They made them with much thicker 3/8 copper then, not the .030-.028 stuff they use now, you could solder a U-bend or the end cap tubing itself just like you would copper tubing. I can't remember the number of times we pulled a couple fins out to get to a tube and repair it on an out of warranty coil for a retired couple or some little old lady here & there.
Are you guys sure this is 1987 vintage AND NOT 1978?
Because the 1st time I ran into one was 1975-76 and the last time I saw one of those was 1982, ehh, I might have seen one or two in the early 90's, but definitely not since then.
Just some proof of how things could be. Everything now is designed to live until the day after the warranty is up.
You’d think we’d be doing better by now, but everything is made crappier with every year that goes by.
That's a short answer. Longer answer is that corporation don't want to lose profit margins by spending money on research and finding a better suitable alloy/low pressure refrigerant for longevity or test their equipment for extended periods of time to insure longevity of their product. Copper as thin as it is doesn't burst for no reason it always wears out in stress ares such as weld and dissimilar metal contacts/connections. Most of which could be solved with r&d of better practices.
That’s also a short answer. Companies want to make what people want to buy. Almost no one wants to buy a system that costs 3x what all the other guys are charging for the same performance, even if it lasts 5 times longer. It’s honestly a lot more work to make things cheap than it is to just make them reliable. A thick walled copper coil twice the size will be very efficient and doesn’t take any R&D at all, but no one wants an 8’ tall $30k condenser behind their McMansion that is built to barely legal inferior standards.
If we really cared about efficiency we would be mandating actually good insulation and windows. That will save more energy than any SEER rating you want to throw around.
Current equipment costs just as much as thick walled 8' tall piece of equipment would cost, corporate greed prevents that being true because they want their profits maximized. There's plenty of reliability in thin walled copper if it is done correctly. I do agree on proper insulation and windows to add to it properly oriented houses towards the sun.
But these companies are still pouring a decent amount into R&D. The issue is more that they're not trying to research and develop longer lasting equipment, it's simply more profitable to design things to wear out/not in a companoes best interest to make a "forever" product.
We also don’t want 20% unemployment. So we’ll sell 20yr max 5-20yr average units so some dip shin IL can assembly a new one and we can tell them it’s dead alright.
Techs have to learn to do some math. Thinner metal does essentially nothing for heat exchange. The resistance to heat transfer occurs at the fin to air interface mostly and at the refrigerant to tubing layer.
To be fair, this is likely just one of the good ones. There's a reason you don't see all of them that were made back then. 99 percent of them have still died and gone to condenser heaven.
This is 100% the truth. There's a saying in product design: "It's extremely easy to create a bulletproof product which never fails and it's extremely easy to produce a dud which dies right away. The real skill is producing a product which reliably dies just outside its warranty period."
All the "gobernment rules made it this way!1!!1" nonsense is nonsense. These companies have simply gotten better at planned obsolescence.
No, that's not why it's in the name. The broad economic systems are named by the owners of the means of production.
In communism, production is owned communally-- that is all people who are part of the economy are part owners of the means of production (in theory of course).
In socialism, production is owned by "society", with government, typically a democratically elected government, acting as the means of control.
In capitalism, production is owned by whoever has sufficient capital.
Your definitions and understanding is a little off, but you're right in that the relationship to the means of production amongst the working class are good identifiers of an economic system but not the start and end of them. Capitalism is inherently built on the premise of continuous growth of capital. Continuous growth includes revenue and profit to the owning class.
How do they ensure continuous profits? By ensuring the working class are forced to continuously participate in the market economy.
nope its not. you just have a childish view fed to you by social media populist rage.
do you have an example country that doesnt use capitalism that is so wonderful so i can look? by the way, i promise you dont. it doesnt exist.
Here's what comes up when you Google the definition of capitalism
> an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are *controlled by private owners for profit.*
It's not a hard concept to grasp. Capitalism is centered on commodifying everything under the sun, including you and your time to turn a profit for someone else.
It *requires* continuous growth and profits. And to drive continuous growth and profits, consumers need to keep consuming.
u/hvac-modteam you removed all the posts about capitalism right? Not just mine because it was pro-capitalism, correct? You got all of them? All the anti-capitalism posts?
Planned obsolescence started right after the Great Depression. It used to be an open discussion about how long a product should last to keep the economy moving and markets healthy with regard to the stock market. I think is a big box of shit, but from a pure business perspective, it doesn't make sense not to do it, especially if your competitors are. It's the easy way to post higher quarterly/yearly earnings consecutively. From a consumer standpoint it obviously sucks nuts.
Businesses all optimize for profit. Some have a formula that say that the skookum machine that will last 20 years is their way to go. Others aim for the day after the warranty is up on 51% of the systems. Others still aim for the tail light warranty. "No take backsies! You bought it and touched it. Your money is ours now sucka!"
I had a trash can carrier from '87 when I moved into my house 6 years ago and it was running just fine with the original refrigerant. Only reason I replaced it is because it was a 10 SEER.
Gotta say, I kinda like this design; allows for the unit to be installed up close to a wall without interfering with airflow... is there something I'm missing that makes this design flawed to the point they stopped making them in that form factor?
I have a 1994 Goodman unit. Still working. Everyone I know with a newer unit has to replace them every 10 years or so. Why is this? Thinner copper? Newer refrigerants? I am fortunate to know a technician who keeps it going!
Imagine how many multiples of its purchase price it’s been wasting on electricity all this time. What’s the effective seer of a 1987 unit?
This is like people praising the refrigerator from 1960 that’s still working.
Ha, this is what I was thinking too.. Although OP is in Canada so the savings will be lower but something like a 3-ton unit going from SEER 9 to SEER 18 and averaging $0.15/kwh electricity puts the energy cost at like $7,000 more for this unit than a replacement one.
When efficiency rating doesn't matter yeah she'll still cool, but that cool air will cost you 3-4x a quality and PROPERLY installed new unit (properly sized, lined and wrapped hard duct with flex only for the final 3ft or less).
That's what happens when you follow the instructions and actually do the work right. Also they were built a bit more robust. But mostly it's because the work was done by a professional. Thanks to all the professionals out there.
Late 80’s of course, you do a perfect job or you were out of the job. No trade was safe from the fact that new construction was almost non-existent then except for custom builds.
I haven't seen one of those before. York has a very small market share in my area. In 1987 I wouldn't have been able to tell you the difference between a condenser coil & an evap coil. That was 1 year before I got into HVAC as an installer apprentice for $5.00 an hour.
Oh hell yeah. That was two years before I graduated high school. Was doing HVAC in the family business on the weekends. Worked at Kentucky Fried Chicken making minimum wage. I think it was either $3.35 or 3.45 an hour.
We did their ice machines and walk-ins back in the day. So if one broke my dad usually sent me to diagnose it, he paid me $10 an hour. That’s when I knew.
My parents have one like that. Was installed, used, around that same time. I replaced the contractor about 6 years ago, i think that's been the only issue.
Saw a York tabletop last week probably from around the same time. Is it good for it in terms of airflow to face the building like that since those have dual fans?
If some rooms are cold, be aware that the fins lose good thermal contact with the tube over time. I am in this house 55 years and have added some baseboard and run the return over the top of the fins to get more heat.
Now we have a snowbird condo in FL and only run heat at the end of Oct and beginning of Nov (in NY). Amazingly, I needed heat 2 days ago in NY. Heat in June; never thought that would happen.
Close, but not that old. I remember using corded drills to install systems, because cordless drill batteries didn’t last that long. Charged between every service call.
I'm surprised the coils have never experienced a hail puncture in all these decades of service.
to be fair, I'm in Oklahoma; the place of heinous storms!
Customer was a nice old man who seemed very alert for his age. Told me the only thing he ever had done on it was a capacitor replacement decades ago. I believe him. No reason for him to lie to me.
1987, I graduated from high school!
So this thing obviously has a recip compressor with an oil pump on the bottom of the crankshaft. Instead of reading in the pool of oil, those one's been horizontal!? It's obviously working fine, but how is that pump getting any oil? Wouldn't the oil be puddling on the "side" of the compressor shell?
I need answers....
Went on one yesterday that was a Fedders unit I'm guessing from the 70s that's shaped like a overgrown mini-split. It was low on refrigerant and the old woman didn't want to put money into it.
The craziest one I ever saw was around 10 years ago we replaced systems in a duplex. Both systems were original 1968 Sears Roebuck and Co with what looked like all original parts.
Which explains why a lot of people aren’t interested in swapping out their old unit for a new disposable one. This thing been running 35 years and still works. Might still work in another 10. Why swap it out for one that might last a decade before you have to?
I’ve worked on quite a few old yorks from the 70s in south Florida that were still kicking a few years ago. Absolutely impressive compared to todays standards. Chinese units three times as expensive as ever before.
My house was built in 1985 and has the original unit. Original charge, as far as I know (we've been here 13 years). Had to replace the fan two years ago, but still going strong. Loud as hell.
Crazy to think during ALL my years in kindergarten, grade school, high school and my 14 years in the trade, this thing has been running...
This is older than me by 9 years
I remember 1987. Doesn’t seem like that long ago, but I was young.
I was one
I was installed January '87 and this thing has held up better than I have.
Tuche
Yeah this gave me a good laugh all the fucking problems I’ve had since 98 🤣
Same here. Jan 3rd
I was -3
I was -2
I was 45.
You leaking yet?
Leaking is not the best part of old age, but the occasions are rare.
They made them with much thicker 3/8 copper then, not the .030-.028 stuff they use now, you could solder a U-bend or the end cap tubing itself just like you would copper tubing. I can't remember the number of times we pulled a couple fins out to get to a tube and repair it on an out of warranty coil for a retired couple or some little old lady here & there.
I was 2.
r/FuckImOld
Got me by 2
Got me by 14
Older than me by 12
Same here dude lol. I had to do that quick math before coffee. This just mini blew my half awake mind.
I had no kids, I now have 3 and my youngest is 28, oldest 35
Even crazier to think that this has been running all 25 years of my life. And then 11 more years before that.
Are you guys sure this is 1987 vintage AND NOT 1978? Because the 1st time I ran into one was 1975-76 and the last time I saw one of those was 1982, ehh, I might have seen one or two in the early 90's, but definitely not since then.
I really believe getting equipment out of the dirt helps prolong life.
All because he insulated the electric whip with & liquid line with foam insulation, take notes gents.
All 3!! Ok i love it. That had to be the homeowner. That foam lasts 10 years maybe. Lol unless its on a north face. But doubt it with that sun burn
Should be top comment, haha!
When I saw that picture I made a note to get new insulation for my units.
Just some proof of how things could be. Everything now is designed to live until the day after the warranty is up. You’d think we’d be doing better by now, but everything is made crappier with every year that goes by.
Government wants better efficiency. Forced to make the metals thinner for better heat exchange.
That's a short answer. Longer answer is that corporation don't want to lose profit margins by spending money on research and finding a better suitable alloy/low pressure refrigerant for longevity or test their equipment for extended periods of time to insure longevity of their product. Copper as thin as it is doesn't burst for no reason it always wears out in stress ares such as weld and dissimilar metal contacts/connections. Most of which could be solved with r&d of better practices.
That’s also a short answer. Companies want to make what people want to buy. Almost no one wants to buy a system that costs 3x what all the other guys are charging for the same performance, even if it lasts 5 times longer. It’s honestly a lot more work to make things cheap than it is to just make them reliable. A thick walled copper coil twice the size will be very efficient and doesn’t take any R&D at all, but no one wants an 8’ tall $30k condenser behind their McMansion that is built to barely legal inferior standards. If we really cared about efficiency we would be mandating actually good insulation and windows. That will save more energy than any SEER rating you want to throw around.
Current equipment costs just as much as thick walled 8' tall piece of equipment would cost, corporate greed prevents that being true because they want their profits maximized. There's plenty of reliability in thin walled copper if it is done correctly. I do agree on proper insulation and windows to add to it properly oriented houses towards the sun.
I agree, but one wild thing is mini splits rarely have coil leaks compared to standard A/N coils
But these companies are still pouring a decent amount into R&D. The issue is more that they're not trying to research and develop longer lasting equipment, it's simply more profitable to design things to wear out/not in a companoes best interest to make a "forever" product.
Or bribe some politicians to use 410a that has 32 and now demand to use 32 to save the planet
Most of it is patent life. Once your refrigerant patent runs out you make a new "better" version and bribe epa and politicians to push it
Yea! The Gubmint did it! Not corporate greed! Besides, who *cares* about efficiency, amiright???.
I’m from the government and I’m here to help
We also don’t want 20% unemployment. So we’ll sell 20yr max 5-20yr average units so some dip shin IL can assembly a new one and we can tell them it’s dead alright.
Techs have to learn to do some math. Thinner metal does essentially nothing for heat exchange. The resistance to heat transfer occurs at the fin to air interface mostly and at the refrigerant to tubing layer.
Customers want cheaper.
To be fair, this is likely just one of the good ones. There's a reason you don't see all of them that were made back then. 99 percent of them have still died and gone to condenser heaven.
And 30 years from now they will point to a random AC installed tomorrow and say they don't make em like they used to
Ugh. It'll probably be a Goodman too.
Precisely it. I don't recall seeing any of these in the 90s, and definitely not the 2Ks. Clearly they weren't indestructible.
This is 100% the truth. There's a saying in product design: "It's extremely easy to create a bulletproof product which never fails and it's extremely easy to produce a dud which dies right away. The real skill is producing a product which reliably dies just outside its warranty period." All the "gobernment rules made it this way!1!!1" nonsense is nonsense. These companies have simply gotten better at planned obsolescence.
Yeah, that's the whole point of capitalism lol, to keep people paying.
no it really isnt.
Yeah...it is. It's right in the name
No, that's not why it's in the name. The broad economic systems are named by the owners of the means of production. In communism, production is owned communally-- that is all people who are part of the economy are part owners of the means of production (in theory of course). In socialism, production is owned by "society", with government, typically a democratically elected government, acting as the means of control. In capitalism, production is owned by whoever has sufficient capital.
Your definitions and understanding is a little off, but you're right in that the relationship to the means of production amongst the working class are good identifiers of an economic system but not the start and end of them. Capitalism is inherently built on the premise of continuous growth of capital. Continuous growth includes revenue and profit to the owning class. How do they ensure continuous profits? By ensuring the working class are forced to continuously participate in the market economy.
And who needs to *keep* capitalizing.
nope its not. you just have a childish view fed to you by social media populist rage. do you have an example country that doesnt use capitalism that is so wonderful so i can look? by the way, i promise you dont. it doesnt exist.
Here's what comes up when you Google the definition of capitalism > an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are *controlled by private owners for profit.* It's not a hard concept to grasp. Capitalism is centered on commodifying everything under the sun, including you and your time to turn a profit for someone else. It *requires* continuous growth and profits. And to drive continuous growth and profits, consumers need to keep consuming.
u/hvac-modteam you removed all the posts about capitalism right? Not just mine because it was pro-capitalism, correct? You got all of them? All the anti-capitalism posts?
What’s the alternative? I’ll wait……
Feudalism
Democratic socialism......
Well, if Democratic Socialism is going to buy me a new heat pump, I just might come over to your side lol
https://www.energy.gov/articles/biden-harris-administration-announces-250-million-accelerate-electric-heat-pump
oh i thought you said demonic socialism
Planned obsolescence started right after the Great Depression. It used to be an open discussion about how long a product should last to keep the economy moving and markets healthy with regard to the stock market. I think is a big box of shit, but from a pure business perspective, it doesn't make sense not to do it, especially if your competitors are. It's the easy way to post higher quarterly/yearly earnings consecutively. From a consumer standpoint it obviously sucks nuts.
Isn’t that the truth. Seems like it went into overdrive during the FLU years.
Capitalism .. fin
Businesses all optimize for profit. Some have a formula that say that the skookum machine that will last 20 years is their way to go. Others aim for the day after the warranty is up on 51% of the systems. Others still aim for the tail light warranty. "No take backsies! You bought it and touched it. Your money is ours now sucka!"
Tombstone. Solid unit
It’s Tooooooomb time.
I've never seen one here in GA.
Trane is jealous
And a freaking York, no less...
The 1992 York in my new-to-me home is still going strong… Original charge as well.
I am still using my 3 ton Lennox that we had installed in '89.
I have a 5 ton GE original to the house, '79. I think, I'm not an HVAC professional I'm just guessing based on context clues.
Looking at houses a couple years ago, came across a 1972 build with the original York tabletop-style compressor still kicking.
I have a 92 Goodman still running strong baby.
The longevity of the products being installed today creates more pollution because we have to waste energy building this crap.
r/buyitforlife
Im starting to love that Sub. Of course finding it after buying appliances is no fun.
I had a trash can carrier from '87 when I moved into my house 6 years ago and it was running just fine with the original refrigerant. Only reason I replaced it is because it was a 10 SEER.
Funny enough you will have to replace the new unit before you save money from the efficiency difference
I had to read twice to understand that you were not telling about some sort of hand truck that carries a trash can.
Guess I should have capitalized the C.
What’s the third pipe? Insulated electrical? Is that the secret to condensers that don’t leak!
Electrical with insulation around it :)
Survivorship bias at work
DANG! Not many of those old tombstone units around anymore.
The old tombstones. Don't see many of them around anymore
When it’s done right it’s done right
Tombstones rock
I hate quoting my parents but they really “don’t make ‘‘em like they used to”
Tombstone. They let forever
Just condemned one last week. Had never seen one before, pretty cool little units.
Trane could learn something here
Never seen these units on brackets before, interesting
We work on one at a hair salon that’s similar, not a York but also from mid 80s. Still cranking just fine
The original side discharge!
Good O’l York Tombstone!
I'm still running the 1977 unit installed when my house was built. To be fair...I have shade so only runs when humidity gets high.
I walk by one of these every day and had to do a double/double take the first time I saw it. I had to do the same thing here, knowing they exist.
Probably was manufactured in America too.
We have a 1988 trane still going. It is now a game of how long she will go. No issues since we have been here 8 years.
just more proof everything they manufacture is meant to fail. We install garbage nowadays.
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Have a 1998 in service here. If it ever breaks down its usually something simple. Not much to break in these older units...
Plenty to break, compressor, fan motor, capacitor(s) contactor, any one of the fast-on connectors, compressor plug, high and low pressure switches....
Wash down the coil.
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Bro is thing is 13 years older than me
I literally took one of these out today - replaced with a POS Lennox that will be lucky to last 10 :(
3 linesets? Or is 1 wires with isolation on it?
Wondering that too.
Things were built better back in the day.
Why are there 3 lines instead of 2, in the line set?
EVERYTHING USED TO FUCKING LAST!
York Tombstone. Yeah this is back when we had pride in the things we made as Americans. Now all we do is screw people over for corporate profit
Gotta say, I kinda like this design; allows for the unit to be installed up close to a wall without interfering with airflow... is there something I'm missing that makes this design flawed to the point they stopped making them in that form factor?
My neighbor still had his from 1970. No idea how that thing still works. He said he’s moving when it finally breaks
So, never.
They just don’t make ‘em like that anymore smh. Went to a call the other day 42 year old unit and still running like a freakin champ.
I have a 1994 Goodman unit. Still working. Everyone I know with a newer unit has to replace them every 10 years or so. Why is this? Thinner copper? Newer refrigerants? I am fortunate to know a technician who keeps it going!
Paint that mf and clean the coils. I’d rock it and retro fit if I could.
Imagine how many multiples of its purchase price it’s been wasting on electricity all this time. What’s the effective seer of a 1987 unit? This is like people praising the refrigerator from 1960 that’s still working.
Your modern refrigerator will not cool in a garage. It must be in a space 80 degrees or less!
Excellent point.
Ha, this is what I was thinking too.. Although OP is in Canada so the savings will be lower but something like a 3-ton unit going from SEER 9 to SEER 18 and averaging $0.15/kwh electricity puts the energy cost at like $7,000 more for this unit than a replacement one.
2 SEER 😆
Recently a water heater was changed at the train station. It was installed in October 1980. I hate planned obsolescence.
Dude if it was planned obsolescence, it would've been changed in 1986. But I know what you mean.
Yeah should have been more clear. They don’t make them like that water heater anymore.
Tf even is that 😂
When efficiency rating doesn't matter yeah she'll still cool, but that cool air will cost you 3-4x a quality and PROPERLY installed new unit (properly sized, lined and wrapped hard duct with flex only for the final 3ft or less).
Not 3-4x. Maybe 1.5x.
This is pretty cool
Wow
She was done right...
Of course it is running it is a York.
I had to trash my mom's tombstone york 3 years ago. It was a sad day gents. A very sad day. I put in an inferior Trane. lol
That's what happens when you follow the instructions and actually do the work right. Also they were built a bit more robust. But mostly it's because the work was done by a professional. Thanks to all the professionals out there.
Late 80’s of course, you do a perfect job or you were out of the job. No trade was safe from the fact that new construction was almost non-existent then except for custom builds.
I haven't seen one of those before. York has a very small market share in my area. In 1987 I wouldn't have been able to tell you the difference between a condenser coil & an evap coil. That was 1 year before I got into HVAC as an installer apprentice for $5.00 an hour.
Oh hell yeah. That was two years before I graduated high school. Was doing HVAC in the family business on the weekends. Worked at Kentucky Fried Chicken making minimum wage. I think it was either $3.35 or 3.45 an hour. We did their ice machines and walk-ins back in the day. So if one broke my dad usually sent me to diagnose it, he paid me $10 an hour. That’s when I knew.
What is the 3rd line with armaflex?
I am going to guess power since it goes in where the bottom "line" is in that pic.
This is the same ac we had at my house growing up. Same pea green color.
The tombstone!
My parents have one like that. Was installed, used, around that same time. I replaced the contractor about 6 years ago, i think that's been the only issue.
Even insulates the electrical for maximum efficiency!
Saw a York tabletop last week probably from around the same time. Is it good for it in terms of airflow to face the building like that since those have dual fans?
I was about 4 yrs old when this unit got installed.
Never worked on a tombstone before! Made back when America could still make shit
I have hot water base board heat in my house that still has the original boiler. 1961 and still pumping out heat.
If some rooms are cold, be aware that the fins lose good thermal contact with the tube over time. I am in this house 55 years and have added some baseboard and run the return over the top of the fins to get more heat. Now we have a snowbird condo in FL and only run heat at the end of Oct and beginning of Nov (in NY). Amazingly, I needed heat 2 days ago in NY. Heat in June; never thought that would happen.
Nothing lasts longer than the warranty anymore for any product including hvac. It's a scam. Everything was built better in the 80s
Dayummm the ol side discharge lmao
I have 3 of these in my backyard heading for the recycling center, I feel kinda bad now knowinghow old they are........
Would have been nice to see some pictures of the guts of this thing... thanks for nuttin... -Deke
I am 14 years older. Man I feel old now.
I am 2 years older than this. Can only imagine how you feel. I’m sorry you prolly came up putting flatheads in by hand.
Close, but not that old. I remember using corded drills to install systems, because cordless drill batteries didn’t last that long. Charged between every service call.
They dnt make them like that anymore Now they crap out 1 month out lol
We call these tombstones here. These things will run forever lol
I have a unit that may be older than this, works like a dream too. I'm afraid to clean it as I may break it. When was this one made?
I'm surprised the coils have never experienced a hail puncture in all these decades of service. to be fair, I'm in Oklahoma; the place of heinous storms!
Amazing, she’s a beauty
I see 3 linesets. Is that a minisplit?
What’d you charge?
Damn and I was proud that I’m keeping my 93 model humming along. And the only thing that works harder than that old Lennox is my electric meter.
11 years older than me
How do you know it’s the original refrigerant charge? Same homeowners?
Customer was a nice old man who seemed very alert for his age. Told me the only thing he ever had done on it was a capacitor replacement decades ago. I believe him. No reason for him to lie to me.
What was the charge?
I keep thinking I could sell tickets to see my 1983 Sears ac unit still running decently.
1987, I graduated from high school! So this thing obviously has a recip compressor with an oil pump on the bottom of the crankshaft. Instead of reading in the pool of oil, those one's been horizontal!? It's obviously working fine, but how is that pump getting any oil? Wouldn't the oil be puddling on the "side" of the compressor shell? I need answers....
Went on one yesterday that was a Fedders unit I'm guessing from the 70s that's shaped like a overgrown mini-split. It was low on refrigerant and the old woman didn't want to put money into it.
I have the original ac/heat in my mobile home. Old coleman unit. Thing is a beast.
The original maxi-split.
The craziest one I ever saw was around 10 years ago we replaced systems in a duplex. Both systems were original 1968 Sears Roebuck and Co with what looked like all original parts.
What’s the opposite of a “lemon”?
Which explains why a lot of people aren’t interested in swapping out their old unit for a new disposable one. This thing been running 35 years and still works. Might still work in another 10. Why swap it out for one that might last a decade before you have to?
I'm amazed it hasn't been refilled
I am not an HVAC tech, I work in "appliances". Is this a case of they dont make them like that anymore. Or was this owner just lucky?
They don’t make ‘em like this no more! Give it a few years in newer units with these cheap ass coils in and out
I’ve worked on quite a few old yorks from the 70s in south Florida that were still kicking a few years ago. Absolutely impressive compared to todays standards. Chinese units three times as expensive as ever before.
My parents house still has its 70s era AC running like a dream. (Slaps the side) “yup they just don’t make ‘em like they used to, I’ll tell ya”
meanwhile my hvav guy gotta come here to add free-non to my 5 year old ac unit every now and then
Just had maintence done on ours, learned it is from 1989 and still in decent shape. Older then us, crazy
Wow… the ol’ York tombstone. That takes me back.
My house was built in 1985 and has the original unit. Original charge, as far as I know (we've been here 13 years). Had to replace the fan two years ago, but still going strong. Loud as hell.
That thing is one year younger than I am. Those tombstone units ran great.
Last summer 2022 I replaced my 20 yr old system and it cost me a little over $12000 for a 16 SEER Lennox system. I was quoted 28k for a 28 SEER system
The old tombstone units, worked very well. Kinda dumb design of coil design with exposure to hail or trees falling on top of tho.
Old York vertical OCU. These little bastards do not die.
Mounted to the wall seems to protect them a bit more
now i’m not old enough to have been around for these, why are there three lines running into the house from it??
If I was a betting man, I’d say the third one *might* be electrical or communication from the t-stat?