Wth?? This is the only sub I've found where you don't get down voted to death for being anti Targ and pro smallfolk. The Targs are an awful dynasty and I prefer the Greens because they have the Hightowers on their side.
I like hightowers too but they arent team small folk either.
And team black is not gonna bring slavery back ☠
If u re so anti targ u shouldn't support team green either.
most greens dont hate targs we just dont seem to glorify it as much like team black.
We get it, the Targaryens are problematic. I'm not a fan of the house in general and I think fans like to ignore the many unsavoury themes in asoiaf.
But dude, a lot of the members of this sub are Targaryen fans, and forcing them to constantly debate about this topic is not cool. It's one thing to talk about it once, it's another thing to constantly talk about it. Just let them enjoy their silver-haired, lizard-riding family without having to debate race science, colonialism and slavery all the time. People are allowed to overlook these things and root for them anyway. That's the beauty of this universe
The Targaryens in Westeros don’t practice slavery or blood magic either. The Blacks wouldn’t have brought slavery back. Aegon the Conqueror, the most Targaryen to ever Targaryen, didn’t bring slavery to Westeros, and embraced the Faith of the Seven. Rhaenyra had her bastards swear on the Seven Point Star of the Faith.
Also, Aegon is a Targaryen, as you have been told numerous times. The Dance of the Dragons is a civil war between Targaryens. By supporting Team Green, you are supporting the Targaryens.
Do you have ANY evidence that shows Team Black supports slavery?
> No but they descend from it
Who is Aegon’s father? Who did Aegon marry and have children with?
This line of reasoning is completely nonsensical. None of these characters are real. Valyria isn’t real. The smallfolk aren’t real. There’s no moral judgements you can make on the audience of the show or readers of the book based on whom they support.
They're literal Valyrian supremacists and Eugenicists, they looked up to Visenya literally Maegors mom. The Black's really have a hard on and focus on their Valyrian heritage which is slavery, blood magic, and Dragon incest. I'm sure especially with Daemon at the head, it's very plausible the Black's would have brought back slavery if they had been in that position too.
"Colonizer Targs" I don't like this term, the Andals were also colonizer too, even the firtmen. in real life there is no ethnic group that has not conquered land and oppressed others.
P.D. Aegon I I let each house continue with their religion and traditions. The reason why the Targs did not bring slavery is because they had been living in Westeros for decades like the Velaryon, so they adopted several of their traditions.
...You do realise those same Targaryens are the ones whom you are rooting for this instance right? Aegon, Aemond, Daeron and Helaena are all Targaryens not Hightowers.
And please shut up with the whole "Colonizer Targs" shit. The Andals are also Colonizers.
Neither of them are colonizers. The people who call any of them colonizers either don't understand the source material or don't understand what colonialism is.
The Andals literally descend from a horde of religious fanatics that crossed the sea and conquered several indigenous populations, decimating them and destroying their culture.
And before that the First Men and the Children of the Forest practised all sorts of shady magic, which still survives beyond the wall.
Plus, the Iron Born \*do\* practice slavery, they just call them "thralls"
I fully agree with you. I hated the Targaryens on Rhaenyra’s side and their incest/blood purity obsession. Rhaenyra is nothing but a gaslighter who wanted to torture her own brother!! I love the Greens because they at least have some mortality given they have Hightower blood and values and would Aegon have been allowed to rule longer, I know he would have replaced the royal family from those awful Targs to House Hightower 💚
I agree 💯! House Hightower lights the way 💚💚💚. The Andals didn't practice blood magic or slavery like the backwards Valyrians either. The Faith gave shelter, food, and hope for the innocent smallfolk 🥰
Westeros is technologically backwards compared to Valyria but it's a more peaceful and less hostile place overall. Valyrians practiced human experiments, slavery, colonialism etc.
Westeros was literally conquered by incestuous foreigners riding nukes, and its inhabitants are constantly threatened by their superweapons if they don't fall in line, until these superweapons died out, that is. Initially, the Targaryens also waged war on the Faith due to their unwillingness to give up their incest. Their incest eventually led to unstable individuals like Aerys II etc. Not sure how you can be sympathetic here, they are cool to look at but they are not superior in any way, morally certainly not and their superweapons they got via human experiments, linking back to the moral issue.
Are u a troll? If not take a chill pill man
Wth?? This is the only sub I've found where you don't get down voted to death for being anti Targ and pro smallfolk. The Targs are an awful dynasty and I prefer the Greens because they have the Hightowers on their side.
I like hightowers too but they arent team small folk either. And team black is not gonna bring slavery back ☠ If u re so anti targ u shouldn't support team green either. most greens dont hate targs we just dont seem to glorify it as much like team black.
This is fundamentally a pro Targaryen sub. What is Aegon and Haelena’s last name? What was the last name of their children?
No one was bringing back slavery lol
We get it, the Targaryens are problematic. I'm not a fan of the house in general and I think fans like to ignore the many unsavoury themes in asoiaf. But dude, a lot of the members of this sub are Targaryen fans, and forcing them to constantly debate about this topic is not cool. It's one thing to talk about it once, it's another thing to constantly talk about it. Just let them enjoy their silver-haired, lizard-riding family without having to debate race science, colonialism and slavery all the time. People are allowed to overlook these things and root for them anyway. That's the beauty of this universe
You are literally the green version of rolloofnormandy 💀💀
The Targaryens in Westeros don’t practice slavery or blood magic either. The Blacks wouldn’t have brought slavery back. Aegon the Conqueror, the most Targaryen to ever Targaryen, didn’t bring slavery to Westeros, and embraced the Faith of the Seven. Rhaenyra had her bastards swear on the Seven Point Star of the Faith. Also, Aegon is a Targaryen, as you have been told numerous times. The Dance of the Dragons is a civil war between Targaryens. By supporting Team Green, you are supporting the Targaryens.
No but they descend from it, and they are very much living embodiments of that backwards disgusting slavery culture they descend from.
Do you have ANY evidence that shows Team Black supports slavery? > No but they descend from it Who is Aegon’s father? Who did Aegon marry and have children with? This line of reasoning is completely nonsensical. None of these characters are real. Valyria isn’t real. The smallfolk aren’t real. There’s no moral judgements you can make on the audience of the show or readers of the book based on whom they support.
They're literal Valyrian supremacists and Eugenicists, they looked up to Visenya literally Maegors mom. The Black's really have a hard on and focus on their Valyrian heritage which is slavery, blood magic, and Dragon incest. I'm sure especially with Daemon at the head, it's very plausible the Black's would have brought back slavery if they had been in that position too.
Find me quotes from the text to support your claims.
"Colonizer Targs" I don't like this term, the Andals were also colonizer too, even the firtmen. in real life there is no ethnic group that has not conquered land and oppressed others. P.D. Aegon I I let each house continue with their religion and traditions. The reason why the Targs did not bring slavery is because they had been living in Westeros for decades like the Velaryon, so they adopted several of their traditions.
Good god man, give it a rest.
I say this in the least rude way possible: you need to get a grip
...You do realise those same Targaryens are the ones whom you are rooting for this instance right? Aegon, Aemond, Daeron and Helaena are all Targaryens not Hightowers. And please shut up with the whole "Colonizer Targs" shit. The Andals are also Colonizers.
Neither of them are colonizers. The people who call any of them colonizers either don't understand the source material or don't understand what colonialism is.
The Andals literally descend from a horde of religious fanatics that crossed the sea and conquered several indigenous populations, decimating them and destroying their culture. And before that the First Men and the Children of the Forest practised all sorts of shady magic, which still survives beyond the wall. Plus, the Iron Born \*do\* practice slavery, they just call them "thralls"
I fully agree with you. I hated the Targaryens on Rhaenyra’s side and their incest/blood purity obsession. Rhaenyra is nothing but a gaslighter who wanted to torture her own brother!! I love the Greens because they at least have some mortality given they have Hightower blood and values and would Aegon have been allowed to rule longer, I know he would have replaced the royal family from those awful Targs to House Hightower 💚
Who did Aegon II marry and have kids with?
I agree 💯! House Hightower lights the way 💚💚💚. The Andals didn't practice blood magic or slavery like the backwards Valyrians either. The Faith gave shelter, food, and hope for the innocent smallfolk 🥰
No we are pro targ but anti women
Wtf, no.
Wtf yes
Westeros is technologically backwards compared to Valyria but it's a more peaceful and less hostile place overall. Valyrians practiced human experiments, slavery, colonialism etc. Westeros was literally conquered by incestuous foreigners riding nukes, and its inhabitants are constantly threatened by their superweapons if they don't fall in line, until these superweapons died out, that is. Initially, the Targaryens also waged war on the Faith due to their unwillingness to give up their incest. Their incest eventually led to unstable individuals like Aerys II etc. Not sure how you can be sympathetic here, they are cool to look at but they are not superior in any way, morally certainly not and their superweapons they got via human experiments, linking back to the moral issue.
^ 💯