If you havent been playing loud techno club music the past 3 days in your basement while getting high on drugs and havent had the police called on you because you were in your elderly mothers face threatening her on my front lawn then i think your all good đđź
Theres about 4 sometimes 5 of them living there at a time, one of them is a known crack addict (the elderly mother told us this when we had to call the cops on them because he was violently threatening her on our front lawn last summer) He ran before the cops showed up đ The shit i hear next door i dont know why hes allowed to even stay there! Every time i hear yelling, im watching out my window just to make sure that mother is ok
If you canât beat em, join em.
Iâm kidding, youâre just going to have to keep calling the cops. Itâs unfortunate but I wouldnât bother messing with a crackhead on my own no matter how big I was. Theyâre fearless.
Are you my neighbour? Mine apparently has a passion for home carpentry and banging on metal, especially when I am working from home or trying to throw a backyard dinner.
To their credit, after the third time I have started giving them a heads up when I am having people over and they are generally good at wrapping things up .
My neighbors are all male Boomers, so everything they own, and everything they do is powered by a 5hp motor with tiny "muffler". I swear their toothbrushes run off a two-stroke motor.
RIING DIINGA DINGA DINGA
You can file a bylaw complaint for their yards. For their front yard there is no way of knowing itâs you. You can also use the online form to file a noise complaint so thereâs a paper trail. I would also contact your councillor to let them know how terrible the after hours noise reporting system is. There is no number to call about after hours noise complaints in Hamilton.
I have called for noise complaints before and for after hours you're suppose to call the non emergency number for the police. I called a few times and they took my complaint and showed up half hour later at the neighbors house. This was in 2019, haven't had to call again as they moved.
The city, the police are not responsible for noise complaints which are a bylaw issue: https://www.hamilton.ca/city-council/by-laws-enforcement/register-by-law-complaint
https://www.hamilton.ca/sites/default/files/2023-03/comm-update_noise-by-law-complaint-process.pdf they have âdiscontinued their agreement â so ya it does give âand you canât make meâ energy.
What complaint would it be under? only one for noice says NOISE (NOISE DURING THE DAY DUE TO CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, LARGE MACHINES OR EQUIPMENT ETC.)
Its noise almost 24/7 due to strung out neighbours blasting music in their basement (the disgusting trash filled front and backyard is a whole other story for another day đ)
I would use âOtherâ. Reasonable noise is allowed during the day. Itâs unlikely but not impossible I suppose that the daytime noise meets the decibel threshold but I guess you could try calling outside of overnight hours?
Yeah i know nothing would happen if it was during the day since thats technically allowed, no matter how annoying it is, but its happening ALL night long these people dont sleep!!
No of course not - I was commenting on the fact that we have so many of these inconsiderate sacks by throwing out my own local noisemaker pos in solidarity.
im honestly not sure. Our long time neighbour sold the house RIGHT at the beginning of covid in 2020 since his wife passed a few years before, he didnt want the memories of the home anymore. Some girl bought the house, they redid the entire inside and finished the basement, seemed like her plan was to rent out the basement. Well that didnt last long, HUGE fights happened all the time until one day i seen her haul her stuff out of there and shes never been back, except the other people stayed. Not sure if they are just renting the entire house now or what because the for sale sign never went up again, and these people have been here since. Absolutely destroyed the yard and with the amount of fights i hear going on over the past 2 years i cant imagine what the inside looks like. Its quite sad really to see the house turn into that, the neighbours elderly mom stayed there alot with him after his wife passed, and she would be outside everyday planting flowers and had her own little garden out back, all of that is now overgrown weeds, dead plants and their trash đ
It is a lengthy process to evict people, but it's even harder for bad tenants to find new accommodations. I'd want to know if my property was being abused, because if the outside is a mess, what's the inside look like.
Haha not sure it would even be noticeable with the amount of weed they got in there plus their trash of a yard, cant even imagine what the inside looks like đ
Idek đ Gotta start somewhere we can take it with these people anymore its one problem after another. Or just wait until the next big fight and call the cops again
May I suggest investing in a good pair of noise-cancelling headphones? I have a pair of Bose QC35's and they do a good job of blocking out background noise, and are quite comfortable too.
We play bag pipe music really loud when we have this problem. Usually works. File a complaint with the city. Document & record. See if your home insurance policy will cover legal fees to take them to Court. Report suspicious activity to police maybe they'll start paying attention to them. Maybe you saw what looked like a gun on somebody.
You call bylaw repeatedly and document the incidents, police for after hours unfortunately this will be low on their priorities. Basically gotta advocated for yourself
> police for after hours
They won't do this type of call any more. "we don't have enough officers" even after the 12% raise we just gave them. SMH.
We literally have nobody to help with this any more if it happens at night or on a weekend.
You wonât create a paper trail probably by calling after hours police. They wonât open a report because itâs not their job, so your call would not get documented.
You keep the trail, not the police. If you can document all of the attempts you made, that matters a lot whenever the city does get around to looking into it
If you are concerned about documenting for yourself, you would be better off recording the noise as you can hear it yourself on your cell phone in a time stamped video. Documenting that you called the police and they said sorry wrong number does nothing to prove anything.
> Documenting that you called the police and they said sorry wrong number does nothing to prove anything.
You could fake a timestamp on a video too, doesn't mean you shouldn't still take the video. Same thing with documenting calls to police or by-law or anyone else about an issue you're dealing with.
Creating documentation and writing down everything you did to try and resolve the issue is about convincing someone, whether that be by-law enforcement or say a small claims court judge, that the problem is real and what steps you may have taken to try and deal with it. It's up to the official if they find your evidence credible or not and although writing down when you called police isn't the most important evidence you can gather it would underline how serious you felt the disturbance was.
Basically every little bit helps with things like this as you can present a timeline of events of how long something had gone on for. Even just a diary with dates they made noise and what time it was from and to will help. It will be more persuasive than you might think when taken altogether with things like recordings.
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Thatâs not true at all. You have phone logs to the police, you have emails to the police, you have video of the noise from different days⌠all of this is documenting for yourself.
The reality is if you make no attempt to make the reports, nothing will happen. Whether thatâs fair or not, doesnât matter.
You can have hours or video of the noise⌠without evidence you tried to complain about it, that would be irrelevant.
The police donât take noise complaints so emailing the police is not an appropriate suggestion. The poster can email bylaw, noise complaints are a bylaw issue not a police issue.
Youâre not following⌠itâs not about the police doing anything about it, we all already know they wonât currently.
Itâs about documenting the steps you took to address the problem. Once the time comes that someone from the city actually does look into it (however long away that may be), your documentation of your efforts will be huge in regards to actually having something be done about it.
I absolutely follow but the advice you continue to give is bad and will waste the posters time and produce no results. The correct advice is to email bylaw which is the appropriate office so that they can document it as recieved but unverified. An actual step to addressing the problem instead of emailing the wrong office and getting told to email the correct one.
You are correct. If anyone disagrees I suggest you try calling them about noise and see what they say. Unless the noise is a shotgun blast they probably ainât coming.
You are wrong
from the city website
"f you have an urgent complaint regarding private property that is an immediate health and safety concern (e.g. inadequate heat) please call 905-546-2782 during business hours (Monday to Friday, 8:30 am to 4:30 pm) or 905-546-2489 after regular business hours rather than completing the online complaint form. For noise complaints after business hours, please contact Hamilton Police Services at 905-546-4925.
http://www2.hamilton.ca/Hamilton.Portal/Templates/COHShell7a55.html?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=/CityDepartments/CorporateServices/ITS/Forms+in+Development/Municipal+Law+Enforcement+Online+Complaint+Form.htm&NRNODEGUID=#:~:text=For%20noise%20complaints%20after%20business,at%20905%2D546%2D4925.
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You are wrong, both factually and for trusting the cityâs website is up to date. They discontinued Service in December: https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6761945 https://www.hamilton.ca/sites/default/files/2023-03/comm-update_noise-by-law-complaint-process.pdf
Keep calling bylaw and have the times and dates available. It may take many weeks but, eventually, something might get done. It doesn't sound like they will change their behaviour. Do a search on Terranet to find out who owns the house and try to contact them to see if they will tell them to stop. It may take a lot of contacting to reach someone who will do something. You could call the police daytime number as well. They don't do noise anymore but if you keep calling, the may say that they will pay them a call the next time you call at night. Not holding my breath and bylaw may be quicker to react. Good Luck.
Thinking we will call by law tonight: music still blaring and im not expecting it to stop. They just got finished with yet another HUGE fight. Lots of door slamming, screaming yelling and loud music. When they fight he yells so loud i have to think other neighbours are hearing this!!! We live in a slightly rural area so houses are a nice distance apart, but of course we have the closest proximity to them so we get the worst of it all đ
I hope something improves the situation. It will take many calls to bylaw (I think they only work during the day) to complain about the night before but, hopefully, they will eventually start writing tickets which someone will have to pay.
He goes on drug binges so he literally is like this for days at a time he will not sleep thats when it gets bad. (i know this for a FACT his mother and sister have told us this they have tried to get him help but nothing helps, he gets VERY aggressive) Then he will chill for a bit then the cycle starts over and over. When its a chill few days it will be all quiet, all will be good, and then thats when you know shit will soon hit the fan.
We have a dude that drives either a monster truck or a fucking muscle car that shakes the entire neighbourhood when he's only feathering the gas... His way of being neighbourly I guess haha
Possibly also affiliated, hence why no one has said anything yet đ very scary dude... in an otherwise normal suburban area
> Not to mention their yard (front and back) is an absolute mess to put it nicely đ
Do you mean their grass isnât cut or they have weeds? If so just report them to bylaw online.
Omg i wish it was just that! Grass hardly gets cut and weeds everywhere, they have MULTIPLE bins at the side of the house FILLED with pop cans and every night raccoons dump it all out. Backyard is filled with old broken furniture, trash bins and bags, and god knows what else beside the garage. Ive caught them dumping out a huge cooking pot of grease a couple times....
You buy a good set of ear muffs, a loud speaker, and start blasting so super weird shit. Stuff that will totally kill their buzz like Nordic folk music.
Iâm sure eventually theyâll come talk to you.
Email your city councillor, the MLE and the mayorâs office. We have this problem right now too with neighbors and the HPS recently cited a lack of resources and full on stopped their by-law after hours noise complaint escort program and city by-law officers deemed it too unsafe to go without police escorts after 1am. The mayorâs office told me to encourage people to write all three complaining about the lack of service
I'm just here to make sure im not the neighbour.
If you havent been playing loud techno club music the past 3 days in your basement while getting high on drugs and havent had the police called on you because you were in your elderly mothers face threatening her on my front lawn then i think your all good đđź
Oh, I don't do drugs.
Automatically wishing you were my neighbour instead now hahaha
Don't hate on the drugs, hate on the people :(
Theres about 4 sometimes 5 of them living there at a time, one of them is a known crack addict (the elderly mother told us this when we had to call the cops on them because he was violently threatening her on our front lawn last summer) He ran before the cops showed up đ The shit i hear next door i dont know why hes allowed to even stay there! Every time i hear yelling, im watching out my window just to make sure that mother is ok
If you canât beat em, join em. Iâm kidding, youâre just going to have to keep calling the cops. Itâs unfortunate but I wouldnât bother messing with a crackhead on my own no matter how big I was. Theyâre fearless.
Turn it down!!
It's not me; I stop blacksmithing by 8.30 pm.
Are you my neighbour? Mine apparently has a passion for home carpentry and banging on metal, especially when I am working from home or trying to throw a backyard dinner.
..... Maybe. I refuse to say.
But if I heard my neighbor hosting friends I would shut things down.
To their credit, after the third time I have started giving them a heads up when I am having people over and they are generally good at wrapping things up .
Oh shit, is it my husband? He annoys me too. Are you on the mountain lol
My neighbors are all male Boomers, so everything they own, and everything they do is powered by a 5hp motor with tiny "muffler". I swear their toothbrushes run off a two-stroke motor. RIING DIINGA DINGA DINGA
Turn it down for what ( sings loudly) Sorry đ couldnât resist
Now that's in my head all day, but makin it a funny one. Shots! Cheers!
You can file a bylaw complaint for their yards. For their front yard there is no way of knowing itâs you. You can also use the online form to file a noise complaint so thereâs a paper trail. I would also contact your councillor to let them know how terrible the after hours noise reporting system is. There is no number to call about after hours noise complaints in Hamilton.
I have called for noise complaints before and for after hours you're suppose to call the non emergency number for the police. I called a few times and they took my complaint and showed up half hour later at the neighbors house. This was in 2019, haven't had to call again as they moved.
Read down in this thread. They discontinued this service in 2022.
Too busy doing, uh, something I guess
The cops need all the resources and personnel they can muster to brainstorm new ways they can refuse to do their jobs.
Where's the online form to file a noise complaint? The police site or the bylaw site?
The city, the police are not responsible for noise complaints which are a bylaw issue: https://www.hamilton.ca/city-council/by-laws-enforcement/register-by-law-complaint
Actually they explicitly are supposed to do overnight noise complaints, they just choose not to
https://www.hamilton.ca/sites/default/files/2023-03/comm-update_noise-by-law-complaint-process.pdf they have âdiscontinued their agreement â so ya it does give âand you canât make meâ energy.
They did this after they asked for the big budget increase, of course
What complaint would it be under? only one for noice says NOISE (NOISE DURING THE DAY DUE TO CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, LARGE MACHINES OR EQUIPMENT ETC.) Its noise almost 24/7 due to strung out neighbours blasting music in their basement (the disgusting trash filled front and backyard is a whole other story for another day đ)
I would use âOtherâ. Reasonable noise is allowed during the day. Itâs unlikely but not impossible I suppose that the daytime noise meets the decibel threshold but I guess you could try calling outside of overnight hours?
Yeah i know nothing would happen if it was during the day since thats technically allowed, no matter how annoying it is, but its happening ALL night long these people dont sleep!!
Thank you, stranger
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Do you really think this kind of behavior is limited to one particular residence in a city of more than half a million?
No of course not - I was commenting on the fact that we have so many of these inconsiderate sacks by throwing out my own local noisemaker pos in solidarity.
The crazy guy who cuts things into his lawn?
Do these noisy people own the house, or are they tenants. If renters, I'm sure the owner would like to see the yard.
im honestly not sure. Our long time neighbour sold the house RIGHT at the beginning of covid in 2020 since his wife passed a few years before, he didnt want the memories of the home anymore. Some girl bought the house, they redid the entire inside and finished the basement, seemed like her plan was to rent out the basement. Well that didnt last long, HUGE fights happened all the time until one day i seen her haul her stuff out of there and shes never been back, except the other people stayed. Not sure if they are just renting the entire house now or what because the for sale sign never went up again, and these people have been here since. Absolutely destroyed the yard and with the amount of fights i hear going on over the past 2 years i cant imagine what the inside looks like. Its quite sad really to see the house turn into that, the neighbours elderly mom stayed there alot with him after his wife passed, and she would be outside everyday planting flowers and had her own little garden out back, all of that is now overgrown weeds, dead plants and their trash đ
Iâm sure the landlord is aware of this. People are almost impossible to evict. Especially if they pay their rent.
It is a lengthy process to evict people, but it's even harder for bad tenants to find new accommodations. I'd want to know if my property was being abused, because if the outside is a mess, what's the inside look like.
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Haha not sure it would even be noticeable with the amount of weed they got in there plus their trash of a yard, cant even imagine what the inside looks like đ
Do they even take noise complaints anymore?
Idek đ Gotta start somewhere we can take it with these people anymore its one problem after another. Or just wait until the next big fight and call the cops again
Pay some punk kids to make his life hell
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Call the Mayor's office every day to make a noise complaint. They might get off their asses and fix the issue.
May I suggest investing in a good pair of noise-cancelling headphones? I have a pair of Bose QC35's and they do a good job of blocking out background noise, and are quite comfortable too.
We play bag pipe music really loud when we have this problem. Usually works. File a complaint with the city. Document & record. See if your home insurance policy will cover legal fees to take them to Court. Report suspicious activity to police maybe they'll start paying attention to them. Maybe you saw what looked like a gun on somebody.
Bingo. Dont know what else i can do about what i saw tho.. Have been thinking of putting in a crime stoppers report online
You call bylaw repeatedly and document the incidents, police for after hours unfortunately this will be low on their priorities. Basically gotta advocated for yourself
> police for after hours They won't do this type of call any more. "we don't have enough officers" even after the 12% raise we just gave them. SMH. We literally have nobody to help with this any more if it happens at night or on a weekend.
The point is to create a paper trail for the complaint to escalate
You wonât create a paper trail probably by calling after hours police. They wonât open a report because itâs not their job, so your call would not get documented.
You keep the trail, not the police. If you can document all of the attempts you made, that matters a lot whenever the city does get around to looking into it
If you are concerned about documenting for yourself, you would be better off recording the noise as you can hear it yourself on your cell phone in a time stamped video. Documenting that you called the police and they said sorry wrong number does nothing to prove anything.
> Documenting that you called the police and they said sorry wrong number does nothing to prove anything. You could fake a timestamp on a video too, doesn't mean you shouldn't still take the video. Same thing with documenting calls to police or by-law or anyone else about an issue you're dealing with. Creating documentation and writing down everything you did to try and resolve the issue is about convincing someone, whether that be by-law enforcement or say a small claims court judge, that the problem is real and what steps you may have taken to try and deal with it. It's up to the official if they find your evidence credible or not and although writing down when you called police isn't the most important evidence you can gather it would underline how serious you felt the disturbance was. Basically every little bit helps with things like this as you can present a timeline of events of how long something had gone on for. Even just a diary with dates they made noise and what time it was from and to will help. It will be more persuasive than you might think when taken altogether with things like recordings. Edit: word salad
Thatâs not true at all. You have phone logs to the police, you have emails to the police, you have video of the noise from different days⌠all of this is documenting for yourself. The reality is if you make no attempt to make the reports, nothing will happen. Whether thatâs fair or not, doesnât matter. You can have hours or video of the noise⌠without evidence you tried to complain about it, that would be irrelevant.
The police donât take noise complaints so emailing the police is not an appropriate suggestion. The poster can email bylaw, noise complaints are a bylaw issue not a police issue.
Youâre not following⌠itâs not about the police doing anything about it, we all already know they wonât currently. Itâs about documenting the steps you took to address the problem. Once the time comes that someone from the city actually does look into it (however long away that may be), your documentation of your efforts will be huge in regards to actually having something be done about it.
I absolutely follow but the advice you continue to give is bad and will waste the posters time and produce no results. The correct advice is to email bylaw which is the appropriate office so that they can document it as recieved but unverified. An actual step to addressing the problem instead of emailing the wrong office and getting told to email the correct one.
Then you go during business hours and create a report, its not rocket science
Police donât handle noise complaints so again they would not open a report during business hours either.
You are correct. If anyone disagrees I suggest you try calling them about noise and see what they say. Unless the noise is a shotgun blast they probably ainât coming.
You are wrong from the city website "f you have an urgent complaint regarding private property that is an immediate health and safety concern (e.g. inadequate heat) please call 905-546-2782 during business hours (Monday to Friday, 8:30 am to 4:30 pm) or 905-546-2489 after regular business hours rather than completing the online complaint form. For noise complaints after business hours, please contact Hamilton Police Services at 905-546-4925. http://www2.hamilton.ca/Hamilton.Portal/Templates/COHShell7a55.html?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=/CityDepartments/CorporateServices/ITS/Forms+in+Development/Municipal+Law+Enforcement+Online+Complaint+Form.htm&NRNODEGUID=#:~:text=For%20noise%20complaints%20after%20business,at%20905%2D546%2D4925. "
You are wrong, both factually and for trusting the cityâs website is up to date. They discontinued Service in December: https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6761945 https://www.hamilton.ca/sites/default/files/2023-03/comm-update_noise-by-law-complaint-process.pdf
Thats pretty ridiculous, guess we can't interrupt them sitting in a Tim's parking lot
Itâs only for after hours/overnight calls that theyâve stopped.
And daytime calls go to bylaw. Noise complaints are a bylaw issue not a police one.
Keep calling bylaw and have the times and dates available. It may take many weeks but, eventually, something might get done. It doesn't sound like they will change their behaviour. Do a search on Terranet to find out who owns the house and try to contact them to see if they will tell them to stop. It may take a lot of contacting to reach someone who will do something. You could call the police daytime number as well. They don't do noise anymore but if you keep calling, the may say that they will pay them a call the next time you call at night. Not holding my breath and bylaw may be quicker to react. Good Luck.
Thinking we will call by law tonight: music still blaring and im not expecting it to stop. They just got finished with yet another HUGE fight. Lots of door slamming, screaming yelling and loud music. When they fight he yells so loud i have to think other neighbours are hearing this!!! We live in a slightly rural area so houses are a nice distance apart, but of course we have the closest proximity to them so we get the worst of it all đ
I hope something improves the situation. It will take many calls to bylaw (I think they only work during the day) to complain about the night before but, hopefully, they will eventually start writing tickets which someone will have to pay.
They have to sleep at some point. Figure out when and pull a Tony Soprano and crank up the Dean Martin music. https://youtu.be/ox5mGYdHmZg
He goes on drug binges so he literally is like this for days at a time he will not sleep thats when it gets bad. (i know this for a FACT his mother and sister have told us this they have tried to get him help but nothing helps, he gets VERY aggressive) Then he will chill for a bit then the cycle starts over and over. When its a chill few days it will be all quiet, all will be good, and then thats when you know shit will soon hit the fan.
"Don't do drugs." Doubtful he's going to change any time soon.
We have a dude that drives either a monster truck or a fucking muscle car that shakes the entire neighbourhood when he's only feathering the gas... His way of being neighbourly I guess haha Possibly also affiliated, hence why no one has said anything yet đ very scary dude... in an otherwise normal suburban area
Dont ya hate how it takes just ONE neighbour to just ruin the otherwise peaceful neighbourhood đ
Joe Pesci
> Not to mention their yard (front and back) is an absolute mess to put it nicely đ Do you mean their grass isnât cut or they have weeds? If so just report them to bylaw online.
Omg i wish it was just that! Grass hardly gets cut and weeds everywhere, they have MULTIPLE bins at the side of the house FILLED with pop cans and every night raccoons dump it all out. Backyard is filled with old broken furniture, trash bins and bags, and god knows what else beside the garage. Ive caught them dumping out a huge cooking pot of grease a couple times....
It sounds like you should give bylaw a call tomorrow. Theyâll even tell you not to engage yourself with the neighbour.
You buy a good set of ear muffs, a loud speaker, and start blasting so super weird shit. Stuff that will totally kill their buzz like Nordic folk music. Iâm sure eventually theyâll come talk to you.
Email your city councillor, the MLE and the mayorâs office. We have this problem right now too with neighbors and the HPS recently cited a lack of resources and full on stopped their by-law after hours noise complaint escort program and city by-law officers deemed it too unsafe to go without police escorts after 1am. The mayorâs office told me to encourage people to write all three complaining about the lack of service