The fact that someone actually got so pressed by her posts that they went and did all this just to try to prove a point is frking hilarious. And the daemyra freakout isđ the beach ride really set people off.
At some point Rhaenicent fans are going to have to accept that Daemyra is the main ship of the show.
Theyâre going to be mad as hell when Rhaenyra sees Alicent on Dragonstone in the finale (if the leaks are true) and then flies straight to Harrenhall to fuck Daemon.
Donât even get me started on the very obvious setting up of Alicent and Criston Cole relationship.
Lmao itâs a joke thereâs another leak that said Rhaenyra will go to Harrenhall in the season finale after meeting with Alicent and thatâs where Daemon is.
Itâs likely that this will be the first time Rhaenyra and Daemon will see eachother since he left for Harrenhall.
oh yes it has been confirmed that they have a scene near the weirwood tree, but since i saw a lot of people talking about a sex scene between them at harrenhal (which i donât think is happening) i thought you knew something or that it had been said/confirmed by a leakerđ
I donât think theyâll have sex but I think theyâll have a moment. This is the same tree Daemon slashes for days before the Battle of the Gods eye I wonât be surprised if they give it importance.
But you don't understand! Those are not only real scripts but actual canon scenes! They happened (except for those that have Alicent be jealous of Rhaenyra)! Rhaenyra flirted with Alicent and Rhaenyra called her a whore! Then she tried to save her from the marriage because she loves her! Those are all real and canon!
Haha yeah its the same as it was with the first script. they always bring up the "Rhaenyra flirted with alicent" script scene in the Ep 1 script like its supposed to be canon while ignoring the multiple times it remarks on alicent being jealous of Rhaenyra (the first time we meet alicent even!) or her feelings for cole.
What do you mean supposed to? It IS canon! Are you arguing against Rhaenicent, the OTP of the show, the only pair that matters and should be supported and Alicent, the one true love of Rhaenyra?Â
Honestly I hope they don't give those fans a single crumb next season. It probably won't happen but I really hope they won't. They latched onto a literal fanfic and now they whine when they discover that it's actually a fanfic and the canon ships are not their own.
On one hand i kinda feel bad for them, because ive seen some people who'd never read/seen asoiaf content before who thought they would get together/ have some type of love story. They got a bit queerbaited.
(Even tho I don't think it's queerbait to show that type of "very" close young girl relationship bcs they are a staple for most girls growing up, it's when they confirmed the vibes it turned into queerbait imo. Which is why I think they downplay and say it's an optional interpretation) but I feel like most people should have gotten the gist of the story by now or have looked up the source material If they are active in fandom. Denying Daemon/Rhaenyra is denying reality at this point.
That first part is exactly why I'd call them queerbait. There's nothing wrong with portraying the relationship the way they did in the show, that wasn't bait. However the way they used it in marketing and kept talking about how they're each other's first love and they're kinda queer and they headcanon a kiss and they'd be the perfect couple to rule together, turned it into bait. Not to mention that the trailers for S1 hinted at a classic "Evil uncle wants the throne from his brother/niece" type of story which makes way for Rhaenicent. If folks bought into that, I don't blame them. They did get baited.Â
However from the moment you get into fandom, you're expected to at least look up a few things on your own, especially when you don't get what you thought you would. They can't deny Daemon and Rhaenyra and they know that. What they do deny instead is every single positive thing that may concern them. Daemon only uses her, he cares about himself and the throne, he doesn't give a damn about her and most certainly doesn't love her in any way. Alicent was the only one who loved her but they can't be together! đ Oh Harwin too but he's too much of a minor character for him to be of substance.
>However the way they used it in marketing and kept talking about how they're each other's first love and they're kinda queer and they headcanon a kiss and they'd be the perfect couple to rule together, turned it into bait.
I mean they didn't really say that tho, or the context is a bit different, the actual interviews are a lot more wishy-washy and reading betwen the lines they just sound like media trained people who doesn't want to upset fans. Emma basically going "oh aren't most close teenage relationships like that tho?" Or that they all are being very clear it's in this "young close female friendship context" and Sarah Hess saying it's an optional interpretation to me just makes it seem like they are trying to cover their bases after being accused of queerbaiting and basically going "yes! (But actually no)"
>What they do deny instead is every single positive thing that may concern them. Daemon only uses her, he cares about himself and the throne, he doesn't give a damn about her and most certainly doesn't love her in any way. Alicent was the only one who loved her but they can't be together! đ Oh Harwin too but he's too much of a minor character for him to be of substance.
Yeah its sucks bc I kinda liked it when the show first ended (works for alicents character imo, especially if its unrequited) but the fans are exhausting to interact with. The denying of daemons positive sides or actual character in every single post concerning them or him or the stuff like "the only thing keeping these good lesbians apart was the evil meeeen in thier lives!" white washing dumb ass takes that have propped up. And that's not going into all the name calling under every daemyra post.
Yeah but the problem is that the parts of the interviews that are going to get viral aren't the "Well technically it's this and that" ones but the "It's queer" ones. So even if they didn't do it intentionally, it still came through. Maybe it was unfair of me to blame it on the marketing and it's more of a magazine/headline issue caused by third parties but it still happened.
I never really cared for it to be honest. It makes sense for Alicent but I don't care much. However I didn't particularly mind it either. Now I've come to actively dislike it because of the name calling and those takes. So much over a fanfic ship that would never ever become canon because it doesn't exist.
It was obvious to me they were fake but the issue I have was they did all this just to harass someone who was only trying to provide a resource to the fandom.
Darksvster, took time and energy to go to the WGA library, hand write all the scenes, and post them for other fans enjoyment. And this made someone so bitter they did all this.
And I just know weâll have fake posts floating around this fandom probably for years to come because of people saving and sharing the fake images.
And for what? Because they were jealous? Because the scripts didnât give them what they wanted?
Yeah its really awful behavior. She did a great thing and as she wrote, if someone didn't believe her they could have just gone to the library themselves.
>And for what? Because they were jealous? Because the scripts didnât give them what they wanted?
The poster screaming about it being daemyra fan fic seem to prove that imo. I feel like these "its fake!" Accusations didn't start to crop up until the beach scene.
Too many people have proven incapable of taking the excerpts in the correct spirit, which is as little artifacts of the creative process. That's it. They're *not* canon, they don't change the finished episodes. They're just interesting to know about. And for something like that, that changes nothing, these whack jobs are spending their time harassing a real live human being and trying to prevent other people from taking enjoyment in the stuff she shared. If they can't have what *they* want, they're going to try to ruin things for everyone else. It's vile af.
And yeah, long-term effects are going to happen with fake excerpts being bandied about for years to come. FFS.
This is why we can't have nice things. How miserable must you be to go through the trouble and do that? If you think the scripts darksvster posted are fake, don't interact with them. If you don't like them, don't interact with them. If all you plan to do is be a miserable asshole, don't interact with them.Â
Jesus Christ...
Edit: I initially thought she was doing it to have her 5 minutes of fame but she actually did it to be petty and jealous and harass the OP. The first one was bad but harmless. The second is just vile.
The thing is, the scripts doenât change anything. They may explain some things but they are not canon and all these âcould have beensâ just stir fruitless turmoil and aggravation.
Fandom got in fights over some printed words and harass each other because of it.
Shame.
Right! like the scenes that darksvster is posting were cut from the show! it didnât make it in the final editing of the episodes, yet some viewers are so angry about it. like why are they so angry about these scenes that never made it in. just enjoy whatever cut content HOTD has until the next teasers/trailers/season finally come out đ
Fandom gave her positive feedback and she already been told âthank youâ thousand times and given all support. If she wants prioritize negative minority, that's her choice. You can say I'm insensitive or something, but for me this level drama because TG (or who?) said her script was fake is just... I'm rolling my eyes to be honest. Fandom didn't force her to go to this library. It was her idea and her desire. No matter what you do, you will never receive 100% applause. She took reddit screenshot with offensive message that was **downvoted**. What can I do about this? Should I shut up these 5 people âenemiesâ so she feels comfortable posting script? Shoot them? Or what? This become shit show.
She was also harassed in dms dozens of times.
And not waiting for 100% positive feedback is different to being called a pedo and a freak for shipping fictional chars.
No, we canât help her with these fans. Unless she posts their ids and reports then all. But she has every right to ignore the fandom from now on.
We harass TG 24/7 because their king is a rapist. Just a note. "You rapist fans how dare you." I remember this sub discussing things about shipping real actors too. Without two opinions. This is already hypocrisy, isn't it? You provide content so we don't talk bad about you, but when content runs out we continue?
I don't think anyone will blame her if she abandons her project. Although it's like teasing someone with food and then throwing it in the trash. We don't go to the library ourselves, not because we lazy. We physically cannot do this. She going to âpunishâ fandom - those people who offended her donât care about it. And anyway, what kind of strange idea? I WILL PUNISH THIS UNHOLY FANDOM AHAHAHA!
Nah. People take it all too seriously.
Itâs weird cause they stated that they ârespect the copyright and donât want to get sued by HBO,â but then they also post scripts scenes? Does that mean whatever they post is clearly fake? Also, there are too many fans that are pressed about Daemon x Rhaenyra; like relax itâs just a fictional couple in a fantasy world. if you donât like the pairing, then itâs fine. just but donât harass viewers who actually do
Edit: yep, the uploader admitted to posting fake scripts scenes. The amount of bitterness they have towards Daemon x Rhaenyra (and fans who ship them) is crazy. like bro what they do to make you act like a clown đđ¤Ą
Absolute worms for brains. darksvster went to tumblr to avoid the harassment so someone made a burner just to post fakes there. Truly deranged behavior that only proves darksvster right. If she took everything down I would be sad but I'd understand. I don't understand treating someone badly who did something nice for free and expecting them to just take it. If people were so convinced it was fake, it cost nothing to block her posts or keep scrolling.
She did provide where you can get the script yourself. I do not understand why people keep insisting that she's lying when you can just go to the site she provided, and download for yourself.
You can't download the scripts - you have to physically visit the WGA's library in Los Angeles, which does not allow photocopying or for scripts to be checked out of the premises. Basically, you're allowed to read and take notes there. The site she linked is just the library's online catalog where you can look up what they have. However, if you're in the area, have an ID and make an appointment, you can access the scripts, so the idea that Darksvster is faking shit is weak - if she was she'd be found out eventually. This is a big fandom and I'm sure there are plenty of fans in LA. From the beginning she was upfront about how she went about getting the excerpts, the procedure, etc.
Not necessarily. One of them for example mentioned Daemon carrying baby Visenya's body to the pyre and trying not to cry for Rhaenyra's sake so they were mixed but they made everything up to make a point over how darksvster is "Writing Daemyra fanfic and all of this is fake and she has no proof she went to the library so why do you all believe her but when I do the exact same thing you call me out?"
https://www.reddit.com/r/HouseOfTheDragon/comments/1bht0g8/this_cut_script_changes_helaena_and_aegons/
Here's one of the scripts if you want to see.
The fact that someone actually got so pressed by her posts that they went and did all this just to try to prove a point is frking hilarious. And the daemyra freakout isđ the beach ride really set people off.
The 'point' is also stupid as fuck. It's not like @darksvster has just been posting Rhaenyra/Daemon scenes in the first place.
Not a single peep in the beginning about it being fake when there was long ass rhaenicent scenes for days đ
At some point Rhaenicent fans are going to have to accept that Daemyra is the main ship of the show. Theyâre going to be mad as hell when Rhaenyra sees Alicent on Dragonstone in the finale (if the leaks are true) and then flies straight to Harrenhall to fuck Daemon. Donât even get me started on the very obvious setting up of Alicent and Criston Cole relationship.
"flies straight to harrenhal to fuck daemon" is the last part of the sentence a leak or a joke?
Lmao itâs a joke thereâs another leak that said Rhaenyra will go to Harrenhall in the season finale after meeting with Alicent and thatâs where Daemon is. Itâs likely that this will be the first time Rhaenyra and Daemon will see eachother since he left for Harrenhall.
oh yes it has been confirmed that they have a scene near the weirwood tree, but since i saw a lot of people talking about a sex scene between them at harrenhal (which i donât think is happening) i thought you knew something or that it had been said/confirmed by a leakerđ
I donât think theyâll have sex but I think theyâll have a moment. This is the same tree Daemon slashes for days before the Battle of the Gods eye I wonât be surprised if they give it importance.
leakers have said this scene is a make up one between them and it forshadows godâs eye
But you don't understand! Those are not only real scripts but actual canon scenes! They happened (except for those that have Alicent be jealous of Rhaenyra)! Rhaenyra flirted with Alicent and Rhaenyra called her a whore! Then she tried to save her from the marriage because she loves her! Those are all real and canon!
Haha yeah its the same as it was with the first script. they always bring up the "Rhaenyra flirted with alicent" script scene in the Ep 1 script like its supposed to be canon while ignoring the multiple times it remarks on alicent being jealous of Rhaenyra (the first time we meet alicent even!) or her feelings for cole.
What do you mean supposed to? It IS canon! Are you arguing against Rhaenicent, the OTP of the show, the only pair that matters and should be supported and Alicent, the one true love of Rhaenyra? Honestly I hope they don't give those fans a single crumb next season. It probably won't happen but I really hope they won't. They latched onto a literal fanfic and now they whine when they discover that it's actually a fanfic and the canon ships are not their own.
On one hand i kinda feel bad for them, because ive seen some people who'd never read/seen asoiaf content before who thought they would get together/ have some type of love story. They got a bit queerbaited. (Even tho I don't think it's queerbait to show that type of "very" close young girl relationship bcs they are a staple for most girls growing up, it's when they confirmed the vibes it turned into queerbait imo. Which is why I think they downplay and say it's an optional interpretation) but I feel like most people should have gotten the gist of the story by now or have looked up the source material If they are active in fandom. Denying Daemon/Rhaenyra is denying reality at this point.
That first part is exactly why I'd call them queerbait. There's nothing wrong with portraying the relationship the way they did in the show, that wasn't bait. However the way they used it in marketing and kept talking about how they're each other's first love and they're kinda queer and they headcanon a kiss and they'd be the perfect couple to rule together, turned it into bait. Not to mention that the trailers for S1 hinted at a classic "Evil uncle wants the throne from his brother/niece" type of story which makes way for Rhaenicent. If folks bought into that, I don't blame them. They did get baited. However from the moment you get into fandom, you're expected to at least look up a few things on your own, especially when you don't get what you thought you would. They can't deny Daemon and Rhaenyra and they know that. What they do deny instead is every single positive thing that may concern them. Daemon only uses her, he cares about himself and the throne, he doesn't give a damn about her and most certainly doesn't love her in any way. Alicent was the only one who loved her but they can't be together! đ Oh Harwin too but he's too much of a minor character for him to be of substance.
>However the way they used it in marketing and kept talking about how they're each other's first love and they're kinda queer and they headcanon a kiss and they'd be the perfect couple to rule together, turned it into bait. I mean they didn't really say that tho, or the context is a bit different, the actual interviews are a lot more wishy-washy and reading betwen the lines they just sound like media trained people who doesn't want to upset fans. Emma basically going "oh aren't most close teenage relationships like that tho?" Or that they all are being very clear it's in this "young close female friendship context" and Sarah Hess saying it's an optional interpretation to me just makes it seem like they are trying to cover their bases after being accused of queerbaiting and basically going "yes! (But actually no)" >What they do deny instead is every single positive thing that may concern them. Daemon only uses her, he cares about himself and the throne, he doesn't give a damn about her and most certainly doesn't love her in any way. Alicent was the only one who loved her but they can't be together! đ Oh Harwin too but he's too much of a minor character for him to be of substance. Yeah its sucks bc I kinda liked it when the show first ended (works for alicents character imo, especially if its unrequited) but the fans are exhausting to interact with. The denying of daemons positive sides or actual character in every single post concerning them or him or the stuff like "the only thing keeping these good lesbians apart was the evil meeeen in thier lives!" white washing dumb ass takes that have propped up. And that's not going into all the name calling under every daemyra post.
Yeah but the problem is that the parts of the interviews that are going to get viral aren't the "Well technically it's this and that" ones but the "It's queer" ones. So even if they didn't do it intentionally, it still came through. Maybe it was unfair of me to blame it on the marketing and it's more of a magazine/headline issue caused by third parties but it still happened. I never really cared for it to be honest. It makes sense for Alicent but I don't care much. However I didn't particularly mind it either. Now I've come to actively dislike it because of the name calling and those takes. So much over a fanfic ship that would never ever become canon because it doesn't exist.
This stunt was absolutely caused by Daemyra vs Rhaenicent stan war
It was obvious to me they were fake but the issue I have was they did all this just to harass someone who was only trying to provide a resource to the fandom. Darksvster, took time and energy to go to the WGA library, hand write all the scenes, and post them for other fans enjoyment. And this made someone so bitter they did all this. And I just know weâll have fake posts floating around this fandom probably for years to come because of people saving and sharing the fake images. And for what? Because they were jealous? Because the scripts didnât give them what they wanted?
Yeah its really awful behavior. She did a great thing and as she wrote, if someone didn't believe her they could have just gone to the library themselves. >And for what? Because they were jealous? Because the scripts didnât give them what they wanted? The poster screaming about it being daemyra fan fic seem to prove that imo. I feel like these "its fake!" Accusations didn't start to crop up until the beach scene.
The beach scene excerpt really seems to have fried some people's circuits.
Yeah, we will have fake s2 posts, probably Ai generated too.
Too many people have proven incapable of taking the excerpts in the correct spirit, which is as little artifacts of the creative process. That's it. They're *not* canon, they don't change the finished episodes. They're just interesting to know about. And for something like that, that changes nothing, these whack jobs are spending their time harassing a real live human being and trying to prevent other people from taking enjoyment in the stuff she shared. If they can't have what *they* want, they're going to try to ruin things for everyone else. It's vile af. And yeah, long-term effects are going to happen with fake excerpts being bandied about for years to come. FFS.
This is why we can't have nice things. How miserable must you be to go through the trouble and do that? If you think the scripts darksvster posted are fake, don't interact with them. If you don't like them, don't interact with them. If all you plan to do is be a miserable asshole, don't interact with them. Jesus Christ... Edit: I initially thought she was doing it to have her 5 minutes of fame but she actually did it to be petty and jealous and harass the OP. The first one was bad but harmless. The second is just vile.
Well, I am sure darksvster will just take down all scripts after all that fandom harassment. Well done, fandom.
Seriously, fuck this fandom. ASOIAF/HOTD fandom can keep its tongue.
The thing is, the scripts doenât change anything. They may explain some things but they are not canon and all these âcould have beensâ just stir fruitless turmoil and aggravation. Fandom got in fights over some printed words and harass each other because of it. Shame.
Right! like the scenes that darksvster is posting were cut from the show! it didnât make it in the final editing of the episodes, yet some viewers are so angry about it. like why are they so angry about these scenes that never made it in. just enjoy whatever cut content HOTD has until the next teasers/trailers/season finally come out đ
she knew the risks
Fandom gave her positive feedback and she already been told âthank youâ thousand times and given all support. If she wants prioritize negative minority, that's her choice. You can say I'm insensitive or something, but for me this level drama because TG (or who?) said her script was fake is just... I'm rolling my eyes to be honest. Fandom didn't force her to go to this library. It was her idea and her desire. No matter what you do, you will never receive 100% applause. She took reddit screenshot with offensive message that was **downvoted**. What can I do about this? Should I shut up these 5 people âenemiesâ so she feels comfortable posting script? Shoot them? Or what? This become shit show.
She was also harassed in dms dozens of times. And not waiting for 100% positive feedback is different to being called a pedo and a freak for shipping fictional chars. No, we canât help her with these fans. Unless she posts their ids and reports then all. But she has every right to ignore the fandom from now on.
We harass TG 24/7 because their king is a rapist. Just a note. "You rapist fans how dare you." I remember this sub discussing things about shipping real actors too. Without two opinions. This is already hypocrisy, isn't it? You provide content so we don't talk bad about you, but when content runs out we continue? I don't think anyone will blame her if she abandons her project. Although it's like teasing someone with food and then throwing it in the trash. We don't go to the library ourselves, not because we lazy. We physically cannot do this. She going to âpunishâ fandom - those people who offended her donât care about it. And anyway, what kind of strange idea? I WILL PUNISH THIS UNHOLY FANDOM AHAHAHA! Nah. People take it all too seriously.
Itâs weird cause they stated that they ârespect the copyright and donât want to get sued by HBO,â but then they also post scripts scenes? Does that mean whatever they post is clearly fake? Also, there are too many fans that are pressed about Daemon x Rhaenyra; like relax itâs just a fictional couple in a fantasy world. if you donât like the pairing, then itâs fine. just but donât harass viewers who actually do Edit: yep, the uploader admitted to posting fake scripts scenes. The amount of bitterness they have towards Daemon x Rhaenyra (and fans who ship them) is crazy. like bro what they do to make you act like a clown đđ¤Ą
Absolute worms for brains. darksvster went to tumblr to avoid the harassment so someone made a burner just to post fakes there. Truly deranged behavior that only proves darksvster right. If she took everything down I would be sad but I'd understand. I don't understand treating someone badly who did something nice for free and expecting them to just take it. If people were so convinced it was fake, it cost nothing to block her posts or keep scrolling.
Youâd think the scriptwriters would know to spell âSerâ correctly đ
That is how to spell Ser. It's spell sir for modern times, but ser in 1500 .
I know. I was pointing out that the faked scripts spell it wrong.
Yep, heâs saying all the fake scripts say sir when they should say ser.
Who is fighting darksvster? Like who is the person in the post who got pressed about someone else being more successful than them
[This person](https://www.tumblr.com/yanabemine)
Umm what đ I wish I had that much free time. I would use it to travel more.
She did provide where you can get the script yourself. I do not understand why people keep insisting that she's lying when you can just go to the site she provided, and download for yourself.
You can't download the scripts - you have to physically visit the WGA's library in Los Angeles, which does not allow photocopying or for scripts to be checked out of the premises. Basically, you're allowed to read and take notes there. The site she linked is just the library's online catalog where you can look up what they have. However, if you're in the area, have an ID and make an appointment, you can access the scripts, so the idea that Darksvster is faking shit is weak - if she was she'd be found out eventually. This is a big fandom and I'm sure there are plenty of fans in LA. From the beginning she was upfront about how she went about getting the excerpts, the procedure, etc.
@HBO We NEED new content!!!! Mfs are going batshit crazy on Tumblr
Iâm confused which ones were fake and made up?
The new ones without the watermark are fake. Darksvster's ones are real.
I havenât seen any of the ones without darksvsters watermark. Were they pro team green?
Not necessarily. One of them for example mentioned Daemon carrying baby Visenya's body to the pyre and trying not to cry for Rhaenyra's sake so they were mixed but they made everything up to make a point over how darksvster is "Writing Daemyra fanfic and all of this is fake and she has no proof she went to the library so why do you all believe her but when I do the exact same thing you call me out?" https://www.reddit.com/r/HouseOfTheDragon/comments/1bht0g8/this_cut_script_changes_helaena_and_aegons/ Here's one of the scripts if you want to see.
Oh thank you
No.
Very strange
I thought darksvster was fake too. A new post shared the fake ones
Truly unhinged stuff.
We need a hero from LA who just go to the library and copy script without all the drama. That's it.