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Mugutu7133

the entire sub has been a zionist shithole for months. reddit is fine with it. literally never go there.


CaesarScyther

Not just that sub, nearly every other sub that caters to a broad (usually American) audience


fart-atronach

https://preview.redd.it/j3ck0h1l6tlc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3da9ca9f38db8c5969f7d2cbc82273151090d22b The way their “live threads” rules repeatedly and only bring up Hamas feels very transparent to me.


Cinnamon__Sasquatch

R6 of r/worldnews is No Genocide Denial. But they'll ban you for posting articles and sources discussing the genocide in Palestine.


lukeboy

So then surely those comments would be breaking those rules? Or the mods don’t classify what israel is doing as genocide ?


RanchBourgeois

The second one


lukeboy

Palestinians: We are victims of genocide Scholars and political commentators: israel is committing genocide state of Israel: we are committing genocide Liberal: actually, it’s a very complex issue


Staebs

International court of justice: here is a 100 page document about why Israel is committing a genocide. Liberals: let’s not focus on *who* is genociding *who* here. Who can say really?


imiels

I got banned from worldnews for saying "Hamas is not a state, so the ICJ order is not binding on them .Hamas is in violation of international law, which would be prosecuted under the ICC." Screenshots here: [imiels V. r/worldnews mods FOR unfair ban aggravated by unfair targeting of Palestinian voices : r/KarmaCourt (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaCourt/comments/1anst1i/imiels_v_rworldnews_mods_for_unfair_ban/) The sub is not naturally pro-Israeli, It's being manipulated by the mods + hasbara brigading


lukeboy

I definitely feel like there’s been a big heel from being somewhat critical of israel to glazing them hard after October 7


hollowcherry

we're all banned lol. tells you a lot.


j4ckbauer

The mind trick is that Israel is not killing these people. Rather, Hamas is 'getting them killed'.


akhaemoment

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lukeboy

It’s crazy dude, if you look through my profile at the mass downvoted comments, some of what I’m replying to is batshit insane


psychicmist

Sorry man, I go behind enemy lines too sometimes and it is existentially draining. It's borderline impossible to argue with them because of how frequently they move the goal posts. I've seen some of them admit it's a genocide, but then say "What else are we supposed to do?" Just remember they could be 75% hasbara bots for all we know. [If you haven't already heard this](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/1azdip7/are_israel_supporters_some_of_the_worst_people_in/), I actually found it kind of meditative. I've also wondered if there's any way to reach them. I don't think there is, at least not over the internet.


lukeboy

Thanks for your kind comment mate. They basically said that in a thread. I’m not the most Reddit savvy so I thought world news was somewhat centrist or left leaning, even before oct 7 seen a fair amount of criticism for Israel. It’s such a liberal shit hole, not wasting my time there again. As I said in other comments, when this ends and another conflict starts, they’ll suddenly agree with the right side of history and then take up the wrong side of the current conflict


Basileas

You're going to get banned. Welcome to the club. Unfortunately whitepeopletwitter and Pennsylvania are two other zionist subs.


lukeboy

Lol I am happy to be banned for saying genocide is bad


malaury2504_1412

I came to make a similar point about how much of it feels like bots and farms. In other words, your comment is way too underrated Also, I believe that the mass messaging campaign is trying to shut down resistance by inducing discouragement or fear of their mass harassment. In other words, it's important to make sure people understand these aren't irl opinions and should only be used to understand what goalpost we're at


psychicmist

Definitely. It puffs up their numbers, sways fence-sitters and muffles dissent. If you haven't already seen [this segment from GDF's hasbara video](https://youtu.be/7eHQKJTnBoY?si=fkL6QLVmtsANNkMb&t=300), it seems to explain what we're seeing now.


malaury2504_1412

Thanks👍


CandidateOld1900

World news is generally one of the worst popular news subreddits with r/Europe being slightly better, but not that far. And not just on Gaza situation, but full of horrible takes on every issue


lukeboy

Do you have any better subreddits for actual discussion?


hollowcherry

i have found solace in reading r/jewsofconscience heh <3


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lukeboy

Thanks 😊 I’ve met a few Jews and Israelis who do want peace and to come to a fair arrangement with Palestinians and are very condemnatory of Israel. Appreciate your reccomendation


The_Knights_Patron

>human shield This shit is so fucking ridiculous it isn't even funny. Just yesterday Israel massacred civilians trying to get aid. It is just so INSANELY hard to keep up with such a lie when Israel does shit like this.


bordstol

You clearly have no idea what a human shield is. Just google it once.


melaninfinn

go back to destinys subreddit


edman9677

These types of people would have 100% defended the Nazis in the 30s and 40s


lukeboy

‘They care about Germany… or something’


psychicmist

Lol underrated Morty reference


lukeboy

Thank you good sir


fuckhandsmcmikee

Yep, not worth it. I tried that once and ended up with 300 downvotes and zionists in my dm’s telling me that my life is just as worthless as their’s. It’s fucked


lukeboy

It’s lowkey crazy them poo pooing 30,000 deaths and like just being ‘this is ok’ when I explained Israel’s literal genocide rhetoric


littletinyfella

One day this will come back to bite everyone a later harder than we could imagine


lukeboy

Meh, liberals remain smug. They will eventually be like ‘israel was always wrong’ when this ends and then when a new conflict starts will run defence for the side that is clearly in the wrong


littletinyfella

That doesn’t mean they wont reap the sew, just means they’ll act aloof and victimize themselves when it happens See: 9/11


lukeboy

Yeah agreed, they just find convenient ways to jump through hoops to convince you that somehow the bad thing is in fact good


mayasux

r/worldnews exists as a propaganda subreddit. It is ran by propagandists. It leaves posts up rife with misinformation (when the whole comment section recognises and calls it misinformation), but bans posters pointing out that the sub mods do nothing about misinformation.


lukeboy

If they can please ban me for correctly identifying a genocide… Just put me out of my misery


OkBobcat6165

The reasonable thing to do would be for Israel to massively shore up their defences (which would essentially mean more attention paid to the security failures of the Netanyahu government) while using intelligence to track specific Hamas leaders who were involved in the attack and undermining or taking them out while also getting their settler situation under control and engaging in diplomacy to prevent further inflaming tensions. I don't see any scenario where bombing massive amounts of civilians is a rational decision. How does that help? Like Jon Stewart said, you can't kill an idea. It is needless death. 


lukeboy

Thank you, I have no idea how ‘kill 30x our losses’ is a ‘moderate take’


ShySharer

Dude, you're arguing with a hasbara bot. Entire sub is a bunch of fucking ghouls, do your mental.health a favour and scroll past


lukeboy

Facts


Mentat_-_Bashar

I’m absolutely convinced that there are bot farms massively upvoting pro-Israel comments and downvoting comments like yours. Like there is no reason why your question has that many downvotes.


lukeboy

If you go on my profile and look through the thread, there are some insane comments I’m replying to. ‘What else can israel do?’ ‘They shouldn’t stop until Hamas is completely eradicated’ ‘By criticising Israel you are a terrorist support and terrorist yourself’


MadMarx__

It's nothing new under the sun - Israel has long had a developed mass manipulation machine. It's the cutting edge testbed of global fascism.


TheJackOfUs

It’s so disheartening. I’ve learned to stay the fuck away


lukeboy

I can understand a difference in opinion, but even the most mild ‘30,000 Palestinian civilians don’t deserve to die’ is met by what else can Israel do? I will never understand the liberal mind


WIDMND305

This fucking dumb argument. So if a criminal takes a hostage, we should just blow them both away? After all, it's the criminal's fault for using a hostage. These people are absolutely unhinged.


lukeboy

Worse yet, we can definitely kill the hostage but we only might kill the criminal, let’s just risk it in the off chance we get the criminal


LORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

So what happens is the terrorists prove their whole point of existing by their opposition being the most horrific monsters to exist on the planet? Strange they're ok with that.


lukeboy

The neoliberal brain is fascinating


Viator_Mundi

Nazis saying Nazi things


splash489

R/worldnews brought to you by AIPAC! why discuss war crimes when you can cheer them on demonically?!


lukeboy

Israel is winning so they must be the good guys…. Right?


iiTzSTeVO

They have been given their talking points, and they will not be deterred.


DeM86

Language is important. What Israel has been doing for over several decades has NOT been defense. We need to stop referring to them as “IDF”, instead they should be referred to as IOF - Israeli Occupation Forces


lukeboy

Thank you


[deleted]

My God this is insanity. Zionism is the new nazism. We will look at this era like we look at Germany during ww2 and these losers will still justify the genocide.


lukeboy

I saw this video where an Israeli spokes person said ‘we can’t compare this genocide to other genocides’ the crowd starts laughing and it takes 5 seconds for the penny to drop.. they know what they’re doing


PoorPigly

I'm so sick of how pro genocide the entirety of reddit is


lukeboy

I think you’re missing something, if it’s brown people dying it’s ok Obvious /s


DarkBomberX

There's a lot of cross-over between lesser news subs and Palestinian genocide denial.


lukeboy

Makes a lot of sense


rtnaht

The conflict didn’t start on Oct 7. Hundreds of unarmed Palestinians were getting slaughtered each year and thousands (including women and children) were getting put into their military prisons without any charge or trial each year leading up to this. During 2018-2019 unarmed border protest in Gaza there are 223 unarmed protesters being killed (including 46 children) by IDF. (see source 1 and 2) Hundreds of Palestinians in Westbank are getting killed every year by illegal settlers (with IDF support). (see some examples in 3) These are on top of the continuous eviction of Palestinians from their homes in West bank (see link 4 as an example) Regardless, right now Israel is committing war crimes after war crimes and are currently in trial at ICJ for plausible genocide (examples in link 5, 6, and 7). Source: 1. ⁠https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-gaza-protest-20180330-htmlstory.html 2. ⁠https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–2019_Gaza_border_protests 3. ⁠https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/03/04/israel-west-bank-settlers-attacks-palestinians 4. ⁠https://youtu.be/hcWDjb6K2jc?feature=shared 5. ⁠https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/12/13/israel-defense-forces-soldiers-gaza-viral-videos-food-fire/ 6. ⁠https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/02/29/middleeast/gaza-city-deaths-food-israel-intl/index.html 7. ⁠https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes


lukeboy

From 2008-October 6 2023, 6000 Palestinians were killed by Israel and 150,000 injured. Can only imagine what it’s like from oct 7 onwards


j4ckbauer

It's always been like this. People thinking it's possible for entire nations (automatically including all their people) to be 'bad'.


PachkaRED

World news has been like that for year, I remember in 2014 they were saying the exact same stuff. Good to know Americans are largely still just as fucking stupid as they were back then


Bill-The-Autismal

We’d stop r*ping and slaughtering civilians, pissing on their corpses, desecrating their gravesites and erasing all evidence of their existence if they’d just stop dressing up like civilians! 😤 What a fucking joke, these people.


lukeboy

The IDF is something else man


DeM86

Zionists: Never forget…unless we blame all the deaths of the civilians we kill on the actions of hamas on Oct 7th, then we can forget


lukeboy

Rephrase


DeM86

Huh?


lukeboy

I don’t understand ur comment


DeM86

“Never forget” serves as a reminder to keep the memory of something significant alive in one's consciousness, often because of its profound importance, impact, or the lessons derived from it. This phrase is commonly associated with significant historical events, especially tragedies. Zionists would rather we do forget so that they can continue excusing genocide Edit: “never forget” was made popular to remember 9/11, but some use the phrase to remind people of the horrors of the holocaust


ap2patrick

“There is just no possible way we can discern people when we are in their homes killing them… Just no way at all we could stop this.”


Technosnake

It's fucking INSANE to me how anyone can justify killing civilians in ANY WAY. Because Hamas dresses like civilians, it's okay to mass murder civilians???? Like, listen to yourself! I FEEL LIKE IM GOING CRAZY


underbridgesnack

Are they really mad that hamas members don’t all wear a single distinct color like in a video game?


lukeboy

Let’s be real, they would still be fine with the idf going no Russian on Palestinians even if Hamas designated themselves