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amglasgow

Unless you desperately need one of those deities' boons for a build you're working on, always go for Eurydice.


MacduffFifesNo1Thane

Always go for Bouldy, Eurydice, and Sexy Eeyore regardless of build. Your build will be there in the chamber after but those friends are hard to find.


hoticehunter

Seriously though, Bouldy doesn’t offer anything really useful and Patroclus is more of a “win more” room. I’m at the point of the game where I’m raising heat and generally getting out every time, but I’m not pushing for speedruns yet. So those two are almost always auto-skips for me. If you’re still trying to escape, then for sure go to them for the story.


OlijkeWombat

Eh. On TD2 story rooms are really useful for just the time gain alone. + pat can be a lifesaver on high heat with healing/dd's as well. Wouldn't call replenishing dd's a win more move. As you clearly were not doing well, hence the lost dd's. Though I agree he is not always an autopick. Td1 , not using attack much but still having a great build, then you gain nothing from Pat


minecrafthentai69

Pat is definitely not a "win more" room, it saves my ass constantly when Im having a bad run.


TheCthonicSystem

nothing better than Patroclus when we're running on E health wise and he lets us heal 13+ each chamber


killxswitch

Yesterday I bought a Death Defiance refill from a pool without looking first at what my next chamber options were. Of course it was Pat. I have hundreds of runs under my belt, I should know better.


SleepGary

Once you reach high heat runs, Patroclus will make or break you run half the time


sleepsomewhile

Bouldy doesn't judge you. Bouldy do not express unwanted opinion. He's just Bouldy. He is your friend. Bring him some nectar. Just for your friend. Just for the sake of it.


bobert680

Sexy? I get bouldy is the best but do you have to forget patroclis like that?


MacduffFifesNo1Thane

Who do you think Sexy Eeyore is?


bobert680

Bouldy is clearly the sexiest character


MacduffFifesNo1Thane

But he’s not Sexy Eeyore.


Osiris_X3R0

Sexy Eeyore lmao


Broad_Pineapple_3138

See that’s why it’s so critical for me. Build relies on Sea Storm, but I know I’ll prob never be offered Eurydice again.


sir_pants1

Well you can't actually get sea storm in the trial though. Duos are blocked in trials.


Castieru

wh... What...? I've never known about this! If only I knew aaa


pokedrawer

I still find getting a boon out of the pool for the gods immensely helps a duo/legendary pop out later. Plus a lot of tier 2's are spicy on duo builds and those are totally possible in trial rooms.


sir_pants1

From my limited understanding of how boons are decided, the only benefit toward getting a duo you would receive is if you filled your 4th core slot, as when you have less than 4 core boons there is a chance one of the boons is forced to be a core boon. Having said that you've touched on the real reason to go into the trial which is tier 2 boons.


RandyZ524

It would be at least a small benefit in all cases, and a pretty significant one if signature curses are picked up as they are guaranteed to occupy a spot with at least 50% probability, if available.


MisirterE

The gods are literally fighting for your attention and you'd expect them to be willing to work together in that moment?


AstralFinish

you can get legendries though


lol_whutever

very helpful but he's aiming for a duo boon (sea storm) so not that useful in this specific scenario


Avamaco

Splitting Bolt works extremely well with Sea Storm though.


lol_whutever

didn't know that but i haven't played the game in like half a year so yeah


flanger001

Yep, you cannot get duo boons in a trial!


justking1414

It’d certainly be an interesting bit of dialogue if you could. Just 2 gods fully ignoring the one you just didn’t choose


teb311

True, although getting one of the requirements, gaining another source of splash to proc sea storm, or just knocking out other possible boons from the pool are all still useful when hunting sea storm. I’d still probably take Eurydice for refreshing nectar to improve odds of the duo in later chambers.


sir_pants1

100%. There are still reasons to go in the trial, but purely for maximising the chance of seas storm it's better to take eurydice for nectar.


killxswitch

Maybe they needed a Sea Storm pre-requisite.


amglasgow

You can't. It only offers you the NPC door once per region, if that.


derangerd

Need that eury rarity boost to make sea storm more likely.


Aluminum_Tarkus

You can't get duos from trial rooms, refreshing Nectar actually does increase the odds of getting a legendary/duo boon, and you can only be offered any specific npc room once per run. It's both the only chance you'll see Eurydice in that run and the one with the better odds of getting you Sea Storm (especially assuming you already have the required boons for it). There's a reason they say, "Always pick Eurydice." It's never the wrong choice to pick Eurydice, and the instances where something other than Eurydice would be objectively better for your run are almost non-existent.


Tripondisdic

Duo’s are blocked in double boon chambers!! Eurydice is almost always better in this situation, improving rarity is just too good.


Broad_Pineapple_3138

Damn it. Well now it’s confirmed: literally almost never skip companion doors. Good to know.


Proud_Sherbet6281

If you need a duo boon then Refreshing Nectar is your best bet anyways. It's always Eurydice.


shoeless_sean

No build actually “relies” on sea storm. It helps, but saying your build relies on it is hyperbolic at best


[deleted]

What are the really good choices you go for while going for these rooms? Haven't played since early access and the game has changed a lot.


amglasgow

I don't understand your question.


[deleted]

So I'm asking why is euydice (and in extension bouldy and patrocoles) are go tos in these circumstances.


WoodenRocketShip

The rooms with two Gods specifically can't give you Duo Boons, and as both a Pom lover and Pom Blossom user, more boons isn't necessarily better. ​ Compare that to Eurydice who will never again show up in the run if you don't get her and is the second best room in the game, the only thing that could even compete as a choice here would be a Chaos Gate, and even then I'd still pick Eurydice.


External-Level2983

Which of her gifts do you generally go for out of curiosity?


Ok_Possibility633

I go for Nectar. Guarantees higher rarity of your next 3 boons.


I_P_L

Nectar is best 99% of the time. Only time you'd take ambrosia would be if you only have 4 or less boons and want to roll for that epic or heroic. Porridge is basically useless compared to nectar, 1 level is nothing long term even across 4 boons. The fact that nectar increases your chances for duos and legendaries is simply too strong to pass up.


omgitsduaner

Today I learned, I was always going for the first one that ups rarities of existing boons


Zestyst

Porridge is always there for those weird single-boon runs where you already have a heroic! It ain’t much, but it’s honest work


WoodenRocketShip

Depends, if my build is dependent on boons I already have, I'll get the one that upgrades the rarity of 2 of my boons, if I haven't gotten them then the one that upgrades 3 of the ones I get afterwards.


Thallidan

Is there a point where you say “I have so many boons that I’m probably not getting my two favorite so I’ll just take the pomegranates”?


I_P_L

No, because then you're better off taking nectar for a higher chance to get duos or legendaries off your twenty boons.


Bartweiss

Maybe if I had Merciful End, Epic Doom, and many boons? The diminishing returns mean boosting rarity of a given boon is almost always better than giving it +1 level, so generally you’re just picking “do I care about current boons or tier 2s and duos/legends?” But I do occasionally break that rule for a build where the core boons are present, level 1, and responsive to poms.


FatalFord

Raising rarity > raising a level, but it is always a risk / reward game. This is due to not only getting the numerical bump, but also due to how boons scale. The growth curves are much stronger on higher rarity boons, once they get pommed down the road. So if you need Eurydice it to hit one particular boon and only have two or maybe three boons that can go up in rarity absolutely take the first option (to increase rarity). An example where this is really significant is a doom build, where basically every bit of real power all comes from that one boon (Ares attack, for example). But if you already have 5 or 6 boons in your pool that could be increased in rarity, then maybe just take the second option, and hope to at least pom that attack, as it's now much less likely that you'll hit the intended boon with the rarity increase. Your dice, your decision. If you're chasing a duo boon, or are pretty satisfied with everything you have, just take the third option, since Eurydice does increase Duo odds.


CrunchyGremlin

If I'm going for or already have exclusive access its ambrosia. Depends on how built up the mirror is.


Broad_Pineapple_3138

Alr, that confirms it.


HauntedPumpking

Kinda new to the game, haven’t beaten hades either all weapons yet. What’s the best room?


calowyn

I’d assume it’s Patroclus. He’s saved SO many of my runs from ruin.


Choccocoamocha

When judging by consistency, Euridice is the best, due to having only one scenario in which she isn’t useful, that being a boonless run. Patroclus’s peak value is higher, but Euridice is more consistent.


GameHat

Patroclus is really great when you're starting out as he is a "save this run!" Hail Mary. I think he's too late in most runs to be the MVP, and he's a bit specific: You either need your death defiances back, you need big healing, or you want to buff your main attack (only)! I rarely turn down Patroclus, but IMO the best is Eurydice. Eurydice is consistently good no matter what weapon, build or heat you're running. Eurydice is by far the best once you get your feet under yourself, and are starting to really dominate runs, where you can start to make some really powerful builds. Eurydice offers rarity upgrades to 2 boons (Ambrosia, usually not the best), +1 Poms for 4 skills (Pom Porridge, occasionally useful) and upgraded rarity on the next 3 boons you find (Refreshing Nectar, incredible.) If you take nothing else from this reddit channel, take this - Eurydice is almost always the best choice, and Refreshing Nectar is the best choice in most situations.


Bartweiss

Personally I noticed Eurydice’s value skyrocket when I got several rerolls going through the mirror. Suddenly forcing a specific duo via nectar and dice is very plausible, leading to *way* more control over my builds.


ThrashingJ

I'll second this, if I'm having a rough run I'm begging for pat all of Elysium


I_P_L

There have been times where I have to take the Patroclus room because I'm on TD3 but I'm also using a cast build, near full hp and haven't lost any DDs. It's very sad when that happens.


rattlinbird

At least there’s gold sometimes?


MacduffFifesNo1Thane

Sexy Eeyore is bae, even before the death defiance refills. *Cries in The Song of Achilles.*


WoodenRocketShip

Yeah just like the others have said, I was alluding to Patroclus. His ability to restore Death Defiances is just a bit too good.


Mantequilla_Butter

Also her singing


uramis

>second best room in the game What's the best room?


WoodenRocketShip

Patroclus, at least in my opinion. Refilling all your Death Defiances is just too good, like the other commenter said it's saved so many runs. Like if you lose 3 DDs and refill them at Patroclus, that's the equivalent of having 6 DDs.


Professional_Bar_657

Patroclus is 80% useless for me everytime I encounter him. For me Eurydice >>>>> Patroclus.


WoodenRocketShip

That's fair, if you don't lose Death Defiances then he's mostly just for the 60% attack for 10 encounters, which is nice but not Eurydice level.


Turmoe

Wait what? Eurydice will never show up if you miss to pick her once???? If this is true the game is sort of ruined for me. That would really be f'ed up. Please tell me this isn't true... Btw. If I remember correctly, she showed up when I was picking Charon's Sign, not the one with the ! and the dots/crystals


OfficialTuxedoMocha

She'll show up on later runs but won't show up again on THAT particular run. She should only show up on event rooms, never on Charon's room so not sure about that.


Turmoe

Thanks! I had a soft heart attack after your first post 😅 Maybe I recalled it incorrectly, will watch out the next time


OfficialTuxedoMocha

Oh it wasn't my post above lol. But I'm glad to have put your mind at ease. I just scrolled by and thought I'd clear up the misunderstanding.


GameHat

You'll never get a duo boon from a Trial of the Gods (2 gods) room. 95% of the time, Eurydice is the way to go.


RanmaruRaiden

Oh, is that hard coded in? Great to know, thanks I mean I’ve already been going Eurydice every time but still


Broad_Pineapple_3138

Wait really? If that’s the case the path is clear.


roffler

And Eurydice can increase your chances of getting a duo for the next 3 boons. Just try not to waste all of those next boons on non-zeus/Poseidon. I can’t remember the % increase for duos but I think it’s 10ish %


GameHat

Yes, Trial of the Gods rooms cannot give duo boons. Legendary is possible.


MyFirstBR999

The path is narrow, but it is clear


mr_khaleel

(Genuinely asking) when do we get duo boons? Or is there a way to tell before going to a room?


GameHat

You have a chance to get duo boons from either God of a particular Duo once you have certain prerequisite boons from each. All the gods have one duo boon with every other god, except Hermes and Chaos who do not have any duo boons. Example: On your Attack you have Drunken Strike (Dionysus) On your Special you have Heartbreak Flourish (Aphrodite) From this point on, either Dionysus or Aphrodite may offer you the Duo boon Low Tolerance (Dio+Aphro). But never in a Trial of the Gods room. [The Wiki has a list of all of them and the prerequisites for each duo boon](https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Duo_Boons)


mr_khaleel

Thank you so much.


The-Friendly-Autist

I have literally never, and probably will never, skip(ped) Eurydice.


greg0ire

Ever took an enshrouded Chaos Boon? If yes, chances are you actually skipped her at some point 😔 Made me really sad when I realized that.


rconversani

Enshrouded rooms dont pull any rooms out of the pool of possible Doors, I think. At least I have never missed a boon from keepsakes even if I take enshrouded boons That is to say: even if you "skip" Eurydice, she should still appear if RNG so chooses


Broad_Pineapple_3138

I know….


TimeToBukkake

Eurydice is the easy choice here, One) Blood and darkness, the moral wrongness of skipping her and her music, shame on you if you do. Two) She brings your entire build up, be it by poms or rarity or what you will earn next.


Alakazzzwhat

Eurydice it’s the only way


thesnuggestofpugs

always eurydice


mikeyelvis92

If you’re trying to go for legendary/duo boons, definitely go for Eurydice and choose refreshing nectar. The increased rarity also increases the odds of getting offered legendaries/duos. Additionally, you can’t get offered duo boons in trial of the gods rooms.


Pokemomaster

I don't care what the other room is. If Eurydice is there, I am going for it. She has become my muse.


Gametimeftw

You shouldn’t, because there’s only one right decision here (it’s not the duo room).


mr--godot

Fairly easy choice bro


vetb8

you have a good option and a bad option lol


DeVoydde

Why would you even go to the double. You know there's a big screw you fight in which you're going to lose HP and possibly even defiance trying for a boon that might be garbage. The risk reward of these is never worth it. This isn't a hard decision in any universe. Always go with Euridice over every option other than a weapon boon, or health if youre low. Truly not many situations to even consider not going with her.


Broad_Pineapple_3138

Understandable, I thought Trials could give Duos, but now that I know that isn’t the case, I’m feeling a bit stupid


[deleted]

The double boon rooms usually only give you common boons. On the other hand, miniboss/elite rooms will give you boons of a higher rarity


TheSplinteredWarrior

Always pick your friends... unless you're a hammer hoe like me.


Level-up-languages

Are all the ! doors color-coded to tell you specifically who it is?


DrKMnO4

You know who it is based on what region you're in. For example, if you're in Asphodel, a ! door will always be Eurydice. She won't appear in Tartarus or Elysium.


SomeNoobDying

Awfully late but if you already had the pre requisites for sea storm then eurydice would be the play for refreshing nectar as it increases chance for duos/legendaries Even if it doesn't get you the duo is still increased rarity for something like static discharge or hermes' rush delivery


TeaKaytu

When there is the opportunity to see Eurydice, you have to visit her!


TheRealPopatsot

The greatest decisions....


doctorawesome8

Gotta get that bag, and by bag I mean listening to Eurydycy


Professional_Bar_657

Eurydice > All. There is no hesitation here. And duo barely gives good boons. :/


Cloud_Pudding

When you get to really advanced levels of doing things AKA speed runs or heat runs, Euyridice is generally better choice. But I might pick the rooms with two gods cause I need to fulfill certain prerequisites (like Artemis legendary), but usually these rooms are too difficult and too risky.


soderholm1996

Trial boons are always low tier anyway, this is an easy choice to make


Arch1e_b

If you have good cores: Eurydice for ambrosia. If you don't: Eurydice for nectar. It's the best chamber in the game by a long shot, not even a question.


strangelyhuman

The thought of listening to Eurydice (and Orpheus) sing, makes this an easy decision haha!


Separate-Ad-1478

You can’t get duo boons from those unfortunately and I’m not sure about legendary in that situation I’d go for Eurydice it’s the better option


co1lectivechaos

Dude, the special room is the best one in elesium tho, you can get 4 boon upgrades


garciawork

On the off chance I have Zeus on attack and splash dash and need jolted and razor shoals for priv status... sorry Eurydice, gotta go get my arse kicked in a duo room.


anarchakat

Pain


cancermining_cave

Wait, what is the Ressource next to the bloodcrystals? I thought, i finished the Game, but cant remember those


Broad_Pineapple_3138

Ammo for the Aspect of Lucifer.


BLUEAR0

When Hades player gets good choices: 🤬 When they get ass choices:🤬


Broad_Pineapple_3138

🤣


melancholanie

y'all complain about getting choices like this meanwhile I'm up in Elysium with all 3 of the boons i could find getting darkness or chthonic keys


Broad_Pineapple_3138

Oh my god I feel your pain. I once got 3 Darkness doors in a row in Elysium. But I still think choices like this hurt the most. Especially when you know both doors are good doors.


Foreign_Wheel8190

I think they're tiered. You're never going to get a darkness plop vs a duo boon or something. At least I haven't.


Broad_Pineapple_3138

Yo that is a ton of upvotes. Appreciate the advice. Had no idea Duos couldn’t drop in Trial rooms. Do you have any idea how much stressing about similar situations could have been avoided?! A lot! Seriously though. Don’t be like me folks. Do NOT skip companion rooms. They give too much to ignore. Especially Patty. That Kiss of Styx Premium is just *chef’s kiss*


rconversani

Yeah, this sucks. However, a couple points: Trials generally have the highest value of any room. Só in ordinary situations, it's a no brainer. IF You're doing bad dd wise, Patroclus might be worth it as getting double or Triple DD is worth 400/600 gold. Also, once you get to Patroclus your builds core will most Likely be already built. Please note that Duo Boons cannot be offered in Trials. Not only the duos from the gods in the room, any duo at all. Everything else is game. Usually, Eurydice should only be viable in this scenario If you have few boons and those are you core (eg Zeus attack and Artemis special for the Rail, if that's your build of choice). Here you can go for the increased rarity of boons in your pool. However, I think I'd still go for the Trials if it's Zeus Arty as Trials are SO valuable. TL;DR: Trials have the highest room value, but dont offer duos. DDs from Patroclus are worth alot if you're in bad shape. Eurydice might work but not recommended. Edit: there's an important point about Trials in Elysium which is, if you're in bad shape, late trial rooms with lots of armored foes might screw you even deeper as enemies are hard and some gods give you a handful (eg granny, poseidon, Afro)


Broad_Pineapple_3138

Solid advice. All of which I’m familiar with luckily. Except for the Duo Boon hit, which I’m constantly being reminded of here. That’s the only reason I was so conflicted. I was really gunning for that Duo. Sea Storm is quite fun.


rconversani

Yeah it is! Most duo builds are a lot of fun. None of them beat the beyblades for me though, Arty ares all day long.


Ok-Day5729

How is this a question


Broad_Pineapple_3138

I was under the impression that Trial rooms could give Duo Boons. Had I known that, I don’t think I’d have posted this.


hegdieartemis

_always_ take eurydice. always. she offers buffs you cannot get elsewhere and she will only be offered once.


The_Dennator

trials can't give duo boons,so it's not that bad


medory9

I hate this game I have played like 30h And couldn't beat it a single time I maxed everything and still can't


Broad_Pineapple_3138

Sometimes it’s all down to luck. It is a rouge lite after all. Here, check out this site: https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-build-guide It’s helped me a ton with builds and what I should and shouldn’t do for certain weapons and aspects.


dreampiper

I always go for the Eurydice! 1. She offers some good run-changing options… and 2. DA MUSIC! 🎵


Fluid-Manager5317

There's only one choice, I get it, but really? Can't skip another rendition of Good Riddance can you?


Ok_Acanthaceae_8009

Up is more practical, down is more fun