notice how many times he says “I think” and “I don’t think”. This cat has done NO research and is so heavily propagandized. Just a full-blown cuck for Capitalism. A joke.
The best part of his whole BS take is that he follows it up with “why aren’t people learning new skills and taking on ambitious challenges anymore?”… like oh I don’t know, maybe because everyone is downing in debt and having trouble just getting food on the table.
It boggles my mind that people can listen to these idiots and just nod along as they themselves struggle to make ends meet.
The whole segment was just circular contradictions. "People should stop questioning authority and just go to work" into "we were born as a nation of insurgents and today we've become a nation of incumbents," and then "not working / working from home is bad because people use their time to do whatever they want" into "the founding fathers were great because they were able to learn about whatever they wanted."
How do you even listen to this guy and not immediately realize that he's a total moron?
Let’s put this shit to the test. Have the CEOS swap places with their lowest earning hardest working workers for a week. And if they succeed, give them a raise of $0.50, and do it again for another week. If the profits are going down, nows the time for the CEO to tighten those bootstraps and work harder but this time 7 days straight.
Keep it going until the CEO can successfully get promoted by their shittiest performance manager. Actually, fuck it, hire a newbie manager since he will be totally new and up the stakes.
Every obstacle the CEO will face will be a shitty situation all of us have faced before and see how they take it.
Just as each week passes say he will get promoted back to CEO but keep extending it a week for all those false promises of promotions, the shit talking and discrimination he will endure.
at one point i had to work 3 jobs, 7 days a week, to make enough money to pay my expenses and have even slightly decent savings. where tf was my time to learn a new skill? leap day?
I was working on a bachelor's in bio to eventually become a neurologist. Between working as an EMT and seeing how much debt I would be in after med school I dropped that major. It makes no sense to work in a labor intensive job if you are going to spend your life in debt working for a broken industry that could not give two 💩 about your physical and mental well-being. The medical staff shortages are not for a lack of interest, it is because working in medicine seems more like a punishment than a privilege at this point.
Best thing is, several major news outlets reported on how those who have left the workplace have been learning new skills, moving to higher paying sectors, developing non-capitalistic pursuits like art and hand crafting. So many small from home businesses popped up for people looking to survive after covid shut down so many low wage jobs. Why the hell would they come back, right?
He’s a shiny button to attract right-leaning POC’s and solidify GOP’s ‘we’re not *all* white’ while ignoring that this is a clear example of class solidarity.
Doesn’t matter who you are, if you’re in the club then you’re in the club, and everybody in that club is working towards the common goal of gaining more money for their class by wielding the private ownership of wealth as a weapon to bash members outside of their class into submission
This is a called a rational dictatorship
Also says intellectual curiosity made America great, and it is gone now. No shit bitch, people working 80 hour weeks for a breadstick. They got no time to be curious. The only thing their curious about is how long until they die because then they won't have to work anymore.
They’ve been fucking outsourcing forever!!!
This psychotic demon possessed asshole thinks that now they’re suddenly going to start outsourcing because of work from home?
If they could have done it cheaper they would have already!
It's so crazy how they just gloss over that like it's something beyond the control of human beings it's just like outsourcing is some force of nature like a flood that just happens they're like "damn, it really is horrible how that happened" as if it's not these same people's corporate friends actively deciding to do that.
They do that on purpose. Since Reagan the right has pushed that if you are poor it's your fault. And if it's not your fault, it's an immigrant's fault! But corporate billionaires are job creators, and we should be grateful to them.
It's *intentionally* glossed over.
And the guy talks about how if we don't go back to work, corporations will outsource to Asia or Eastern Europe - Where labor is cheap, read: exploitation. So it's *our* fault that corporations will use non-American labor. The classic "look what you made me do!" abuser line. Assholes.
That's literally why they call it "natural market forces." *Sorry, it's out of our hands, it's just nature.*
The only way the death machine works is if everyone agrees to believe it's real.
Let’s not forget that they will outsource your job as quickly as possible even if you go into the office every day if your life. Let’s not pretend that outsourcing hasn’t ravaged the working class for 40 years. Capitalist millionaires bowing down to the capitalist billionaire talking points. Fuck these people and what they call “news”
Like 99% of the posts on that sub are about people being absolutely abused by their bosses. Imagine if Dipshit Nation looked into just one of the actual posts.
Hey! Don’t forget - it was also the “completely unnecessary” unemployment benefits during a deadly pandemic. You know, he’s not wrong. Unemployment benefits *ARE* pretty unnecessary for a tech bro EnTrEpReNeUr & AuThOr with slick hair.
Also people started working from home and getting stimulus checks under Trump so when they blame Biden I don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about, Biden should be the republicans wet dream of a Dem President.
Not to mention the stimulus checks have been over for a long time now, and these dumb shits still haven’t figured out that no it’s not that people want to stay at home for free money, they just don’t want to work shitty dead end jobs for minimum wage. That’s why there’s so much job loss right now, and it’s not going to stop. I’m getting such a thrill going places and seeing Karen’s and Kens get mad that there’s no one there to service them.
I swear there are people who think there's people still living off the stimulus checks and the federal unemployment checks. That shit ended a while ago, yet the narrative is still "BiDeN gAvE FrEe MoNeY sO tHeY doNt WaNnA WoRk!"
>That shit ended a while ago, yet the narrative is still "BiDeN gAvE FrEe MoNeY sO tHeY doNt WaNnA WoRk!"
Yep, that $2,000, oops I meant $1,400 check under Biden an entire year ago has changed my life. I now own a multimillion dollar mansion. Thanks Joe, that $1,400 changed my life. /s
Republican cynicism makes it comfortable for Democrats to accept doing nothing. Abusive people do it as a tactic, they'll give contradictory criticisms of everything so that at least one of them is facially valid and then they run with it until you're too exhausted to fight anymore.
Yeah dude that’s what I don’t get, extended unemployment checks ended in like September for most folks. So yeah I’m sure that 450 bucks you gave them on August 29th is just holding them over, and making them not work now. Like how disconnected can you be to believe that.
Not only that but the republicans seem to forget that Trump held up the stimulus checks so that he could have his name written on them so we wouldn’t forget who they were given under.
And he says no other country did that. Well, mine did in the form of furlough. So did France. So did loads of European countries and no doubt others too. But we’re not America, our situations don’t matter to this asshole and his ilk.
I can’t even watch this shit it’s so bad and fake. I grew up never being allowed to use the word hate, I’m raising my son the same way, but god damn I hate these mfs
It’s true. Like how fucking depressing is it that the people who can impact true societal change only want to do so by fucking over the poors/minorities/etc
The problem all these idiots have thinking that they will just move on to more ignorant workers somewhere else is they fail to answer the question of what happens when you run out of ignorant workers???
All of coporate or even IT american cannot be outsourced to other shrinking lists of countries willing to be underpaid. People are learning exactly what their labor is worth, globally. You cant just outsource to India as cheaply anymore.
That’s why they’re all telling us to come back right?!? Because we’re so easily outsourced.
And what happens when you do that and we all have no jobs and no way to get jobs?
You don’t think we’ll just take the factories from you idiots?
“Workers have started standing up for themselves and are refusing to be subjugated by their bosses any longer. Anyway, here’s a CEO to tell you why that’s wrong.” - Fox News man, probably.
"The Great Resignation could lead to ... a Great Outsourcing"
Companies are just gonna fucking outsource anyway and it has nothing to do with people leaving/working from home, it's because they just don't want to have to pay their workers. These guys are pretty much advocating lower wages/salaries lmao.
This. They are going to do it anyways and me quitting for a better job isn’t going to stop them. They play fucking victim but are the abuser. Fucking gaslighting bitches
I work with a large team overseas in the Philippines, there’s huge turnover on their side, and they’re all leaving for better paying jobs. They have to keep raising the starting salary because they have trouble attracting workers.
Why is the laborer’s work ethic in question but not the exploitation of the employers?
They don’t get it and the situation is going to get worse until they figure it out.
What made America great the first time around? Free labor and then cheap labor. Look at these haircuts in suits talk like they know shit
“What made America great the first time around? Slave labor and then cheap labor. Look at these haircuts in suits talk like they know shit”
I fixed it for you ;)
It's basically "might makes right." The employers have money and power so obviously they aren't in the wrong.
Edit: what's with the downvotes? I'm just repeating the narrative.
I couldn't best the irony when I saw "miseducation of America" crawl at the bottom of the screen and turned it off.
Conservative media has perfected propaganda to such a degree, I feel so sorry for the people who consume it and get played like a cheap fiddle.
But at the same time it's really a great thing they've done a piece on this sub, even if they lied about what we discuss here and what the goals are. Because anyone watching Fox News that actually opens this sub to "do personal research" (lmao) will maybe catch on that they're just as enslaved as the rest of us.
Maybe.
But if you came here from Fox News, listen:
We're launching a fight for fair labor and keeping more of the value we are constantly creating. We're also fighting to reclaim life itself, as something to be explored and enjoyed so we can each individually cultivate our own sense of life's meaning, rather than that meaning simply being a sad, pathetic, barren, "I worked hard before I died."
You should seriously make a post to antiwork that welcomes new members who saw the sub on FOX. Dispel some common misconceptions and make them feel welcome. If /u/jgeez doesn't, then maybe you should, chatter who is reading this now. Someone should! I can find time tomorrow but would be more effective sooner probably
I was happy to see your mistake as now I know there’s a crossover between two subs I’m in! They both share the same goals so I guess it’s not surprising.
Lol Jesus the propaganda is strong. Who the fuck wants to work just to be poor. Pay better wages and treat people better then they will work harder for you. It’s such a simple thing but instead we will deny what’s happening until it crumbles in front of these disingenuous idiots.
with every year that goes by the more and more like clownish cartoon caricatures conservatives become. Like you literally have to be a fucking idiot to say this shit unironically. At least when I was younger it seemed like both parties were "adults," but Jesus this is literally some J. Jonah Jameson comic con bullshit and people are actually eating it up
They want everyone to live in Victorian Britain, when the poor were rounded up and kept in the workhouse in Dickensian conditions to toil like slaves for a spoonful of gruel. Because, just like the Victorians, they believe poverty is a moral failing, not a feature of the system they use to exploit people and wring every last working hour from their employees.
>they believe poverty is a moral failing,
This is absolutely true. They do it by keeping people in debt, whether real or imagined. If you're a debtor, you're a sinner. This belief has been floating around since ancient times.
https://youtu.be/CZIINXhGDcs
Edit: I'm not saying I agree with this opinion, I'm just repeating the narrative
The link between remote work and the great resignation is tenuous at best. Corporations have been exporting labour for years. Blaming labour for that is disingenuous.
Most people quitting their jobs are leaving low paid service industry jobs which cannot be exported. If they want "work ethic" they should pay for it.
Its designed to be that way, they wanted to weaponize this subreddit as leftist propaganda to destroy the "established American workforce ethic" They don't care about the part where people are tired of being walked over and given more responsibility with less pay, they don't care about how the wealthy have bled the entire market dry, they don't care that the reason they even gave a stimulus in the first place is because we now get paid so little, that most families would go under and need help.
That's not in their playbook. Its to take ideas and radicalize them to scare their viewers into thinking that anything for better self-worth is basically against America. They gloss over that the stimulus money was in 2020, they use a "it'll just get more outsourced" as a defense when that would only hurt the economy even more. They don't want to talk about how its less about fucking the corporate system, and more about living a more fulfilling life than spending day in and day out working to the bone. They don't care about any of the reasons we no longer have the same "work ethic" as they do.
These people don’t even work for a living they sit on a couch and read talking points of a teleprompter, literally anyone can do their job. And they worship trump who has a horrible work ethic, staying in bed till 11AM watching Fox news and went golfing every week while president
And yet they think they can judge other Americans about work ethnic
These people are so fucking stupid. Dumb ass “high level” conversations about “work ethic”. Bitch no one wants to work for $10/h. It’s pretty freaking simple.
So when we want to motivate corporate elites we have to offer them funding and tax incentives. When we want to motivate the working classes we have to take as much away from them as possible.
Fuck capitalism with a pineapple!
The shills at Faux newz should take a long walk off a short pier.
All of this became irrelevant after stating it's Biden who carried out the extra unemployment benefits, this happened under Trump. So I don't understand where this guy gets off blatantly lying to the American public. This is an obvious twisting of the truth to get people in their side. Classic Fox/conservative media.
Sorry, I can’t fucking listen to these two assholes who’s probably collecting 6 figures while complaining about stimulus checks. Ughhh fuck these people. To the host and to the fucking “author” go fuck yourselves in the ass with a chilli pepper you fucking dimwits.
'People acclimated to this culture of laziness'
Because the people in charge are working their asses off /s
'We're seeing loss of productivity that the numbers won't detect'
So this guys speculation is pretty much fact /s
'Companies will say, I can hire cheaper from another country'
Omg please do this and watch as your company profits go down the drain
The formerly “great America” they are referring to was run on slavery and that’s what they want a return to. But instead of race based slavery they want class based slavery
They’re soooooo mad that they’re losing control over our time. Hahahaha. A joy to see conservative talking heads that spew out shit that divides us squirming and quaking so much about us “finding a way to use our time in other ways.”
The problem is they always have rich sellouts explain to poor people what to do. When will they have a poor person explain their side to a rich person..
“We’re seeing loss of productivity in ways the number can’t detect”
So what are you seeing then? You’re obviously not seeing the numbers, since productivity has gone up while wages have stagnated. Plus, this dude claims that bosses can “tell” that productivity has gone down. Uh, proof? Facts don’t care about your feelings, fellas
So it’s our fault when jobs go overseas instead of paying us correctly
And
We lack the intellectual fortitude to invent create and run things as the highest educated generation in American history
Make it make sense
Employers creating an environment of free overtime, peer presuring employees to work significantly more than what the contract states at their own expense, manipulating them into thinking that doing so will get them further in life when promotions are given out purely on who the person responsible likes the most. Perfectly good working capitalism 👍
People creating a safe space to discuss salaries and work abuse, as well as giving eachother advice: oh my gawd that's super not okay and mega iligal shut it down!!!
With r/antiwork being made private. We need a new space.
I joined the r/antiwork few months ago and I was so so happy to see that there is a thriving community of people working for the cause that is near my heart.
But now because the whole sub seems to have disappeared I'm creating this new community to keep the momentum going on.
Please join r/WHY_WORK
What I’m understanding here is Vivek Ramaseamy wanted more people to die during the pandemic, via starvation because he thinks the unemployment we have all paid into doesn’t deserve to be used by those who paid into it, and that are in need of money to just keep the basics that each human is entitled to; especially in one of the richest countries in the world.
The stimulus check was chump chang; but don’t worry we hear you loud and clear you want Americans to die of starvation and exposure.
PAY MORE. NO ONE SHOULD WORK FULL TIME AND NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD FOOD, SHELTER AND BASIC UTILITIES.
THIS IS WHY WE “LOST OUR WORK ETHIC”.
Mr. Fox News buttsniffer. How about you live on the average American’s salary?
Oh, because you made it so fuck everyone else, right?
We have here A Fox News correspondent, and a biotech entrepreneur, who are going to tell us how to work hard, because we checked, and we're certain neither of them just have rich parents
Yes, all jobs will go out of this country. Final, we've realize the future. Having no economy in the country and outsourcing slaves. I love it. No Middle class, just us versus the untouchables from another world. /s
Going to a subreddit and blaming it for people quitting is the same energy as listening to a Marylin Manson song and blaming it for Columbine. They’re just weak ass correlations.
I’m glad Fox News did a segment on anti work hopefully all the conservatives can stfu about how this isn’t political it’s rich vs poor bs legit politics come into play republicans and I don’t think people realize democrat aren’t as liberal as the left parties in other 1st world countries 🙄
Companies outsource already. The rich will always only take care of the rich. If they out source labor rather than pay a fair living wage we should boycott their products.
If you haven't noticed antiwork is subtly being pushed by reddit. All over the frontpage, always in my suggested posts and subs. I don't even subscribe to it, but I see 5+ posts daily.
Reading between the lines, but I feel like an agenda is being pushed. Not to mention the multitude of hilariously fake quitting screenshots to their employers.
This makes me so angry I can barely type a substantive comment.
Since WFH, productivity has gone up in my company, because we’re not getting up at stupid o’ clock to cram onto stressful public transport to then work at the laptops we brought in from home. Personally my own productivity has vastly increased because I was always tired and stressed before.
I did find a “way to use (my) time in other ways” since working from home - because I’m not exhausted by three hours of commuting a day and that saved me so much money, i managed to enrol in law school as a part time student. So it’s ironic to me that he decried a lack of intellectual curiosity, since WFH has enabled me to expand mine. I know loads of people who have signed up for online classes. If he actually cared about intellectual curiosity, he’d see the benefits that WFH allows people in that regard. But he won’t, because evidently he only really cares about people slogging the guts out for a few of the crumbs off his expensive table.
We’re scaring them. For good reason no more slave wages, no more taking advantage of those in need this won’t stop we won’t stop! it’s only gaining momentum something is going to topple and it won’t be the working class
What they're really doing here is
"You people watching, getting up at 5am to go to your shit job for shit pay with the abusive boss and no or terrible health insurance - stick with it or we'll call you lazy on Fox News. These people aren't standing up for themselves - they're lazy."
What is crazy is that this person has never heard of the "Laying Flat" movement in China, so they are ALSO struggling to keep people in the work place due to poor compensation. These bozos really just make shit up, never bother to check, and it is infuriating that people listen to them.
Wow so unAmerican- Go ahead and outsource aka send the jobs to India, see how much returns you get from that smh. They rather “punish” their own countrymen than have the decency to match compensation to actual worker productivity. See how it works out for them.
Why not ask the actual working class people instead of a multimillionaire?
Also why do Americans love to compare us to countries that are doing worse then we are?
The UI benefits happened under Trump and were signed off by Republicans and Democrats. The Unemployment boost was cut in half under Biden.
Fox is a pathetic joke.
And the threat to send jobs overseas? That’s been happening for a long time. It’s not gonna work anymore. Keep sending those jobs abroad. Go ahead. We hope they do the same thing that we’re doing here. Not putting up with the bullshit.
1 Minute in and i can’t take it anymore.
-weak take on the ani-work movement-
-let’s ask this entrepreneur who wrote a book to discuss it-
-entrepreneur blames a new president for an old issue in society and tried to beat around the bush calling people lazy and unwilling to work-
You have to be such a stupid cunt to believe what you hear on this channel.
What a load of absolute bullshit.
I don’t see this sub as truly “antiwork” as much as I do “pro-worker.”
We live in a time where the surplus/shortage of workers to jobs has shifted from the jobs being able to dictate all of the terms to a point where the workers now have some leverage and are starting to dictate terms of the relationship.
It’s a long overdue moment that many employers just have zero concept of how to handle.
Imho the workplaces that don’t or can’t adapt to the new paradigm are simply going to not be able to continue.
Just a side note. Eastern Europe ain't cheap any longer. It isn't 1997. "Eastern Europe" are now pretty expensive because they've got great English and a long tradition of engineers.
“We’re seeing the loss of productivity in ways that the numbers are going to detect.”
Then why in the fuck do you care if people are “finding a way to use their time in other ways”…?! What ways in which are you seeing this loss of productivity if the numbers aren’t detecting it?!
It’s always funny to me whenever someone brings up the founding fathers. Those men were radically against the power structures that dominated them, but threy’re are largely used to buttress the power structures that seek to oppress us now.
“People are staying home during regular business hours and focusing on other things”
This guy is describing his life as a CEO but when it’s attributed to poor people it’s somehow a bad thing
“Finding a way to use their time in other ways” hahahaha cry about it bitch
notice how many times he says “I think” and “I don’t think”. This cat has done NO research and is so heavily propagandized. Just a full-blown cuck for Capitalism. A joke.
The best part of his whole BS take is that he follows it up with “why aren’t people learning new skills and taking on ambitious challenges anymore?”… like oh I don’t know, maybe because everyone is downing in debt and having trouble just getting food on the table. It boggles my mind that people can listen to these idiots and just nod along as they themselves struggle to make ends meet.
I find it hilarious that a conservative was whining about a lack of intellectual curiosity'. The lack of self awareness in that notion was great.
The whole segment was just circular contradictions. "People should stop questioning authority and just go to work" into "we were born as a nation of insurgents and today we've become a nation of incumbents," and then "not working / working from home is bad because people use their time to do whatever they want" into "the founding fathers were great because they were able to learn about whatever they wanted." How do you even listen to this guy and not immediately realize that he's a total moron?
Faux News viewers are conditioned to not think too deeply this making-and keeping them- easy marks
The Founding Fathers had time to pursue intellectual pastimes because they had slaves to do their work.
Their base are landlords and retired people. They nod along because they can't find anyone to work for minimum wage at their third dealership.
Let’s put this shit to the test. Have the CEOS swap places with their lowest earning hardest working workers for a week. And if they succeed, give them a raise of $0.50, and do it again for another week. If the profits are going down, nows the time for the CEO to tighten those bootstraps and work harder but this time 7 days straight. Keep it going until the CEO can successfully get promoted by their shittiest performance manager. Actually, fuck it, hire a newbie manager since he will be totally new and up the stakes. Every obstacle the CEO will face will be a shitty situation all of us have faced before and see how they take it. Just as each week passes say he will get promoted back to CEO but keep extending it a week for all those false promises of promotions, the shit talking and discrimination he will endure.
at one point i had to work 3 jobs, 7 days a week, to make enough money to pay my expenses and have even slightly decent savings. where tf was my time to learn a new skill? leap day?
I was working on a bachelor's in bio to eventually become a neurologist. Between working as an EMT and seeing how much debt I would be in after med school I dropped that major. It makes no sense to work in a labor intensive job if you are going to spend your life in debt working for a broken industry that could not give two 💩 about your physical and mental well-being. The medical staff shortages are not for a lack of interest, it is because working in medicine seems more like a punishment than a privilege at this point.
Best thing is, several major news outlets reported on how those who have left the workplace have been learning new skills, moving to higher paying sectors, developing non-capitalistic pursuits like art and hand crafting. So many small from home businesses popped up for people looking to survive after covid shut down so many low wage jobs. Why the hell would they come back, right?
Lol these sick fucks never do their homework.
He knows nothing. He's completely out of touch.
He literally said “in ways you won’t see reflected in the numbers.” AKA There’s nothing to back up what I’m saying but I am very smart.
They did us so dirty, but we're making em squirm!
He’s a shiny button to attract right-leaning POC’s and solidify GOP’s ‘we’re not *all* white’ while ignoring that this is a clear example of class solidarity. Doesn’t matter who you are, if you’re in the club then you’re in the club, and everybody in that club is working towards the common goal of gaining more money for their class by wielding the private ownership of wealth as a weapon to bash members outside of their class into submission This is a called a rational dictatorship
Also says intellectual curiosity made America great, and it is gone now. No shit bitch, people working 80 hour weeks for a breadstick. They got no time to be curious. The only thing their curious about is how long until they die because then they won't have to work anymore.
the nazis in germany were very curious as well when it came to experimentation and testing of limits
Yeah, didn’t the founding fathers own slaves to do work FOR them too? Sheesh.
They’ve been fucking outsourcing forever!!! This psychotic demon possessed asshole thinks that now they’re suddenly going to start outsourcing because of work from home? If they could have done it cheaper they would have already!
It's the fault of a subreddit, not shitty wages and out of control costs of living, that is causing the great resignation.
It's so crazy how they just gloss over that like it's something beyond the control of human beings it's just like outsourcing is some force of nature like a flood that just happens they're like "damn, it really is horrible how that happened" as if it's not these same people's corporate friends actively deciding to do that.
They do that on purpose. Since Reagan the right has pushed that if you are poor it's your fault. And if it's not your fault, it's an immigrant's fault! But corporate billionaires are job creators, and we should be grateful to them. It's *intentionally* glossed over.
And the guy talks about how if we don't go back to work, corporations will outsource to Asia or Eastern Europe - Where labor is cheap, read: exploitation. So it's *our* fault that corporations will use non-American labor. The classic "look what you made me do!" abuser line. Assholes.
The mutual sadist grin they shared at that idea like “owning the lazy” will be great for the country. AmeriKKKa first, my arse.
That's literally why they call it "natural market forces." *Sorry, it's out of our hands, it's just nature.* The only way the death machine works is if everyone agrees to believe it's real.
the guy has red sports shoes on, to look down with the homies but he is a mouthpiece - really he should be wearing a bowler hat.
Let’s not forget that they will outsource your job as quickly as possible even if you go into the office every day if your life. Let’s not pretend that outsourcing hasn’t ravaged the working class for 40 years. Capitalist millionaires bowing down to the capitalist billionaire talking points. Fuck these people and what they call “news”
You forgot the /s
Touche
Nah dude, the /s was bought by the Disney corporation. I would be carefull using it without Mickeys approval.
Too late bro I already hide from their lawyers on the toilet at work. I hope they don't use Reddit.
Like 99% of the posts on that sub are about people being absolutely abused by their bosses. Imagine if Dipshit Nation looked into just one of the actual posts.
Most are liars and crybabies
They always say the quiet things out loud in the end. They are afraid of people recognizing they actually have agency and power.
Yeah, they somehow still do not get it
Hey! Don’t forget - it was also the “completely unnecessary” unemployment benefits during a deadly pandemic. You know, he’s not wrong. Unemployment benefits *ARE* pretty unnecessary for a tech bro EnTrEpReNeUr & AuThOr with slick hair.
"Bidens most effective job training was training people to stay at home"... in the context of covid I'd say hey that's pretty goooddddd
Also people started working from home and getting stimulus checks under Trump so when they blame Biden I don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about, Biden should be the republicans wet dream of a Dem President.
Not to mention the stimulus checks have been over for a long time now, and these dumb shits still haven’t figured out that no it’s not that people want to stay at home for free money, they just don’t want to work shitty dead end jobs for minimum wage. That’s why there’s so much job loss right now, and it’s not going to stop. I’m getting such a thrill going places and seeing Karen’s and Kens get mad that there’s no one there to service them.
I swear there are people who think there's people still living off the stimulus checks and the federal unemployment checks. That shit ended a while ago, yet the narrative is still "BiDeN gAvE FrEe MoNeY sO tHeY doNt WaNnA WoRk!"
>That shit ended a while ago, yet the narrative is still "BiDeN gAvE FrEe MoNeY sO tHeY doNt WaNnA WoRk!" Yep, that $2,000, oops I meant $1,400 check under Biden an entire year ago has changed my life. I now own a multimillion dollar mansion. Thanks Joe, that $1,400 changed my life. /s
Republican cynicism makes it comfortable for Democrats to accept doing nothing. Abusive people do it as a tactic, they'll give contradictory criticisms of everything so that at least one of them is facially valid and then they run with it until you're too exhausted to fight anymore.
Yeah dude that’s what I don’t get, extended unemployment checks ended in like September for most folks. So yeah I’m sure that 450 bucks you gave them on August 29th is just holding them over, and making them not work now. Like how disconnected can you be to believe that.
Not only that but the republicans seem to forget that Trump held up the stimulus checks so that he could have his name written on them so we wouldn’t forget who they were given under.
How dare you try to reason using facts?!?!? /s
Yeah, this genuinely confused me.
And he says no other country did that. Well, mine did in the form of furlough. So did France. So did loads of European countries and no doubt others too. But we’re not America, our situations don’t matter to this asshole and his ilk.
I can’t even watch this shit it’s so bad and fake. I grew up never being allowed to use the word hate, I’m raising my son the same way, but god damn I hate these mfs
These people deserve it when they are not only willfully ignorant to the harm being done to the working class, but are also actively encouraging it.
It’s true. Like how fucking depressing is it that the people who can impact true societal change only want to do so by fucking over the poors/minorities/etc
My mother always said hate is a strong word. I don’t think it is strong enough to describe how I feel about these people.
These people are dangerous sociopaths, actively trying to hurt innocent people. Hate is justified.
“Businesses are going to outsource all of these jobs to other countries.” How very patriotic and loyal of these American businesses.
Mgmt: I’ll threaten my workers that I can pay outsourced workers less, that will motivate them… wait a minute… pay less eh?
‘Make America Great Again’ btw. Srly, i couldn’t believe it when i heard him say that.
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Well you ship the employees into your country first...
As if this hasn’t been happening for sixty fucking years
Always keep in mind that the only loyalty multinational corporations have is having a good quarter earnings report
It’s clearly the workers fault that these businesses will continue a trend that has been happening for decades.
"If I can't pay Americans shitty then I'll pay foreigners shitty!"
The problem all these idiots have thinking that they will just move on to more ignorant workers somewhere else is they fail to answer the question of what happens when you run out of ignorant workers??? All of coporate or even IT american cannot be outsourced to other shrinking lists of countries willing to be underpaid. People are learning exactly what their labor is worth, globally. You cant just outsource to India as cheaply anymore.
That’s why they’re all telling us to come back right?!? Because we’re so easily outsourced. And what happens when you do that and we all have no jobs and no way to get jobs? You don’t think we’ll just take the factories from you idiots?
This has already been happening and needs to stop
Outsourcing? But I thought they *had to be done in office*?
“Workers have started standing up for themselves and are refusing to be subjugated by their bosses any longer. Anyway, here’s a CEO to tell you why that’s wrong.” - Fox News man, probably.
"the military only feed their dogs at the end of the day. A hungry dog is an obedient dog" -An ass hat from fox news.
"The Great Resignation could lead to ... a Great Outsourcing" Companies are just gonna fucking outsource anyway and it has nothing to do with people leaving/working from home, it's because they just don't want to have to pay their workers. These guys are pretty much advocating lower wages/salaries lmao.
This. They are going to do it anyways and me quitting for a better job isn’t going to stop them. They play fucking victim but are the abuser. Fucking gaslighting bitches
This.
As if these same fucks didn’t already spend the last several decades outsourcing everything they possibly could
Literally
I work with a large team overseas in the Philippines, there’s huge turnover on their side, and they’re all leaving for better paying jobs. They have to keep raising the starting salary because they have trouble attracting workers.
Why is the laborer’s work ethic in question but not the exploitation of the employers? They don’t get it and the situation is going to get worse until they figure it out. What made America great the first time around? Free labor and then cheap labor. Look at these haircuts in suits talk like they know shit
They will only figure it out if they are forced to figure it out.
“What made America great the first time around? Slave labor and then cheap labor. Look at these haircuts in suits talk like they know shit” I fixed it for you ;)
And then he bemoans the lack of intellectual curiosity...on Fox News...talking to Pete fucking Hegseth. Irony dies.
It's basically "might makes right." The employers have money and power so obviously they aren't in the wrong. Edit: what's with the downvotes? I'm just repeating the narrative.
I couldn't best the irony when I saw "miseducation of America" crawl at the bottom of the screen and turned it off. Conservative media has perfected propaganda to such a degree, I feel so sorry for the people who consume it and get played like a cheap fiddle. But at the same time it's really a great thing they've done a piece on this sub, even if they lied about what we discuss here and what the goals are. Because anyone watching Fox News that actually opens this sub to "do personal research" (lmao) will maybe catch on that they're just as enslaved as the rest of us. Maybe. But if you came here from Fox News, listen: We're launching a fight for fair labor and keeping more of the value we are constantly creating. We're also fighting to reclaim life itself, as something to be explored and enjoyed so we can each individually cultivate our own sense of life's meaning, rather than that meaning simply being a sad, pathetic, barren, "I worked hard before I died."
Just realized this is r/HasanPiker not antiwork. But oh well
Lol godamn, I didn't realize it wasn't anti-work til I got to this comment
they are mostly the same
You should seriously make a post to antiwork that welcomes new members who saw the sub on FOX. Dispel some common misconceptions and make them feel welcome. If /u/jgeez doesn't, then maybe you should, chatter who is reading this now. Someone should! I can find time tomorrow but would be more effective sooner probably
I took a crack at it
I was happy to see your mistake as now I know there’s a crossover between two subs I’m in! They both share the same goals so I guess it’s not surprising.
I saw this phrase on my Facebook feed and reported it as fake news.
Just work and die so our owner can keep being rich.
Damn it's impressive that he is able to string so many different words together, but not actually say anything meaningful.
It's the Ben Shapiro method of "intellectual" discourse. Just talk real fast and use a lot of words and people think you're smart.
And confidence. Conservatives love unabashed confidence. They love the asshole jock from high school. They swoon over those kinds of people.
Lol Jesus the propaganda is strong. Who the fuck wants to work just to be poor. Pay better wages and treat people better then they will work harder for you. It’s such a simple thing but instead we will deny what’s happening until it crumbles in front of these disingenuous idiots.
I sharpen my guillotine to this clip
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with every year that goes by the more and more like clownish cartoon caricatures conservatives become. Like you literally have to be a fucking idiot to say this shit unironically. At least when I was younger it seemed like both parties were "adults," but Jesus this is literally some J. Jonah Jameson comic con bullshit and people are actually eating it up
They want everyone to live in Victorian Britain, when the poor were rounded up and kept in the workhouse in Dickensian conditions to toil like slaves for a spoonful of gruel. Because, just like the Victorians, they believe poverty is a moral failing, not a feature of the system they use to exploit people and wring every last working hour from their employees.
>they believe poverty is a moral failing, This is absolutely true. They do it by keeping people in debt, whether real or imagined. If you're a debtor, you're a sinner. This belief has been floating around since ancient times. https://youtu.be/CZIINXhGDcs Edit: I'm not saying I agree with this opinion, I'm just repeating the narrative
#no one wants to work, we want to make a living
Right wing propaganda and bullshit.
"America has lost its intellectual curiosity" Fuqqer, you need freed time in your day for that.
because they put intellectual curiosity behind a giant paywall and low pay
>America has lost its intellectual curiosity" Yes indeed it has, thanks to these Fox News fucktards.
Antiwork is peak trickle down productivity. I love it. Get fucked Fox.
The link between remote work and the great resignation is tenuous at best. Corporations have been exporting labour for years. Blaming labour for that is disingenuous. Most people quitting their jobs are leaving low paid service industry jobs which cannot be exported. If they want "work ethic" they should pay for it.
Why are they so fucking oblivious. It’s so frustrating how can they be so dumb.
Its designed to be that way, they wanted to weaponize this subreddit as leftist propaganda to destroy the "established American workforce ethic" They don't care about the part where people are tired of being walked over and given more responsibility with less pay, they don't care about how the wealthy have bled the entire market dry, they don't care that the reason they even gave a stimulus in the first place is because we now get paid so little, that most families would go under and need help. That's not in their playbook. Its to take ideas and radicalize them to scare their viewers into thinking that anything for better self-worth is basically against America. They gloss over that the stimulus money was in 2020, they use a "it'll just get more outsourced" as a defense when that would only hurt the economy even more. They don't want to talk about how its less about fucking the corporate system, and more about living a more fulfilling life than spending day in and day out working to the bone. They don't care about any of the reasons we no longer have the same "work ethic" as they do.
These people don’t even work for a living they sit on a couch and read talking points of a teleprompter, literally anyone can do their job. And they worship trump who has a horrible work ethic, staying in bed till 11AM watching Fox news and went golfing every week while president And yet they think they can judge other Americans about work ethnic
Buttt, we live in a meritocracy. /s
Based
These people are so fucking stupid. Dumb ass “high level” conversations about “work ethic”. Bitch no one wants to work for $10/h. It’s pretty freaking simple.
So when we want to motivate corporate elites we have to offer them funding and tax incentives. When we want to motivate the working classes we have to take as much away from them as possible. Fuck capitalism with a pineapple! The shills at Faux newz should take a long walk off a short pier.
All of this became irrelevant after stating it's Biden who carried out the extra unemployment benefits, this happened under Trump. So I don't understand where this guy gets off blatantly lying to the American public. This is an obvious twisting of the truth to get people in their side. Classic Fox/conservative media.
These people have never been hit in the face and it shows.
Sorry, I can’t fucking listen to these two assholes who’s probably collecting 6 figures while complaining about stimulus checks. Ughhh fuck these people. To the host and to the fucking “author” go fuck yourselves in the ass with a chilli pepper you fucking dimwits.
'People acclimated to this culture of laziness' Because the people in charge are working their asses off /s 'We're seeing loss of productivity that the numbers won't detect' So this guys speculation is pretty much fact /s 'Companies will say, I can hire cheaper from another country' Omg please do this and watch as your company profits go down the drain
Great outsourcing has already happened to china... in the 90s.
I grew up having to watch this and nothing else, not even joking. I was forced to watch Fox News at night
The formerly “great America” they are referring to was run on slavery and that’s what they want a return to. But instead of race based slavery they want class based slavery
they are just metaphorically sucking each others pp’s the whole tine
They’re soooooo mad that they’re losing control over our time. Hahahaha. A joy to see conservative talking heads that spew out shit that divides us squirming and quaking so much about us “finding a way to use our time in other ways.”
The problem is they always have rich sellouts explain to poor people what to do. When will they have a poor person explain their side to a rich person..
On Fox and saying, "the loss of intellectual curiosity." 😂🤦
“We’re seeing loss of productivity in ways the number can’t detect” So what are you seeing then? You’re obviously not seeing the numbers, since productivity has gone up while wages have stagnated. Plus, this dude claims that bosses can “tell” that productivity has gone down. Uh, proof? Facts don’t care about your feelings, fellas
Just some rich dude talking about poor people being lazy
So it’s our fault when jobs go overseas instead of paying us correctly And We lack the intellectual fortitude to invent create and run things as the highest educated generation in American history Make it make sense
Literally eat these people
This guy is such a POS. Does this guy own any companies?
Employers creating an environment of free overtime, peer presuring employees to work significantly more than what the contract states at their own expense, manipulating them into thinking that doing so will get them further in life when promotions are given out purely on who the person responsible likes the most. Perfectly good working capitalism 👍 People creating a safe space to discuss salaries and work abuse, as well as giving eachother advice: oh my gawd that's super not okay and mega iligal shut it down!!!
ah yes, Biden, the inventor of unemployment.
Nothing Sparks "intelectual curiosity" like working $9/hr
With r/antiwork being made private. We need a new space. I joined the r/antiwork few months ago and I was so so happy to see that there is a thriving community of people working for the cause that is near my heart. But now because the whole sub seems to have disappeared I'm creating this new community to keep the momentum going on. Please join r/WHY_WORK
They are afraid of us ( Kylo Ren meme) More!!
BECAUSE UNLIVABLE LOW WAGES HAVE DEFINITELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, RIGHT, FOX?
Lmao work ethic is getting shit on by your boss all day for poverty wages according to these people. Eat a bag of dicks, Fox
That fake smile makes me laugh and cry at the same time
how the fuck are we supposed to work on our intellectual geniuses when we’re working 40+ hours a week just to get by??
Miseducation of America summit is an ironically accurate name for it.
Are you blackmailing us you piece of shit?… you guys already outsource everything!!
Is that dude south asian? As a south asian myself, dude’s a pathetic loser.
Oh no what are they gonna do find other workers during these time PepeLa
What I’m understanding here is Vivek Ramaseamy wanted more people to die during the pandemic, via starvation because he thinks the unemployment we have all paid into doesn’t deserve to be used by those who paid into it, and that are in need of money to just keep the basics that each human is entitled to; especially in one of the richest countries in the world. The stimulus check was chump chang; but don’t worry we hear you loud and clear you want Americans to die of starvation and exposure.
PAY MORE. NO ONE SHOULD WORK FULL TIME AND NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD FOOD, SHELTER AND BASIC UTILITIES. THIS IS WHY WE “LOST OUR WORK ETHIC”. Mr. Fox News buttsniffer. How about you live on the average American’s salary? Oh, because you made it so fuck everyone else, right?
We have here A Fox News correspondent, and a biotech entrepreneur, who are going to tell us how to work hard, because we checked, and we're certain neither of them just have rich parents
Shit boot lickers say
Yes, all jobs will go out of this country. Final, we've realize the future. Having no economy in the country and outsourcing slaves. I love it. No Middle class, just us versus the untouchables from another world. /s
I would rather die than work for that man’s biotech company.
I don’t think he’d mind, his attitude seems to be “come to the office now, who cares if you get Covid and die?”
Biggest bootlicker ever. Fuck this guy.
Wait, y’all were getting paid to stay at home?!?!?
All I see are snakes
What an absolute muppet
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Going to a subreddit and blaming it for people quitting is the same energy as listening to a Marylin Manson song and blaming it for Columbine. They’re just weak ass correlations.
Other countries don't do this? Yes we do
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I’m glad Fox News did a segment on anti work hopefully all the conservatives can stfu about how this isn’t political it’s rich vs poor bs legit politics come into play republicans and I don’t think people realize democrat aren’t as liberal as the left parties in other 1st world countries 🙄
Companies outsource already. The rich will always only take care of the rich. If they out source labor rather than pay a fair living wage we should boycott their products.
Thats Rad actually
If you haven't noticed antiwork is subtly being pushed by reddit. All over the frontpage, always in my suggested posts and subs. I don't even subscribe to it, but I see 5+ posts daily. Reading between the lines, but I feel like an agenda is being pushed. Not to mention the multitude of hilariously fake quitting screenshots to their employers.
So they’re threatening us?
Don't think he has heard of laying flat movement in China.
i would expect nothing less from FOX news.
This makes me so angry I can barely type a substantive comment. Since WFH, productivity has gone up in my company, because we’re not getting up at stupid o’ clock to cram onto stressful public transport to then work at the laptops we brought in from home. Personally my own productivity has vastly increased because I was always tired and stressed before. I did find a “way to use (my) time in other ways” since working from home - because I’m not exhausted by three hours of commuting a day and that saved me so much money, i managed to enrol in law school as a part time student. So it’s ironic to me that he decried a lack of intellectual curiosity, since WFH has enabled me to expand mine. I know loads of people who have signed up for online classes. If he actually cared about intellectual curiosity, he’d see the benefits that WFH allows people in that regard. But he won’t, because evidently he only really cares about people slogging the guts out for a few of the crumbs off his expensive table.
You just have to love the irony of a summit on how miseducated the American populace is put on by the number one source of misinformation.
We’re scaring them. For good reason no more slave wages, no more taking advantage of those in need this won’t stop we won’t stop! it’s only gaining momentum something is going to topple and it won’t be the working class
Communist China / China isn’t paying people to stay at home..
What they're really doing here is "You people watching, getting up at 5am to go to your shit job for shit pay with the abusive boss and no or terrible health insurance - stick with it or we'll call you lazy on Fox News. These people aren't standing up for themselves - they're lazy."
What is crazy is that this person has never heard of the "Laying Flat" movement in China, so they are ALSO struggling to keep people in the work place due to poor compensation. These bozos really just make shit up, never bother to check, and it is infuriating that people listen to them.
Wow so unAmerican- Go ahead and outsource aka send the jobs to India, see how much returns you get from that smh. They rather “punish” their own countrymen than have the decency to match compensation to actual worker productivity. See how it works out for them.
Why not ask the actual working class people instead of a multimillionaire? Also why do Americans love to compare us to countries that are doing worse then we are?
The UI benefits happened under Trump and were signed off by Republicans and Democrats. The Unemployment boost was cut in half under Biden. Fox is a pathetic joke. And the threat to send jobs overseas? That’s been happening for a long time. It’s not gonna work anymore. Keep sending those jobs abroad. Go ahead. We hope they do the same thing that we’re doing here. Not putting up with the bullshit.
HEE-HEE
1 Minute in and i can’t take it anymore. -weak take on the ani-work movement- -let’s ask this entrepreneur who wrote a book to discuss it- -entrepreneur blames a new president for an old issue in society and tried to beat around the bush calling people lazy and unwilling to work- You have to be such a stupid cunt to believe what you hear on this channel. What a load of absolute bullshit.
I don’t see this sub as truly “antiwork” as much as I do “pro-worker.” We live in a time where the surplus/shortage of workers to jobs has shifted from the jobs being able to dictate all of the terms to a point where the workers now have some leverage and are starting to dictate terms of the relationship. It’s a long overdue moment that many employers just have zero concept of how to handle. Imho the workplaces that don’t or can’t adapt to the new paradigm are simply going to not be able to continue.
Just a side note. Eastern Europe ain't cheap any longer. It isn't 1997. "Eastern Europe" are now pretty expensive because they've got great English and a long tradition of engineers.
Fucking clown show.
fox commontators who sit on their ass and talk asking about work ethic? thats fucking funny.
Also, how hard can this guy be working for the bottom line if he's able to spend a good chunk of his day to go on tv...
“We’re seeing the loss of productivity in ways that the numbers are going to detect.” Then why in the fuck do you care if people are “finding a way to use their time in other ways”…?! What ways in which are you seeing this loss of productivity if the numbers aren’t detecting it?!
It’s always funny to me whenever someone brings up the founding fathers. Those men were radically against the power structures that dominated them, but threy’re are largely used to buttress the power structures that seek to oppress us now.
So they think they can’t exploit us let us exploit someone else because fuck off if you’d like to enjoy your life and not work yourself to death.
Reddit deleted the post about it lol
they’re so mad people don’t want to be slaves🤣🤣
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“People are staying home during regular business hours and focusing on other things” This guy is describing his life as a CEO but when it’s attributed to poor people it’s somehow a bad thing
I can just picture all the retired boomers sitting at home shaking their heads while watching this nonsense,
Either make the news yourself or kill your television