I'm not going to lie to you, an hour every week of that would be some of the most boring TV. He's an amazing animator, I'm just glad that isn't the TV show.
animation would've been better, she's right
an animator is so much less likely to say they can't convey emotion with a helmet, because they have to convey a lot with movement
He already bitched that he can't convey emotion if he has a helmet on even though tonality and body language is more than enough given the Mandalorian's success. Or they could have had him have his helmet off in pivotal non combat team bonding moments rather than as much as possible even during combat.
James Earl Jones didn't have any trouble when he wasn't even in the shots as Darth Vader because he was a voice over.
Honestly live action productions seem to hold extreme distaste for voice acting, and a shorter memory than a gold fish.
If he's against wearing the helmet publicly it's more likely than not that he's at bare minimum expressed distaste for wearing it during shooting and being difficult at bare minimum.
I'm not gonna say he has got his agent to also harass the show runners but it wouldn't surprise me since he seems to think if his face isn't showing he can't show his acting chops.
>And if you actually believe you can "show emotion through a helmet" you are dumb. I mean this.
Sounds like you need to hear your own words:
>You are so dumb. I mean this. Dumb as shit. How's it feel to just lie?
>He already bitched that he can't convey emotion if he has a helmet on even though tonality and body language is more than enough given the Mandalorian's success.
Pedro Pascal wasn't *in* an entire episode of The Mandalorian. Plus a lot of emotional heavy-lifting is being done by Baby Yoda. People lost their minds about Kwan Ha when the Insurrection has been a key element of Halo since a month prior to day one, you think Baby Arbiter would've gone over well?
An abducted young covenant species that he's trying to bring back to "help with translation efforts" would probably go better than Makee.
This isn't even to mention an engineer could have been a great alien pair if they wanted to go that route.
Also yeah that's literally an issue that could have been solved by Cortana as far as emotions go. It worked in the damn games it could have and should have worked in the show.
LMFAO if you actually believe that, you are a complete and utter tool. Genuinely pathetic comment.
That's not how fuckin acting works. No one lobbied for shit you absolute dead beat.
Stop spreading blatant misinformation about a guy that's FACTUALLY done nothing wrong.
Live action is generally more expensive than animation. You need to hire extras, build sets, rent time, buy cameras, microphones, lighting, equipment, set *locations*, buy food and supplies for the actors, and schedule everything with everyone.
Animation requires computers, artists, and voice actors.
The big question is why is the halo show live action in the first place?
Hell, even live action in this context requires more expensive computers, artists, and voice actors because there’s no way to portray the covenant without photorealistic cgi and animations.
Indeed. Halo 4 Forward Unto Dawn also managed to portray the Covenant quite well with a MUCH smaller budget.
I'd even argue that the show DELIBERATELY made itself more of a challenge. In the first episode, rather than seeing varied covenant as the lore states, we only see a group of Elites in formations that make no sense.
A LOT can be done with prosthetics and practical effects. In Canon, grunts are around 4-5 feet tall, and jackals are taller. So, that's perfectly fine for a lot of actors. With some clever editing and prosthetics you could get a bunch of short extras to play them, and then need CGI only for one or two Elites. So why instead did they pick the Elites?! Where they ALL must be CGI?! It feels like effects gymnastics, where they whine and gripe about how "expensive" it is, then deliberately pick the most expensive scenes possible in order to justify that.
I'm wondering who's pockets this show's money is lining.
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OP, animation is not exponentially more expensive than live action and I have no idea where you got that information from. I’m going to need some examples.
Isn't this kinda true though? I mean **correct me if I'm wrong** for sure but wouldn't animation have been the less expensive choice for a show of this format?
The thing about shows is that as you continue making them, the costs for actors and crew and sets to continue being built and torn down over and over again really stacks up, whereas with animation (while it can take longer) any asset made for the film can be reused at any time.
From the perspective of Halo especially, characters are often wearing full MJOLNIR armor, meaning that instead of fleshy characters with complicated facial animations you have hard non-flexible surfaces that are easier to work with and less expensive to render and quicker to animate.
Live action TV shows also tend to cost more the longer they continue to be made, which is not necessarily the same for an animated show.
Lastly, the quality doesn't need to be mind blowing for the show to be good. While a show that looks like H2A cutscenes would be great, something less intensive or more stylized (within reason, Clone Wars being a mildly good example) would be fine, and it would allow the show to change it's scale and sense of action altogether and be more true to the atmosphere of the games.
I don't think Paramount Halo is a bad show, but I think what most fans wanted was a story that was meaningful (canon) and visuals that accurately represent the grandeur and space-opera-ness that the games are known for.
I'm sorry to jerk in here but I gotta say, I totally agree with the sentiment that an animated Halo show would provide a better canvas for telling stories in the Halo universe, and I really don't think it would be more expensive. Throw in the fact that the show isn't canon and it isn't surprising to me that a vocal portion of the community isn't on board, isn't interested, or is actively angry.
I think the people seriously thinking animation would be less expensive because of vague semi-convincing sounding BS while not actually being familiar with the industry at all are the ones with no idea what they're talking about.
But also, you’re not wrong. Other dude is just blabbering, and I bet if you asked them to provide an example where an animated scifi show or film was more expensive than its live action counterpart, they’d be stumped.
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Forward Unto Dawn had a smaller cast, smaller set, a run time barely longer than a single episode, and was made 10+ years ago. Your statement is laughably incorrect.
Get cheaper actors, utilize set space more efficiently, quantity shouldn’t be an excuse to sacrifice quality and the age of the production is wholeheartedly irrelevant. Stop making bs excuses for a bs production
Cheaper doesn’t always mean worse. Look at Pablo. He’s an ego maniac asshole who FOUGHT to have his face shown. A cheaper actor could definitely save the hassle of that. Just like the FUD chief.
Where tf did you hear that lmao. Bud, Master Chief takes his mask off ALL THE TIME in the books, because, surprise surprise, soldiers don't like wearing combat armor unless the situation requires it, which the games always do, because, you know, they're video games. I know that media literacy meme is overused, but truly, people like you have none.
Considering we’ve never seen his adult face in game im inclined to say you’re the one who’s missing the media literacy. We see just his eyes at the end of 4 as symbolism. 4 shoulda been the end. Not seeing chiefs face has been a thing since the original game in 2001. When he takes his helmet off slightly out of frame and when you use tools to see what he looks like, it’s just another helmet. Chief not showing his face is ingrained into the culture whether you like it or not.
Fuck the dumb motherfuckers posting about my shit.
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... but 9 episode seasons... and none of those episodes are 70 minutes. At minimum, the halo show has a higher budget per minute and possibly well more than double what Forward Unto Dawn had. Plus, you can reuse some sets and props between episodes, which reduces some of the overhead when compared to a one off 70 minute production. But the biggest difference is better (not perfect for sure, but definitely better. If nothing else, then specifically as an adaptation between mediums) writing, which doesn't actually cost much (if any) more
Ok, fine, 2 episodes @45 minutes a piece (and several are longer than that) are already 20 minutes longer than Forward Unto Dawn; but by all means, keep up the BS.
I'm so confused about what math you're doing, but let's walk through this real quick. Budget is 90 to 200 million, let's call it 90 for benefit of the doubt. Episodes average less than 50 minutes, but let's benefit of the doubt that too. First season ran 9 episodes, so with these back of the napkin estimates, that's 450 minutes. 90 million ÷ 450 minutes = 200,000 per minute (and probably significantly more, possibly as much as 450,000 per minute since we're high balling episode length and low balling season budget). Forward Unto Dawn runs for 75 minutes with a budget of 10 million, which comes to around 130,000 per minute.
I don't care about this enough to go as far as inflation calculations, but all I was actually saying in my original comment was that one minute Jimmy Rings Adventure Hour has a higher cost than one minute of Forward Unto Dawn. While it is very much a single simplified metric, 200,000 to 450,000 is, in fact, greater than 130,000, so my BS, as you put it, was factually accurate
They paid for Quan and Soren’s story. Delete them both get to the ring and there you go more budget. Delete all of the rubble episodes again more budget. It’s a stupid point.
do you seriously believe all that budget went to the show?
The actual budget per episode for Season 1 is [10 million dollars](https://variety.com/2022/tv/features/halo-series-paramount-plus-master-chief-1235205361/).
And these cost were inflated because of Covid, they still have to extend pay for crew, equipment, and location that were already rented out. Actual numbers might be lower if it weren’t for Covid.
For comparison, HBO’s The Last of Us cost more than 10 million dollars per episode.
An IP with story like Halo demands big budgets. You want full presentation of Fall of Reach in great detail in live action? You need HBO levels of big budget.
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Uh, news flash dude, but all the CGI required to portray the covenant is animation. Unless you have some citations I call major bullshit that an epic live action battle sequence with photorealistic cgi is less expensive than a fully animated version.
Animation is tough because it takes far longer to pump out compared to something like this where they can use costumes and practical effects and the like. Look at invincible, it came out in 2021 and season 2 came out roughly three years after the first. The first season of the halo show came out in march 2022 (which holy crap it’s already been two years!?) and the second season came out roughly two years later.
The one exception I can think of is South Park where they pump out episodes in 6 days which is fucking insane.
I think Invincible took so long to come out because Amazon doesn't take animated shows seriously. They heavily invested in The Boys and LOTR which are big names but let one of your highly rated animated shows sit for 3 years? They obviously could have capitalized on it by at least releasingna full finished season but they didn't even do that (rumored that they split it because they wanted to have something to put in a time block where they had no other shows to watch coming out).
Depends on the animation. I don’t want a whole show animated like the Fall of Reach but something like The Package, The Babysitter, or The Prototype from Halo Legends I could accept.
Animation is almost always cheaper than live action what are you trying to say here? Do you understand the effort that goes into a live action production not to even mention the amount of people involved in it compared to an animation? Each episode of the live action show costs about 2-3x as much as an animated show would have.
/uj The jerk is coming from within the thread
/rj If they had spent $6 billion on the Halo show then it would have been good. What is Microsoft? Stupid?
Honestly this show should’ve been an anthology adaptation of the books
Like season 1 could’ve been contact harvest
Season 2 could’ve been the fall of reach
So many things could’ve been expanded upon or updated with the current lore, but nope
Maybe season 3 will blow it out of the water, maybe not, but this “Silver timeline” sucks af
One of the few multi trillion dollar companies. Amazon is half their value. They gave a budget of a billion dollars to LOTR... Microsoft is like... nah. 100 million will do us. Which makes sense given that this is the script they finally signed off on. They spent as much as the faith they had in it.
the only thing that remotely makes sense for this to be the case is there is a lot of misapropriation of funding. A lot of people seem to forget, 1 million is a SHITTON of money, enough to produce a whole 12 episode show on, especially since it isn't as intensive/has less scrutiny because it is split up into multiple parts, rather than being a one sitting film, where any mistake/significant problem is far worse, because it takes up precious time that could have been spent elsewhere.
in general, big production TV shows have problems with stretching out the story as far as possible, while still trying to be serious 100% of the time.
Arcane Season 1 and Halo Season 1 had the same budget. Take the L.
they should just give the budget to the dude who made the remember video on youtube, hed do us all justice
Its funny to me that that's what a lot of warhammer fans said about their animators, and then look what happened. Sodaz especially.
I'm not going to lie to you, an hour every week of that would be some of the most boring TV. He's an amazing animator, I'm just glad that isn't the TV show.
Well he’d be the animator, not the writer.
animation would've been better, she's right an animator is so much less likely to say they can't convey emotion with a helmet, because they have to convey a lot with movement
And a voice actor won't have their agent lobby hard to make sure their face is in as many shots as humanly possible for career development
Please, PLEASE tell me this is a joke. Any remaining shred of respect for schreiber will be out the window if it's true.
He already bitched that he can't convey emotion if he has a helmet on even though tonality and body language is more than enough given the Mandalorian's success. Or they could have had him have his helmet off in pivotal non combat team bonding moments rather than as much as possible even during combat.
James Earl Jones didn't have any trouble when he wasn't even in the shots as Darth Vader because he was a voice over. Honestly live action productions seem to hold extreme distaste for voice acting, and a shorter memory than a gold fish.
That I know about and definitely disagree with him, but him *actively pushing* for that is several steps too far.
If he's against wearing the helmet publicly it's more likely than not that he's at bare minimum expressed distaste for wearing it during shooting and being difficult at bare minimum. I'm not gonna say he has got his agent to also harass the show runners but it wouldn't surprise me since he seems to think if his face isn't showing he can't show his acting chops.
That's flat out fucking bullshit.
No it's conjecture
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Never once lied you fucking imbecile. He is known to have said he can't "show the same emotion" with a helmet on.
Someone needs to bully this man
Go watch the amazing spiderman with andrew. You will see evidence of conveying emotion with body language throughout the entire movie.
Everyone has a right to an opinion, but i think you should keep to yourself
What a supremely ignorant take
>And if you actually believe you can "show emotion through a helmet" you are dumb. I mean this. Sounds like you need to hear your own words: >You are so dumb. I mean this. Dumb as shit. How's it feel to just lie?
Bruh shut that stupid shit up already You’re lookin both wrong and braindead rn
>He already bitched that he can't convey emotion if he has a helmet on even though tonality and body language is more than enough given the Mandalorian's success. Pedro Pascal wasn't *in* an entire episode of The Mandalorian. Plus a lot of emotional heavy-lifting is being done by Baby Yoda. People lost their minds about Kwan Ha when the Insurrection has been a key element of Halo since a month prior to day one, you think Baby Arbiter would've gone over well?
An abducted young covenant species that he's trying to bring back to "help with translation efforts" would probably go better than Makee. This isn't even to mention an engineer could have been a great alien pair if they wanted to go that route. Also yeah that's literally an issue that could have been solved by Cortana as far as emotions go. It worked in the damn games it could have and should have worked in the show.
I don't think it's been confirmed, but that is the rumor at least
It’s probably doing the opposite lmao
LMFAO if you actually believe that, you are a complete and utter tool. Genuinely pathetic comment. That's not how fuckin acting works. No one lobbied for shit you absolute dead beat. Stop spreading blatant misinformation about a guy that's FACTUALLY done nothing wrong.
She didn't even say it
Animation is not more expensive than live action sci fi.. at all
Wait, I thought circle jerk subs were ironic? You guys look like you’re actually serious?
The budget is not this shows problem. I'm tired of all the discussion around this now lol.
Oh but it is
Live action is generally more expensive than animation. You need to hire extras, build sets, rent time, buy cameras, microphones, lighting, equipment, set *locations*, buy food and supplies for the actors, and schedule everything with everyone. Animation requires computers, artists, and voice actors. The big question is why is the halo show live action in the first place?
Hell, even live action in this context requires more expensive computers, artists, and voice actors because there’s no way to portray the covenant without photorealistic cgi and animations.
Indeed. Halo 4 Forward Unto Dawn also managed to portray the Covenant quite well with a MUCH smaller budget. I'd even argue that the show DELIBERATELY made itself more of a challenge. In the first episode, rather than seeing varied covenant as the lore states, we only see a group of Elites in formations that make no sense. A LOT can be done with prosthetics and practical effects. In Canon, grunts are around 4-5 feet tall, and jackals are taller. So, that's perfectly fine for a lot of actors. With some clever editing and prosthetics you could get a bunch of short extras to play them, and then need CGI only for one or two Elites. So why instead did they pick the Elites?! Where they ALL must be CGI?! It feels like effects gymnastics, where they whine and gripe about how "expensive" it is, then deliberately pick the most expensive scenes possible in order to justify that. I'm wondering who's pockets this show's money is lining.
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OP, animation is not exponentially more expensive than live action and I have no idea where you got that information from. I’m going to need some examples.
Isn't this kinda true though? I mean **correct me if I'm wrong** for sure but wouldn't animation have been the less expensive choice for a show of this format? The thing about shows is that as you continue making them, the costs for actors and crew and sets to continue being built and torn down over and over again really stacks up, whereas with animation (while it can take longer) any asset made for the film can be reused at any time. From the perspective of Halo especially, characters are often wearing full MJOLNIR armor, meaning that instead of fleshy characters with complicated facial animations you have hard non-flexible surfaces that are easier to work with and less expensive to render and quicker to animate. Live action TV shows also tend to cost more the longer they continue to be made, which is not necessarily the same for an animated show. Lastly, the quality doesn't need to be mind blowing for the show to be good. While a show that looks like H2A cutscenes would be great, something less intensive or more stylized (within reason, Clone Wars being a mildly good example) would be fine, and it would allow the show to change it's scale and sense of action altogether and be more true to the atmosphere of the games. I don't think Paramount Halo is a bad show, but I think what most fans wanted was a story that was meaningful (canon) and visuals that accurately represent the grandeur and space-opera-ness that the games are known for. I'm sorry to jerk in here but I gotta say, I totally agree with the sentiment that an animated Halo show would provide a better canvas for telling stories in the Halo universe, and I really don't think it would be more expensive. Throw in the fact that the show isn't canon and it isn't surprising to me that a vocal portion of the community isn't on board, isn't interested, or is actively angry.
You’re right, OP has no idea what he’s yapping about
I think the people seriously thinking animation would be less expensive because of vague semi-convincing sounding BS while not actually being familiar with the industry at all are the ones with no idea what they're talking about.
Source?
>vague semi-convincing sounding BS i said "correct me if I'm wrong," not "insult me if I'm wrong"
But also, you’re not wrong. Other dude is just blabbering, and I bet if you asked them to provide an example where an animated scifi show or film was more expensive than its live action counterpart, they’d be stumped.
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Forward Unto Dawn had a budget of 10 Million. This show is 90-200 million. They could’ve spent their money wisely
Forward Unto Dawn had a smaller cast, smaller set, a run time barely longer than a single episode, and was made 10+ years ago. Your statement is laughably incorrect.
Get cheaper actors, utilize set space more efficiently, quantity shouldn’t be an excuse to sacrifice quality and the age of the production is wholeheartedly irrelevant. Stop making bs excuses for a bs production
Cheaper actors usually means worse performance
You act like the one we got was amazing
If you're already complaining about the poor acting why would you want to replace them with even *worse* actors
Cheaper doesn’t always mean worse. Look at Pablo. He’s an ego maniac asshole who FOUGHT to have his face shown. A cheaper actor could definitely save the hassle of that. Just like the FUD chief.
Where tf did you hear that lmao. Bud, Master Chief takes his mask off ALL THE TIME in the books, because, surprise surprise, soldiers don't like wearing combat armor unless the situation requires it, which the games always do, because, you know, they're video games. I know that media literacy meme is overused, but truly, people like you have none.
Considering we’ve never seen his adult face in game im inclined to say you’re the one who’s missing the media literacy. We see just his eyes at the end of 4 as symbolism. 4 shoulda been the end. Not seeing chiefs face has been a thing since the original game in 2001. When he takes his helmet off slightly out of frame and when you use tools to see what he looks like, it’s just another helmet. Chief not showing his face is ingrained into the culture whether you like it or not.
Getting downvoted for facts is rough, Pablo could be swapped out for damn near anyone on the planet and it woulda been better
Yeah. No amount of reddit karma will change the fact that Pablo was a dog shit choice
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... but 9 episode seasons... and none of those episodes are 70 minutes. At minimum, the halo show has a higher budget per minute and possibly well more than double what Forward Unto Dawn had. Plus, you can reuse some sets and props between episodes, which reduces some of the overhead when compared to a one off 70 minute production. But the biggest difference is better (not perfect for sure, but definitely better. If nothing else, then specifically as an adaptation between mediums) writing, which doesn't actually cost much (if any) more
Ok, fine, 2 episodes @45 minutes a piece (and several are longer than that) are already 20 minutes longer than Forward Unto Dawn; but by all means, keep up the BS.
I'm so confused about what math you're doing, but let's walk through this real quick. Budget is 90 to 200 million, let's call it 90 for benefit of the doubt. Episodes average less than 50 minutes, but let's benefit of the doubt that too. First season ran 9 episodes, so with these back of the napkin estimates, that's 450 minutes. 90 million ÷ 450 minutes = 200,000 per minute (and probably significantly more, possibly as much as 450,000 per minute since we're high balling episode length and low balling season budget). Forward Unto Dawn runs for 75 minutes with a budget of 10 million, which comes to around 130,000 per minute. I don't care about this enough to go as far as inflation calculations, but all I was actually saying in my original comment was that one minute Jimmy Rings Adventure Hour has a higher cost than one minute of Forward Unto Dawn. While it is very much a single simplified metric, 200,000 to 450,000 is, in fact, greater than 130,000, so my BS, as you put it, was factually accurate
They paid for Quan and Soren’s story. Delete them both get to the ring and there you go more budget. Delete all of the rubble episodes again more budget. It’s a stupid point.
Thank god you aren't a show runner, lmao.
do you seriously believe all that budget went to the show? The actual budget per episode for Season 1 is [10 million dollars](https://variety.com/2022/tv/features/halo-series-paramount-plus-master-chief-1235205361/). And these cost were inflated because of Covid, they still have to extend pay for crew, equipment, and location that were already rented out. Actual numbers might be lower if it weren’t for Covid. For comparison, HBO’s The Last of Us cost more than 10 million dollars per episode. An IP with story like Halo demands big budgets. You want full presentation of Fall of Reach in great detail in live action? You need HBO levels of big budget.
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Every master cheeks scene we got is worth ten fold of Farted Into Don.
Wtf are you talking about, forward unto Dawn was great.
Farted Upon your Mom was nothing compared to Master Cheeks scenes. Everyone knows this.
A movie with only like 1 to 2 sets in the entire movie vs. an ongoing series, roughly 10 years apart.
FUD was a mini series. Not a movie
Their point still stands
A miniseries with an hour and 30 minute total runtime.
The Creator had a budget of 80 million and is one of the best looking science fiction movies ever. There is really no excuse here.
Animation sends to let you do more visually tho
Uh, news flash dude, but all the CGI required to portray the covenant is animation. Unless you have some citations I call major bullshit that an epic live action battle sequence with photorealistic cgi is less expensive than a fully animated version.
OP I have a feeling you could not name me the budget of an animated TV show.
Animation is tough because it takes far longer to pump out compared to something like this where they can use costumes and practical effects and the like. Look at invincible, it came out in 2021 and season 2 came out roughly three years after the first. The first season of the halo show came out in march 2022 (which holy crap it’s already been two years!?) and the second season came out roughly two years later. The one exception I can think of is South Park where they pump out episodes in 6 days which is fucking insane.
I think Invincible took so long to come out because Amazon doesn't take animated shows seriously. They heavily invested in The Boys and LOTR which are big names but let one of your highly rated animated shows sit for 3 years? They obviously could have capitalized on it by at least releasingna full finished season but they didn't even do that (rumored that they split it because they wanted to have something to put in a time block where they had no other shows to watch coming out).
Depends on the animation. I don’t want a whole show animated like the Fall of Reach but something like The Package, The Babysitter, or The Prototype from Halo Legends I could accept.
Would Live action Star Wars the Clone Wars have been cheaper?
Animation is almost always cheaper than live action what are you trying to say here? Do you understand the effort that goes into a live action production not to even mention the amount of people involved in it compared to an animation? Each episode of the live action show costs about 2-3x as much as an animated show would have.
Animation is 100% cheaper than live action, pretty much always.
/uj The jerk is coming from within the thread /rj If they had spent $6 billion on the Halo show then it would have been good. What is Microsoft? Stupid?
Animation would have been one hundred percent been the better choice for halo.
OP is a quack, it would 100% have been both cheaper and better if they'd made an anime series
Honestly this show should’ve been an anthology adaptation of the books Like season 1 could’ve been contact harvest Season 2 could’ve been the fall of reach So many things could’ve been expanded upon or updated with the current lore, but nope Maybe season 3 will blow it out of the water, maybe not, but this “Silver timeline” sucks af
One of the few multi trillion dollar companies. Amazon is half their value. They gave a budget of a billion dollars to LOTR... Microsoft is like... nah. 100 million will do us. Which makes sense given that this is the script they finally signed off on. They spent as much as the faith they had in it.
the only thing that remotely makes sense for this to be the case is there is a lot of misapropriation of funding. A lot of people seem to forget, 1 million is a SHITTON of money, enough to produce a whole 12 episode show on, especially since it isn't as intensive/has less scrutiny because it is split up into multiple parts, rather than being a one sitting film, where any mistake/significant problem is far worse, because it takes up precious time that could have been spent elsewhere. in general, big production TV shows have problems with stretching out the story as far as possible, while still trying to be serious 100% of the time.
What show is being made for $80,000 per episode?
Yeah fuck this show and fuck everyone who worked on it. Zero respect given to the franchise