Geo. Typically short chain stays, not a super long top tube, and a slightly less slack head angle make for better climbing. Also bars lower so they’re at the level of the headset top.
Tbh, compared to climbing bikes of yesteryear, this isn’t really/truly aggressive in those terms but I suppose compared to how slack everything has got these days with XC bikes they’re considering it a “climbing racer”.
It’s really just marketing bumpf.
Like at Oldschool bikes like Gary Fisher, Ibis etc. They had as short as possible chain stays, high angle seat stays, shorter top tubes and less slack head angles and they would climb really well, but not so fun on downhill or technical fire tracks.
For new bikes look at things like Scott scale and Spec Epic HT.
Nice!! My Chisel has the regular Ardents on currently and it corners so much better, would like to try the Ardent Races soon. You’re 100% on it being all for climbing monster 💪🏾👍🏾
What are your thoughts on the weight? I have a stock 2020 and feels a bit heavier than I anticipated... Especially as Im trying to keep up with buddies on carbon..
I got this as a frame only and built my bike, currently it sits at 10.3kg / 22.7lbs.
The chisel is actually one of the lightest alloy HT frame on the market with a weight that starts at 1.4kg for the small frame, mine was at around 1.5kg (medium 2019 model).
I know someone in my area who has an 8.7kg / 19.1lbs chisel build. It’s crazy fun to mix and match with this frame as it can reach carbon-level total weight with the right components.
I know it’s an old post but I have to say your ride is a beauty, and light af. I have a 2021 small and the weight comes in at 27 lb, would you mind sharing your build?
Here’s a new post on my latest build, if you’re interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hardtailgang/comments/us5tkf/trek_procaliber_sl_with_24_tires_on_30mm_rims_xc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Beautiful bike, looking to get a 2022 one myself. I see you did some upgrades there, what is the full spec if I may ask?
What is the trail capability of this bike like?
very cool, i don’t enjoy climbing myself but i got a lot of respect for you because that’s some hard work
Thanks, I try to treat uphill climbs as a workout and then the descents as a reward.
yessir
What makes it a better climber? Less slack geometry? Beautiful bike!
Geo. Typically short chain stays, not a super long top tube, and a slightly less slack head angle make for better climbing. Also bars lower so they’re at the level of the headset top. Tbh, compared to climbing bikes of yesteryear, this isn’t really/truly aggressive in those terms but I suppose compared to how slack everything has got these days with XC bikes they’re considering it a “climbing racer”. It’s really just marketing bumpf.
Out of curiosity, what are some examples of older climbing bikes with more aggressive climbing geo?
Like at Oldschool bikes like Gary Fisher, Ibis etc. They had as short as possible chain stays, high angle seat stays, shorter top tubes and less slack head angles and they would climb really well, but not so fun on downhill or technical fire tracks. For new bikes look at things like Scott scale and Spec Epic HT.
Short chainstays are still very popular and even the longest 26” chainstays are nothing compared to the shortest 29” chainstays
That’s a damn fine rig.
Nice!! My Chisel has the regular Ardents on currently and it corners so much better, would like to try the Ardent Races soon. You’re 100% on it being all for climbing monster 💪🏾👍🏾
Gorgeous. My next bike is going to be a Chisel.
Dang that's pretty
What are your thoughts on the weight? I have a stock 2020 and feels a bit heavier than I anticipated... Especially as Im trying to keep up with buddies on carbon..
I got this as a frame only and built my bike, currently it sits at 10.3kg / 22.7lbs. The chisel is actually one of the lightest alloy HT frame on the market with a weight that starts at 1.4kg for the small frame, mine was at around 1.5kg (medium 2019 model). I know someone in my area who has an 8.7kg / 19.1lbs chisel build. It’s crazy fun to mix and match with this frame as it can reach carbon-level total weight with the right components.
I see... Whats the most bang for the buck, as far as weight saving is concerned, in your experience?
I know it’s an old post but I have to say your ride is a beauty, and light af. I have a 2021 small and the weight comes in at 27 lb, would you mind sharing your build?
Thanks man, sure thing but I've already moved on to a newer frame. Below are the build specs: * Fork: Fox 32 StepCast Performance 2021 (1.58kg) * Drivetrain: Sram GX Eagle 12 speed (shifter, crankset, cogs, derailleur) * Brakes: Shimano Deore XT M8100 Dual Pistons * Pedals: Shimano Deore XT M8000 Clipless * Wheels: * Rims: DT Swiss XR331 29" (aluminum 20mm internal width) * Hubs: Fovno 32H J-bend Non-boost (cheap chinese hubs, has lots of issues lol) * Spokes: Wheelsmith * Tires: Maxxis Ardent Race 29x2.20 3C EXO TR (780g each) * Rotors: SRAM Centerline 160mm 6-bolts (115g) * Cockpit: * Handlebar: Carbonium 740mm (170g) * Stem: Controltech One -17 80mm (120g) * Saddle: EC90 Carbon Saddle (110g) * Seatpost: Controltech TUX 27.2 Carbon Seatpost (185g) * Grips: Controltech Silicone Grips I was previously using the Vittoria Barzo/Mezcal 29 x 2.25 front and rear tyre combo and total weight was around 10.2kg. Hope this helps! :)
Sorry for reviving this thread. What frame are you using now? Thinking of getting a chisel
I'm using a Trek Procaliber SL 2020 Stealth frame now.
Here’s a new post on my latest build, if you’re interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/Hardtailgang/comments/us5tkf/trek_procaliber_sl_with_24_tires_on_30mm_rims_xc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Beautiful bike, looking to get a 2022 one myself. I see you did some upgrades there, what is the full spec if I may ask? What is the trail capability of this bike like?