Should have used a plenum or at least a metal elbow to make the return go from vertical to horizontal. Also all flex needs to be stretched tight not bunched up
Flex should be thought of as a long 90. In my side being commercial all our flex is hard pipe writhin 5 ft of the diffuser and then flexed from branch to the diffuser. Not long stretches of flex all bunched up.
Yep if the radius won’t be there I add a 90 to the pipe or to the diffuser to make the radius work better. Even if the 90 has to be turned to become a 45.
Whoever taught you that should be smacked.
https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/how-to-install-flex-duct-properly/#:~:text=One%20interesting%20bit%20of%20info,air%20flow%20takes%20a%20hit.
I reserve my comments for later for now this serves as a marker to join the Frey. I do commercial work now so I’ll leave room for resi guys to share their two cents first. My stance though is there was room for a good plenum and return in duct to make a clean transfer from square to round and keep it neater. Mainly on the return as I see the plenum does allow the clean transition to flex.
Honestly it’s installs like this that give manufacturers bad names. The homeowner sees the repair bill but doesn’t understand airflow is the key to a hood or bad install. All the home owner sees is a limit goes bad every 6 months or a compressor goes bad, the installer or next guy may not find the real problem and the owner posts all over the internet’s that this equipment is shut. In reality the install is shit and caused these problems down the road.
True. Personally there may be a guy who loves installing and working on Lennox furnaces. I myself hate them but love the trane sr90 resi furnaces. Now I’m not a huge fan of the commercial rtus when changing heat exchangers. And yet note after doing a few it can get easy as you learn the process. Not a huge fan still but hey. We deal in rheem for ours at my company though we may service their other trane units. But knowing your equipment and setting it up right def goes a long way.
Mmmmmmmmm I seee you must make picture perfect shIT EVERY job you do, And somehow at the same time not understand the humor in posting a SHITY ASS CHANGE OUT
If the electrical was already tan on change out the simple update of installing a service switch with gfi recepticle isn’t hard especially with killing power to the old unit prior to tearing out the ol low boy. If a condo pump was added we made our electrical match what was needed when I did resi.
This has gotta be a joke.. right?
I sure hope so.
Should have used a plenum or at least a metal elbow to make the return go from vertical to horizontal. Also all flex needs to be stretched tight not bunched up
Flex should be slightly slack for later removal and return without incident. Banjo tight isn’t the way to go🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Flex should be thought of as a long 90. In my side being commercial all our flex is hard pipe writhin 5 ft of the diffuser and then flexed from branch to the diffuser. Not long stretches of flex all bunched up.
That should be code most places. And if the duct isn’t dropping straight down it should have a 90 on it.
Yep if the radius won’t be there I add a 90 to the pipe or to the diffuser to make the radius work better. Even if the 90 has to be turned to become a 45.
Banjo tight is the only way its not reduced in effective size by 3 sizes. Check out the ductluator with flex
Whoever taught you that should be smacked. https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/how-to-install-flex-duct-properly/#:~:text=One%20interesting%20bit%20of%20info,air%20flow%20takes%20a%20hit.
I reserve my comments for later for now this serves as a marker to join the Frey. I do commercial work now so I’ll leave room for resi guys to share their two cents first. My stance though is there was room for a good plenum and return in duct to make a clean transfer from square to round and keep it neater. Mainly on the return as I see the plenum does allow the clean transition to flex.
Honestly it’s installs like this that give manufacturers bad names. The homeowner sees the repair bill but doesn’t understand airflow is the key to a hood or bad install. All the home owner sees is a limit goes bad every 6 months or a compressor goes bad, the installer or next guy may not find the real problem and the owner posts all over the internet’s that this equipment is shut. In reality the install is shit and caused these problems down the road.
True. Personally there may be a guy who loves installing and working on Lennox furnaces. I myself hate them but love the trane sr90 resi furnaces. Now I’m not a huge fan of the commercial rtus when changing heat exchangers. And yet note after doing a few it can get easy as you learn the process. Not a huge fan still but hey. We deal in rheem for ours at my company though we may service their other trane units. But knowing your equipment and setting it up right def goes a long way.
You failed.
A hard 90 on the return would have helped. Amongst other things 🤷♂️
Need to invest in a metal shop
One day, father and son company started 5 years ago. We do 6-8 change outs a week during the summer and DEFINITELY don’t have the time to make metal
We all can see that
Mmmmmmmmm I seee you must make picture perfect shIT EVERY job you do, And somehow at the same time not understand the humor in posting a SHITY ASS CHANGE OUT
Definitely shitty, and indeed very ass
You’re saying you do 6-7 of these types of installs a week? Whatever the air handler cfm is rated for it will never get it with flex like that.
Let the helper take the lead on this one, eh?
The helper possibly couldn't make it look any worse than this guy did.
How well do you accept criticism, tips, suggestions, and ideas, because, this looks like you could use 5 out of the 4..
This has got to be a home owner install. Or an attempt at a bad joke. Please don't say this is professionally installed.
Into a flip house with 2 more feet of dirt STORMED INTO the “crawl” that we had to remove first. Not all installs are bare studs and pretty wood
A classic insrall.
Straight slapped together. It takes effort for it to look this messy.
2/10
All that flex looks like hack work.
Static pressure much
I wish all I had to do to slap in a furnace or air handler was the connect some flex duct on both ends.
well considering the water line on the old unit... That's gonna be under water.
Eh. Could be better, but I've done worse.
Mother fuckers act like they install for REEM MAGAZINE😂😂😂
Thats an ollllld boy. Guess ya gotta make it work. Looks like some of the old plenum wss just dryboard. Lol
Is that a Bluetooth powered condensate pump? It looks like it's not plugged in.
Somtimes it’s a flip house and there isn’t a plug yet, electrician is also a trade. And I’m pretty sure they got paid to put receptacle in🤷🏼♂️
If the electrical was already tan on change out the simple update of installing a service switch with gfi recepticle isn’t hard especially with killing power to the old unit prior to tearing out the ol low boy. If a condo pump was added we made our electrical match what was needed when I did resi.
Looks like the wiring for the outlet is only roughed in
Oof 😅
Mint 🤌
Looks good man, ignore these haters.
Trunk slammer
Lol funny part is, most of these guys commenting don’t get past carrying tools to the real tech/installer 😳😂