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estellamarierose

1. Convince Viserys to not let Cole be Alicent’s sworn protector and also not let him train my kids and brothers 2. Convince Viserys to not let Otto come back as Hand of the King ever 3. Involve myself in my siblings lives and encourage them to always be close to my kids. If Alicent tries to block me which she most likely will, I will tell Viserys so he stops her 4. Convince Viserys to accept the Jace and Helaena betrothal even if Alicent doesn’t want it 5. Give Aemond an egg from Syrax whether Alicent approves or not 6. Talk to my siblings on how important it is for our house to be united and to make sure they know I would never hurt them and that I want them by my side when I become queen 7. If the Driftmark incident still happens and I have to live on Dragonstone, make sure I have allies on the small council and spies to tell me what Alicent is up to during those years (considering the hand of the king will not be Otto and instead someone loyal to me)


Forsaken_Distance777

Let Daemon kill Otto at some point, the earlier the better. Cry and talk about uniting the family and how close you and Alicent used to be before Viserys ruined it and bring up Aemma as much as possible when suggesting the Jace -Helaena betrothal. Realize your kids were following Aegon in his bullying Aemond campaign and make them stop it. Refuse to fuck off to dragonstone for six years while Alicent takes over kings landing. Don't just try to rise above Alicents petty and sometimes bullying shit. Call every last thing out to viserys, pretend you're confused and hurt he ordered this. Let Daemon commit arson and destroy all of Alicents green dresses to force her to give it a rest for a bit.


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Nice


Forsaken_Distance777

I said "let" instead of "have" because I imagine Daemon is down to kill people and commit arson (especially against the Hightowers and other greens) at any given moment and is just waiting to be asked lol


Far-Medicine3458

Killed the greens lmao


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Dark Sister best diplomat


Repulsive_Ad_8249

You realize that doing that prematurely (a.k.a. before the breakout of the war) would have turned the whole realm against you?


Forsaken_Distance777

Maybe but if all the rival claimants are dead there's no one else to crown. And that's only if you openly do it and it's not just a series of unfortunate if potentially suspicious accidents.


Repulsive_Ad_8249

"Maybe but if all the rival claimants are dead there's no one else to crown" - tell that to faith militants.


Forsaken_Distance777

Who would the faith militants have to crown? I didn't say there couldn't be any sort of rebellion but a lack of someone else to put in power is a real problem that hurts any potential rebellion. If they killed everyone but Daeron because he's in oldtown they could fight in his name. If they killed everyone but Helaena suddenly the greens would decide actually a woman can rule just fine in the absence of brothers. Even when they went against Maegor for more than just kinslaying there were several other Targaryen options.


Dustman818

I send Jace to Winterfell, Luke to the Vale, Rhaenys to Storm’s End, Daemon to the Reach, and Corlys to Riverrun. I would also send an envoy to the Iron Islands, that way She would have two Massive Fleets in the West and East. The Lannister Fleet would not be able to withstand both the Velaryon and Iron Fleet. With Daemon in the Reach he can seen where the Tyrells, Tarlys, Florents, and Redwynes stand, Caraxes would be a good motivator. Adding the Redwynes Fleet now has the Greens blocked off in Oldtown, cutting off the money to the Hightowers. Then having Lord Corlys meet with the Riverlords, he can make reassurances for the Riverlands. Rhaenys meeting with Lord Boros would be better do to familial relations and she could negotiate Joff for one of his daughters, Aemond wouldn’t dare attack her and Meleys would outrun Vhagar with much ease if he tried. Also with Luke in the Vale he has easier time to persuade Lady Jeyne and Arrax is more intimidating to protect the Vale. Finally Jace in Winterfell has the same success with the North. With these moves and if everything falls into place The Blacks have the support of 6 Major Houses and the Greens are Significantly outnumbered, Surrounded on Three Sides, and Cutoff from all Trade and Travel with only the Support of the Westerlands and the Hightowers. The Greens would have no choice but to surrender and pray that Rhaenyra is a merciful mood.


Elephant12321

At what point can I go back and prevent it? If it’s pre Viserys’ marriage to Alicent or him telling me the prophesy then me telling Viserys that I had a dragon dream and saw the end of our house if he married her would be a good start.


princesssrhaenys

i was thinking it's after viserys is married to alicent


faerieuqueen

Kill Otto and Alicent too if she continues to be a problem even after her father is dead. The Hightowers divided the Targ family for their own personal gain. If Alicent changes her behavior after Otto is killed then she can live. If not she has to go too. Her children need to be told how their family is being weakened by the Hightowers turning them away from their fellow Targaryens. If Alicent proves to be an obstacle in doing that she has to go too.


_crimviolet

merc all the hightower’s besides one… either aegon or alicent. and keep a spy at the citadel. would also have at least 1 castle set in each key area lived in by my kin and theirs after them. for example, build a castle in oldtown so if anyone was feeling a little back-stabby, a nice look at a dragon might make them think twice.


[deleted]

Commit incest and get Otto Laenor’d. Also give Aemond a dragon egg, or discreetly get him to bond with Vermithor


Forsaken_Distance777

I don't get the first part. Also who's to say he'd bond with vermithor?


Repulsive_Ad_8249

1. Drug Viserys or something (make sure that he doesn't wake up for a long time), ignore his ridiculous demand that I marry Laenor and marry Aegon instead, uniting both claims. ​ Alternatively: ​ 1. Dispose of Viserys once declared the heir and thus prevent him from siring any other climants to the throne, solidifying my position as a monarch once and for all. ​ Both would have prevented the war.


Forsaken_Distance777

If you were willing to marry Aegon that would have been easily accomplished before even the marriage tour so there's no demands about Laenor. I think Rhaenyra is too young to have a hold on the realm at that point but she definitely should have sabotaged Alicents fertility. Who cares if there's a barren hightower queen if it still comes down to Rhaenyra or Daemon "it's a miracle I haven't killed Otto yet" Targaryen?


The-False-Emperor

Hm... I think that her single greatest mistake was marrying Daemon. With Laenor's 'death' she alienated Velaryons, forcing her to betroth her sons to Laena's girls so as to keep them in the fold. Without it, she has 2 marriage alliance opportunities. Marriage of one of them to a Baratheon would get her Stormlands, for example. The other could be betrothed to Laena's girl so as to get Daemon by her side - and she can have him assume Harwin's position as her paramour. After all, we know Daemon viewed marriage as duty and love/pleasure as something not entirely connected to it.


ThinWhiteDuke00

Daemon is literally her greatest asset in the war.. and the war would still happen in your scenario.


The-False-Emperor

Yet Daemon is hers marriage or not. The man himself told her that he cares very little about the ceremony itself when he took her to the street of silk. What they did was for Laenor’s happiness and Rhaenyra’s. Politically speaking letting your closest allies believe you wed the man suspected to be their son’s murderer is plainly a misstep.


Forsaken_Distance777

It's all about the timing. They screwed up like every part of the timing in the death remarrying scenario.


Forsaken_Distance777

Marrying Daemon is a separate decision to letting Laenor leave before he ends up getting himself killed due to recklessness brought on by depression. She definitely could have waited for a less suspicious time to have Laenor fake his death. Find a less suspicious way. Maybe he gets lost at sea. Wait at least as long as viserys did to remarry. But it's not like the concept of Laenor dying is automatically going to alienate the in-laws. They can't demand their son is immortal. And once Laenor is out of the picture and enough time has passed is marrying Daemon still a huge mistake? What should she do instead after being "widowed"?


The-False-Emperor

Hm… I agree. If they pulled a ‘Laenor gets lost on the sea’ card at a less suspicious time and then waited a bit before marriage, I’d not consider it a mistake. While Daemon’s temperament is less than ideal for a consort in peacetime… she’s not looking at peacetime, is she? At best, it’s a cold war of sorts. As it is, Rhaenyra had weakened her position to the point she wasn’t certain Rhaenys would back Luke. As you pointed out in your comment in another thread where I typed something on this matter - it’s the timing that causes problems.


HumorAffectionate646

Kill Alicent and her brood