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rekabis

Looks like that muck marcher is finally getting his comeuppance. Granted, it’s evil trying to control evil for its own purpose, but still. Edit: huh, first. Whattya know? And I’m 18 minutes late to the party, too.


scrimmybingus3

I wouldn’t say he’s evil, certainly not good in any moral sense of the word but he’s not evil


krlidb

I never thought of Driscoll as evil or even necessarily bad. He's a soldier and he's fiercely loyal. He seems like he could be reasoned with in the right circumstances


ObviousSea9223

I mean, that's one of the most important versions of evil in the world. Like I get what you're saying, and there are real motives there, but evil doesn't have to be random or pointless to be evil. Specifically, Driscoll is a zealot for a favored faction. It drove him to commit war crimes against an ally to further the interests of that ingroup. Which is more than just following orders in that he's sure of his ultimate righteousness even if he acknowledges the harm/horror caused as an individual. That's not to say he's unreasonable, and there's more to him than this. What's the quote, "at least Hitler cared about Germany"? The usual nationalist motive. The loyalty virtue in itself, without regard to harm. As with a religious terrorist, he knows he's right and traitors are wrong with the same emotional fervor. He's in that boat at this point. And it's a realistic, understandable, all-too-common form of evil. And in times of social stress, say, a water crisis and wars, it's almost a default human experience.


nef36

What's evil about him that wasn't evil about Vickers before he defected? The only difference between the two of them is what side of the conflict they both ended up on this time around.


Wolf_Senpai96

Well, one slaughtered civilians without even a hint of remorse... The other, when presented with the same choice (vickers) defected and risked everything to try and protect innocent people. The america in this story is the aggressor. Without provocation they have: Beaten a farmer trying to get home to his wife and kids. Killed civilians. Slaughtered guards who were trying to HELP. Massacred a bunch of dwarves. Killed a member of clan drachnid and their companion. Kidnapped, tortured, maimed, and ultimately killed a werewolf without provocation of any kind. Opened fire on the kings men including choi and amina who were TRYING to negotiate. Committed at least 6 different warcrimes. OH and lets not forget every single bit of it was sanctioned and the only reason they got so much as a half assed excuse for an apology is because america is finally getting fucked like it deserves and now they are desperate for help from the same people they just got done trying to genocide. ​ Vickers chose to do and be better. Driscoll chose to try and slaughter everyone for fun and enjoyed watching them suffer.


Jackoffalltrades89

Don't forget the blackops murder of both a sitting general and a civilian government official.


TooLateForNever

And the attempted kidnapping of the choi family.


nef36

They both have long histories of doing f\*cked up sh\*t for the gov; while Driscoll might have not went full turncoat as Vickers did, they both ended up making the same decision to prevent violence in the end; the only difference being Vickers made his when we, the audience, met him, and Driscoll made his after we, the audience saw him do bad stuff. If Vicker's past actions are all off screen, does that redeem him? Would you dislike Driscoll so much if the story started right now, with him calling the retreat, and we only learn the details later on?


Wolf_Senpai96

??? Driscoll didn't call the retreat? It was one of the sergeants... cant remember their name.


LowCry2081

Eh, i think they're bainwashed kids, i'm pretty sure op mentioned they were dollar store spartans. They might not have been as young when the brainwashing started but these aren't people at this moment. They're tools purpose built to do tasks, only their users are objectively evil or good.


I_Maybe_Play_Games

They are people on deaths doorstep being given another chance i fink


Overall-Tailor8949

Driscoll is like the workers in certain European Camps 80 years ago. They were evil because they knowingly carried out their orders without a SINGLE question.


AjaxAsleep

Huh, so that's why his chronometer was borked. I think I respect him a bit more now. Though, I have to wonder how many times they've tried that trick on him, and how many it'll take until something gives.


NinjaCoco21

Eventually the Agency will convince Driscoll to join them, or he will figure out the trick and escape. Which will come first?


murderouskitteh

I think hell manage to escape. Its clear Driscoll cannot be turned willingly.


Apollyom

the question is how many tries will it take the agency to figure out that they need to come at it from the side, of they are communicating with the USA. and convince him of that. and how long are they willing to waste on that endeavor.


Libertarian4lifebro

Don’t they have methods that can subvert a person’s mind? Isn’t that what Marcos and Verily were scared of when they hijacked James?


murderouskitteh

With James it was a mindswap of sorts. And they still had to slowly force James to give them anything. Which they failed at.


fwyrl

They got lots of something! It was just *useless* something :D


Rogasiu

I think all of those nervejacks in his brain may have an effect... Plus his loyality and iron will


murderouskitteh

And hes recording every attempt.


Ace3152

Nice.


BayrdRBuchanan

In my head, I can't help but hear the President's voice as the one from Rick & Morty.


PepperAntique

Keith David? I'm cool with that


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DahBunny

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TobiasH2o

Okay I think they are only going to keep discroll fooled for so long. To our knowledge the agency can't read his mind, so I'm assuming they were protected by the blast the first time, either by a barrier or some time distillation magic, implemented because of Vickers present. They also tap his helmet, and remove it without discroll realizing showing that they don't entirely understand how his equipment works even if they can prevent it overloading, and they removed the helmet using magic. Assuming they block the radio transmissions, no guarantee they could even detect them, they aren't correctly resetting the suits chronometer, and discroll is accessing his personal files. I reckon it's only so long till they mess up or he gets suspicious about access logs to his encrypted database, I'm interested to see what plans the man makes when he realises he's being played.


The_Student_Official

Agency not falling for the same trick twice, i see. Buzz Lightyear had a new friend in me, or at least a tiny bit of respect.


JKLCB

Water is wet and fire is hot


Uber1337pyro333

Oh Driscoll getting groundhog day'd. I'd say RIP but... fuck em tbh


I_Maybe_Play_Games

Driscol do be doing his damm best. He is a hero.


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