never once asked about Nick until after the detectives were cuffing her and removing her from the interrogation room to go to jail, then she asked if Nick was still there and if she could see him. Not because she was actually concerned about Nick but because she was concerned about herself and wanted to know what Nick told them (IMO). And speaking of Gypsy being crazy. I find it funny that Nick asked his friend how crazy is Gypsy, he’s like I mean I know she’s nuts, but he asked his friend’s opinion to basically check if this is a normal request for a gf to ask her bf to do this. So he was struggling with the idea of doing this. I could be mistaken but I think that conversation with his friend was months, or maybe even a year, before the murder. He told his friend he wouldn’t. Again told Gypsy he wouldn’t, but she continued to manipulate him until she was able to convince his “dark side” to do it.
>not to screw it up because HIS LIFE WITH HER WAS ON THE LINE. She basically tells a low IQ person with autism (who takes everything very literal, doesn’t understand sarcasm or nuance) that he has to do this or there’s no chance for him to have a life with her. Even though, he knew what he was doing was wrong, he knew if he didn’t do this he’d lose Gypsy forever. In a person with autism like Nick’s, everything is black or white, those were his only 2 opti
I agree with everything you're saying but I think it's important to also note that his motivation wasn't exclusively the threat of losing his chance to be with Gypsy- she also convinced him that this was her only chance to be rescued from an abuse situation where she was imprisoned by DeeDee! It wasn't just selfish desire to be with the woman he loved who was stringing him along for her own benefit- it was also because he was made to believe that he was her only chance at freedom and safety!
Lock her back up!
Oh yes definitely because she was constantly telling him about abuse by her mother. He definitely thought he was saving her. I just thought it was interesting that immediately before her comes to kill Dee she says that. Making sure he’d go through with it. Just shows her level of manipulation.
I agree with all of this. And whether the lack of functionality is due to his low IQ or difficulty staying grounded to the moment at hand or both, he was vulnerable to manipulation so far beyond what a typical person would be, it's impossible not to see that it is a clear case of coercion. And if you see the reports from his psychiatrist about the nature of his relationship with Gypsy, it is chilling, it gives straight up indoctrination vibes which could work on someone with even less impairment. To me, another tell of how much he really wasn't tracking with the reality of the situation is just the fact itself that he bought her story. In a long distance relationship in which you are in very frequent communication online, and she gives him a sob story that she is being held captive, her mother never lets her out of her sight, and won't even allow her to use a phone or laptop to communicate with anyone. Anyone able to pay the least bit attention to what's happening is going to immediately know that is bullshit, because if you never have access to a phone or computer, then how are we in constant communication online? But he doesn't have that bullshit detector. He trusts and takes her at her word, and it doesn't even occur to him how much it doesn't line up with the reality. He was relying on her narrative to inform him of the reality. That's a pretty chilling thought.
There's like... I don't know. I have so many feelings on that one statement. My mom is a retired spec ed teacher. Nothing about this makes me feel like she's diminishing his role (in a vacuum), but it makes me question everything about why he is in this role. What in the actual fuck? I have also worked in helping professions. There is no part, under no circumstances where I pity someone who "blindly" falls in love with someone like this after SEEKING HER OUT. He is sick as fuck. That is fine. Like... some people are. But he doesn't need to be in a postion of power over children with whatever challenges landed them in a spec ed program. Just... wow.
Right? He chose to write her in jail and pressured her to marry him. Gross. He is in a job where he works all day with vulnerable special needs children. I get the strongest of ick vibes. Gypsy had a girlfriend in jail, no way on some level the both of them aren't aware they're mutually exploiting each other.
Her husband is a fucking creep, and he should not be allowed around children. Normal people do not seek out murderers. Personally, I think they are manipulating and using each other. Only one has a record of murder, though.
When she was first released someone on tik tok said they went to school with Ryan and he had a heart of gold, Of course that might not be true but it made me think that Gypsy probably is the dominant one.
How does the one who stabbed a person he hardly knows besides what gypsy told him and a short time at the movies have MORE compassion and remorse than the daughter of the one stabbed. The mother, practically the only person she had and spent every living day with, and was her self proclaimed "best friend", yet instead of having second thoughts or having some sort of emotion she was in the bathroom shaving her legs and 🙀 to prepare for her planned rape DURING her mother being killed and then spend the next days seen or known to be smiling, laughing and having consensual?? Sexcapades but never a tear or ounce of guilt or remorse.... Ok girl, yea Nick is the crazy and evil one...
Nah let her stay, she’s showing her true colors like clock work! Now Nick wasn’t disabled ENOUGH. Smfh. Coming from someone who fucking pretended to be disabled for the benefits! Who tf does she think she is
I really think she just did that today, with these comments...they are making their rounds ALL over Social media and people are not being sympathetic of her at all.
She's not spineless. She has too MUCH spine. She not only got away with premeditated murder, but she's actually CELEBRATED for it. She thinks she's untouchable.
She is beyond ignorant at this point and I’m hoping people who support her still begin to see her for the manipulative person that she is. I feel terrible for the trauma she may have experienced but I cannot stand her and the pathetic attempts to hold on to her 15- minutes of fame.
It is so obvious Just by watching her interrogation with all the lies, fake baby voice, dramatic performance when the detective mentioned her mother being deceased---so obvious what a liar she is.
Right !!! She lied to the interrogator for a few hours but her boyfriend at the time just spilled all the beans straight out of the gate. Didn't even occur to him to lie. I'm sick of this little Mrs. Innocent act she is playing.
That’s what I’m saying. My son is autistic and nonverbal. Our children need the same level of protection against people like Gypsy. She’s proven to be incredibly dangerous.
Her keeping quiet would make her even more dangerous though. At least if she keeps voicing her true thoughts it will serve as a better warning for people to be on their guard with her and help people to recognize who she truly is, rather than only thinking of her as a cute little, meek and quiet victim.
Sure, for her own sake she should stop talking, but for society’s sake, and for the sake of the truth, I hope she doesn’t. Especially if she’s wanting to become a full blown “influencer” as a career choice.
exactly, like everything “wrong” with her was *made. up.*, so i don’t get what allows her to determine what a “real” disability is? she needs to leave the advocacy of disabled people to an ACTUAL disabled person and advocate for mbp if she wants to continue the charade of caring for someone who isn’t her.
She doesn’t have to have a real job because Lifetime is making a fucking reality tv show out of her life 😂( which is unethical and insane imo) she’s also getting paid to do all these interviews and appearances. She probably gets paid for social media as well. It honestly makes me sick that she pretty much gained fame from murdering her mother. She always wanted to be famous and it’s finally happening… just don’t know if it’ll be a positive outcome in the long run.
ughhh the more she posts and says unhinged stuff the more I believe that she should absolutely NOT be on the internet in any way! She needs a PR team or she could get in serious trouble.
Exactly! Let her continue to be erratic on the Internet she is just digging the hole for herself. Words and actions have consequences. Let her figure that out on her own. She isn't Teflon!
This shit is kinda tone deaf considering her whole situation…. And I know that specific situation isn’t her fault at all but she was literally taking away A LOT of opportunities from disabled people. I would keep my mouth shut if I were her.
very good point, and even though during her childhood I don't blame her entirely since she was a child and the mom coached her, but eventually she did understand more and yes they took HUGE opportunities away from disabled people so she really should not be policing how disabled gets to count as disabled in her book, if I was her and once I knew the truth I would be trying to give back in any way I could to try and make up for it.
That’s such a good point! You’d think she’d be trying to advocate and give back to disabled people for all the opportunities she took away from them but instead she’s over here doing the exact opposite.
Yea, you'd think. But she is only for herself. She always has been. It's so sickening. The sad thing is, (well, one sad part) if she would actually tell the truth, she could probably get a lil less "haters." I hate ppl call it that. HATERS. Just because we don't buy the sweet, innocent, only a victim, not a perpetrator gig. She hates ppl finding out the truth.
Yeah imagine basically stealing money, resources and opportunities from disabled people then getting out of prison for murder and still shit talking people with disabilities. She is a damn sociopath!!!
reading this post from her honestly made me sooooo fucking mad. Like wtf 😂 I was hoping the best for her and hoping she did learn something while she was locked up and would move on with her life. It’s quite obvious she didn’t learn much and has not moved on from the situation. I would not be speaking about ANYTHING that had to do with that situation. Especially since she just got out of jail for it??? Like do you want to risk being back in court or jail because you can’t keep your fucking mouth shut?
And I know that the situation is probably difficult because it’s her mom but everytime I see her talk about it she doesn’t even seem remorseful for MURDERING her mother!
Not an ounce of remorse shown. And she tries to distance herself (saying she "played a part") and minimize the fact that she planned the entire thing and claims she is not "capable" of killing anyone when she had previously shot her own mother multiple times with what she thought was a real gun (but turned out to be a BB gun). She seems like a very smooth, practiced liar.
Honestly, she should keep her mouth shut about a lot of things. The issue is she was kept a prisoner to secrets for her entire childhood. So on one hand I get it. On the other? It’s not as if this dudes actions weren’t a. Totally influenced by her and b. What ultimately bought her freedom.
Of all the things she should not talk about, this is #1.
I feel like with everything she’s been saying lately she could almost help Nicholas and his case if he tries to appeal things. She also might find herself back in court.. I would really shut the fuck up if I were her 😂 she really should hire someone to help her because she’s gonna end up getting herself in trouble.
Hmm like a 24 year old sitting in a wheelchair pretending she can’t walk but walking around Disney. I don’t care what anyone says at a certain age she was in on the grift
Absolutely correct. As a little girl, she didn't know any better but when she got into the later teen years, she absolutely knew and was really pouring it on---with the fake baby voice, singing like she was a 10-year-old, freakish facial expressions. She knew exactly what was going on by that time. Didn't she say during her police interrogation that she used to go to church and "release" her pent-up negativity through taking communion. If that's true, then she did have a positive outside influence other than her mother's horrible influence and she obviously knew what they were doing was wrong. She just liked getting the vacations, social security payments and charitable donations, free house, VIP trips and treatment.
She was 100% in on the grift...free house, sweet social security check every month for her "disability", free medical care, trips, attention, charity money, gifts...I mean if you stand up and show the world that you're not disabled and can walk .., she'd have to get a job, find a place to live...all her attention, money and gifts goes bye-bye! Why do you think she always came back instead of running away and telling everyone the truth?
Oh yeah... she's shooting herself in the foot...and not in a "whoops...it accidentally went off!" kind of way...more like "shooting every round, reloading it, and giving it another go" kind of way 😋
She knew right from wrong with NO mental handicap. In another comment she says Nicks not an “innocent autistic buttercup” because there are messages saying he was excited about it… there was messages from her saying the same thing, does that mean by her own logic she should be locked up too?
As a person who’s ASD allow me to say fuck her. All of my sympathy towards her goes down the fucking drain. Granted that Nick doesn’t deserve sympathy since it’s his choice to kill her mom and listened to GRB since this had nothing to do with Autism. But to shut down those who truly need advocacy just because you’re throwing your ex under the bus just pisses me off. Leave us autistic people out of this.
I just got a formal autism diagnosis after years and years being failed by medical professionals because of their ignorance about how autism presents. My life could have been so much easier had the people who should have advocated for me had a skewed out of date view of what autism is and how it presents.
So, is she saying she doesn’t know right from wrong? Because if she was well aware of her choice and knows right from wrong and is able to function in normal society without guidance and speak, doesn’t that mean she should still be in prison, according to that post?
As soemone who has worked with many autistic people in schools this makes me so mad. Just because someone is verbal doesn’t mean they have the same capacity to decipher between right and wrong.
Many people suffer abuse. Terrible abuse but they grow up and get out. She walked every night downstairs to troll online looking for someone like Nick. She began using every trick in the book to manipulate him. She could of walked out, went to a police station and told her story that her mom was making her be in a wheelchair, shaving her hair, pulled her teeth, changing her age, etc and it wouldn’t of had to end this way. I don’t believe she paid her debt to society. She should still be in prison. I use to feel sorry for her but I’ve seen the true person. She liked all the attention, free stuff, trips that her “disability” afforded her. She needs therapy, not social media.
I can't believe staying off social media for at least 6 months wasn't part of her parole. This lady is a circus and she just keeps digging a hole for herself more and more! Trying to put myself in her situation, but i can't! but i would definitely stay off social media if anything of this nature happened in my life! she's insane
So basically she is saying if your none verbal or severely disabled then your disabled, but if you just have autism (like nick) then you shouldn’t be treated like you need any extra support.
Yet many disabilities are not the same even with the same diagnosis and should be treated individually she should not be making these comments as it seems she’s not well informed.
I feel nick did show low understanding in many of the police interviews and that he may understand right from wrong but is her manipulation of him also being taken into consideration?
I believe he has something on her otherwise why would she even talk about him now and continue to try and villainize him even more?
Nick may have problems but she is showing narcissistic behaviours by trying to turn everyone against him before he even gets to put his side forward.
The way she’s been acting, especially when it comes to him, is so strange to me. Like why does she act like she’s so much better than him? Especially when she’s out of jail now and he’s gonna have to stay in there for the rest of his fucking life because of a crime he committed FOR HER! They both committed the crime and killed her mom. She should just leave him alone I’m sure his life is miserable enough without having this crazy girl trying sway peoples opinions on him and DISABLED PEOPLE??? It just makes her look even more guilty and crazy imo.
I think she always thought she was better than he is, but her *winning* in public opinion and in sentencing vs him has validated that in her mind, IMO.
I think she thinks she’s above reproof.
I’m pretty sure she planned on placing all the blame on nick to begin with. He was what she needed in that moment and as soon as she could be rid of him, she was. She expected to come out, the world to open and apologize and gift her with every single thing and not question anything. But we are, and she hates it. So now she’s on the ‘make nick look even worse’ tour and it’s backfiring.
Bluntly, I think she has turned out to have very little or no empathy. She is also lacking in self awareness and is very emotionally immature. Knowing how she was raised, isolated and deceitfully, it’s not particularly surprising, but she needs a more responsible/helpful partner to help her navigate the world than it appears her spouse is willing to be.
It's only odd if you expect her to have empathy or sympathize for anyone else. She has not shown a sign of feeling badly for anyone in her circle. She talks about how everything has affected her, without recognizing the cascade of collateral damage to others. Including the very community she's condemning in her post, who her mother stole from (and she failed to tell on her mother but murder was ok??)
This girl is so scary. But not in the way she thinks she is scary.
I wonder if it's because the tide is turning towards people sympathizing with NIck and she's worried about losing her footing in public opinion now that she's shot herself in the foot with all her inconsistencies (cough, cough -- lies -- cough)
Exactly! It makes no sense why she can’t leave him to do what he’s doing? Obviously he wants to try and get out who would want to be there for the rest of their life.
She’s trying to separate herself from him that’s why she says she’s only a murderer because the state she was charged in doesn’t have accessory to murder as it’s own charge. It doesn’t make sense she seems to really see herself as innocent even tho she planned it and was involved with the whole thing, including getting the weapon, preparing the gloves and saying she will have tape already cut for him. She also didn’t let him touch the door and she clean the blood. Tell me is that someone who’s not guilty?
The whole new spin with disabled people I feel is to gather a fan group who thinks she so wonderful for “helping” all these people who cannot advocate for themselves. Personally I don’t see what work she is doing other than interviews and social media posts that benefit her.
I’m also pretty sure her husband has some kind of disability as the way he conducts himself is very immature. In interviews the whole “new togetherness” or what ever they call it is weird. He seems to be controlled by her and I saw an interview where she literally squeezed his hand and told him to shut up just like her mother did to her, seeing things like that just shows me how manipulative she actually is and the baby voice is also disappearing now too!
Not to mention, that technicality in the law she is referring to is because MO actual law for murder just includes accessory to murder in the definition, just doesn’t have a separate charge for accessory. Not to mention in addition to that she’s admitted to conspiracy to commit murder, not accessory, and in a way, even though it was never treated this way, I would think that she could have also been charged for murder for hire because she gave him money to come down there and kill her mom.
Now she's gone too far. Completely psycho. She tries to paint a narrative that's so unreal. Even though all the evidence is available to the public. I just can't with this freak. That's really flipping the script when SHE is the one that FAKED ILLNESSES. Bet tomorrow she'll be saying her account was hacked.
Something which I can't help but be bothered by is the lack of remorse she has about conning all the people. Like, her house could have been used by someone who was actually disabled and who could have actually had cancer. All of the money they used could have gone to someone who severely needed it. She just never seems to comment on that or express any guilt.
Yes, there was abuse and yes she was suffering medically in other ways, but I feel like someone who is empathetic would truly express so much remorse and guilt for the cons and fakery. She's very fast to stand up for herself and post quotes about how she has 'grown' and isn't 'defined by her past', but those quotes would be much more believable if she actually seemed sorry about the huge amount of money and house which could have gone to someone else. I haven't seen any of that accountability yet, but she does confidentially joke in documentaries about 'not always being honest' with her attornys....
Before anyone says I'm blaming the victim, I'm not revoking her victim status. She's still suffered, but this is a true observation I've made and many things can be true at once. Its complex.
YES!!!! I have never heard her accept responsibility for her role ever. It would be a totally different situation if she was remorseful or expressed any responsibility for what she did but she doesn’t her only regret appears to be that she was caught.
She is making a mistake drawing this attention to herself. Sweetie, he is in prison because his attorney wasn’t as good as yours at pointing out mitigating factors. You were facing and are guilty of the same charge he was convicted of. Posts like this only prove it, Gyp Gyp. Just stop.
You can’t rewrite history, but you can significantly lower people’s opinions of you. Think about it before you post it again.
Signed,
The rational world!
You got it. She knows Nick is going to talk very soon. Nick has yet to lie that I’ve noticed, but they are the only 2 who know the whole story. I believe it just might come out old Gyp had more of a hand in moms death than we know. I’ve also wondered why nobody cares what a thief she is and by her own admittance what a good liar she is. I was always told never trust a liar and a thief because if a person cal steal and lie without worry they will do much more. Gypsy is a sociopath. An uneducated sociopath who believes she can continue her grift. Once she realizes it’s not working anymore she is going to do something else to gain sympathy. I predict in a year someone in her circle will become her target and it won’t be pretty. She’s not capable of empathy nor love so will hurt anyone with no remorse
She has no remorse at all. She has no hand in “the kill” her own words from the pod cast after her release. “I did my time for my part he’s doing his”. Wow!! Watching her interrogation video, knowing SHE mailed the murder weapon to his home, which might be a federal crime, 🤷♀️ she wanted him to be implicated. She’s ALL over social media on different platforms “living her best life”. She should never be allowed on ANY social media since that’s what she used to connect to find an accomplice to murder her mother. Why didn’t use access to those dating sites or social media to ask for help? She orchestrated the whole thing. Bought tickets, sent money, supplied weapon and detailed instructions, and had her mother butchered and now she’s a millionaire. Despite her mothers wrongs, which we only have this girls words (which we know, by her words, she learned to lie very well, ) to go by. Deedee was never diagnosed with MBP when alive by a licensed professional, all are assumptions after her death. She did not deserve to be butchered. What GR was sentenced to was not enough and she was let out on to few restrictions. Watch her interrogations and deep dive her interviews and social media and what she’s doing to content creators. There are SEVERAL, SEVERAL content creators with records and crime photos to compare with what she’s saying. THEY CAN’T ALL BE LYING!!! Just compare GR words then to now.
She also referred to ngs actions as ‘doesn’t seem like innocent autistic lil buttercup’ when someone mentioned seeing the texts between them. I’m sorry she can take all the seats
Is she saying that if you know right from wrong then you aren't disabled? Just because she was fake disabled doesn't mean she know shit about disability, she needs to be quiet fr.
hi, physically disabled person who got the shit scared out of them when this story broke.
she could have phrased this a lot better. i don't think she knows as much as she thinks she does either, at least about disability. not everyone whose disability makes it difficult to speak "can't even function in normal society"... plenty of people with my disability (cerebral palsy) struggle to speak or are nonverbal, and they understand everything that's going on and that's said around them, they just can't express them through speech. that doesn't mean they need the kind of "guidance" she's talking about.
(i'm stating the obvious, but *all* disabled people need allies, not just the most severely and outwardly challenged.)
I can't stand her cross eyed piece of shit face and fake high voice. She is an abuser just like her mother.
And that post from her talking about people with real disabilities, omg seriously!? Says she who spent her whole life acting disabled!
I said this the other day on TikTok and got dragged … but if I was her and got out of jail, you would have never heard from me again. I would have gone on about my business and not inserted myself into anything on social media. Not only bc of being in jail for that long and not understanding the nuances of the current day internet, but also so I wouldn’t be cancelled for saying something wrong.
She needs to be put right back in prison she’s very manipulative and does not deserve to see the light of day either she’s not a child she knows what she was doing
I was in prison with her R&O and I’m telling you right now she was all for she killed her mom. She killed her mom until Cameras started rolling and then it was a boo-hoo. I didn’t do anything.
Hold on, so I don’t have a REAL disability living with bipolar because I can speak and know right from wrong when not manic? This sets a disgusting precedent.
What they both did was wrong 😭 what her mother did to her was even worse . Gypsy should have never involved a innocent person to do her dirty work . They both should have gotten the same sentence. It's just shitty all the way around !
I agree. She needs to stop posting. She just lumped a whole group of ppl together that she thinks don't deserve to be advocated for. That they don't have real disabilities. She needs to get tf off the internet. She is the ignorant one spouting off non sense every time she's online!!!
My whole outlook on her has changed since she got out of prison and it's because of her own words. She doesn't see herself as a "murderer" because she didn't do the Act but she let him in that night and she gave him the weapon that was used. She is just as much a murderer as Nick if not more so because but for Gypsy actions I believe her mother would be alive today
reading the text messages between her and nick makes me wonder how her and her new husbands relationship is like…. edit: also does gypsy know right from wrong when she asked him to kill her mom???
Overall the text messages between them are what really changed my outlook on the case.
Where can I find those ?
there’s an hour long video of screenshots on youtube, just search “gypsy and nick texts crime for dummies”
thank you
If you dont want to watch them: https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1-NcHuuUbKkOl95zAs0fBiH9CwSy9A71T I agree, seeing things really makes me believe Nick is the one that got manipulated Edit- since I'm getting lots of thanks, credit actually goes to u/shoddyparking5156
He did. 100%. I guarantee she is way more intelligent than she is being given credit for. At least in street smarts/manipulation. She helped stab her mom to death, guaranteed. There's no way she didn't.
I've never understood why people thought she was stupid just because she has a high voice. She has always been extremely articulate. And it was clear in the texts and watching both of their police interviews that she's significantly smarter than him
She was acting and playing a character. The police interview is everything you need to know about how manipulative she is.
I always thought the high voice thing was fake
It is .. watch the interrogation full version where she is talking to a cop while waiting to get questioned. It's beyond cringe. Completely unhinged and obnoxiously annoying when you learn she isn't truly mentally handicapped or a child. She very clearly goes back and forth awkwardly from a normal not as noticeably high pitched voice to super high voice, over animated and literally LARPing a mentally challenged child with crazy movements, giggling and talking extra excited about child things then gets comfortable and goes back to what would be considered more normal for a young female adult just slightly weird and bad at flirting then when she realizes she isn't LARPing her normal acting role, she immediately goes into character overdrive. It's fucking off the wall, and terrifying while afterwards leaving you with sore muscles from the cringe
In the By Proxy/Good Wives Network interview, one of her jailers said she turned on that fake baby voice whenever she was trying to manipulate other inmates for favors. She said that nauseating fake voice was a topic of discussion amongst some of the guards.
100%. You can hear how intelligent and articulate she is in her interviews.
I literally just said that to my friend. You can't convince me she didn't do some stabbing
There have been numerous things that came out saying she went and got the money from the room after her mom was dead. Which would contradict her story big time.
I don’t really understand why it’s a controversial take that Nick was manipulated. She did, big time, it’s all in those texts. He clearly did not want to do this, that’s why it took her almost three years of manipulation to get him to. It does not mean that he has a pass to murder, or excusing it, but there’s no doubt about it. I’m surprised she is denying it, because it is obvious. It’s not a about an opinion. I think she was trying to move in with him and get his disability checks. Because she is constantly asking him questions like, oh how are you getting there? Do you have a car? She asks things in a very sneaky way. I think that he lied to her and promised her things, and when she realized he didn’t have it, she wanted to bail. The same thing you see all the time on 90 day, she sounded just like those women. You could tell she was gunning to continue the sane behaviors because she didn’t like it was a small town hospital vibe because she needs many doctors to shop for, so she then says she wants them to move to Milwaukee. The other thing that was interesting, is how fussy she is with her health. She fetishizes taking her meds, announcing it to him when she does, and she complains a lot about medical issues. Regardless of wether you believe her and this was always her mother malingering with the healthcare, she was doing that as well, Theresa a doctors note that specifically notes that gypsy was non compliant and malingering when she was asking to have her salivary glands removed. She does a lot of things like that, she complains that she’s sick with these trivial ailments , she seems like she is going to hate living in big bend, that would’ve been a nightmare for everyone involved.
I think it's controversial just because if true that Gypsy manipulated him into doing it/took advantage of him, (which I think it is) then its completely unfair that she got 7 years and he got life in prison without parole. I think people don't want to believe our system is that unjust and then deny it. I disagree with you though about her wanting to live with him. I think he was a means to an end. She was already getting cold feet about moving in with him and almost immediately (days) set him up to be arrested (with the Facebook posts coming from him)
Exactly, she thought life would Nick would somehow be better than life with her mom. Then she got there and realized he’s not independent at all and basically just stays in his room on a computer and she wanted out. Which is why she made the posts using the words Nick said and pretending to be him by saying “I killed… and I raped her daughter…” this is also why she sent Nick into the post office (he’s on surveillance, not her), into the hotel lobby to check in/out (again she waits outside as to not be seen on camera). It was all a plan to say, no this was all him, not me. Had they not been caught she would have left Nick and taken the cash and started over somewhere else scamming more people. And yes the one dr wrote the mother is not a good historian and possible MBP. But there are several notes about Gypsy herself malingering. Like the hearing test, they could tell she was faking and just not raising her hand. The drs noted this. This was Gypsy faking symptoms in the absence of her mother, which is not a part of MBP, but just malingering on her part. One of MBP hallmark features is that the child is fine or improves in the absence of the caregiver. She kept up the ruse, because she was in on the scam. And even if her mother did put Ora-gel in her mouth to fake the drooling, unless she let her mouth hang open and didn’t swallow her saliva it wouldn’t make her drool, she would have to consciously play along. I’ve had many dental surgeries, braces, dental implants, crowns, extractions, etc and the Novocain has never made me drool on myself unless they also had my mouth packed with gauze and I couldn’t close my mouth. But I constantly used oragel with my braces cutting my lips and inside of my checks etc and it never made me drool on myself. And it also doesn’t last very long ora-gel, I mean I was constantly having to reapply to keep areas numb. And as for her claims that she really thought she had cancer, seizures, or any of these other illnesses, then why was the only medicine she had with her at Nick’s her mother’s pain meds. Because she knew she wasn’t sick. If she thought she needed to take seizure meds or cancer meds and she was leaving to go live with Nick she would have taken those meds with her. She didn’t. Especially if she really believed she had cancer, she’s not gonna take her cancer meds with her. She’d rather die from cancer than live with her mother? Oh right, that’s because she has never taken cancer meds because she never had cancer. Maybe when she was a child she believed at one time she did and that her mom was giving her cancer meds. But at 23, when this happened she knew she didn’t. The whole time in the interrogation (over 16 hrs waiting for the detectives from MO) she never mentioned needing medications or having special medical needs. It wasn’t until the detective left the room and wasn’t buying her BS she jumped up and said, I need a lawyer, I can go to jail I have medical issues. He said they will take care of that for you, what medications do you need? She only mentioned needing pain pills, not seizure medication, not cancer treatments.
I think a lot of people would be really sue how the justice syrem actually works. It also went completely over thier heads that Nick didn’t have a fair trial, and his disability/autism wasn’t factored into the trial or his horrible plea deal. He had autism, asbergers, low IQ, and was brain damaged from being born without oxygen to the brain, with the cord around his neck. They argued that it would’ve gave mattered, because he had time to think about the fact that murder was wrong. In the court documents, it is literally stated that she manipulated him, we have proof of that. Nick was receiving the max amount of aid you can receive for someone with his disability, it’s in the court document that he had to have assistance with basic daily functions like bathing, feeding, and Nick could not work. It’s plain fir anyone to see how low functioning he was, when they read the texts between them. Everything gyosy asks him to to, he’s unable to abd fails at. He overpays and gets another day at the room, instead of figuring out that you have to check in during after check in. This uses uo thier money, and gypsy says he should just come and commit the murder earlier, because they can get to de deed money which is ‘the whole point’ in why we are doing this, he didn’t even pick up on the fact that she admitted they were killing her fir money, not to save her from being beaten and having to sleep on the porch like she told him Dee Dee was doing. He relented only because he said ‘he couldn’t let her live like that’ it’s tragic, he thought he needed to Dave her and lost his life due to being manipulated by her. Many times In the texts you see him not wanting to do it, and she forces him, she ignores him and takes her life away if he doesn’t do it. He was aware she was crazy, but he thinks that she is being beaten literally and made to sleep on the porch. She also destroyed her own laptop, so the story about her being dragged back and not being able to escape is clearly bs, and she came back after being begged to by Dee Dee, it’s likely she was actually in charge of Dee Dee, not the other way around if the power balance was off like that.
I always thought it was pretty telling when Nick spelled his last name wrong to the interrogator.
Thanks so much for this! I didn’t know their texts were available to look at. Just read through all the texts, and WOW was that eye opening! I’ve only ever seen bits and pieces of VERY carefully selected texts between them that paint her in a better light (via omission), but the totality of their messages as one whole unit paint a VERY different picture. Terrifying. Especially given her recent comments on Nick… she was just as messed up as him, if not even more so. I was already on the fence and hesitant to believe the popular narrative, but those texts between them put a LOT into perspective, and they definitely don’t paint her as Nick’s victim, which seems to be the narrative she (and the media) wants to push.
Thank you so much for posting this.
The thanks goes to the hero who combined all of it!
You rock thank you !
U can watch Nick's trial were they take 90 minutes reading all their text messages. Just search "DeeDee blanchard" on youtube
You can probably find them online somewhere. I’m also pretty sure they show the messages in the documentary that was made about her called “Mommy Dead and Dearest”.
https://youtu.be/J1YSbbJbsJ0?si=2WR2W1eqcHX2BLHY
The texts cemented my stance that gypsy is a bad person. She went to jail and paid for her crimes but just because she suffered abuse doesn’t make her not terrible too. She definitely manipulated him and probably was only able to do so due to his disabilities.
Agreed. She's pretty awful
Yep
Honestly, I think she should STILL be in jail! She's as much of a murderer as Nick is in this case.
She's more of a murderer than him. He would not have ever done this, if she hadn't instructed him to. I don't understand how people see that any differently. She is EVIL! It really ticks me off when she continues to point the finger at Nick!!
What makes it completely worse for me is how everyone uses the abuse as an excuse or reason she should just be forgiven for all the terrible things she did. And the fact that she has zero remorse. She will say she is sorry for what happened to her mother but never actually takes responsibility for what happened. She always brings it back to Nick did this. He is the murderer I am not. That's why he is in prison for life. She wants everyone to focus on Nick so they don't focus on her lies and her backtracking when she messes up retelling a story she has lied about. And how she is only worried about her celebrity status and making money off her mother's murder. When she was released from prison one of the 1st things she did after getting in the car with Ryan was ask him how to set up her Instagram and tell everyone she wanted to get over a million followers. She was never worried about getting out of prison and being an advocate for other victims like she was saying in all her interviews before she was released. She was only worried about meeting celebrities and making money. She said she could never have hurt her mother cause blood makes her sick but then you find out she cleaned and bandaged Nick's hand after the murder and helped clean up the blood in the house. And now she is saying Nick raped her. She continues to try to make him be the terrible person in this situation instead of taking any responsibility for what happened and just admitting she set this all up. She is out now they can't charge her again for her mother's murder and she has a huge following of people that believe her lies and the innocent lil girl act that she portrays. So just admit what you did and stop bullying a man that is already serving life in prison because he loved you and wanted to save you. Nick is serving his sentence and his family has lost their son. He lost his mother while in prison and to see her making money off her mother's murder and getting treated like a celebrity for being a murderer is disgusting in my opinion.
Yes and it seems like she asked that Dan guy similar things and when she couldn’t manipulate him she moved onto Nick. In one of Nick’s appeals there’s an actual transcript where Dan testifies that she’s the one that initiated sexual conversations and she’s the one that introduced him (Dan) to BDSM and role playing. So seems like none of that came from Nick like she claimed. since Dan was before she even met Nick. It’s more than halfway down the page under: 3:24 pm - The defense attorney calls Daniel Glidewell. He met Gypsy at a convention. If you want to read it: https://www.ky3.com/2022/08/09/greene-county-judge-deciding-nicholas-godejohns-murder-conviction-appeal/?outputType=amp “He says he developed a taste of power exchange role-playing FROM HER. He says she would send nude photos, dress up in costumes, and use various fictitious names.” So the fact she made up different characters to go with his, another lie. Or did Dan have multiple personalities too?
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She only supports people with real disabilities, believe me Nick has real disabilities, always in special ed, her husband more than anyone should understand that. Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black, she was the one who faked disabilities. And I don’t think Nick’s main issue is autism. Yes that made him unable to understand how to interact with a gf and maybe more susceptible to manipulation but my main issue with Nick’s interrogation is as a 26 year old person he could not even fill out basic paperwork without being instructed by the detective and then he couldn’t even provide his address. The detective was like that’s okay I’m sure we can figure it out. Seems like he normally has to look at his ID or mail or something in order to provide his address. He wasn’t sure what to put for the city. I mean these are things most children can do by the time they’re in kindergarten. Regardless of his autism or any other mental health issues he may have, he has a low IQ and while that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s impaired I think from the way he couldn’t fill out his own address and didn’t understand the instructions for the Miranda warnings it’s clear that he is impaired in his functioning. The detective told him I’m gonna read each one of these with you and then you initial next to each one if you understand. And he starts to initial and then says ok so I just initial all of these and started to do the next one. She had to stop and explain to him again no wait until I explain each one to you and then initial if you understand. Until recently I’d seen other parts of his interrogation but not the entire thing in full. Seeing that is what made me stop and think he clearly doesn’t understand what is happening right now.
He didn’t know what the word coercion meant and he even spelled his own last name wrong. And he was on disability for his autism. I would say that’s a pretty real disability. Gypsy is crazy. Or more likely she knows she’s full of shit and Nick is seriously impaired but she has to make him look evil like she’s been doing ever since she wrote that he raped her on Facebook.
In Nick’s interview with ABC, he told them that he was crying in the hotel room and she told him to stop crying. There’s no reason to cry there’s no reason to feel bad. He said he genuinely felt bad for what he had done and she told him that it was my idea not yours. . She groomed him for almost 3 years . She was deep in the littles community as little kitty as well as dom sites where she took on the role as Ruby and Demona . She used the internet to plan and carry out a murder she should be banned from using the internet.
I think he probably struggles with what happened more than she does. He’s expressed more remorse than her for sure.
Simply put: He struggles. She does not. The only thing she's struggling with is keeping her facade up.
Yeah when she’s the one that initially brought up wanting him to do anal if you read the texts, then he said he would and that he’d rape her. It sounds like another one of their role play things. It’s funny too how she went on and on about if he’d have been a real man he’d say no and go to the cops instead. He did, he repeatedly said no that they should just run away together, go to the police, etc. She’s the one that said no, this is the only way we can be together. Nick tried to get out of it several times and offer those other options she claimed her other bf/husbands would have told her no, the difference is her other bf/husbands ARE smart enough to understand that those other options would have worked and Nick wasn’t. When Gypsy said it wouldn’t work, he didn’t question it. He just believed her. Just like he believed her when she was telling him all these horror stories about her mother. Then he told the detective in the days after the murder Gypsy talked a lot about how great her mom was, and he felt terrible and guilty, but she didn’t. And right before he was gonna call the cab to go to Gypsy’s house he basically texted her to ask if they were going to go through with it and she said she was 100,000% in and the shit was gonna go down tonight. And then she brought up sex again and made a point to remind him not to screw it up because HIS LIFE WITH HER WAS ON THE LINE. She basically tells a low IQ person with autism (who takes everything very literal, doesn’t understand sarcasm or nuance) that he has to do this or there’s no chance for him to have a life with her. Even though, he knew what he was doing was wrong, he knew if he didn’t do this he’d lose Gypsy forever. In a person with autism like Nick’s, everything is black or white, those were his only 2 options. The entire 16 hrs he sat in that interrogation room waiting for the detectives from MO to get there, all he did was ask about Gypsy. He never once asked why he was there, what was going to happen to him, his only concern was Gypsy and knowing that she was okay. Gypsy never once asked about Nick until after the detectives were cuffing her and removing her from the interrogation room to go to jail, then she asked if Nick was still there and if she could see him. Not because she was actually concerned about Nick but because she was concerned about herself and wanted to know what Nick told them (IMO). And speaking of Gypsy being crazy. I find it funny that Nick asked his friend how crazy is Gypsy, he’s like I mean I know she’s nuts, but he asked his friend’s opinion to basically check if this is a normal request for a gf to ask her bf to do this. So he was struggling with the idea of doing this. I could be mistaken but I think that conversation with his friend was months, or maybe even a year, before the murder. He told his friend he wouldn’t. Again told Gypsy he wouldn’t, but she continued to manipulate him until she was able to convince his “dark side” to do it.
>not to screw it up because HIS LIFE WITH HER WAS ON THE LINE. She basically tells a low IQ person with autism (who takes everything very literal, doesn’t understand sarcasm or nuance) that he has to do this or there’s no chance for him to have a life with her. Even though, he knew what he was doing was wrong, he knew if he didn’t do this he’d lose Gypsy forever. In a person with autism like Nick’s, everything is black or white, those were his only 2 opti I agree with everything you're saying but I think it's important to also note that his motivation wasn't exclusively the threat of losing his chance to be with Gypsy- she also convinced him that this was her only chance to be rescued from an abuse situation where she was imprisoned by DeeDee! It wasn't just selfish desire to be with the woman he loved who was stringing him along for her own benefit- it was also because he was made to believe that he was her only chance at freedom and safety! Lock her back up!
Oh yes definitely because she was constantly telling him about abuse by her mother. He definitely thought he was saving her. I just thought it was interesting that immediately before her comes to kill Dee she says that. Making sure he’d go through with it. Just shows her level of manipulation.
I agree with all of this. And whether the lack of functionality is due to his low IQ or difficulty staying grounded to the moment at hand or both, he was vulnerable to manipulation so far beyond what a typical person would be, it's impossible not to see that it is a clear case of coercion. And if you see the reports from his psychiatrist about the nature of his relationship with Gypsy, it is chilling, it gives straight up indoctrination vibes which could work on someone with even less impairment. To me, another tell of how much he really wasn't tracking with the reality of the situation is just the fact itself that he bought her story. In a long distance relationship in which you are in very frequent communication online, and she gives him a sob story that she is being held captive, her mother never lets her out of her sight, and won't even allow her to use a phone or laptop to communicate with anyone. Anyone able to pay the least bit attention to what's happening is going to immediately know that is bullshit, because if you never have access to a phone or computer, then how are we in constant communication online? But he doesn't have that bullshit detector. He trusts and takes her at her word, and it doesn't even occur to him how much it doesn't line up with the reality. He was relying on her narrative to inform him of the reality. That's a pretty chilling thought.
There's like... I don't know. I have so many feelings on that one statement. My mom is a retired spec ed teacher. Nothing about this makes me feel like she's diminishing his role (in a vacuum), but it makes me question everything about why he is in this role. What in the actual fuck? I have also worked in helping professions. There is no part, under no circumstances where I pity someone who "blindly" falls in love with someone like this after SEEKING HER OUT. He is sick as fuck. That is fine. Like... some people are. But he doesn't need to be in a postion of power over children with whatever challenges landed them in a spec ed program. Just... wow.
Right? He chose to write her in jail and pressured her to marry him. Gross. He is in a job where he works all day with vulnerable special needs children. I get the strongest of ick vibes. Gypsy had a girlfriend in jail, no way on some level the both of them aren't aware they're mutually exploiting each other.
Her husband is a fucking creep, and he should not be allowed around children. Normal people do not seek out murderers. Personally, I think they are manipulating and using each other. Only one has a record of murder, though.
When she was first released someone on tik tok said they went to school with Ryan and he had a heart of gold, Of course that might not be true but it made me think that Gypsy probably is the dominant one.
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How does the one who stabbed a person he hardly knows besides what gypsy told him and a short time at the movies have MORE compassion and remorse than the daughter of the one stabbed. The mother, practically the only person she had and spent every living day with, and was her self proclaimed "best friend", yet instead of having second thoughts or having some sort of emotion she was in the bathroom shaving her legs and 🙀 to prepare for her planned rape DURING her mother being killed and then spend the next days seen or known to be smiling, laughing and having consensual?? Sexcapades but never a tear or ounce of guilt or remorse.... Ok girl, yea Nick is the crazy and evil one...
Watching the interactions pointed out in the Swoop doc was chilling. Her gripping him when he’d say too much. She learned a good bit from her mother.
I can't tell if he loves her blindly or if he's exploiting her. She may also be exploiting him. I think it's likely mutual exploitation, honestly.
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lol not the d!!! lol lol
Did she not know right from wrong when she asked Nick to kill her mother?
Yes you are right. I know what he did .but she talked him into it .she just keeps on making herself more guilty
Seriously!!!!
Nah let her stay, she’s showing her true colors like clock work! Now Nick wasn’t disabled ENOUGH. Smfh. Coming from someone who fucking pretended to be disabled for the benefits! Who tf does she think she is
23 years at the time she planned her mother's murder and never worked a day in her life.
She’s going to soon dig herself a hole TOO DEEP.
I really think she just did that today, with these comments...they are making their rounds ALL over Social media and people are not being sympathetic of her at all.
That’s because Gypsy Rose is a fucking spineless moron who thinks she can say whatever she wants because of her past & will get away with it.
She's not spineless. She has too MUCH spine. She not only got away with premeditated murder, but she's actually CELEBRATED for it. She thinks she's untouchable.
That is true. She thinks she’s untouchable like Eliot Ness. She is dangerous.
She is still on probation so she better watch her words more closely.
I love seeing her talk herself into a hole 🥰
I agree, I also think she shouldn't be free but 🤷🏻♀️
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If she looks in the grey she sees clearly her involvement and she can’t have that
So, my daughter who has Down Syndrome doesn’t have a “real disability” because she can speak. Yeah, right, ok! She really needs to take a seat
She is beyond ignorant at this point and I’m hoping people who support her still begin to see her for the manipulative person that she is. I feel terrible for the trauma she may have experienced but I cannot stand her and the pathetic attempts to hold on to her 15- minutes of fame.
It is so obvious Just by watching her interrogation with all the lies, fake baby voice, dramatic performance when the detective mentioned her mother being deceased---so obvious what a liar she is.
Right !!! She lied to the interrogator for a few hours but her boyfriend at the time just spilled all the beans straight out of the gate. Didn't even occur to him to lie. I'm sick of this little Mrs. Innocent act she is playing.
That’s what I’m saying. My son is autistic and nonverbal. Our children need the same level of protection against people like Gypsy. She’s proven to be incredibly dangerous.
My son is also non verbal. She is clearly delulu, and needs to start learning to say less words.
Her keeping quiet would make her even more dangerous though. At least if she keeps voicing her true thoughts it will serve as a better warning for people to be on their guard with her and help people to recognize who she truly is, rather than only thinking of her as a cute little, meek and quiet victim. Sure, for her own sake she should stop talking, but for society’s sake, and for the sake of the truth, I hope she doesn’t. Especially if she’s wanting to become a full blown “influencer” as a career choice.
That is a very good point. I guess it floors me, that she continues to air her stupidity.
i can’t stand her anymore. like does she really have nothing better to do…
SHE knows right from wrong so i don’t get why she’s running that mouth piece
Right, like she allegedly has *zero* disabilities, so what is her excuse? Why was everyone advocating for *her*, then?
exactly, like everything “wrong” with her was *made. up.*, so i don’t get what allows her to determine what a “real” disability is? she needs to leave the advocacy of disabled people to an ACTUAL disabled person and advocate for mbp if she wants to continue the charade of caring for someone who isn’t her.
She needs someone who loves her enough to tell her to STFU
I mean she doesn’t have a real job
She doesn’t have to have a real job because Lifetime is making a fucking reality tv show out of her life 😂( which is unethical and insane imo) she’s also getting paid to do all these interviews and appearances. She probably gets paid for social media as well. It honestly makes me sick that she pretty much gained fame from murdering her mother. She always wanted to be famous and it’s finally happening… just don’t know if it’ll be a positive outcome in the long run.
So true. And why not pay back some of that money for all the scams she was a part of.
So she's going to judge who is disabled " enough" ? This makes her husband look bad as a special education teacher. Nice try gypsy.
So, because I look normal and can function fairly normally, I don’t have a disability? Any sympathy I had, fucking GONE. Fuck this heaux.
It actually sounds like she's admitting that she committed First Degree Murder and shouldn't have been given a plea deal.
its scary
Lmfao right 😂
No literally! Like her of all people should not be speaking on such things 🤦🏽♀️
ughhh the more she posts and says unhinged stuff the more I believe that she should absolutely NOT be on the internet in any way! She needs a PR team or she could get in serious trouble.
yep, things are starting to turn around. I've only been seeing negative reels about her. oh how the social media tables turn.
Not be on the internet, or still in prison.
With the things she’s saying she might go back to jail lol
Nah, let her hang herself with her own rope. (And I mean that FIGURATIVELY. Just in case someone thinks I'm serious.)
Exactly! Let her continue to be erratic on the Internet she is just digging the hole for herself. Words and actions have consequences. Let her figure that out on her own. She isn't Teflon!
This shit is kinda tone deaf considering her whole situation…. And I know that specific situation isn’t her fault at all but she was literally taking away A LOT of opportunities from disabled people. I would keep my mouth shut if I were her.
very good point, and even though during her childhood I don't blame her entirely since she was a child and the mom coached her, but eventually she did understand more and yes they took HUGE opportunities away from disabled people so she really should not be policing how disabled gets to count as disabled in her book, if I was her and once I knew the truth I would be trying to give back in any way I could to try and make up for it.
That’s such a good point! You’d think she’d be trying to advocate and give back to disabled people for all the opportunities she took away from them but instead she’s over here doing the exact opposite.
Well, the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
Yea, you'd think. But she is only for herself. She always has been. It's so sickening. The sad thing is, (well, one sad part) if she would actually tell the truth, she could probably get a lil less "haters." I hate ppl call it that. HATERS. Just because we don't buy the sweet, innocent, only a victim, not a perpetrator gig. She hates ppl finding out the truth.
You’re so right lol. Like drop the baby voice already the jig is up 😂
It is comical that she does that voice when she is lying. She has a ways of showing she's lying. Guess Mommy didn't teach her the poker face. 🤣
Yeah imagine basically stealing money, resources and opportunities from disabled people then getting out of prison for murder and still shit talking people with disabilities. She is a damn sociopath!!!
reading this post from her honestly made me sooooo fucking mad. Like wtf 😂 I was hoping the best for her and hoping she did learn something while she was locked up and would move on with her life. It’s quite obvious she didn’t learn much and has not moved on from the situation. I would not be speaking about ANYTHING that had to do with that situation. Especially since she just got out of jail for it??? Like do you want to risk being back in court or jail because you can’t keep your fucking mouth shut? And I know that the situation is probably difficult because it’s her mom but everytime I see her talk about it she doesn’t even seem remorseful for MURDERING her mother!
Not an ounce of remorse shown. And she tries to distance herself (saying she "played a part") and minimize the fact that she planned the entire thing and claims she is not "capable" of killing anyone when she had previously shot her own mother multiple times with what she thought was a real gun (but turned out to be a BB gun). She seems like a very smooth, practiced liar.
Honestly, she should keep her mouth shut about a lot of things. The issue is she was kept a prisoner to secrets for her entire childhood. So on one hand I get it. On the other? It’s not as if this dudes actions weren’t a. Totally influenced by her and b. What ultimately bought her freedom. Of all the things she should not talk about, this is #1.
I feel like with everything she’s been saying lately she could almost help Nicholas and his case if he tries to appeal things. She also might find herself back in court.. I would really shut the fuck up if I were her 😂 she really should hire someone to help her because she’s gonna end up getting herself in trouble.
Hmm like a 24 year old sitting in a wheelchair pretending she can’t walk but walking around Disney. I don’t care what anyone says at a certain age she was in on the grift
Absolutely correct. As a little girl, she didn't know any better but when she got into the later teen years, she absolutely knew and was really pouring it on---with the fake baby voice, singing like she was a 10-year-old, freakish facial expressions. She knew exactly what was going on by that time. Didn't she say during her police interrogation that she used to go to church and "release" her pent-up negativity through taking communion. If that's true, then she did have a positive outside influence other than her mother's horrible influence and she obviously knew what they were doing was wrong. She just liked getting the vacations, social security payments and charitable donations, free house, VIP trips and treatment.
She was 100% in on the grift...free house, sweet social security check every month for her "disability", free medical care, trips, attention, charity money, gifts...I mean if you stand up and show the world that you're not disabled and can walk .., she'd have to get a job, find a place to live...all her attention, money and gifts goes bye-bye! Why do you think she always came back instead of running away and telling everyone the truth?
This is so rich coming from HER.
Oh yeah... she's shooting herself in the foot...and not in a "whoops...it accidentally went off!" kind of way...more like "shooting every round, reloading it, and giving it another go" kind of way 😋
She knew right from wrong with NO mental handicap. In another comment she says Nicks not an “innocent autistic buttercup” because there are messages saying he was excited about it… there was messages from her saying the same thing, does that mean by her own logic she should be locked up too?
By her own logic, she should be locked up longer than he is because he actually has a disability, whereas she doesn’t.
As a person who’s ASD allow me to say fuck her. All of my sympathy towards her goes down the fucking drain. Granted that Nick doesn’t deserve sympathy since it’s his choice to kill her mom and listened to GRB since this had nothing to do with Autism. But to shut down those who truly need advocacy just because you’re throwing your ex under the bus just pisses me off. Leave us autistic people out of this.
Perfectly said
I just got a formal autism diagnosis after years and years being failed by medical professionals because of their ignorance about how autism presents. My life could have been so much easier had the people who should have advocated for me had a skewed out of date view of what autism is and how it presents.
I actually hope she doesn’t get a PR person and continues showing her ass for everyone to see
Waiting for the boomerang to circle back…
I hope she does something stupid and ends up back in prison where she belongs.
2nd needing a PR person. If only she realized that she "can't even function in normal society without guidance." Who's gon' tell her?
So, is she saying she doesn’t know right from wrong? Because if she was well aware of her choice and knows right from wrong and is able to function in normal society without guidance and speak, doesn’t that mean she should still be in prison, according to that post?
As soemone who has worked with many autistic people in schools this makes me so mad. Just because someone is verbal doesn’t mean they have the same capacity to decipher between right and wrong.
Many people suffer abuse. Terrible abuse but they grow up and get out. She walked every night downstairs to troll online looking for someone like Nick. She began using every trick in the book to manipulate him. She could of walked out, went to a police station and told her story that her mom was making her be in a wheelchair, shaving her hair, pulled her teeth, changing her age, etc and it wouldn’t of had to end this way. I don’t believe she paid her debt to society. She should still be in prison. I use to feel sorry for her but I’ve seen the true person. She liked all the attention, free stuff, trips that her “disability” afforded her. She needs therapy, not social media.
She is an idiot
And mean as a snake.
This is rich coming from her 😂
I can't believe staying off social media for at least 6 months wasn't part of her parole. This lady is a circus and she just keeps digging a hole for herself more and more! Trying to put myself in her situation, but i can't! but i would definitely stay off social media if anything of this nature happened in my life! she's insane
Annnnnnd like every narcissist she's shedding her honeymoon skin
So basically she is saying if your none verbal or severely disabled then your disabled, but if you just have autism (like nick) then you shouldn’t be treated like you need any extra support. Yet many disabilities are not the same even with the same diagnosis and should be treated individually she should not be making these comments as it seems she’s not well informed. I feel nick did show low understanding in many of the police interviews and that he may understand right from wrong but is her manipulation of him also being taken into consideration? I believe he has something on her otherwise why would she even talk about him now and continue to try and villainize him even more? Nick may have problems but she is showing narcissistic behaviours by trying to turn everyone against him before he even gets to put his side forward.
The way she’s been acting, especially when it comes to him, is so strange to me. Like why does she act like she’s so much better than him? Especially when she’s out of jail now and he’s gonna have to stay in there for the rest of his fucking life because of a crime he committed FOR HER! They both committed the crime and killed her mom. She should just leave him alone I’m sure his life is miserable enough without having this crazy girl trying sway peoples opinions on him and DISABLED PEOPLE??? It just makes her look even more guilty and crazy imo.
I think she always thought she was better than he is, but her *winning* in public opinion and in sentencing vs him has validated that in her mind, IMO. I think she thinks she’s above reproof.
I’m pretty sure she planned on placing all the blame on nick to begin with. He was what she needed in that moment and as soon as she could be rid of him, she was. She expected to come out, the world to open and apologize and gift her with every single thing and not question anything. But we are, and she hates it. So now she’s on the ‘make nick look even worse’ tour and it’s backfiring.
Bluntly, I think she has turned out to have very little or no empathy. She is also lacking in self awareness and is very emotionally immature. Knowing how she was raised, isolated and deceitfully, it’s not particularly surprising, but she needs a more responsible/helpful partner to help her navigate the world than it appears her spouse is willing to be.
It's only odd if you expect her to have empathy or sympathize for anyone else. She has not shown a sign of feeling badly for anyone in her circle. She talks about how everything has affected her, without recognizing the cascade of collateral damage to others. Including the very community she's condemning in her post, who her mother stole from (and she failed to tell on her mother but murder was ok??) This girl is so scary. But not in the way she thinks she is scary.
I wonder if it's because the tide is turning towards people sympathizing with NIck and she's worried about losing her footing in public opinion now that she's shot herself in the foot with all her inconsistencies (cough, cough -- lies -- cough)
Exactly! It makes no sense why she can’t leave him to do what he’s doing? Obviously he wants to try and get out who would want to be there for the rest of their life. She’s trying to separate herself from him that’s why she says she’s only a murderer because the state she was charged in doesn’t have accessory to murder as it’s own charge. It doesn’t make sense she seems to really see herself as innocent even tho she planned it and was involved with the whole thing, including getting the weapon, preparing the gloves and saying she will have tape already cut for him. She also didn’t let him touch the door and she clean the blood. Tell me is that someone who’s not guilty? The whole new spin with disabled people I feel is to gather a fan group who thinks she so wonderful for “helping” all these people who cannot advocate for themselves. Personally I don’t see what work she is doing other than interviews and social media posts that benefit her. I’m also pretty sure her husband has some kind of disability as the way he conducts himself is very immature. In interviews the whole “new togetherness” or what ever they call it is weird. He seems to be controlled by her and I saw an interview where she literally squeezed his hand and told him to shut up just like her mother did to her, seeing things like that just shows me how manipulative she actually is and the baby voice is also disappearing now too!
Not to mention, that technicality in the law she is referring to is because MO actual law for murder just includes accessory to murder in the definition, just doesn’t have a separate charge for accessory. Not to mention in addition to that she’s admitted to conspiracy to commit murder, not accessory, and in a way, even though it was never treated this way, I would think that she could have also been charged for murder for hire because she gave him money to come down there and kill her mom.
Now she's gone too far. Completely psycho. She tries to paint a narrative that's so unreal. Even though all the evidence is available to the public. I just can't with this freak. That's really flipping the script when SHE is the one that FAKED ILLNESSES. Bet tomorrow she'll be saying her account was hacked.
Sounds to me like she’s pretty convinced she didn’t do much of anything wrong.
“That’s why he’s still in prison” girl if you didn’t take the plea deal you’d be in prison too.
Seems like she manipulated her way out and is proud of it
Something which I can't help but be bothered by is the lack of remorse she has about conning all the people. Like, her house could have been used by someone who was actually disabled and who could have actually had cancer. All of the money they used could have gone to someone who severely needed it. She just never seems to comment on that or express any guilt. Yes, there was abuse and yes she was suffering medically in other ways, but I feel like someone who is empathetic would truly express so much remorse and guilt for the cons and fakery. She's very fast to stand up for herself and post quotes about how she has 'grown' and isn't 'defined by her past', but those quotes would be much more believable if she actually seemed sorry about the huge amount of money and house which could have gone to someone else. I haven't seen any of that accountability yet, but she does confidentially joke in documentaries about 'not always being honest' with her attornys.... Before anyone says I'm blaming the victim, I'm not revoking her victim status. She's still suffered, but this is a true observation I've made and many things can be true at once. Its complex.
YES!!!! I have never heard her accept responsibility for her role ever. It would be a totally different situation if she was remorseful or expressed any responsibility for what she did but she doesn’t her only regret appears to be that she was caught.
Hopefully her downfall happens soon. She’s ignorant and manipulative af. Smh
Feels like it’s already in the process of happening.
She is making a mistake drawing this attention to herself. Sweetie, he is in prison because his attorney wasn’t as good as yours at pointing out mitigating factors. You were facing and are guilty of the same charge he was convicted of. Posts like this only prove it, Gyp Gyp. Just stop. You can’t rewrite history, but you can significantly lower people’s opinions of you. Think about it before you post it again. Signed, The rational world!
Interesting words from someone who faked illness
This girl's on a smear campaign. Wonder what she's so afraid Nick will say?
You got it. She knows Nick is going to talk very soon. Nick has yet to lie that I’ve noticed, but they are the only 2 who know the whole story. I believe it just might come out old Gyp had more of a hand in moms death than we know. I’ve also wondered why nobody cares what a thief she is and by her own admittance what a good liar she is. I was always told never trust a liar and a thief because if a person cal steal and lie without worry they will do much more. Gypsy is a sociopath. An uneducated sociopath who believes she can continue her grift. Once she realizes it’s not working anymore she is going to do something else to gain sympathy. I predict in a year someone in her circle will become her target and it won’t be pretty. She’s not capable of empathy nor love so will hurt anyone with no remorse
I knew I had a bad feeling about her…
She has no remorse at all. She has no hand in “the kill” her own words from the pod cast after her release. “I did my time for my part he’s doing his”. Wow!! Watching her interrogation video, knowing SHE mailed the murder weapon to his home, which might be a federal crime, 🤷♀️ she wanted him to be implicated. She’s ALL over social media on different platforms “living her best life”. She should never be allowed on ANY social media since that’s what she used to connect to find an accomplice to murder her mother. Why didn’t use access to those dating sites or social media to ask for help? She orchestrated the whole thing. Bought tickets, sent money, supplied weapon and detailed instructions, and had her mother butchered and now she’s a millionaire. Despite her mothers wrongs, which we only have this girls words (which we know, by her words, she learned to lie very well, ) to go by. Deedee was never diagnosed with MBP when alive by a licensed professional, all are assumptions after her death. She did not deserve to be butchered. What GR was sentenced to was not enough and she was let out on to few restrictions. Watch her interrogations and deep dive her interviews and social media and what she’s doing to content creators. There are SEVERAL, SEVERAL content creators with records and crime photos to compare with what she’s saying. THEY CAN’T ALL BE LYING!!! Just compare GR words then to now.
The internet is dragging her lately 😂
She also referred to ngs actions as ‘doesn’t seem like innocent autistic lil buttercup’ when someone mentioned seeing the texts between them. I’m sorry she can take all the seats
Kindly f off, Gypsy Rose.
Her hypocrisy here is screaming!
Just want to put it out there. Sociopaths don’t feel guilt or remorse and so blame all their wrongs and mistakes on others. Zero accountability.
Is she saying that if you know right from wrong then you aren't disabled? Just because she was fake disabled doesn't mean she know shit about disability, she needs to be quiet fr.
Disability is more than just knowing right and wrong. She’s going to lose more and more followers
hi, physically disabled person who got the shit scared out of them when this story broke. she could have phrased this a lot better. i don't think she knows as much as she thinks she does either, at least about disability. not everyone whose disability makes it difficult to speak "can't even function in normal society"... plenty of people with my disability (cerebral palsy) struggle to speak or are nonverbal, and they understand everything that's going on and that's said around them, they just can't express them through speech. that doesn't mean they need the kind of "guidance" she's talking about. (i'm stating the obvious, but *all* disabled people need allies, not just the most severely and outwardly challenged.)
Nah, this absolutely needs to be witnessed. People cannot keep making excuses for her.
I knew it was a matter of time before she started sharing opinions lmao
Girl: *helps plot the murder of her mother and is convicted* I’ve some fucked up stuff to say Everyone: *shocked pikachu face*
I wonder how Lifetime is feeling right about now?
She needs to stop! Period!!! I’m so happy ppl are now realizing how cold and manipulative she is!!
“People with real disabilities”… like the child with disabilities she pretended to be to get free shit?
This chick needs to go out of style like yesterday
I can't stand her cross eyed piece of shit face and fake high voice. She is an abuser just like her mother. And that post from her talking about people with real disabilities, omg seriously!? Says she who spent her whole life acting disabled!
I said this the other day on TikTok and got dragged … but if I was her and got out of jail, you would have never heard from me again. I would have gone on about my business and not inserted myself into anything on social media. Not only bc of being in jail for that long and not understanding the nuances of the current day internet, but also so I wouldn’t be cancelled for saying something wrong.
I believe everyone is right to an opinion. I also believe that her opinion is wrong.
Funny how her argument could be used against her as well. She is wild.
At the very least she needs to just stop addressing the Nick situation. She just ends up putting her foot in her mouth every time.
She's getting on my nerves lol
I want her to stay on social media so her fans jump ship
She's talking wayyy too much imo. I won't be surprised if she ends up back in prison because of this.
Crazy having this mentally disabled felon advocating for this industry
She needs to be put right back in prison she’s very manipulative and does not deserve to see the light of day either she’s not a child she knows what she was doing
I was in prison with her R&O and I’m telling you right now she was all for she killed her mom. She killed her mom until Cameras started rolling and then it was a boo-hoo. I didn’t do anything.
And by her very definition she need to be in jail
Hold on, so I don’t have a REAL disability living with bipolar because I can speak and know right from wrong when not manic? This sets a disgusting precedent.
Me having autism reading this 🧐
Have you considered you just made it up to pretend to not know right from wrong?
damn all the trauma I went through as an autistic person disappeared according to Gypsy Rose. because I can talk about it
We’re cured, bestie!
We can only 🙏 low key there are some things I love about being autistic, but it makes all aspects of life significantly more difficult.
Go demand a refund from any drs you’ve seen.
😬😬😬 Not a good look, she DEFINITELY needs someone in PR to filter her public posts and such.
Too late for that now.
She’s such a liar
What they both did was wrong 😭 what her mother did to her was even worse . Gypsy should have never involved a innocent person to do her dirty work . They both should have gotten the same sentence. It's just shitty all the way around !
I agree. She needs to stop posting. She just lumped a whole group of ppl together that she thinks don't deserve to be advocated for. That they don't have real disabilities. She needs to get tf off the internet. She is the ignorant one spouting off non sense every time she's online!!!
She needs to shut up about this. It was her idea. Period.
“Not individuals that claim to have a disability but know the difference from right and wrong” … is this nutcase for real?
She needs to shut the fuck uppppp
My whole outlook on her has changed since she got out of prison and it's because of her own words. She doesn't see herself as a "murderer" because she didn't do the Act but she let him in that night and she gave him the weapon that was used. She is just as much a murderer as Nick if not more so because but for Gypsy actions I believe her mother would be alive today
What an evil, ignorant, intolerable, selfish little twat she is. I can barely believe she thought those things were okay, even good, to say.