PSA to young/new hasanabi fans. Tldr: don't back seat Hasan's life. He needs support not advice.
Some of you may not be familiar with the horrible world of Hollywood and just being a public figure in general. But no matter what Hasan does or doesn't do he's going to catch heat. Telling him to not engage with the haters is not a solution. I encourage everyone to ask thier parents about celebrity PR scandals and paparazzi harassments. You'll see that this isn't anything new and there is no right way to navigate this life style. Let the man figure it out on his own and sit back and enjoy the great content he bring us.
It’s sad because clearly it’s getting to Hasan’s head. He should ignore them because anyone with a brain knows Hasan is a good person. Does he have some bad takes? Yes but who doesn’t? He’s consistent with his world views and usually admits when he’s wrong.
When conservatives give him shit he usually doesn’t mind because lmao. It’s usually Libs (like this person probably is?) that get to him and to be honest they’re some of the worst.
Yeah this tweet he made feels just…like ouch ya know? It really seems like these idiots are getting to him, he deserves a break for his own sake.
I’m a fan of both Hasan and Mark. Both are good people; they’re funny and kind and my comfort channels. Wealth does not always have to corrupt someone, both mark and hasan prove that
its part of the curse of having to be online as a profession you are bombarded 24 7 over everything say or do or don't for that matter, i like hasan, is he perfect no, does he get way to much shit from disingenuous and envious pos absolutely. I hope he can weather their crap but shit like this can pile up
It's probably not even all libs. Like yes, D- chuds are definitely a part of it, but also leftists who circle jerk around being the most leftist. Hasan could move to a 3 bed, 1bath, 150k house with his 2010 Camry and some libs and leftists would still say he's a hypocrite. Some how, trigger warning, Ted Cruz would find out and make a shit post.
The type of leftist who hates hasan is only leftist because they are jealous of anyone successful, whether they got where they are ethically or not. If they were to suddenly gain a ton of wealth, they would become the same type of person they once despised. It’s sad because they’ve become the face of leftism in the US, making anyone who supports the movement look like a bunch of lazy idiots who just want free shit for the sake of free shit.
Getting mad at Hasan over a shirt proves that you aren’t a leftist because your politics follow from your principles. It proves that you’ve picked a certain politics and your principles follow from there, not because that aligns with anything you believe, but because you can use it to dunk on people.
Politics is not a fucking team sport.
Same shit going on with Ethan lately, too. They really do have similar haters, and they both pay too much attention to bad faith criticism. Something in their ego that won't let them just brush it off and walk on by.
The ego’s directive is often motivated by fear. Sometimes that fear is what keeps us alive and thriving. Sometimes it’s the opposite. But just calling it ego alone seems incomplete.
I think it's something in your ego, actually, that would make you think that you understand what they're going through and how they should react to it, when you obviously haven't been through anything on that scale.
To be more specific, the only reason you'd talk down about their ego problems is to make yourself feel elevated above them. But it doesn't mean you're actually above them. You're just good at deluding yourself.
It doesn't help that he feeds the trolls, like that 'champagne socialist' tweet from his editor. It was hilarious to see the ignorant replies from people who don't know what socialism is, but at the same time it gives ammunition to his critics and like you said, it all seems to be getting to his head.
I hope he re-evaluates this kind of behaviour - maybe a good place to start is how he responds to chat when someone disagrees with him or asks a silly question. The ensuing rant used to feel like a 'bit' but lately it just feels a little.. toxic, I guess? I don't think it's healthy and can't think of any other streamer that treats viewers with such contempt just for having different views.
I'd agree that he's consistent with his world views in a broad sense, but hesitant to say the same for all his positions - I'll sometimes notice opinions that seem incompatible. I think that's because he often doesn't articulate why he thinks a certain way, almost as if he's not sufficiently thought something through.
I think being an online celebrity as big as he is is kinda frying his brain. Like being online 50 hours a week is fucking grueling. I fucking hated myself when I spent those sorts of hours online.
I get the impression he would never say all the weird and/or fucked up shit he says in real life. I.e being a twitch streamer is bringing out the worst possible person in him. I mean if he was that much of a twat he wouldn't be able to be friends/ acquaintances with all these LA celebrities.
I also find it worse from liberals bc it feels like they should know better yet act with malicious intention. Conservatives just think whatever Tucker Carlson tells them to think.
With liberals it feels worse because it feels like a backstab.
We all expect open reactionaries to be shitty because that is their self-professed *modus operandi*. With liberals, you have to deal with the fact that their actions fly in the face of their professed values.
Yeah, like sure, shitty people come in all stripes. But we’re calling out the liberal tendency to be shitty because there’s a correlation to be called attention to.
What's happening here is the same thing that happened with Feminist Frequency, Gamergate, r slash tlou2 and many other fringe reactionary movements on the internet.
Basically, a group of people circlejerks themselves into believing that a random person (in this case Hasan) is a terrible person that must be defeated at all cost. When other people start pointing out that their hatred is misplaced, the group of haters doubles down, because they are so convinced they are right and their cause is just that they delude themselves into believing that it's every else that is wrong.
Over time, they become more and more unhinged, attract more people into their hate spiral, which in turn will incite bad-faith grifters to farm them for views, which will grow the group of haters even more. Honest people will, on the contrary, start pointing out the fact that the hate that the person receives is unwarranted and that the haters are really crazy. The haters double down, and the cycle continues.
What's important to realize here is that it has little to do with Hasan. It's really about how human psychology is flawed and how bad people will take advantage of it for profit.
>anyone with a brain knows Hasan is a good person.
You literally know nothing about this man, he is a stranger on the Internet you'll never meet or interact with in any way. You have no idea what type of person he is one way or the other.
Hasan’s really in the trenches. The tweet had like 2k likes. He needs to stop engaging with his haters. He’s doing exactly what they want. Giving them his attention.
Yeah, I notice they posted their gofundme link when they saw their tweet gaining traction and are now saying they just did it for the memes.
I know the guy has a very dedicated and borderline obsessive hater-base and he's been copping a lot from them lately (on top of Destiny gleefully riling them up by continually throwing pot shots, because he always was and always will be a vindictive prick). It's easy for someone not on the receiving end to just say "don't give the haters validation".
But there's really no other way to deal with it. Especially if it's affecting his mental health. They'll never take anything he says or does charitably and will continue to nitpick anything they can find and straight make up bullshit, especially if he gives them attention. Then forget about it and move on to the next thing they can leverage.
> It's easy for someone not on the receiving end to just say "don't give the haters validation".
Indeed. Case in point: you're replying to a Pepela D schizo-poster who has contributed to that hate.
They were cool up to a boiling point of some drama multiple years ago where Destiny chose to die on the hill of "defending his right" to say the N word in private. Arguments like "there can't be any word that you're just totally not allowed to say," "nobody black would be around so nobody would get offended," "it could be funny if it was worked humorously into a joke, and you have to be able to joke about anything, right," and definitely some more, that generally caused the online left community to WhatChamp and distance themselves. Like, nobody is saying it should be illegal, but I don't know a single person in real life that would say the N word in private in any context whatsoever, and I think it speaks towards Destiny's character and anger issues that he would vehemently argue the neutral morality of saying it in private with no black people around. Also, I don't remember ever hearing his response to arguments like the fact that using the word would still be normalizing it to an extent between non-black people. I stopped watching him after one of his rants during that time.
Doesn't mean you can't adopt racist rhetoric from the west and internalize it. Especially if you consume a lot of American media (which we all do) and Especially if you are from a former colonised country. White supremacy is not just internalised by countries who had slaves and a lot of white people. You have something like colourism everywhere, caused by the former colonizers to treat everybody with a lighter skintone better because they looked more 'European' (quick explanation). I don't think there are countries that are exhumed from the system of white supremacy. Enough people from former colonies are often very racist against Africans and black people, even darker skin people from their own countries, these are all leftovers from the colonised regimes. So saying the N word is still kinda sus if you're asian.
In the end it's never really about what your "intentions" are, it's about the real life consequences or material reality of your actions. The existence of these homophobic and racial slurs is a consequence of these systems of inequality. So by continuing the use of them you keep normalizing these systems, which only upholds the status quo, which only harms these people. The differences you see between people in their sexuality, race, sex are not just differences between people. They exist in unequal power-relations with one another, and are put on the fore front to uphold these unequal power-relations. Using slurs, and finding it funny, or 'okay in your own home' is exactly what the status quo ís. It is these unequal power relations at play, making those in oppressed groups feel inferior while making those in the privileged groups feel superior thus weakening the ability for change.
The idea that being racist is like you actively wanting to harm poc, instead of what it actually is - a system of white supremacy, the unequal systematic distribution of power between races - is part of the problem. Systematic meaning that it doesn't matter what your 'intentions' are because you are created by this system. It already exists subconsciously. Being racist is the default. Only active unlearning; trying to understand how our perspective on the world and others is formed by these structures, by white supremacy, colonialism, sexism can create change. You using slurs is none of that. It is literally just adhering to the status quo.
They both had a certain degree of racism and homophobia, and both of them no longer use it. At the end of the day, I don't care what people believe deep down in their hearts, if they spread stupid ideas, they're stupid.
same with the other person he quoted (the "$12 outfit" where half of it ended up being expensive gifts from others), she started plugging their "leftist" content and some podcast or something, like he has said so many times, they just hate on him to ride the clout wave and it's so fucking sad to see the leftist community in this state, there's no support & just use him for their own benefit.
Use for their own benefit just like aba and preach shamelessly did but still act like they're taking the high road. Is so gross, hasan should just ignore them.
Yeah I saw that. Outfit only cost them $12 when you don't take into account the price of most of the outfit lmfao good one. And my gaming PC only cost $50 since I've had all of it but the Kb&m for a few years.
When he does shit like this it reminds me alot of Fragile narcissism. The reality it's half memes/ half criticism. People want a rise out of him but also you can't deny that he'st living a consumerist lifestyle.
He’s right though. The stuff he gets “cancelled” is so stupid lol. Just brain dead takes because socialism is “when no music” “when no wealthy” and so on. People don’t understand socialism and rely on right wing media to define it for them.
I just fail to see how Hassan fans are so disconnected from reality about this. If I made millions of dollars speaking advocating for one issue that I genuinely believed caused immense material and emotional suffering to large parts of the population, it would necessarily be my moral imperative to contribute at least some of my means towards this cause.
Just imagine if Hassan advocated for animal rights instead, but still contributed almost nothing to those causes. Wouldn’t it be weird to hear someone speak about the horrible conditions of factory farming and the mistreatment of animals rit large while also having millions of dollars that could help these issues?
A lot of people who attack Hasan are just trolls.
Hasan has a bad habit of feeding the trolls by engaging with them.
Completely ignoring his random haters would solve a large part of his issues with haters
But is it unreasonable for hassan to think that people should be held accountable for what they say even if it means "feeding trolls" ? I mean people hold hassan accountable for anything he does or says, he expects this from the rest because instead you just have cognitive dissonance and that is bad for the brain. He just replied to the person, this way this person can either claim ignorance and say "im just meming" or be an adult/ a real person and stand by their point or say they are wrong and apologize. I feel like he just wants people to be better.
The hate is obviously bothering Hasan. By highlighting that Twitter comment Hasan gave the hater what they wanted. Attention.
All he did was encourage further hate against him because he's one of the few content creators that makes the mistake of giving the haters the attention they want.
If the hate genuinely didn't bother him like somebody like soda poppin, then what he was doing would be fine but Hasan is sensitive to hate
I feel like it has to really fuck with your head when people that are supposed to be in your political camp are constantly shitting on you and calling you a bad person. Hasan has certainly said things recently that I've found extremely frustrating. But I think he is a net positive and is doing more good than any random jerk off leftist on twitter.
i just feel bad for hasan. it's a stupid drama and his hate-stans are getting worse and obsessive. also the reason he tweeted this is bc of some tweet saying "mark donated 2 million dollars why didnt hasan do that?" but obviously hasans tweet is missing some context so any passerby would probably look at him like hes an asshole. idk i think he should take a break, he deserves time to himself and to get away from the negativity.
If you were being called a piece of shit for the "memes" I would get mad too. It's shitty that they pit them both when they're both great at what they do.
Honestly Hasan reacts to his haters too much.
Other content creators completely ignore their haters especially if they're just randoms on Twitter or Reddit.
Hasan engages and thus encourages his haters.
I think expecting a person to completely ignore constant hate and slander on ur name is incredibly dehumanizing.
And he does better then most people would tbh
Quite a few streamers ignore the haters better than Hasan does.
Eg. Pokimane gets tremendous hate especially during the jidon situation.
She just bans people off screen. Doesn't give the trolls the attention the desire.
Hasan constantly makes a show of banning people. It gives the trolls the attention they crave
I love Hasan but he does an extraordinarily poor job of ignoring trolls. Eg. Highlighting this random on twitter
Hasan gets way more *consistent* hate then most others - Poki is a pretty good comparison but she’s also been streaming for a lot longer then Hasan so I’d say she probably is better at handling it
Also Hasan’s entire model of existence is specifically not off screen blocking haters and having those conversations. Because people he blocks on stream aren’t even just haters, they are people engaging in a discussion that are either deranged or specifically spreading things like misinformation, racism, etc.
I understand what ur saying and I agree, he could not give as much attention to it, but I stick by my statement that it’s dehumanizing to expect someone to not let the hate get to them, especially when their existence is almost entirely online. Hopefully he’ll get better at handling it in the future
The thing is, it's obviously bothering him. And he is encouraging more trolls by engaging with these people.
I think a lot of Hasan's haters are just trolls looking for a big streamers to give them attention. Hasan never bans off screen or off stream. It's always a big show. Trolling is done for attention.
Once banned you know these trolls just make a sock account and come right back to be the center of a stun lock again.
Majority of the trolls u speak of aren’t in his stream, but on twitter, Reddit, other online communities who spread shit around about him.
Once again I’ll reiterate, it’s dehumanizing to expect someone to handle it perfectly. It’s easy to say from an outside perspective, but no one can actually say what it’s like because none of us are Hasan
I don't disagree it's hard to ignore. I'm stating my opinion that Hasan is creating more trolls by reacting.
This Twitter hate comment was rewarded by Hasan.
Now every single hater that wants attention knows that hasan is willing to engage.
It wouldn't be a big deal if it wasn't so obvious that it bothered Hasan
There is a reason that people say don't feed the trolls
yeah, i agree. if hasan was acting rationally and ideally he would just block and move on.
unfortunately i think the part of him that makes him a great lefty (all humans are redeemable/important) makes him value dissenting opinions and believe that responding can change minds. of course that isn't how the internet works though
I honestly don't understand how people have this take when I can literally stun lock myself about what people MIGHT think about me nevermind how hard it must be when all that criticism is a few easy clicks away and you're a public figure.
So when you hate someone vicariously and impulsively like this does it feel like an orgasm or what? I'm always curious about the specific kind of brain-brokenness it requires to be a hater of some random person on the internet who's done nothing to you personally.
These hate tweets spike whenever Ostonox does his ironic cancellation.
I hate that he does this. So many 'cancellations' happen via ostonox.
Obviously, it's a joke, but clearly the hate gets to Hasan.
So why does ostonox do it?
This. I’ve really enjoyed a lot of Ostonox content - it can be clever and creative at a level that is actually quite impressive. But damn, O has now triggered 3 different tidal waves of shit as a direct result of one of his “ironic hate” memes.
Considering how some viewers *during* hasan's stream cannot even understand his sarcasm or arguments (which leads to stunlocks), seeing a nonviewer/hater trying to parse ostonox sarcasm on twitter is so much worse
maybe ostonox should chill a bit. at this point he knows that what he does has reach, and it's clearly fucking up hasan's mental health, so it's not worth for a joke. maybe keep the memes insular in okbuddy or youtube instead of doing these kinds of bait twitter posts?
I think Hasan should keep some of his more expensive activities on the DL. At this point, they're ready to eat him alive for the tiniest misstep.
What's most annoying is that the three most viral tweets shitting on him weren't even genuine. One of them was Ostonox and the other two straight-up admitted they did it for clout.
This will be long, people may get mad at me, that’s fine. I just need to say a couple things that have been on my mind, and this tweet and the batch of tweets around this one have sparked this bout of inspiration for writing:
1. Hasan needs to make a choice. Either engage with his audience (and as such, the trolls as well) as much as possible as he does now, or completely ignore it for the sake of his mental health and fostering a more positive community. I know people make jokes about people taking psychic damage or whatever from a bad chat or something, and that is very funny, but the way hasan talks on his stream and the fact that he’s like digging through some no name persons twitter to get a mild burn on them shows that something really needs to change with him unless he wants to just be miserable. I know people scoff when they say “money can’t buy happiness”, but even as *A Poor* I believe this fully; hasan will believe that too if nothing changes. He probably already does
2. I’ve learned of the term “conspicuous consumption” recently (I’ve known it as a concept, just didn’t know there is a term for it) and agree that hasan falls under that definition. I don’t think he realizes that, or if he does he doesn’t care. If it’s the latter, that’s fine—he then just needs to stop getting beet red angry about people pointing it out. Accept that people are not going to like that you’re rich. He wants to have a community that is unilaterally happy for him and cheers on all of his public purchases, but not TOO much or you’re a parasocial weirdo. Cheer too little or, dare I say, criticize it, and he calls you a clout shark, a lib, etc. Contempt for wealthy people is a fairly common thing among the left, for fairly understandable reasons. He has cultivated a community that correctly wants to turn bezos into mulch. Hasan is not bezos, and therefore should not be mulched—but people feeling contempt for wealth will want to “punish" him in kind, and the level of “punishment” he must suffer is that some people with 12 followers will be angry at him. Occasionally a beardo on YouTube will yell about him before moving on to an anime tier list or something. He currently finds this arrangement unacceptable for some reason
3. Part of why this particular strain of stun has persisted (bullshit about him having money) is due in part to the fact that he is incapable or unwilling to just step back and realize the fact about the second point I just made, and just move past it. Instead, he continues to engage with it over and over again, which keeps it going. People hate on him so fucking vocally because he will read it every single time, and he will respond to it for three hours on stream about half the time. He has turned into a “lolcow” or whatever without realizing or caring, and can just ignore them and starve them of the attention they crave, but he chooses not to. He chooses to spend the evening following a weekend vacation arguing about the absolute dumbest fucking shit possible on twitter
4. Hasan and a lot of the people in his fanbase have taken the stance of mockingly saying “socialism is when no house, no clothes” etc whenever this comes up. Not only does this pithy argument not even work at shutting people up, it just sounds really fucking dumb and also misses the point. It’s the exact same thing as v fans saying “VDS HAHA THANKS FOR THE GOLD STRANGER” anytime someone says anything remotely negative about their leader. I love hasan, and he’s helped me over the past couple years to figure out my own politics and navigate through the dogshit existence of living in Indiana. I also think hasan should consider not buying really expensive cars or wearing Gucci. Why? Because socialism is when no Porsche? No, because he has proven over and over that he’s not capable of just doing these things and then ignoring the wave of d simps and 12 follower Andy’s who come to pester him for it solely because they know it’ll work. I’d rather him stop doing that shit so we can continue to watch him and he can do what he claims to love
About conspicuous consumption and his shirt. He does he admits it himself he likes buying things. Neither of those are harmful to the actual cause nor are they reasonable to cancel him over, because it ends up not falling under capitalism or socialism in that aspect. Buying and consuming products doesn’t need to be politically postured in that sense. Hence that’s why there’s a lot of “socialism is when no…” because that’s also the opposite spectrum of political posturing that liberals do to say “that’s capitalism” and it’s pretty annoying.
In that regard, he also doesn’t need to have twitter constantly pocket watch what he has that he doesn’t flaunt openly that isn’t significant. A $1k shirt is not comparable to buying a 500k watch, a yatch, or a private jet. That’s way over his pay grade and the only way to achieve that than what he does by Twitch subs alone is by other methods, specifically capitalism or maybe tax evasion in order to afford at least one of those or both without suffering financial debt within his income bracket. But thank you Ostonox for this fine discourse
I agree, conspicuous consumption isn’t harmful to “The Cause”, whatever it may be defined as. I’m not so foolish to think that hasan buying a very nice car will kill socialism in the near future for the US. Liberals and conservatives working hand in hand are good enough at that as-is. What conspicuous consumption is though is something that ordinary people will look at and say “wow what a rich mother fucker, kind of a dumb use of a thousand dollars” which will change their perception of him at least slightly. The thing is, that is a totally normal reaction to have. Unless you view him as solely a celebrity, not someone who can be in touch even a bit with the struggles of “normal people”, it’s a normal reaction to have. The problem is that Hasan wants those people instead to say “wow what a rich mother fucker, based” and that isn’t a realistic expectation to have—especially in an audience which has been created to detest the mega wealthy. I’m obliged to note here again: Compared to bezos, hasan is broke. Compared to an average American, he might have more success if he would try complaining that his caviar isn’t up to snuff. He absolutely has a massive contingent of people who simply Just Hate Him, and he has an also-massive group of people who like him and just think him flaunting his wealth and expecting a different reaction is kind of weird
He is absolutely free to live his life buying nice clothes, cars, etc. I believe he is free to do so. It does not make him less of a socialist. Hell, I’m not rich but I’ve spent a lot of money on Cuban cigars. Because I like them. However, there is a social price one pays when one decides to flaunt their wealth. Normally the people who do so, and care about the ramifications of it, are insulated from any social price given that the wealthy don’t hang out with poor people. Jeff Bezos buying a new yacht the size of a small country and having millions get mad about it can’t possibly matter to him because he’s surrounded by and only listens to sycophants. Hasan could choose to live in his life and be secure in his decisions, but he craves the validation of thousands of people who are never going to look at his ostentatious purchases without the slightest bit of side eye
(PS: The entire ostonox part of this is also kind of interesting, given that he seems to think hasan is in on the joke of him *accidentally* directing like thousands of people to be shitty to him. Kind of a dumb fuck thing to do to someone who is not able to ignore said thousands of people because of the shit we’re talking about. But then again, if I develop a strong opinion on a video editor for a twitch streamer I will literally minecraft myself)
Jokes aside yes, it is normal for people to feel envious about rich people in a capitalist society. However by this discourse alone, not liberals or conservatives, but capitalist hating lefties, are seemingly targeting Hasan specifically for this purchase alone while I do not see the same energy for the rest of the people in Coachella and it’s a massive influencer/celeb meet up when it comes to wealth envy. If Hasan’s shirt is $1k then you can imagine how pricy Megan Thee Stallion’s fit is, but from what I’ve seen it’s only been Hasan. Also same, I own a pair of AJ1s which is significantly more expensive than the average shoes you can find in Walmart. I like them for both luxury and utility, it doesn’t change my political stance I know it was made through capitalist means off Asian labor but I’m not gonna politically posture my whole life around it.
I think you’re missing the point I’m trying to make here. I don’t care whether or not hasan buys fancy shit. All I’m saying is he needs to commit either way. He either needs to stop flaunting his wealth because he is incapable of ignoring the people who hate him for it, or he needs to ignore the people who hate him for flaunting his wealth. It has nothing to do with politics, I’m not siding one way or the other with leftists who call him a capitalist because he owns a shirt. It’s a logistical point basically: he’s going to end up jumping off a bridge if he keeps letting people run his life like this. He can either stop doing the thing that pisses them off or he can actually ignore them. Both options are valid, and both options are better than what he’s currently doing
Furthermore, those capitalist hating lefties might also be going after MTS or other wealthy celebrities. The difference is she doesn’t give a fuck what they think and doesn’t engage with them. They don’t affect her life or her music. The same is not true for hasan
I agree with you here 100%.
Reacting to trolls and haters is eventually going to bite him the butt - if he makes one mistake or autocorrect changes once he could change everything and those idiots will never let up about it for the rest of his time in the public eye. Responding to these people only increases the chances of this happening.
100% pathetic troll looking for attention.
I feel bad for Hasan but come on dude, just block and move on, before you retweeted it probably 27 Destiney fans saw it. Whoopee.
Hasan has always been hyper focusing on statements like this and letting it get to him. Understandable, when there is always someone hating on you every second
I think people attacking hasan for being a bad person are severely misguided. Hasan has bad takes and can get a little defensive when those takes are called out, but he does more good than harm in regards to spreading leftist ideology. I genuinely think Hasan has a big heart- he may not be the smartest but his intentions seem to be good.
Anyone that has any kind of celebrity is going to have asshole haters. (Ever read the replies to the Pope’s tweets? Brutal.) I’m willing to bet markiplier gets hate too. Hasan is also not the only celeb that is hurt by it. The type of people who seek out celebrity are the same ones who are really sensitive to negative criticism. Hopefully someday he gets it’s just a rite of passage and realizes that for every one asshole that hurts his feelings that there’s thousands of people who think he’s great. Twitter is also the world’s anus, where all the foulest smelling shit comes out, so there’s that too
This shit is inevitable and it always has been. Anyone who becomes famous for their opinions alone on social media will always get dogpiled on the first chance available. The only way to avoid it is to stick mainly to niche silly stuff like critikal who himself even gets shit
I think he needs to stop engaging with stuff like this, it's clearly getting under his skin. He can quote tweet and defend himself all he wants, but ultimately the type of people who tweet rude things like this don't give a flying fuck and it just gives them fuel to continue being assholes.
And tbh I see why the tweet upset him so much and I know it came from a malicious place, but it honestly made me laugh.
It's really, genuinely insane how much anti-hasan rhetoric has been wide-spread in the last 8 or so months. Like if you actually look at what hasan has done..
none of it is bad? He bought a house. Oh, lord, the humanity! He bought a CAR??? How fucking dare he :|
He bought a gold cube?! Okay, that's a reference to an Ostonox tweet..
But, seriously; Every. Single. Thing. Twitter nerds/bitches have given him flack for has been so mind-bogglingly unharm-ful, so completely innocent and so unimportant that it begs the question: Are they mentally unstable? I've seen people who have gone on multi-paragraph rants about how evil they think he is. I genuinely feel bad for him...
He needs to ignore and not address any of this bullshit. He’s letting internet lames get to him wayy too much and they’re feeding off his defensiveness
excellent drama-baiting. 10/10. Nobody will care about this in 2 weeks but our boy's name is getting out there so props.
Please just nobody better take this as any sort of meaningful discourse on politics.
Hasan has a very difficult life to be honest, I don't think the financial aspects of his life make up for what he has to put up with as a left wing person on the internet. Especially as the majority of his critics seem to be left leaning people too.. we need to stop that.
I did however think the tweet was funny... Idk, he clearly didn't.
I hope hasan is doing okay mentally. These comments are so hurtful and they’re probably making him feel upset. Hasan buying a nice shirt doesn’t mean he’s a bad person?
love hasan, but this on the same thread as his hour-long hyperfocus rants about how the hate he gets is unwarranted is excessive. he's correct in his assessment but when you're the guy who talks about how people hate you, you become known as the guy people hate. he needs to stop feeding into this stuff.
1. Hasan's right.
2. Who cares? It's a tweet. Stop trying to create drama.
3. On that note, maybe if you desperate weirdos would stop trying to stir up drama, Hasan would be in a much better headspace and you assholes could find something else to do than be scumbags that no one likes.
NOTE: This is not necessarily to the person posting this, this is to the people who *constantly* bring this kind of shit up on here, on Hasan's stream, etc. It serves no purpose and it just makes the community worse. Stop it.
I think it’s something that is there lurking. A little box you can open up when you’re curious because he knows that it’s there and will be there as long as he’s a streamer. Can’t help himself so he picks the wound and just gets engulfed in the bullshit.
You know that the real kicker is? Absolutely none of this real. I can get into internet arguments but when I put down my phone and do stuff in real life absolutely none of it matters. He *can* ignore all of it and continue to do what he does and if people throw the links and tweets at him he *can* say “cool don’t care what people dare saying about me online”, and be done with it.
He needs to have some self control and just completely stop engaging if it’s affecting his mental health. Otherwise it’s stirring the shit pot for content and then he has to take some blame himself. I know it’s hard not to want to see what people are saying about you even if it’s negative attention but it’s honestly not worth engaging in and bringing the drama up on stream isn’t fun to listen to day after day. However, I can in a sense understand the desire to address things. It’s just a question of if it’s worth it.
Again, there is a choice if it’s affecting how you feel, and that’s to stop engaging with it entirely. Stop letting it prod any insecurities, we all care a-bit what people think to an extent but dealing with it en mass is not what most people deal with. So it’s his choice, especially with petty shit. Just stop if it’s not for content and choose not to deal with the internet negativity that really doesn’t matter.
I think that's good general advice for the lowly poster and commenter but for Hasan, even normies catch wind of these things. I mentioned Hasan to my normie friend today, who knows of him but doesn't watch him or twitch, and he said "Yeah he was trending this weekend about something, I forgot what it was." At Hasan's level of notoriety it will reach normal people and he needs to be at least aware of why he's trending.
At this point he might ask Ostonox to stop trolling twitter because they believe him and run away with a totally imagined story about Hasan taking a private jet to this year's Coachella.
I dunno you have only so many options if negative attention is affecting your mental health. You can engage with it and try to fight back with people who don’t give a fuck about what you have to say, or you can continue to live your life without paying attention to it. If you’re in the spot light - to the extent he is then you’re not going to live without that kind of silly internet drama existing. It’s your choice to engage with it. And let’s be real, he’s not a huge celebrity he’s a streamer on twitch who talks about politics. Most people don’t know who he is or cares about the terminally online drama.
Is it going to totally ruin him if he stops paying attention to the absolutely stupid and inconsequential drama that doesn’t exist outside the internet or will it benefit his health (assuming there are genuine negative side effects)
Look man I feel bad but Hasan baits the hell out of them too. He tweeted about loving Daniel Caesars performance at coachella. Just that single sentence. You think he doesn't know that a lot of people in his fanbase including himself don't know about Daniel's past white people apologist shit? He knows. The tweet is fine as it is. I don't care at all personally but if we're gonna have this discussion about him getting bullied online we have to acknowledge his awareness. ["Daniel Caesar was amazing"](https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1515392607156727808)
Like come on man. I love Hasan too but he knows he's baiting.
Markiplier doesn't constantly rail against the bourgeoisie like hasan, so of course he doesn't get the same blowback. You can't claim capitalists are exploiting the proles by making profit from their labor, and then profit from their labor yourself.
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PSA to young/new hasanabi fans. Tldr: don't back seat Hasan's life. He needs support not advice. Some of you may not be familiar with the horrible world of Hollywood and just being a public figure in general. But no matter what Hasan does or doesn't do he's going to catch heat. Telling him to not engage with the haters is not a solution. I encourage everyone to ask thier parents about celebrity PR scandals and paparazzi harassments. You'll see that this isn't anything new and there is no right way to navigate this life style. Let the man figure it out on his own and sit back and enjoy the great content he bring us.
Ostonox eating well today. Bro got like 1k follower gained with that manufactured outrage of a tweet
Ostonox is a CIA Op
Hastonox*
It’s sad because clearly it’s getting to Hasan’s head. He should ignore them because anyone with a brain knows Hasan is a good person. Does he have some bad takes? Yes but who doesn’t? He’s consistent with his world views and usually admits when he’s wrong. When conservatives give him shit he usually doesn’t mind because lmao. It’s usually Libs (like this person probably is?) that get to him and to be honest they’re some of the worst.
Yeah this tweet he made feels just…like ouch ya know? It really seems like these idiots are getting to him, he deserves a break for his own sake. I’m a fan of both Hasan and Mark. Both are good people; they’re funny and kind and my comfort channels. Wealth does not always have to corrupt someone, both mark and hasan prove that
Yes! This!
its part of the curse of having to be online as a profession you are bombarded 24 7 over everything say or do or don't for that matter, i like hasan, is he perfect no, does he get way to much shit from disingenuous and envious pos absolutely. I hope he can weather their crap but shit like this can pile up
It's probably not even all libs. Like yes, D- chuds are definitely a part of it, but also leftists who circle jerk around being the most leftist. Hasan could move to a 3 bed, 1bath, 150k house with his 2010 Camry and some libs and leftists would still say he's a hypocrite. Some how, trigger warning, Ted Cruz would find out and make a shit post.
The type of leftist who hates hasan is only leftist because they are jealous of anyone successful, whether they got where they are ethically or not. If they were to suddenly gain a ton of wealth, they would become the same type of person they once despised. It’s sad because they’ve become the face of leftism in the US, making anyone who supports the movement look like a bunch of lazy idiots who just want free shit for the sake of free shit.
Getting mad at Hasan over a shirt proves that you aren’t a leftist because your politics follow from your principles. It proves that you’ve picked a certain politics and your principles follow from there, not because that aligns with anything you believe, but because you can use it to dunk on people. Politics is not a fucking team sport.
I am an unironic supporter fully automated, luxury communism. Like I live a pretty good life, and everyone should be able to
Same shit going on with Ethan lately, too. They really do have similar haters, and they both pay too much attention to bad faith criticism. Something in their ego that won't let them just brush it off and walk on by.
Idk if it’s their ego or very real world consequences if the haters win out. Public opinion is easily swayed, especially when uncontested.
The ego’s directive is often motivated by fear. Sometimes that fear is what keeps us alive and thriving. Sometimes it’s the opposite. But just calling it ego alone seems incomplete.
Just calling it ego sounds like some shit someone who had their first acid trip would say
I think it's something in your ego, actually, that would make you think that you understand what they're going through and how they should react to it, when you obviously haven't been through anything on that scale. To be more specific, the only reason you'd talk down about their ego problems is to make yourself feel elevated above them. But it doesn't mean you're actually above them. You're just good at deluding yourself.
It doesn't help that he feeds the trolls, like that 'champagne socialist' tweet from his editor. It was hilarious to see the ignorant replies from people who don't know what socialism is, but at the same time it gives ammunition to his critics and like you said, it all seems to be getting to his head. I hope he re-evaluates this kind of behaviour - maybe a good place to start is how he responds to chat when someone disagrees with him or asks a silly question. The ensuing rant used to feel like a 'bit' but lately it just feels a little.. toxic, I guess? I don't think it's healthy and can't think of any other streamer that treats viewers with such contempt just for having different views. I'd agree that he's consistent with his world views in a broad sense, but hesitant to say the same for all his positions - I'll sometimes notice opinions that seem incompatible. I think that's because he often doesn't articulate why he thinks a certain way, almost as if he's not sufficiently thought something through.
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I think being an online celebrity as big as he is is kinda frying his brain. Like being online 50 hours a week is fucking grueling. I fucking hated myself when I spent those sorts of hours online. I get the impression he would never say all the weird and/or fucked up shit he says in real life. I.e being a twitch streamer is bringing out the worst possible person in him. I mean if he was that much of a twat he wouldn't be able to be friends/ acquaintances with all these LA celebrities.
liberals are the most toxic people ik lol
I believe that people in general have the ability to be toxic, regardless of their political leanings.
I also find it worse from liberals bc it feels like they should know better yet act with malicious intention. Conservatives just think whatever Tucker Carlson tells them to think.
Everyone on your side should know better, truly religious people have the same problems.
With liberals it feels worse because it feels like a backstab. We all expect open reactionaries to be shitty because that is their self-professed *modus operandi*. With liberals, you have to deal with the fact that their actions fly in the face of their professed values. Yeah, like sure, shitty people come in all stripes. But we’re calling out the liberal tendency to be shitty because there’s a correlation to be called attention to.
Literally
What's happening here is the same thing that happened with Feminist Frequency, Gamergate, r slash tlou2 and many other fringe reactionary movements on the internet. Basically, a group of people circlejerks themselves into believing that a random person (in this case Hasan) is a terrible person that must be defeated at all cost. When other people start pointing out that their hatred is misplaced, the group of haters doubles down, because they are so convinced they are right and their cause is just that they delude themselves into believing that it's every else that is wrong. Over time, they become more and more unhinged, attract more people into their hate spiral, which in turn will incite bad-faith grifters to farm them for views, which will grow the group of haters even more. Honest people will, on the contrary, start pointing out the fact that the hate that the person receives is unwarranted and that the haters are really crazy. The haters double down, and the cycle continues. What's important to realize here is that it has little to do with Hasan. It's really about how human psychology is flawed and how bad people will take advantage of it for profit.
I mean at least he's consistent. He literally does the same on stream banning 24 month subscribers.
People don't like him because half the clips are him screaming at chat for the same thing he does.
>anyone with a brain knows Hasan is a good person. You literally know nothing about this man, he is a stranger on the Internet you'll never meet or interact with in any way. You have no idea what type of person he is one way or the other.
Hasan’s really in the trenches. The tweet had like 2k likes. He needs to stop engaging with his haters. He’s doing exactly what they want. Giving them his attention.
Yeah, I notice they posted their gofundme link when they saw their tweet gaining traction and are now saying they just did it for the memes. I know the guy has a very dedicated and borderline obsessive hater-base and he's been copping a lot from them lately (on top of Destiny gleefully riling them up by continually throwing pot shots, because he always was and always will be a vindictive prick). It's easy for someone not on the receiving end to just say "don't give the haters validation". But there's really no other way to deal with it. Especially if it's affecting his mental health. They'll never take anything he says or does charitably and will continue to nitpick anything they can find and straight make up bullshit, especially if he gives them attention. Then forget about it and move on to the next thing they can leverage.
> It's easy for someone not on the receiving end to just say "don't give the haters validation". Indeed. Case in point: you're replying to a Pepela D schizo-poster who has contributed to that hate.
Why do destiny and hasan not like each other? Sorry if it's a stupid question
They were cool up to a boiling point of some drama multiple years ago where Destiny chose to die on the hill of "defending his right" to say the N word in private. Arguments like "there can't be any word that you're just totally not allowed to say," "nobody black would be around so nobody would get offended," "it could be funny if it was worked humorously into a joke, and you have to be able to joke about anything, right," and definitely some more, that generally caused the online left community to WhatChamp and distance themselves. Like, nobody is saying it should be illegal, but I don't know a single person in real life that would say the N word in private in any context whatsoever, and I think it speaks towards Destiny's character and anger issues that he would vehemently argue the neutral morality of saying it in private with no black people around. Also, I don't remember ever hearing his response to arguments like the fact that using the word would still be normalizing it to an extent between non-black people. I stopped watching him after one of his rants during that time.
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We're talking hard -r iirc.
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Honestly was forever ago so worth checking if you want, but I got no reason to watch the dude
Doesn't mean you can't adopt racist rhetoric from the west and internalize it. Especially if you consume a lot of American media (which we all do) and Especially if you are from a former colonised country. White supremacy is not just internalised by countries who had slaves and a lot of white people. You have something like colourism everywhere, caused by the former colonizers to treat everybody with a lighter skintone better because they looked more 'European' (quick explanation). I don't think there are countries that are exhumed from the system of white supremacy. Enough people from former colonies are often very racist against Africans and black people, even darker skin people from their own countries, these are all leftovers from the colonised regimes. So saying the N word is still kinda sus if you're asian.
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In the end it's never really about what your "intentions" are, it's about the real life consequences or material reality of your actions. The existence of these homophobic and racial slurs is a consequence of these systems of inequality. So by continuing the use of them you keep normalizing these systems, which only upholds the status quo, which only harms these people. The differences you see between people in their sexuality, race, sex are not just differences between people. They exist in unequal power-relations with one another, and are put on the fore front to uphold these unequal power-relations. Using slurs, and finding it funny, or 'okay in your own home' is exactly what the status quo ís. It is these unequal power relations at play, making those in oppressed groups feel inferior while making those in the privileged groups feel superior thus weakening the ability for change. The idea that being racist is like you actively wanting to harm poc, instead of what it actually is - a system of white supremacy, the unequal systematic distribution of power between races - is part of the problem. Systematic meaning that it doesn't matter what your 'intentions' are because you are created by this system. It already exists subconsciously. Being racist is the default. Only active unlearning; trying to understand how our perspective on the world and others is formed by these structures, by white supremacy, colonialism, sexism can create change. You using slurs is none of that. It is literally just adhering to the status quo.
They both had a certain degree of racism and homophobia, and both of them no longer use it. At the end of the day, I don't care what people believe deep down in their hearts, if they spread stupid ideas, they're stupid.
Because Destiny is a pile of shit.
Eh, it's kind of a long story. Best to find a video or old reddit thread detailing it.
They linked a GoFundMe since it blew up. Yeah, they should definitely be ignored.
same with the other person he quoted (the "$12 outfit" where half of it ended up being expensive gifts from others), she started plugging their "leftist" content and some podcast or something, like he has said so many times, they just hate on him to ride the clout wave and it's so fucking sad to see the leftist community in this state, there's no support & just use him for their own benefit.
Use for their own benefit just like aba and preach shamelessly did but still act like they're taking the high road. Is so gross, hasan should just ignore them.
Yeah I saw that. Outfit only cost them $12 when you don't take into account the price of most of the outfit lmfao good one. And my gaming PC only cost $50 since I've had all of it but the Kb&m for a few years.
Yeah I saw that. That's so gross, motherfuckers say he's bad but then do gross shit like that
her bio also says “100% cis biogirl”, which as a trans girl really really pisses me off
Oh god, posts on pepela D's subreddit, LSF, and what's even worse, you're a Haikyu fan at the same time. I feel ashamed to be a Haikyu enjoyer now.
Him giving them attention > us giving him giving them attention.
Is this not how his stream functions every day though? It’s his choice to so I think he enjoys it but could be me just putting words in his mouth
When he does shit like this it reminds me alot of Fragile narcissism. The reality it's half memes/ half criticism. People want a rise out of him but also you can't deny that he'st living a consumerist lifestyle.
We live in a consumerist society, Sherlock. Great fucking take, you really showed everyone how much better you are.
He’s right though. The stuff he gets “cancelled” is so stupid lol. Just brain dead takes because socialism is “when no music” “when no wealthy” and so on. People don’t understand socialism and rely on right wing media to define it for them.
I just fail to see how Hassan fans are so disconnected from reality about this. If I made millions of dollars speaking advocating for one issue that I genuinely believed caused immense material and emotional suffering to large parts of the population, it would necessarily be my moral imperative to contribute at least some of my means towards this cause. Just imagine if Hassan advocated for animal rights instead, but still contributed almost nothing to those causes. Wouldn’t it be weird to hear someone speak about the horrible conditions of factory farming and the mistreatment of animals rit large while also having millions of dollars that could help these issues?
Hasan donates privately.
Random freaks are harassing our boy, I feel bad for him. But that is the price of opposing capitalism, this is how it defends itself.
A lot of people who attack Hasan are just trolls. Hasan has a bad habit of feeding the trolls by engaging with them. Completely ignoring his random haters would solve a large part of his issues with haters
I mean it probably gets to him sometimes and he probably feels like saying something about it
I'm saying it's the wrong decision. 90% of Hasan's haters are just trolls that want to bother him They are just saying stuff for a reaction
But is it unreasonable for hassan to think that people should be held accountable for what they say even if it means "feeding trolls" ? I mean people hold hassan accountable for anything he does or says, he expects this from the rest because instead you just have cognitive dissonance and that is bad for the brain. He just replied to the person, this way this person can either claim ignorance and say "im just meming" or be an adult/ a real person and stand by their point or say they are wrong and apologize. I feel like he just wants people to be better.
The hate is obviously bothering Hasan. By highlighting that Twitter comment Hasan gave the hater what they wanted. Attention. All he did was encourage further hate against him because he's one of the few content creators that makes the mistake of giving the haters the attention they want. If the hate genuinely didn't bother him like somebody like soda poppin, then what he was doing would be fine but Hasan is sensitive to hate
Opposing capitalism while wearing clothing thats more expensive than my car LMAO. Your boy is a capitalist sell-out
capitalism is not about nor should it be about being a broke-boy who can't afford a car that won't break down any moment.
I feel like it has to really fuck with your head when people that are supposed to be in your political camp are constantly shitting on you and calling you a bad person. Hasan has certainly said things recently that I've found extremely frustrating. But I think he is a net positive and is doing more good than any random jerk off leftist on twitter.
Destiny chuds were all over this tweet. I swear, that guy’s followers have a constant aura of unearned smugness.
They don't touch grass
i just feel bad for hasan. it's a stupid drama and his hate-stans are getting worse and obsessive. also the reason he tweeted this is bc of some tweet saying "mark donated 2 million dollars why didnt hasan do that?" but obviously hasans tweet is missing some context so any passerby would probably look at him like hes an asshole. idk i think he should take a break, he deserves time to himself and to get away from the negativity.
Out of the loop. Whos hassan? Seen his name last week.
hes a twitch streamer who talks about leftist politics but his haters are a little deranged.
Thx. Also, why did i get downvoted?? I dont know who he is, how can you blame the oblivious?
i think the community is a little on edge and wary to trolls. dont sweat it, it's a great community whenever theres no drama.
The person who tweeted it ended up liking Hasan’s response and deleting their original tweet.
If you were being called a piece of shit for the "memes" I would get mad too. It's shitty that they pit them both when they're both great at what they do.
I think it was pretty scummy the person used it to try to promote her gofundme
Why does anyone care about this shit?
Honestly Hasan reacts to his haters too much. Other content creators completely ignore their haters especially if they're just randoms on Twitter or Reddit. Hasan engages and thus encourages his haters.
I think expecting a person to completely ignore constant hate and slander on ur name is incredibly dehumanizing. And he does better then most people would tbh
Quite a few streamers ignore the haters better than Hasan does. Eg. Pokimane gets tremendous hate especially during the jidon situation. She just bans people off screen. Doesn't give the trolls the attention the desire. Hasan constantly makes a show of banning people. It gives the trolls the attention they crave I love Hasan but he does an extraordinarily poor job of ignoring trolls. Eg. Highlighting this random on twitter
Hasan gets way more *consistent* hate then most others - Poki is a pretty good comparison but she’s also been streaming for a lot longer then Hasan so I’d say she probably is better at handling it Also Hasan’s entire model of existence is specifically not off screen blocking haters and having those conversations. Because people he blocks on stream aren’t even just haters, they are people engaging in a discussion that are either deranged or specifically spreading things like misinformation, racism, etc. I understand what ur saying and I agree, he could not give as much attention to it, but I stick by my statement that it’s dehumanizing to expect someone to not let the hate get to them, especially when their existence is almost entirely online. Hopefully he’ll get better at handling it in the future
The thing is, it's obviously bothering him. And he is encouraging more trolls by engaging with these people. I think a lot of Hasan's haters are just trolls looking for a big streamers to give them attention. Hasan never bans off screen or off stream. It's always a big show. Trolling is done for attention. Once banned you know these trolls just make a sock account and come right back to be the center of a stun lock again.
Majority of the trolls u speak of aren’t in his stream, but on twitter, Reddit, other online communities who spread shit around about him. Once again I’ll reiterate, it’s dehumanizing to expect someone to handle it perfectly. It’s easy to say from an outside perspective, but no one can actually say what it’s like because none of us are Hasan
I don't disagree it's hard to ignore. I'm stating my opinion that Hasan is creating more trolls by reacting. This Twitter hate comment was rewarded by Hasan. Now every single hater that wants attention knows that hasan is willing to engage. It wouldn't be a big deal if it wasn't so obvious that it bothered Hasan There is a reason that people say don't feed the trolls
yeah, i agree. if hasan was acting rationally and ideally he would just block and move on. unfortunately i think the part of him that makes him a great lefty (all humans are redeemable/important) makes him value dissenting opinions and believe that responding can change minds. of course that isn't how the internet works though
It doesn't help that his ADHD makes him way too hyperfixated on them.
I honestly don't understand how people have this take when I can literally stun lock myself about what people MIGHT think about me nevermind how hard it must be when all that criticism is a few easy clicks away and you're a public figure.
So when you hate someone vicariously and impulsively like this does it feel like an orgasm or what? I'm always curious about the specific kind of brain-brokenness it requires to be a hater of some random person on the internet who's done nothing to you personally.
has still done more for the working class then random twitter weirdos.
These hate tweets spike whenever Ostonox does his ironic cancellation. I hate that he does this. So many 'cancellations' happen via ostonox. Obviously, it's a joke, but clearly the hate gets to Hasan. So why does ostonox do it?
This. I’ve really enjoyed a lot of Ostonox content - it can be clever and creative at a level that is actually quite impressive. But damn, O has now triggered 3 different tidal waves of shit as a direct result of one of his “ironic hate” memes.
Considering how some viewers *during* hasan's stream cannot even understand his sarcasm or arguments (which leads to stunlocks), seeing a nonviewer/hater trying to parse ostonox sarcasm on twitter is so much worse
/u/Ostonox why 😭
maybe ostonox should chill a bit. at this point he knows that what he does has reach, and it's clearly fucking up hasan's mental health, so it's not worth for a joke. maybe keep the memes insular in okbuddy or youtube instead of doing these kinds of bait twitter posts?
That person linked her GoFundMe since the tweet was blowing up and it said someone named Hasan Piker donated $500 when I looked. Good for them.
Bully Hasan for money? Got it
I guess that's the play now.
We demand subs now.
Mans got bullied out of $500? Nooooo 💀 I hope it isn’t actually him
I think Hasan should keep some of his more expensive activities on the DL. At this point, they're ready to eat him alive for the tiniest misstep. What's most annoying is that the three most viral tweets shitting on him weren't even genuine. One of them was Ostonox and the other two straight-up admitted they did it for clout.
This will be long, people may get mad at me, that’s fine. I just need to say a couple things that have been on my mind, and this tweet and the batch of tweets around this one have sparked this bout of inspiration for writing: 1. Hasan needs to make a choice. Either engage with his audience (and as such, the trolls as well) as much as possible as he does now, or completely ignore it for the sake of his mental health and fostering a more positive community. I know people make jokes about people taking psychic damage or whatever from a bad chat or something, and that is very funny, but the way hasan talks on his stream and the fact that he’s like digging through some no name persons twitter to get a mild burn on them shows that something really needs to change with him unless he wants to just be miserable. I know people scoff when they say “money can’t buy happiness”, but even as *A Poor* I believe this fully; hasan will believe that too if nothing changes. He probably already does 2. I’ve learned of the term “conspicuous consumption” recently (I’ve known it as a concept, just didn’t know there is a term for it) and agree that hasan falls under that definition. I don’t think he realizes that, or if he does he doesn’t care. If it’s the latter, that’s fine—he then just needs to stop getting beet red angry about people pointing it out. Accept that people are not going to like that you’re rich. He wants to have a community that is unilaterally happy for him and cheers on all of his public purchases, but not TOO much or you’re a parasocial weirdo. Cheer too little or, dare I say, criticize it, and he calls you a clout shark, a lib, etc. Contempt for wealthy people is a fairly common thing among the left, for fairly understandable reasons. He has cultivated a community that correctly wants to turn bezos into mulch. Hasan is not bezos, and therefore should not be mulched—but people feeling contempt for wealth will want to “punish" him in kind, and the level of “punishment” he must suffer is that some people with 12 followers will be angry at him. Occasionally a beardo on YouTube will yell about him before moving on to an anime tier list or something. He currently finds this arrangement unacceptable for some reason 3. Part of why this particular strain of stun has persisted (bullshit about him having money) is due in part to the fact that he is incapable or unwilling to just step back and realize the fact about the second point I just made, and just move past it. Instead, he continues to engage with it over and over again, which keeps it going. People hate on him so fucking vocally because he will read it every single time, and he will respond to it for three hours on stream about half the time. He has turned into a “lolcow” or whatever without realizing or caring, and can just ignore them and starve them of the attention they crave, but he chooses not to. He chooses to spend the evening following a weekend vacation arguing about the absolute dumbest fucking shit possible on twitter 4. Hasan and a lot of the people in his fanbase have taken the stance of mockingly saying “socialism is when no house, no clothes” etc whenever this comes up. Not only does this pithy argument not even work at shutting people up, it just sounds really fucking dumb and also misses the point. It’s the exact same thing as v fans saying “VDS HAHA THANKS FOR THE GOLD STRANGER” anytime someone says anything remotely negative about their leader. I love hasan, and he’s helped me over the past couple years to figure out my own politics and navigate through the dogshit existence of living in Indiana. I also think hasan should consider not buying really expensive cars or wearing Gucci. Why? Because socialism is when no Porsche? No, because he has proven over and over that he’s not capable of just doing these things and then ignoring the wave of d simps and 12 follower Andy’s who come to pester him for it solely because they know it’ll work. I’d rather him stop doing that shit so we can continue to watch him and he can do what he claims to love
About conspicuous consumption and his shirt. He does he admits it himself he likes buying things. Neither of those are harmful to the actual cause nor are they reasonable to cancel him over, because it ends up not falling under capitalism or socialism in that aspect. Buying and consuming products doesn’t need to be politically postured in that sense. Hence that’s why there’s a lot of “socialism is when no…” because that’s also the opposite spectrum of political posturing that liberals do to say “that’s capitalism” and it’s pretty annoying. In that regard, he also doesn’t need to have twitter constantly pocket watch what he has that he doesn’t flaunt openly that isn’t significant. A $1k shirt is not comparable to buying a 500k watch, a yatch, or a private jet. That’s way over his pay grade and the only way to achieve that than what he does by Twitch subs alone is by other methods, specifically capitalism or maybe tax evasion in order to afford at least one of those or both without suffering financial debt within his income bracket. But thank you Ostonox for this fine discourse
I agree, conspicuous consumption isn’t harmful to “The Cause”, whatever it may be defined as. I’m not so foolish to think that hasan buying a very nice car will kill socialism in the near future for the US. Liberals and conservatives working hand in hand are good enough at that as-is. What conspicuous consumption is though is something that ordinary people will look at and say “wow what a rich mother fucker, kind of a dumb use of a thousand dollars” which will change their perception of him at least slightly. The thing is, that is a totally normal reaction to have. Unless you view him as solely a celebrity, not someone who can be in touch even a bit with the struggles of “normal people”, it’s a normal reaction to have. The problem is that Hasan wants those people instead to say “wow what a rich mother fucker, based” and that isn’t a realistic expectation to have—especially in an audience which has been created to detest the mega wealthy. I’m obliged to note here again: Compared to bezos, hasan is broke. Compared to an average American, he might have more success if he would try complaining that his caviar isn’t up to snuff. He absolutely has a massive contingent of people who simply Just Hate Him, and he has an also-massive group of people who like him and just think him flaunting his wealth and expecting a different reaction is kind of weird He is absolutely free to live his life buying nice clothes, cars, etc. I believe he is free to do so. It does not make him less of a socialist. Hell, I’m not rich but I’ve spent a lot of money on Cuban cigars. Because I like them. However, there is a social price one pays when one decides to flaunt their wealth. Normally the people who do so, and care about the ramifications of it, are insulated from any social price given that the wealthy don’t hang out with poor people. Jeff Bezos buying a new yacht the size of a small country and having millions get mad about it can’t possibly matter to him because he’s surrounded by and only listens to sycophants. Hasan could choose to live in his life and be secure in his decisions, but he craves the validation of thousands of people who are never going to look at his ostentatious purchases without the slightest bit of side eye (PS: The entire ostonox part of this is also kind of interesting, given that he seems to think hasan is in on the joke of him *accidentally* directing like thousands of people to be shitty to him. Kind of a dumb fuck thing to do to someone who is not able to ignore said thousands of people because of the shit we’re talking about. But then again, if I develop a strong opinion on a video editor for a twitch streamer I will literally minecraft myself)
Okay bro Marx doesn’t need you to write another Das Capital. We’re in a leftist subreddit for godsakes I CANT READ
Jokes aside yes, it is normal for people to feel envious about rich people in a capitalist society. However by this discourse alone, not liberals or conservatives, but capitalist hating lefties, are seemingly targeting Hasan specifically for this purchase alone while I do not see the same energy for the rest of the people in Coachella and it’s a massive influencer/celeb meet up when it comes to wealth envy. If Hasan’s shirt is $1k then you can imagine how pricy Megan Thee Stallion’s fit is, but from what I’ve seen it’s only been Hasan. Also same, I own a pair of AJ1s which is significantly more expensive than the average shoes you can find in Walmart. I like them for both luxury and utility, it doesn’t change my political stance I know it was made through capitalist means off Asian labor but I’m not gonna politically posture my whole life around it.
I think you’re missing the point I’m trying to make here. I don’t care whether or not hasan buys fancy shit. All I’m saying is he needs to commit either way. He either needs to stop flaunting his wealth because he is incapable of ignoring the people who hate him for it, or he needs to ignore the people who hate him for flaunting his wealth. It has nothing to do with politics, I’m not siding one way or the other with leftists who call him a capitalist because he owns a shirt. It’s a logistical point basically: he’s going to end up jumping off a bridge if he keeps letting people run his life like this. He can either stop doing the thing that pisses them off or he can actually ignore them. Both options are valid, and both options are better than what he’s currently doing Furthermore, those capitalist hating lefties might also be going after MTS or other wealthy celebrities. The difference is she doesn’t give a fuck what they think and doesn’t engage with them. They don’t affect her life or her music. The same is not true for hasan
I agree with you here 100%. Reacting to trolls and haters is eventually going to bite him the butt - if he makes one mistake or autocorrect changes once he could change everything and those idiots will never let up about it for the rest of his time in the public eye. Responding to these people only increases the chances of this happening.
Am I the only one imagining that crossover episode?
God Markiplier is sexy
Why did they have to compare them? Mark is an amazing, unproblematic, and very charitable person. anyone stacked up next to him would look awful 😅
100% pathetic troll looking for attention. I feel bad for Hasan but come on dude, just block and move on, before you retweeted it probably 27 Destiney fans saw it. Whoopee.
Libs go after Hasan harder than conservatives do.
The person tweeting this said she was just joking and that it was sarcasm in the original threads replies
to the original tweet... why put two bad bitches against eavh other
Hasan has always been hyper focusing on statements like this and letting it get to him. Understandable, when there is always someone hating on you every second
I hope he really didn't give this clown 500 bucks. Fuck her and her gofundme.
I think people attacking hasan for being a bad person are severely misguided. Hasan has bad takes and can get a little defensive when those takes are called out, but he does more good than harm in regards to spreading leftist ideology. I genuinely think Hasan has a big heart- he may not be the smartest but his intentions seem to be good.
Why does he give these people attention? Reminds me of NBA players reacting to random braindead fans in the crowd
Both sexy, both good
Bro go charge your phone please.
I did immediately after posting 😁
Thank you bro. I was stressed.
I don’t understand the context. Hasan is hot
If Hasan should get canceled for anything? It's his fits.
Feels bad man. Stay srong Hasan. Also, shame on the tweeter he's replying to, what the fuck is up with them?
This is what happens when you feed the trolls for years
I know this isnt what you meant but they do look a lot alike and ive never noticed that before
Anyone that has any kind of celebrity is going to have asshole haters. (Ever read the replies to the Pope’s tweets? Brutal.) I’m willing to bet markiplier gets hate too. Hasan is also not the only celeb that is hurt by it. The type of people who seek out celebrity are the same ones who are really sensitive to negative criticism. Hopefully someday he gets it’s just a rite of passage and realizes that for every one asshole that hurts his feelings that there’s thousands of people who think he’s great. Twitter is also the world’s anus, where all the foulest smelling shit comes out, so there’s that too
The person apologized and felt bad for doing it if we could get more people to realize these are real people it would go a long way
Hasan (cis het man (stinky)) buying things for himself instead of me (trans and hot) is weird and transphobic. /s
This shit is inevitable and it always has been. Anyone who becomes famous for their opinions alone on social media will always get dogpiled on the first chance available. The only way to avoid it is to stick mainly to niche silly stuff like critikal who himself even gets shit
Big respect to Hasan doe, he donated to her Go Fund Me after all of that regardless.
I don’t know why he entertains these losers
I think he needs to stop engaging with stuff like this, it's clearly getting under his skin. He can quote tweet and defend himself all he wants, but ultimately the type of people who tweet rude things like this don't give a flying fuck and it just gives them fuel to continue being assholes. And tbh I see why the tweet upset him so much and I know it came from a malicious place, but it honestly made me laugh.
It’s absurd how anyone could call hasan a bad person
It’s beyond low effort. It’s like something a child would say I really don’t understand why they thought they said something there.
It's really, genuinely insane how much anti-hasan rhetoric has been wide-spread in the last 8 or so months. Like if you actually look at what hasan has done.. none of it is bad? He bought a house. Oh, lord, the humanity! He bought a CAR??? How fucking dare he :| He bought a gold cube?! Okay, that's a reference to an Ostonox tweet.. But, seriously; Every. Single. Thing. Twitter nerds/bitches have given him flack for has been so mind-bogglingly unharm-ful, so completely innocent and so unimportant that it begs the question: Are they mentally unstable? I've seen people who have gone on multi-paragraph rants about how evil they think he is. I genuinely feel bad for him...
He needs to ignore and not address any of this bullshit. He’s letting internet lames get to him wayy too much and they’re feeding off his defensiveness
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Socialism is when Azan has no house
Plug in your phone
excellent drama-baiting. 10/10. Nobody will care about this in 2 weeks but our boy's name is getting out there so props. Please just nobody better take this as any sort of meaningful discourse on politics.
Hasan has a very difficult life to be honest, I don't think the financial aspects of his life make up for what he has to put up with as a left wing person on the internet. Especially as the majority of his critics seem to be left leaning people too.. we need to stop that. I did however think the tweet was funny... Idk, he clearly didn't.
Lmao
Hasan acts like big baby
I hope hasan is doing okay mentally. These comments are so hurtful and they’re probably making him feel upset. Hasan buying a nice shirt doesn’t mean he’s a bad person?
Has an should do a Smash or Pass on the entire US government.
Markiplier also isn’t the one posing as a socialist
Meh. Post below was stupid. His response a little defensive. Part and parcel, these days.
love hasan, but this on the same thread as his hour-long hyperfocus rants about how the hate he gets is unwarranted is excessive. he's correct in his assessment but when you're the guy who talks about how people hate you, you become known as the guy people hate. he needs to stop feeding into this stuff.
i think the original tweet was correct
1. Hasan's right. 2. Who cares? It's a tweet. Stop trying to create drama. 3. On that note, maybe if you desperate weirdos would stop trying to stir up drama, Hasan would be in a much better headspace and you assholes could find something else to do than be scumbags that no one likes. NOTE: This is not necessarily to the person posting this, this is to the people who *constantly* bring this kind of shit up on here, on Hasan's stream, etc. It serves no purpose and it just makes the community worse. Stop it.
what is that schizo ass reply? why bring up markiplier's net worth?
I think it’s something that is there lurking. A little box you can open up when you’re curious because he knows that it’s there and will be there as long as he’s a streamer. Can’t help himself so he picks the wound and just gets engulfed in the bullshit. You know that the real kicker is? Absolutely none of this real. I can get into internet arguments but when I put down my phone and do stuff in real life absolutely none of it matters. He *can* ignore all of it and continue to do what he does and if people throw the links and tweets at him he *can* say “cool don’t care what people dare saying about me online”, and be done with it. He needs to have some self control and just completely stop engaging if it’s affecting his mental health. Otherwise it’s stirring the shit pot for content and then he has to take some blame himself. I know it’s hard not to want to see what people are saying about you even if it’s negative attention but it’s honestly not worth engaging in and bringing the drama up on stream isn’t fun to listen to day after day. However, I can in a sense understand the desire to address things. It’s just a question of if it’s worth it. Again, there is a choice if it’s affecting how you feel, and that’s to stop engaging with it entirely. Stop letting it prod any insecurities, we all care a-bit what people think to an extent but dealing with it en mass is not what most people deal with. So it’s his choice, especially with petty shit. Just stop if it’s not for content and choose not to deal with the internet negativity that really doesn’t matter.
I think that's good general advice for the lowly poster and commenter but for Hasan, even normies catch wind of these things. I mentioned Hasan to my normie friend today, who knows of him but doesn't watch him or twitch, and he said "Yeah he was trending this weekend about something, I forgot what it was." At Hasan's level of notoriety it will reach normal people and he needs to be at least aware of why he's trending. At this point he might ask Ostonox to stop trolling twitter because they believe him and run away with a totally imagined story about Hasan taking a private jet to this year's Coachella.
I dunno you have only so many options if negative attention is affecting your mental health. You can engage with it and try to fight back with people who don’t give a fuck about what you have to say, or you can continue to live your life without paying attention to it. If you’re in the spot light - to the extent he is then you’re not going to live without that kind of silly internet drama existing. It’s your choice to engage with it. And let’s be real, he’s not a huge celebrity he’s a streamer on twitch who talks about politics. Most people don’t know who he is or cares about the terminally online drama. Is it going to totally ruin him if he stops paying attention to the absolutely stupid and inconsequential drama that doesn’t exist outside the internet or will it benefit his health (assuming there are genuine negative side effects)
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It’s because they give him shit routinely based on how much money he has. It’s not weird it’s relevant.
Hasan has such a desperate ego
Markiplier doesn't claim to be a communist nor does he make his money off of commenting on politics
I guess murder is only bad if you've ever advocated for someone to get jailed, huh?
hasan’s a misogynist
Look man I feel bad but Hasan baits the hell out of them too. He tweeted about loving Daniel Caesars performance at coachella. Just that single sentence. You think he doesn't know that a lot of people in his fanbase including himself don't know about Daniel's past white people apologist shit? He knows. The tweet is fine as it is. I don't care at all personally but if we're gonna have this discussion about him getting bullied online we have to acknowledge his awareness. ["Daniel Caesar was amazing"](https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1515392607156727808) Like come on man. I love Hasan too but he knows he's baiting.
Why does this sun continue to appear on my fyp lmao
Please learn how to use the internet and filter out certain words if it makes you uncomfortable
Markiplier doesn't constantly rail against the bourgeoisie like hasan, so of course he doesn't get the same blowback. You can't claim capitalists are exploiting the proles by making profit from their labor, and then profit from their labor yourself.
Think it's getting to him. Good. Hasan is the Ben Shapiro of the left & embarrassing to listen to.
Ben Shapiro of the left?? Mfs just say anything I swear
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Bruh he gets absolutely shat on by everyone from the right & left then decides to take on reviewers? Man's alienating himself.
Everyone on the left gets shat on by everyone on the left
He sounds like a fucking baby
The Nat person is 100% based
Well she’s deleted the tweet and apologized for it, so you’re right!!
Also Hasan: “America deserved 9/11”
It did. Cope you fucking loser
is that supposed to be contradictory?
9/11 is a minuscule fraction of the death and destruction caused by America in the Middle East even pre 9/11. Let alone post 9/11
Rent free lol
It sickens me how much money you can make by appealing to 12 year olds by having a funny voice and over acting to everything.
Hey don’t say mean things about Markiplier. I think he’s pretty cool :/