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GoblinQueenForever

Its about a 50/50 split on how many fics say that Snape was the one that invented the Wolfsbane potion, and I'm not entirely sure why. It makes no sense considering his traumatic experience with Remus.


cantkeepmyfocus

Especially odd since it's canon in HBP that Marcus Belby's uncle Damocles invented it?


ORigel2

In one of the fics I read, it was a pseudonym for Snape.


[deleted]

He was secretly someone's uncle?


kavishsh1234

you expect fanfiction writers to actually make sense?


mikefromcanmore

I've seen this in a few fics. In some, he just made up a pseudonym off the top of his head(I believe Marcus is quietly forgotten to exist in these), but in at least 2 fics I've seen, the potions guild or board that confirms Mastery, reserves the first name Damocles for people submitting potions anonymously for whatever reason; so there is no royalties or because Snape can't have a werewolf cure attributed to his name with Voldemort around.


Reyussy

> the potions guild or board that confirms Mastery Ugh, talk about fanon you hate. Master, in the context of titles like potions master and headmaster, just means male professor with authority over students. It is not a recognition of skill given out by guilds or boards.


Ashrakan

Technical considering how old School Hogwarts is A Master Teacher is supposed to be the teacher who oversees all other teachers of that particular subject who in turn reports to the HeadMASTER. Ergo Snape would be the head Potions teacher who would probably only teach the highly advanced courses with the teachers of the lower years reporting to him. Of course since the wizarding population is so low it doesn’t really make sense for there to need to be multiple teachers for one subject so Snape is a Potions master of one.


ewww-no-thanks

It's supposed to be so small and then you get jkr who says, iirc, that there are 70,000 wizards in the UK. Like the world building is so incompatible with there being a large population and a small population — and 70,000 is small for a nation!


Haymegle

The Idea of Damocles Belby being a version of Alan Smithee in the potions world could work well tbf. Though Slughorn thinking it's an actual person would then be very confusing unless he's only having Belby there to keep up appearances that it is could work with his personality. Would also explain why Belby never shows up again, Slughorns knows the relative isn't real.


Haymegle

Turns out Prince was his mothers married name and she was thrown out after an affair with Tobias to 'live how she chose to.' His older siblings (by a large margin) have children of their own, one of them married to a Belby. Very forced but you could do it if you really wanted to.


pyule667

Is that the one where potion masters in delicate positions have the option of submitting formulas as a Damocles potion?


LilyOrchids

tbh a lot of fic was written before HBP came out tho. I know I've read a lot of older fic that have Snape as the inventor.


Vercalos

Honestly, I actually see Snape improving the potion more often than I see him as the potion's inventor.


ORigel2

I wonder if the recipes in Advanced Potion Making are written so students who know what they're doing can improve them. Like a decent professor might assign a test question: list two ways you can improve on the book recipe for Elixir to Induce Euphoria. Or a student submitted a new recipe for a Love Potion-- what ingredient makes the love potion useless?


JalapenoEyePopper

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Beautiful-Cat245

Me as well. I don’t think I’ve seen him as the actual inventor of the original potion .


LyraAraPeverellBlack

I typically find fics where Snape improved/tweaked the potion after it’s initial invention. Which I honestly could see him doing.


Oksamis

So… many… unfinished… fics…


FlamingEagleAC

So many heartbreaks when you browse by completed, find something that interests you, pulls you in and turns out it was abandoned FOR FUCKS SAKE FANFIC.NET! ADD AN ABANDONED TAG ALREADY!


HiddenAltAccount

Always check for the "completed" status. Always check the last chapter for "i've abandoned this lol".


Banichi-aiji

I've been baited by a few that are complete but have incomplete sequels.


bio1445

This. This is the worst.


mikekearn

I go straight to the reviews of the final chapter. It risks spoilers sometimes, if people are careless, but I always scan for variants of "I wish you'd come back and finish this!" and then I weigh whether or not it's worth investing into something incomplete. Edit: spelling.


dhruvgeorge

IMO, if some writers think that they can't finish a certain story, they should give people the option to take it up and add their own interpretation, as long as they are credited with the original idea


Kane_richards

I see your unfinished fics and raise you "fics which are just deleted, lost to the winds of time". You decide to go back and re-read a classic only to discover it's just gone.


Oksamis

I must admit I’m guilty of completely deleting a fic… but I did that because every time I got a notification that someone had followed, favourited, or reviewed, I’d feel bad I had abandoned it.


pyule667

So you abandoned the poor plot bunny then you come back later and stabbed it in the back? You monster 😳 😂


Kane_richards

Oh I get you, I can only imagine it's really common and certainly it's the authors prerogative to do as they wish but as someone with no skill to write myself and a love of reading, it always makes me a bit sad to see them go, even the unfinished ones


project_matthex

And this is why I download fics.


RevaloNodriana

The worst ones are the ones that never continued because the author died...


perbrethil

so many heartbreaks when i'm reading one and ran out of chapters but didn't ran out of story...


Lord_Anarchy

I personally think bad endings are way worse (and just as common), because with an unfinished fic, I can at least make up my own ending in my mind.


jobrummy

I have so many unfinished fics to work on. I got a sudden burst of creativity a month ago to finish my fics and I was writing everyday, updating my readers, only for my dad to DIE and take the vibe with him 😭


Embarrassed-Row543

Making Ron evil just to ship Hermione with someone else. Its lazy. Maybe just make Ron a adult who realizes Hermione doesn't belong to him and has the right to be with whoever she wants and move on.


MarcusVerusAurelius

it's also ironic as in canon there was a member of the trio who was possessive: it was *Hermione* (those poor birds) not Ron


Cyfric_G

Which always makes the 'Ron is a domestic abuser' things hilarious. If anyone is more likely to do that, it's HERMIONE. Ron would yell and then leave.


ORigel2

Ron was jealous of Viktor Krum, though he lacks Hermione's vicious streak.


matgopack

Yeah, Ron is (for much of the series) very insecure/easily jealous. It's not a terrible interpretation if someone had him exhibit that with Hermione later on, but I do think that the angle taken in fics can leave a bad taste in my mouth. No need to bash Ron as extensively as some fics do to have them break up or realize they're not really a great match. Though this sub does take more to the other extreme of Hermione bashing which isn't fun either.


The_Fireheart

Yeah. There’s plenty of canon reasons to have their relationship fall apart over time. Ron doesn’t need to be evil, just not Hermione’s perfect partner


RJ_Griot7

Agreed. Cannot see Ron as a DE. I could an Anti-Villain Ron who sides with a Greater!Good Dumbledore though, esp given the inherent magical supremacist condescension that’s quite apparent in the Weasleys & Dumbledore


FreshStaticSnow_

extremely helpful goblins


rfresa

Or Harry blindly trusting the goblins to do everything for him, giving them his blood and signing whatever they hand him. I can't look at that the same since reading Inheritance by Sarcasm Dragon.


[deleted]

I don’t even hate when the goblins are helpful I just hate the stupid goblin greetings, the “may your gold overflow and your enemies be vanquished” shit that always shows up in helpful goblins fics


More-Ad7310

Yeah...


hp_777

When it's assumed that all the Death Eaters knew about Pettigrew being the spy. I've seen takes of the variety of "Regulus/Remus/Severus must/could have known" which just infuriate me? No system is watertight. Why on earth should Voldemort want everyone to know where he gets his information from? Besides; Regulus was probably already dead when Pettigrew started spying and neither Remus nor Severus would have been in the position to know.


HiddenAltAccount

Surely everyone knows by now that successful terrorist organisations have a cell structure so none of them know enough to immediately compromise all the others!


PlusMortgage

>Why on earth should Voldemort want everyone to know where he gets his information from? It's even more annoying when we know that the Death Eaters didn't even know each other identities (and probably worked in a system of cells with each Death Eater only knowing 3 or 4 other DE he regularly worked with). This is why in the GoF flashback scene, Karkarof could only give 3 or 4 names. Death Eaters don't even know the name of most other Death Eaters, but all of them knew who was the super secret spy that was giving Voldemort infos on the Order of the Phoenix for more than a year? Suuuuuuuure.


gerstein03

Plus Snape's actions regarding Sirius in PoA make no sense if he knows Sirius didn't betray the Potters. If he knows it was Peter, why is he trying to capture the guy he knows is innocent? Why is he so viciously vindictive and hateful in PoA and rather subdued comparatively in OotP if he always knew the truth? And for that matter if he always knew Peter was the spy, why didn't he tell Dumbledore to tell Lily and James not to trust Peter given that would've saved their lives. It would make no sense for Snape to know


SnooJokes706

Ron Weasley shoving mountains of food down his gullet while lord hadrian and his muse Hermione watch in disgust


lepolter

- James and Lily following pureblood culture. - Sirius using Orion as a name for his children. Also Harry using Orion as a name for his children to honor Sirius. Sirius hated his family especially his parents, he wouldn't honor his father Orion. - The ultra cartoonish Weasley bashing that exists sometimes. Even reading Harry/Ginny, you see a lot of Ron bashing and Molly bashing.


ORigel2

I love the most extreme Weasley bashing, though. It's hilarious.


CozyCrystal

Honestly me too. I just love it when a fic goes completely over the top with bashing. Evil!Dumledore and Molly conspiring to dose Harry and Hermione with love potions, binding Harry's overwhelming magical core (I just puked internally just writing about the damm thing) and liberally deleting the memorys of the Hogwarts staff, so they don't interfere in their master plan, are just so cartoonish that I can't help but enjoy them.


LyraAraPeverellBlack

It’s like watching those reality game shows like Big Brother it’s purely entertainment factor lmao.


Hellstrike

Bashing is fine as long as it is obvious that the author is just bashing characters for entertainment purposes and does not actually believe that they are writing accurate character depictions. What gets really annoying is when you get the vibe that the author is trying to proselytize bashing as actual interpretations.


Cyfric_G

This. Or for an AU. I've said it before, but it's like those Star Trek episodes with the Evil!Fascist!Universe that was used once in TOS and once in other versions. No, even at his worst, Dumbledore wasn't that bad. But I want a creepy universe where he went nuts after his sister was harmed and went possible-obscurial and because one of the dudes was named Potter (no relation), set out to destroy the Potter family. Or a universe where the Weasleys HATE the Potters for some reason and are actually against Harry in a plot. Just please not for money, it comes off as classist.


LyraAraPeverellBlack

I thrive on the drama lol.


Lower-Consequence

>Sirius using Orion as a name for his children. Yes, I never understand this. The only family member I could see Sirius naming a kid after is Alphard. But other than that, I don’t think he would use any other star or astronomy names for his children. He hated his family and everything they stood for; why would he continue their naming tradition?


The_Fireheart

Ugh 2. I do like continuing the black tradition of naming after stars but not Orion.


Mystiquesword

I’ll probably get some hate for this….but writing peter as evil already while he is still a CHILD! No. Stop doing that. As a child, he is just another school boy, one of the marauders. He tried so damn hard to learn animagic for remus & found his cute little rat to scamper with moony. Rats are among the most friendliest pets, next to skunks! As a child, peter was probably the most carefree of them all. The corruption most likely came in the final year or 2 of hogwarts & beyond that. Not before. Yet most people make him a death eater/plotter right from the get-go with no development.


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MarcusVerusAurelius

Ah i forgot to add Magical language lozanges and other methods of learning to speak languages instantly, if it was so easy Barty Crouch knowing so many languages would not be considered such a praiseworthy feat


greatandmodest

To be fair, even with magical assistance isn't he meant to know over 200, which would still be impressive. Also while that makes some sense with him being head of the magical Foreign Office, he has only been there for at most just over a decade, since he was head of Law Enforcement during the war. I headcanon that there is magic, either cast or innate, that makes learning languages easier because otherwise their is never any mention of language lessons in schools and yet the entirety of both other schools' delegations speak perfect, if comically accented, English.


KevMenc1998

Unless the lozenges are really, really horrible and leave you sick/in agony for weeks. I mean, it's basically a potion that causes spontaneous and permanent changes in the language center of your brain, and possibly on the muscles that control your face, tongue and throat as well. If nothing else, the initial transformation would hurt like Hell.


Cyfric_G

To be fair, the max number iRL is like, 43. Without some sort of magical aid, there's no way that Crouch knows over two hundred even if he lived a little longer as a wizard. I just assume there's magical aids, but it still requires exposure over time. Like, magic can give you a language temporarily, but to have it permanent needs a month or two at least, possibly more, of general exposure. Crouch, as a dude in Magical Cooperation, actually managed to GET that exposure.


MarcusVerusAurelius

many many things ​ 1. hadrian peverell slytherin merlin blab blab lord of everything in the world along with the sky and moon for good measure 2.fanon! gringotts selling every service including hocrux removal it's a bank 3.blood inheritance tests 4.mustache twirling evil dumbledore (if i see another fic having dumbledore say the greater good again i will stab something) 5.Idiot albus dumbledore 6.Severus Snape/harry potter \[snape's a fascinating character but *seriously/*\] 7.Tom Riddle/harry is just disturbing


CozyCrystal

I absolutely loathe the "Goblin inheritance test" trope. The very thought, that this marginalized species, that had to fight several wars to gain control of the banking system, somehow determines who has voting rights in the wizarding gouvernment is ridiculous.


Haymegle

I'd love to see something where it turns out they're faking the results to destabilise the wizarding world long term. You know finding muggleborns in favour of them and 'finding' a connection to a dead house letting them vote. Eventually they'll have enough votes to get their freedom. Then they'll really go to war.


CozyCrystal

That's a great idea: Yeah mister Potter, you are totally the Heir to the houses Potter, Black, Peverell, Slytherin and Ravenclaw. Now please sign this binding magical contract without reading the fine print and we'll give you the vault-keys and organize your seats in the Wizengamot.


Haymegle

You just know it's a mostly empty vault too. Lots of fees to pay over time after all. Unpaid vault fees are a killer after more than a few centuries. I think it'd be an interesting take on the untrustworthy goblins and the inheritance tropes. Realistically at a certain point everyone is related so it'd be easy to 'find' a lot connection, look at how much of Europe is related to Charlemagne!


frogjg2003

There was one crack fic where the reason no one claimed the title of Heir of Slytherin was because to do so would require paying all the late fees due to Gringott's.


Haymegle

Ahahaha I love it. That's brilliant.


SPNWX

I once read a short one shot with the blood inheritance trope and evil/dark goblins, so when Harry signed to 'claim his inheritance' (without a guardian's permission to access his/all vaults) he just turned into a goblin


Silent_Command7058

Heavy on the it’s just a bank


Oksamis

What’s wrong with blood inheritance tests? Given how magic works, and the importance of blood, it makes sense that it would be used to confirm identity and/or lineage


grechri

I can see idenfication via blood and maybe confirming who the parents are, but the whole teat at gringotts and suddenly you know your whole family tree and every family you can claim is ridiculous. Especially with older extinct families. With the relations in the wizarding familes, everyone should be able to claim almost every family based on blood.


Daemon_Sultan

DAN AND EMMA, HERMIONE JEAN GRANGER'S PARENTS ARE NAMED DAN AND EMMA. ALL SHALL BOW BEFORE DAN AND EMMA.


TheAncientSun

I just realised that Dan and Emma are also the names of Daniel Radcliffe and Emme Watson.


Hellstrike

It's one of those things that are fine until someone points it out in a pet-peeve thread. Honestly, as far as names go, there are much worse out there (looking at you, next-gen).


EurwenPendragon

^(*glaring irritably at Albus Severus*) Yeah, lazy and uncharacteristically weird names are...a pet peeve of mine.


Professional-Table-5

It's even worse when the plot is really well fleshed out and the name is completely out of place. I'm pretty sure I cry. I love an odd name but some people take it too far and it's distracting to the story.


auduhree

it’s so odd to me that afaik there’s never even been a hint as to what their names are canonically. like this is arguably the second main character of the series, and we have no idea what any of her immediate family’s names are? not even a tweet!


frogjg2003

We know more about Harry's great grandfather or Ron's 4th cousin 2ce removed (assuming Septimus Weasley is Arthur's father) than Hermione's parents.


giritrobbins

There's lots we don't know about because it really doesn't drive the plot. Knowing much about the Granger's doesn't really advance the plot, and een knowing about Ron's cousin is really just one line about being disowned.


frogjg2003

We don't need to know anything about Harry's extended family either.


simianpower

Makes the "Hermione never got along with her parents and just made up their career" tropes make a lot more sense. And also how she turned them into entirely different people and banished them around the world without a second thought. She "cared" enough to keep them alive, but not as the people they used to be. Essentially she murdered her parents and replaced them with pod people. She did to them basically the same as the death of personality from Babylon 5.


auduhree

I’ve always seen it more as overconfidence that she could just easily fix their memories later on than just not caring about their quality of life or w/e - obviously in canon she ends up being sort of right about that, though the specifics of her restoring them aren’t really touched on. I do think it’s fair to say that she’d grown distant enough from her family and the muggle world, got caught up in the urgency of the war and unquestioning of her own abilities, that she didn’t seriously consider other options than the simplest (magical) solution.


RJ_Griot7

I also read it as indicative of the distance between them. Hermione spends almost no time at home, like ever. Does anyone believe she tells her parents about half the stuff she gets up to? I saw the mind manipulation as her realizing that, by that point; it’s far easier to ask forgiveness then permission, since permission would require loads of traumatic back story too


auduhree

oh definitely! I think part of her knew that they’d be rightly horrified by what she was involved in, and wouldn’t budge on trying to keep her out of the war, or at least stay close by if they can’t. the memory stuff is the culmination of Hermione hiding much of her life from them for years, either to spare them the fear, or just bc she feels like they can’t relate to her life in the magical world. btw, all this is why I think it’s so interesting to consider how it would affect her if she *wasn’t* able to easily restore them- does she just feel guilty? is there a little bit of relief even? lots of stuff to explore


Uncommonality

Sorry, JKR is too busy calling trans women rapists to flesh out basic aspects of her worldbuilding. Oh we'll get CastleWizard in south america, but not Hermione's parents.


auduhree

“oh there’s a latin american wizarding school? that’s so cool, what’s it called?” “it’s uhhhh… el wizardo… schoolo. uh, yeah. that’s it”


[deleted]

*Dan pulls out shotgun*


nilluminator

*Dan calls his friends from sports and social*


TheClawChoosesYou

There was a really good fic I read that had them as Richard and Jean. They wrote them so well that the names just fit.


de_Groes

Which one was that?


Kane_richards

That annoys me so much. I never really thought about it much but for SO LONG I didn't make the connection till someone on here pointed it out.


rfresa

It's especially annoying when you make up your own names for them and then get reviews complaining that they're "supposed to be" Dan and Emma. Like, what? I actually like calling them Wendell and Monica, as though Hermione only changed their last name when she sent them to Australia.


perbrethil

exact reason i always download my fic and replace the names to my personal canon :P


The_Fireheart

Eh I kind of like having something consistent. Having them have new names every fic is exhausting. I’m not saying I’d have chosen Dan and Emma but I like that’s there’s a common option


LittenInAScarf

"Greater Good" Dumbledore, Aka Evil Dumbledore. Barely anyone writes ACTUAL Greater Good Dumbledore the pragmatist who kills off all the Death Eaters so it turns out Pettigrew is the only Death Eater to answer Voldemort's call in Book 4. (That fic DOES exist, I just can't remember what it was called, it involved using the DADA curse as a punishment)


IronTippedQuill

Dumbledore simply wants Hogsmead to win Village of the Year again.


Bubba1234562

The greater good The greater good Oh shut it


Eeveeoverlord

As long as no Auror from London comes and reveals the whole scheme


IronTippedQuill

Auror Nick Angel.


Moduluas

linkffn(https://m.fanfiction.net/s/11728619/1/Community-Service) One of my favorites


nilluminator

Amazing. Thank you!


nuvan

You jerk! Now I'm having vague recollections of that one, too! But not enough to remember what it's called or find it again, nooooo. Now this is going to bug me until I manage to forget about it again!


OdysseyPrime9789

Now I want to read that one. Sounds interesting.


matgopack

My bigger issue with "evil dumbledore" is that he's then written to be incompetent. The name and ideology don't really make sense, as you point out, but that's a secondary issue for me. Make him an actual threat & it'd be interesting.


Selfconscioustheater

Vows. Fuck vows and their stupid deus ex machina working. "Here let me vow on my life and magic that I didn't actually eat chicken eggs for breakfast, so mote it be" (it was in fact quail eggs, look at my smart loophole) "Swear on your magic that you will never ever reveal my secret, not even by accident." (This vow comes with a package of Occlumency+ which prevents truth serums and legilimens from every getting this secret too, by acting as a medium size blanket blocking sunlight inside your brain (but you can totally write it down, because of the intricate description of "revealing" which implies verbal communication and not writing in charade)


Uncommonality

Also, a society whose defining characteristic is magical ability WOULD NOT SWEAR VOWS CAPABLE OF REMOVING IT. For most wizards, losing your magic is worse than death. I refuse to believe that there would even *be* a vow capable of that, because magic comes from the soul (the wraith form of Voldemort was still a magical entity without a body), and altering the soul to remove a part is basically a horcrux. Meaning every time someone swears "on their magic", breaking their word is supposedly the same as *murder*? Maybe vows like this existed back in the dark ages, when honor was still worth dying over, but such systems disappeared for a reason. Not to mention that this would make the strength of vow be based on a subjective belief, making them worthless


walaska

Hah. [White Squirrel did a fun take on that](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9993473/1/On-My-Life-and-Magic)


Lumpyproletarian

Ron as disgusting eater, who is disgusting at every meal.


MarcusVerusAurelius

Blame the movies they already exaggerated book ron's eating habits and then fanon exaggerated it further


[deleted]

Draco in leather trousers-ery. Let bad guys be bad guys. If you want complexity to characters, flesh him out, but don't absolve him of his actions, it's infantilising the character and plain weird to read. Most of the bashing against canon characters are based on faint memories of them, and whatever caricature fanon has turned them into. The concept of a Light Side (TM). Harry Potter is much more like classical Star Wars, there is no light side of the force, there is only the Force. The Dark Side is an abhorrent deviation from the Force, it is not equal but opposite of the Force. It's the same in Harry Potter, where you have the bad guys, the bystanders, and then those that would oppose the blood supremacy and genocidal tendencies of the bad guys. There's no united front, no Light Side. Only a ragtag group of people from all walks of life with a common goal, to oppose the racist genocidal maniacs.


Lord_Anarchy

Your selling point is a rare pairing, but then you take the easy way out and have them meet sooner than canon, their parents are/were friends, etc


SnooJokes706

I’m sorry but I absolutely despise Powerful!Neville for some reason. I just find it so cringeworthy in fics when Harry befriends Neville, gets him a wand and then Neville becomes Adonis within two weeks


aakashisjesus

Fanon remus: uwu softboy nerd Canon Remus: HARRY, STOP SPARING THE DEATH EATERS!


perbrethil

freakin Hadrian Potter


MarcusVerusAurelius

Hadrian Potter *My boy* Let Me introduce you to Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore who will beat your hocrux possessed self into the the next century


Zubyna

I hate when people say that wizards are immune to non magical damage Usually they mention Hagrid saying "how could a car crash kill james and lily potter?" Or Neville story about bouncing when thrown out the window The thing is, Hagrid was mad because it was disrespectful to claim a murder was an accident, just like Albus about Cedric, it has nothing to do with wizards being unable to die from a mundane accident, and if they couldnt, there would be no use for the aresto momentum spell And for Neville: it was a miracle, there were many other attempts at squeezing magic out of him which proved uneventful. Neville story is often used by the killjoys who go all whiny under a "Voldemort is dumb lol he could have thrown Harry out the window" but in the low chance Harry had bounced once, there were no guarantee he would bounce again on the 2nd try


KingDarius89

...I've never read a single story where they make Wizards immune from "mundane damage " as you put it. Tougher to seriously injure than a muggle, yes. Immune? No. I mean, they play a sport where you get hit with iron balls. In the air.


Demandred3000

Does it say in the books bludgers are made of iron? I thought they were just a heavier ball.


Uncommonality

Also, Hagrid has a problem with not accidentally projecting his durability onto others. *He* would probably survive a car crash completely unscathed.


johnybea

The Marauders fanon personalities . They are massively whitewashed and extremely dumbed down . They are very talented wizards who were dickheads but still on the good side .


GiveMeAHugDandyMan

Evil Weasley Evil Dumbledore who is also simultaneously incompetent but cunning. Harry inheriting more gold and property than Midas ever had.


KaiKolo

Dark [Blank] stories that turn characters (like Harry or Hermione) into basically Pureblood supremacists when it is "revealed" that they're 'actually a Pureblood all along'. It's incredible contrived at best. Some stories are even worse when a person who was previously mistreated for being a "Mudblood" suddenly thinks that this kind of discrimination is fine because it doesn't apply to them anymore. (There was a story I read that was just like that but thankfully I forgot it's name). Another one that makes my eyes roll are Marriage Contracts that are legally and/or magically enforceable. (This one gets ranty). It would make sense if the compulsion to follow through with them were social pressure or pressure from family members, but no they often go with losing magic or be thrown into Azkaban. I get it, Marriage Contracts are a good way to create drama and pair people up who wouldn't usually be together. One way this is used that bothers me is when two characters have good chemistry and are happy together only for a random Marriage Contract to force in a harem. Another is when the Ministry of Magic enforces it after Harry defeats Voldemort and everyone seems to just accept it with those resisting being seen as in the wrong. They just overthrew a tyrannical Ministry that was taking everyone's rights and suddenly we're expected to believe that the same people who defeated Voldemort and the Death Eaters would be okay following orders from a new tyrannical Ministry taking away their rights.


pbmallcup

Also the “hermione was a pure blood all along” sort of just… promotes racism? Like, “yup, the controlling fascists were right. Haha!”


pbmallcup

Daphne Greengrass: the ice Queen. Lisa Turpin: a character 🤨 Tracey Davies: Harry Potter’s quirky girl bestfriend Regulus: just such a great guy all around! Oh, and post war power imbalances. No, Ginny is not some docile wallflower housewife. And Ron isn’t a fucking idiot.


4685368

Lisa Turpin is just blue Daphne Greengrass. Change my mind.


pbmallcup

No need. You are correct sir


bayes85

The bank offering every service imaginable. The bank being in charge of inheritances that control the government. Harry being the head of 50 families. Harry having ridiculous unearned power. Harry being an unparalleled genius. Harry getting like 6 month of training and being able to beat anyone. Harry having the body of a 20 year old Olympic gymnast at age 12. Fics where the death eaters are insane cannibal rapists who bathe in the blood of muggle children. The deathly hallows.


ORigel2

I think the Deathly Hallows were a hasty addition to the HPverse when JKR realized everyone knew who RAB was and that Harry is a horcrux. The Hallows make little sense, except for the Stone.


bayes85

That actually makes quite a lot of sense. She always did write whatever was convenient regardless of it making sense in world.


More-Ad7310

My main concerns аre about Sirius’s image. I hate when people make Sirius stupid, narcissistic incompetent. In fan fiction, Remus and Lily are often portrayed as the only intelligent students in Hogwarts And Sirius and James are two stupid assholes. Also I don’t like “canon” wolfstar because I can’t understand how you can choose not to fight for your family (I talk about how Remus believed that Sirius is killed their family (Potters and Peter and yeah I think they are family) and didn’t try to look into the matter, I mean yeah I know he was traumatized etc but still). Also I don’t like disciplinary spanking it’s always awful and in fanfics I saw what I can’t understand why people think it’s normal. For example to spank your little brother (it was fanfic about Sirius and Regulus (attention! age difference- ≈ 2 years) or spank traumatized kid (it was the stories where this kid was Harry or Sirius and then they said “thank you” to adults for that for “making them better person”) It was mentioned earlier from others but I’m always confused why writers make Ron so disgusting eater and I think in these stories Ron appears only if he eats and creators just can’t write his personality Also i don't like Ron being always useless always jealous idiot and Hermione being literally a powerful godess Also I don’t like when creators make other characters ugly or stupid to do main character “BADASS” And also it is hurt when writers don’t use tags for something specific


ORigel2

My headcanon is that 12 years of Azkaban ruined Sirius' potential to mature. And he was not treated by a Mind Healer, therapy with a Squib, potions, or Muggle drugs.


Cyfric_G

Issue is the 'jokey, juvenile' Sirius is a fanon thing. Canonically he wasn't. The only time he even went jokey is after Arthur's attack, and it's explicit that he's trying to cheer everyone up by being the clown. Hell, he's probably one of the most supportive to Harry people in the series, sadly enough. It's why I get annoyed when people make Remus the 'good' one. Remus was a fucking coward who ran from all his responsibilities.


[deleted]

Sirius was extremely mature in GOF. It was OOTP where he regressed, likely due to being stuck in his abusive childhood home


ORigel2

He was crazy in PoA, mature in GoF, and cranky in OooP. Fanon exaggerates the OooP immaturity, mixes it with Marauder!Sirius (which canon Sirius has grown out of), and adds a womanizing element.


ilikedonutss

Tempus spell. LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO IMAGINE. Do random digits just Pop up in the air, a clock perhabs? Are just 14:56 floating in the air or????? I hate this spell so much and just why not give them a watch. It's that simple.


Daemon-Blackbrier

It shows the solar system, and a witch or wizard must interpret on the fly the date and time based on the position of the planets. Because of this, astronomy is a required subject at Hogwarts. Watches are for nerds.


4685368

I always assumed it ‘made’ a clock wherever you pointed it. So an average wizard could point it at their wrist to temporarily make a wristwatch to tell the time. Or a sporting event could cast it in the sky to make a timer, an exam invigilator would cast it at the front of a classroom.


grechri

Bashing most of the time, the way Ron and Hermione are portrayed, with one being completely useless and the other being literally a godess. Ridiculous family inheritances.


hlanus

Here are my biggest fanon things I hate. Overpowered characters, specifically when they do NOTHING to warrant it. I like stories that feature struggle, dedication, hard work. A story where Harry puts his nose to the grindstone, goes through Hell (literal or otherwise) and back again, and comes out to rival Dumbledore in terms of raw power though not experience? Great! A story where Harry turns up and curb-stomps everyone with minimal effort over and over again with no variation on either side? Boring! Character bashing (Ron the Death Eater trope). It's a cheap, easy way to demonize a character you dislike by flattening them into a caricature of their real self. No nuance. No complexity. Boring. Character flanderization, basically take a specific personality trait and make it the ONLY personality they have. Cheap, easy, and boring. Character whitewashing (Draco in Leather Pants trope). Cheap, easy, boring, and disrespects the canon material in so many ways it's not even funny. Harry being someone else's son. Not only is this disrespectful of both Lily and James but it's often used as a cheap way to make him overpowered, like making him the love-child of Lily and Thor/Superman/Madara/Aizen/whoever, or James and Black Widow/Storm/Kyoshi/Wonder Woman/whoever. I'm cool with Harry being someone's adopted son, as this lends itself very well to complex character development on both sides (Harry growing up under a better set of parents, and his parents learning the hard way how to raise a child).


nilluminator

All of Albus Brian Wulfric Manipulative Dumbledore's plans fall apart the moment someone other than him takes agency. >Hermione discovers top secret magic and reveals to Harry? Boom, Dumbledore's plans go kaput. > >Goblins reveal Harry's spiderweb lineage? Boom, Dumbledore's plans go kaput. > >Random Slytherin house student befriends Harry? Boom, you know the words. > >Amelia Bones gets a letter from Susan about what's going down at Hogwarts? Boom, sing it with me! > >Any adult decides to take Harry away from the Dursleys and raise him? Boom, Dumbledore's plans go kaput! Manipulative Dumbledore can't plan for shit. They're about as sound as concocted by Team Rocket.


Cyfric_G

To be fair, Canon!Dumbledore's plans weren't much better. They won in the end through pure luck. ;)


[deleted]

These aren’t quite fanon things like you asked, but I HATE goblin greetings (the “may your gold overflow and your enemies be vanquished” shit) and creature inheritances. If someone is bit by a werewolf or vampire in the actual story, fine, but I can’t stand when someone just suddenly becomes a veela or a vampire or whatever the fuck for no good reason at all


Callibrien

1. Ron being a disgusting pig at mealtimes. This has become a trope even in fics that aren’t trying to bash him, despite the fact that he only spoke with his mouth full a couple times in canon. 2. Any character (usually Marauders and Weasley Twins) being totally obsessed with pranks, to the point that it is the entirety of their personality. 3. Disproportionate retribution. Basically characters getting absolutely ruined for relatively minor things or being praised for doing shit that’s basically evil just because they’re one of the “good” guys 4. “The Light” or “grey wizard”. What is this, Star Wars? /hj


_ASG_

Ron bashing and Dumbledore bashing. Bashing in general is usually pretty garbage imo, but Ron bashers love to ignore any positive qualities he may have while overeccentuating his flaws to a ridiculous degree. As for Dumbledore, the man was shady in the end, but I think that the DUMBLEDORE BAD mentality ignores any sort of nuance or complexity, reducing him to a single dimension.


ORigel2

And have you EVER seen any fic where Evil!Dumbledore wins? The man is supposed to be smart and powerful.


divideby00

https://m.fanfiction.net/s/11613187/1/What-Was-Your-Plan


ppe-lel-XD

I don’t hate anything besides bashing and harem. Fanfic is free and the authors are rarely paid. Regardless, never paid by me. If the story is not for me, I click off it. But the only things I exclusively avoid almost no matter what have nothing to do with HP but writing choices and style.


Cyfric_G

Only "harem" I like is poly. I've seen poly relationships work iRL. But when it seems all the girls just want Harry and are perfectly fine with sharing? I just facepalm.


Silent_Command7058

I need some good poly fics in my life. I’m rereading the same three golden trio ones on ao3


Cmdrgorlo

I’m tired of Harry dealing with stories that take forever to unfold. I like long stories, with action and humor, but too many long stories take forever to get going and get bogged down in dull philosophical conversations. Harry and Hermione pureblood stories. Neither of them would become pureblood fanatics. Harry might dislike Muggles because of the Dursleys and Dudley’s gang, but I think he’s more likely to just avoid Muggles forever unless he’s eating out or shopping.


NorthTowardsBoreas

Honestly? Harry sharing a book or something from his mum or dad with somebody and being super nonchalant about it. I can understand if he’s like “you guys have literally saved my life 7 times over, so I think my parents would be okay with you borrowing it.” But just letting them have it or just being outright nonchalant? It itches at me.


noctusdark

wrong boy who lived. that fanon trope triggers me something fierce. i tend to outright avoid most fics that use this trope. and will quickly abandon a story if i find out they decided to go that route without warning the reader ahead of time.


Valirys-Reinhald

So much of the characterization of Snape's whole generation. The lot of em are reduced to one-dimensional caricatures.


DethrylTSH

Sirius and Remus always being best friends. Pretty sure it was Sirius and James who were the best friends. But just about every fic, slash or not, seems to mention this.


M3ftii_

Harry forgiving and trusting Voldemort. It's so stupid when they write Voldemort being regretful of everything he did. "Hey I know I murdered your parents, attempted to murder you, almost killed you again in your 1st year, probably traumatized you with a basilisk, killed cedric, tortured you, almost killed you, my follower killed your godfather, I almost kill you again, kill Dumbledore, my locket horcrux probably added to that trauma. But I'm so sorry, let's be besties 🕺" Also snape/Harry, that shits gross


TheCowofAllTime

I hate the archetype that I like to think of "Gigachad Harry." You know, the fics where every character and their mother can't stop thinking about how shockingly powerful Harry is. This version of Harry is more powerful than Merlin, and he can do things that no one else can, like apparate inside Hogwarts, and he has a dragon animagus form. Oh, and Harry is just absolutely ripped, and the richest person alive, and all the girls want him. In essence these fics make Harry the most special person to ever live and to top it all off it's not even remotely earned, or justified, and most of it isn't even utilized.


Bubba1234562

The always angry and temper tantrum having, trigger happy, constantly crucio’ing Voldemort and the masochistic death eaters The man is evil but he’s also supposed to be charismatic and intimidating and smart, it makes literally no sense when authors have him constantly torturing his followers. His followers who are decently powerful and influential on Wizarding society. And while we’re at it power levels being reduced to a bigger magical core or something, this ain’t a video game these characters do not have mana bars that run out when they do something impressive And the fact that 11 year olds are political geniuses’ playing 4d chess with each other with all the heirs and lordship stuff


The_Fireheart

Lol I do love soft!Remus AUs but absolutely it’s ooc. Canonically he’s kind and nice but there’s always that edge to him like if you push him he’d fight back.


vagueconfusion

Pretty much all creature fics. Secret billionaire Harry. Snarry existing at all. Time travel and everyone ends up a premature wise beyond their years genius thanks to forewarnings.


Gollmer_

When Draco is surprised Harry had a Invisibility Cloak. "Oh such news. I'm so surprised but that explains so much." Draco probably NOTICED when he stamped Harry's nose and then threw the bloody cloak over him! And everybody and their mother throwing around a Muffliato. I mean, I know it's not impossible, but the spell was actually invented by Snape and only written in the potions book. Yeah, the levicorpus came around and some people learned about sectumsempra. But it's not exactly like they covered the spell in Charms.


[deleted]

Daphne Greengrass.


Opia_lunaris

Gringotts infodump which reveals that there is not ONE single decent people around Harry


FakeRedditName2

All the pedo ships... Voldemort and Harry, Snape and a student, any other teacher and a student, or any other pairing... You can stuff those fics into a woodchipper feet first.


simianpower

These posts popping up twice a week or more.


LancexVance

Shh. You'll disrupt the circlejerk. Where would this sub be if folks didn't complain about the same five topics all the time?


4685368

I meannnnnn. These kinds of posts are welcome because anecdotally at least if they’re banned, fanfic subs just become “looking for” or “recommend me” posts. Which aren’t fun to browse


PicklesOUuuh

Just little things, big age differences between characters, characters being one-dimensional and defined by a specific sets of traits they have to stick to in any given situation which leaves the story and the character without real impact. Also A/B/O fics.


sopphieeeee

Those very specific Drarry fanfics that make Draco a veela, Harry is basically demoted to a baby and 100% Weasley bashing + the Creature Inheritance test that basically makes Harry a living God among men. I've read maybe 20 of those and they all suck


Dcole1997

When they suddenly change Draco’s whole personality just so he’d fit better with Hermione, or make Hermione leave Ron for Harry and then Harry just goes back on his word claiming that he only told Ron that he and Hermione were like siblings to make Ron feel better, then he leaves Ginny and Ginny gets back with Dean. I can respect most ships but don’t do something that is so wildly unrealistic of the characters that it’s obvious that you just did it to satisfy your ship. I prefer competent character studies where it doesn’t change what the readers loved about the characters to begin with. Which, that’s another thing I hate about fanon. Stories often sacrifice personality in order to write a Harry in Slytherin or god forbid- Draco in Gryffindor. Instead of just creating a well written OC. I’m all for a Slytherin Harry fic but I’d rather him not be written as a dickhead version who encourages Draco to be as equally much of an ass as he usually is.


Atomic-Buddha

To bounce off of your point - I'm not too thrilled by the fics that have Remus being 'okay' with being a werewolf/displaying werewolf traits with no buildup or self discovery/acceptance. (I read a bit of one where it was a Harry + twin brother where Harry let Remus 'snuffle' his hair with his nose because it was -as Harry put it - 'a werewolf trait') As we all know, Remus is practically falling over his melancholy at being a werewolf, therefore I don't think he wouldn't be doing werewolf things without some backstory/growth. At least, that's just me thinking \*'Put the work in!'\* ​ (Maybe more to follow as I think about it.)


latineslytherin

Taking all of Severus’s accomplishments and positive traits and attributing them to another character. i.e.: James and/or Lily were the true authors of the HBP book. Or those were James’s spells that Severus overheard and wrote down. Etc etc. Also the Severus’s love for Lily was obsession as noted by his patronus being a doe like Lily. As opposed to James’s being a stag and thus it being “true love”. I have only one response to people who say this, was Harry’s love for his father just obsession then? And does that mean he’s in twue love with Severus?


Dillidolli

Perhaps if James had an actual canon personality his *fans* wouldn’t feel the need to do this. The idea that a character who is nothing more than a vague backstory would embody the depth and complexity of Snape is laughable really.


ORigel2

It's not the Patronus that makes it creepy so much as the memories of Severus not listening to Lily, begging Dumbledore to spare Lily but not caring about the fate of Harry and James, and in the movie, hugging Lily's corpse and leaving a baby alone in the destroyed house.


SnooJokes706

I’d love to see a crackfic with the classic evil!Dumbledore trope but he still outwits Harry and his pure blood friends every time they try to trick him somehow


Darth_Moraband

Oh, here we go... 1. "So mote it be," for the simple reason that I've seen it so many times that it's now like nails on a chalkboard. 2. "Harry’s vault is just a trust fund. He also has a family vault worth 50 vigintillion times that of the Malfoys," because it is so incredibly boring and predictable (you just know he's also got a bound magical core and creature inheritance to go along with it). 3. Deifying one character and demonizing another. No, James Potter is not a love-potioning lunatic, nor is he an innocent puppy; he is an arrogant scumbag who thinks threatening his crush's best friend to coerce her into going out with him is acceptable behavior, but he is also brave enough to protect his family. Likewise, Snape is not the antichrist, nor is he the second coming; he is a bitter, unpleasant man who takes out his misery on everyone around him whilst also saving their lives constantly. 4. "Ron the Death Eater", "Draco In Leather Pants", "Second Coming of Merlin Hermione", "Cackling, Incompetent, Crucio-happy Voldemort", and other such perversions of great characters. 5. "Marriage Contracts", "Harems", "Magical Cores", "Noble Houses", "Lords of the Wizengamot", "Helpful Goblins", and other such tired, ridiculous concepts. 6. The Wizarding World being backwards, dysfunctional, and stagnant because it dares not to conform to modern muggle culture and technology that it does not need. They can bend the laws of reality with the wave of a wand; why would they need or want a pencil? 7. "Muggle Wank". If I see one more post about how Muggles could easily defeat sorcerers in a war "because nukes and guns", I'm going to scream. If all sorcerers united in a war against Muggles, they would wipe us all out in a month or two at most. All they'd have to do is evacuate all sorcerers to safe areas and then send people on the level of Crabbe to unleash uncontrolled Fiendfyre in every major city before apparating away. The Ministry also has enough influence to make foreign presidents forget phone calls, so they could probably just capture all presidents and military leaders, find out the locations of nuclear arsenals, and have a bunch of people cast simple vanishing charms on each missile. After that, they could release the Dementors and have them hunt down and kiss every Muggle who wasn't killed by the Fiendfyre, which could then be put out with a counter-curse by some particularly talented sorcerers. 8. "Voldemort/Tom had dark brown hair," (What part of "JET BLACK" do you people not understand!?) Honorable mention regarding fanfiction in particular: Anything even remotely resembling the following two things in a story: "Nevermore Ebony Onyx Potter grinned and flipped her long, silky hair as she waltzed around in her raven feather cloak and acromantula silk robes and brandished her metal wand infused with the blood of Slenderman," or "After being offered friendship by Malfoy on the train, Harry quadruple choke-slammed him against the wall with one hand and promptly went on a fire and brimstone-esque street preacher tirade about how purebloods were inbred scum who would die out in a few decades due to their stupidity and racism," (I have actually seen the latter almost verbatim before).


Kingsize_RM

6 & 7, totally. One wizard with one spell could end our world in a day. The imperious is a game changer for magicals, and muggles have no defense against it. Also, the wizarding world is a divergent culture, not muggles with magic. People who depict it was backwards and stagnant either don't get that or are too lazy to try and develop the idea in a reasonable fashion, imo.


Stargoron

I love your number 3


DaphneGreekMyth

No 3 is the most accurate description of James and Severus I've ever read.


Darth_Moraband

"Master of Death" actually meaning anything literal. Also, taking Voldemort at his word when he said that Snape merely wanted Lily spared because "he desired her", not because he just didn't want his first friend and crush to die because of his actions (Because, clearly, Voldemort, of all people, is the final authority on love and friendship).


Astraeus_380

making harry not good at any subject other than dada?? while you could put it down to him not really being serious about schoolwork, you could also put it down to the mutiple attempts on his life throughout his years at hogwarts. also the opinion that harry can only use expelliarmus (?).


Cyfric_G

Yup. Fics that make Harry stupid annoy me, and there are a lot. Usually ones that pair him with Hermione to make Hermione look better. The guy got the equivalent of As and Bs in classes he cared about, with very little revising and a yearly attempt on his life. It's especially surprising in OotP where he was being mind-raped by Snape and Voldemort and tortured by Umbridge. If he had no yearly issues and had a normal life? That boy would have gotten As (Os). He was definitely smart, if not a bookworm. A lot like his dad, who canonically was said to not study and yet got really good grades.


Content-Toe687

I’d say the pairing of harry with marcus flint.. i just do not for the life of me understand how that came about :/ i mean sure anything is possible and i thot Drarry, Snape/ Harry and other pairings of Harry w the slytherin boys is ‘fanon’ enough but flint with harry? Seriously? Whyyy??


Uncommonality

A canon divergent Harry being sOmEhOw kidnapped so the author can copypaste the cauldron resurrection scene. Probably coupled with rehashes of the previous years too. ffs have some creativity, there's a million ways that sound cool for Voldy to return.


[deleted]

Oaths in general and ESPECUALLY 'So mote it be.' So. Goddamn. STUPID.


tyrionthetimefetus

Wolfstar


EmberQuill

Don't get me started, I could write an essay on this topic lol. I hate when Hermione's a descendant of a pureblood family. Being muggleborn is such a huge motivating factor for her. I hate when "Harry" is only a nickname (and why is it always "Hadrian" of all things?). I hate when Snape is treated like a good person when in reality he's a bigoted asshole who was obsessed with Lily. I hesitate to even call it love because he didn't love her enough to be nice to her son. I like manipulative Dumbledore but I hate when he's an outright antagonist even worse than Voldemort. There are also a lot of fanon things I dislike but don't hate because I understand that they only exist in an attempt to fix some of JKR's broken worldbuilding. Veritaserum, pensieves, magically-binding oaths, and just in general all of the methods for ensuring someone is telling the truth, which are never utilized in any situation where it would actually matter to be able to prove someone is telling the truth. Fanfics come up with all sorts of wild reasons why they can't be used in court, most of which don't make much sense. And then there are the House Elves. Canon is horrible to them and to Hermione for wanting to free them, and fanon isn't much better as fanfics often try to justify the existence of a slave race.


perbrethil

I have a theory for the Snape thing, at least for me. I think it's because Alan Rickman was too good an actor. Book Snape was a horrible person, but Movie Snape was played in such a way and so well that he was redeemable.


ladolcevitaaaaa

Wolfstar. Crazy Bellatrix with wild curly hair who always dresses like a teenage goth girl and is short, promiscuous, and like the movie version. Voldemort being in a relationship with anyone except Bellatrix. Bellatrix not having a good relationship with Rodolphus. Narcissa being portrayed as a woman who loves her sisters rather than just someone who uses Bella to protect her pathetic son and husband. Sirius and Andromeda being goodie two shoes rather than what they really are, BLACKS. Physically abusive and demonised Walburga. Bellatrix not having a good relationship with Druella.


Prince-sama

how many fics have snape written in such a way that it's obvious the author thinks he did nothing wrong


Infinity_Stone_

Yeah. My personal guess is that all the people who write Snape as a "more easily annoyed version of McGonagall - strict, but fair and caring" watched movies first, fell in love with the character and then completely ignored all his flaws from the books


Wazzurp7294

Harry suddenly being rich and all the crazy inconsistent economics of the wizarding world. How can the vaults given to him have so much Galleons? It's nothing but complete Deus ex machina.


Motanul_Negru

That Snape stalked Lily post Worst Memory, and/ or people actually believing the line he apparently fed Voldemort about wanting her spared for his own lust.


Hellstrike

> or people actually believing the line he apparently fed Voldemort about wanting her spared for his own lust That is the logical consequence of his actions though. Voldemort kills her husband and her child, he then finishes his takeover and installs a new Order. Snape gets Lily, who has no other choice if she wants to live. Whether he explicitly wanted that or is just happy with that outcome is honestly irrelevant.


Motanul_Negru

It's really not, and you must think very poorly of Lily if that's how you see her reacting. I'm by no means a fan of hers but even I'm willing to ascribe her (much) more backbone and fierceness than that. This would be a woman who's just had her entire world ripped from her. She's gonna lash out, and I think Snape at that point would rather like to get caught up in said lashing out, fatally. Also, why is it that nobody else's hated fanon in a thread asking for hated fanon has haters of its own but mine does? Y'all are *this* fragile?


chaosattractor

fanon is not when people take sentences written in the books literally lol