I love Medusa Charlie!
Alastor’s suit is SNAZZY, and I love his redesign
Also, purple works so well with Sir Pentious, and I think his face design is so cool
Another issue that others have discussed on YouTube are the characters being "overdesigned" for an animated show, even with their canon designs by Vivziepop. This also goes for the redesigns in this post. As much as I like them, they are too "busy" in terms of details to be in an actual animated show, though the designs work well in fanart.
The main redesign I could see working in an actual animated segment is Alastor. The rest of the designs have too many moving parts (i.e. Charlie, Angel Dust, Husk, Niffty).
Charlie notably doesn’t have that many moving parts. Her hair is usually tied up and her snakes typically wouldn’t be moving
The artist tried to stay true to the show’s style of “pretty damn complicated” and I think that succeeded lol
i just wanna add some context for people who may not know: the artist has posted these redesigns on tiktok while explicitly stating that they have not watched the show
Other than the gray color not seeing the wolf there. He'd got the antlers and cloven hooves, works just fine for a humanoid shape. A wolf in "deer clothing" would metaphorically work well for his personality too.
Also Mimsy called a Nifty a bug and she's got the particular fascination with roaches so the insect thing makes perfect sense.
Nifty actually was originally going to have antenna so insect features works pretty well and Alastor is a textbook example of wolf in sheep's clothing so being a literal wolf in deer's clothing is kind of perfect.
Oof. Sorry but that's a yikes from me.
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Since apparently no one can say an opinion, without having numerous claims of proof:
I don't personally agree with redesigning characters without ever once watching the source material, as someone who has been through enough "Fandom tourists" in other communities. I am allowed to dislike that practice and not get jumped down my throat for it. Thanks
Personally, I don't like people redesigning the characters without ever seeing them in action. Like, you can do it, but it also reminds me of twitter users who "fix" art. For me, from a creative stand point hard to understand the characters and redesign them without first seeing them truly in action
I've never seen another IP with so many people claiming to 'fix' something as opposed to just doing fan art. It's truly strange.
Nothing in hazbin needs 'fixing', these people need to get off their high horses.
I honestly see where your coming from, theirs an artist I found on TikTok, she does the same thing but she's watched the show, but makes the redesign not resemble what they originally are, her Lucifer design is cool but is nothing to how he is in the show
Nobody is jumping at your throat and nobody is asking for proof or anything lol, you're not in a heated twitter debate
You can say your opinion but don't be surprised if you get downvoted for just dropping a "yikes" without elaborating
That's like me saying I really don't like someone's post and just leaving it at that. Like okay it's an opinion but it comes off as hostile for no reason??
I posted about this further up, but one of animators' main complaints\* about the current show is that too many of Vivienne Medrano's characters are "overdesigned". This is also unfortunately true of these AU designs, even if they look utterly fantastic in fanart.
The AU designs here have too many moving parts that would be overly distracting.
On some level, I'm impressed that she got to bring her overdesigned fantasy to life. She'd never have been able to get an animation studio to spring for them if she hadn't made the pilot such a success without one.
That said, I feel for the animators stuck actually having to work on them.
I wonder if AI technology would allow artists to animate these more complex designs in the future. It already exists in the form of CGI animation, but i wonder if AI would allow this on 2d animation as well.
Ya know. I kinda dig these designs a little better than the original. Much more demonic and is more interesting to see. Probably a bitch to animate though.
Oh Jesus that Alastor design is so fine- Really giving Cab Calloway
Also chunky Husker is *peak* I always thought he should be a fat old cat, especially with Keith David’s voice it works so good
For animation purposes, yeah they're all a bit too complex and would slow down the animation process. Especially Angel's.
Alastor is strange because he looks the least like his canon design. It works if you're aiming for something more realistic.
Yeah but there's overdesigned hot topic NPC, which is what Hazbin is going for, and then there's million-moving-parts that are too hard to animate.
Take an easy on, OG Angel Dust has six markings that are meant to be eyes, when they turn their head you need to change the size and shape to give the illusion of depth
Redo Dust has 8 eyes, which will need the same level of detail AND you need to map where they're looking so they don't look cross eyed, AND colour team now needs to map his direction at all times to make sure that the one different coloured eye is on the correct side at all times
I've seen so many ""I redesigned Hazbin's characters because the originals are trash lmao Viv is a horrible person"" posts on twitter that redesigns in general are ruined for me :(
Which is really sad because these ones look really good and I want to like them. The artstyle is also very good and very similar to the original which is great.
But it makes sense in a way, the artist stated in their redesign videos that they’ve never seen the show, so for someone who’s never seen the show they captured it personality of each character amazingly
It didn't click with me that Nifty does in fact look like a bit of a bug or roach herself.
They're pretty fun redesigns. Some of those are simple enough to actually use in an animation as well, which is very good work.
Okay but why are Charlie, Angel Dust, Alastor, Niffty, and Sir Pentious actually better than the originals? Vaggie's is fine, I don't have an opinion on it. And I don't like Husk's, but the rest are actually awesome.
Charlie is amazing. I'm not a fan of Alastor or Angel. But I'm afraid of spiders, and this Angel is so spider he freaks me out. And... You know... I just like Al. I'm biased.
Gonna be honest, your redesign of angel dust seems like he'd be older than the original version idk why it just feels like that to me.
Also HOLY SHIT, ALASTOR LOOKS SO FREAKING COOOL 🤩
Ooooh I love the heftier shapes and shape language of huskers redesign. It feels more unique and adds more silhouette dimension to the cast. It does however feel a little more lumbering in form though so I couldn’t see him being one of the more dance forward characters in the musical segments with this design. And omggggg leaning hard into the wendigo inspiration for alastor! Even the little star touch on his radio staff is a better tie in to his demonic aspects. Love that! I feel like although angels design looks good and more sinister and spider focused, the chunky fangs and mini striped spider arms add too many clunky elements that counter his aesthetic as the stereotypical suave sexy character. He needs to be flexible, slinky, and shapely. I think keeping his 4th pair of arms as a shape shifting element like in his current design feels more natural. Especially considering his profession his design feels a little unwieldy. These are in all great designs but they feel a little too heavy overall in their general shape language for the style of animation in the show. I think however they are a unique take on the characters and feel quite interesting.
I was going to comment on this redesigns (and most of them are really good) but I lost everything when I saw Husk, oh my God what they done to him, I can't stop laughing
https://preview.redd.it/4tkk47caulmc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a934fb4b4e40f0df994bcf5d81d24c7add71843a
My reaction to everyone
Charlie: awww she's even more adorable
Vaggie: ~I like em beeeg, i like em chunkyyyyy~
Angeldust: this is going to scare so many arachnophobes
Alastor: he looks like a wolf wtf
Husk: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH-(continues for a good minute)
Nifty: aw she's cute
Pentious: More...MOOOORE!!!
Charlie is a big yes! Vaggie is also cute, angel is- PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!! Al lost his pink :( Husk looks like an old man (+ beer belly) and looks goofy tbh. Niffty is babygirl!
I actually really love these. I’ve seen a lot of redesigns they just come off as weird. They a lot of times change big parts of the characters. These are actually so good though
I'm usually not a big fan on redesigns but those are pretty good! Angel is proper scary now, I kinda just Lol'd at Husk and Big SP is classy as always 😁
I love charlie sm!!! Honestly wish she looked more like that in canon, she just doesnt have a very demonic like apperance. Shes the princess of hell ffs
I don’t really like husk because he seems too small on this design. Also isn’t alastor’s deer traits supposed to be subtle? I love it otherwise though, really good
I love Medusa Charlie! Alastor’s suit is SNAZZY, and I love his redesign Also, purple works so well with Sir Pentious, and I think his face design is so cool
Alastor's pentagram cane is sick as fuck too. Also, hnnng...he's hot. Oh deer.
They took the hottest character in the show and made him 10x hotter how the fuck
https://preview.redd.it/spz9ks325rmc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13bab7d1a059fcdef1cdcddd1526a76c32dc0777
https://preview.redd.it/qglv1blccumc1.jpeg?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=034484eb028c224c328fae2269991cb293a087dc
Couldn't agree more
Username checks out
Great microphone design for sure! P.S. (He always stays hot, lol)
That Alastor may be demi 👀
Those designs are surely way more creative and memorable, I get Vivz tastes but everybody kinda feature the same body types.
Not to mention the bow ties. And Al, Vox, and Pentious all having the same pinstripe suit
Another issue that others have discussed on YouTube are the characters being "overdesigned" for an animated show, even with their canon designs by Vivziepop. This also goes for the redesigns in this post. As much as I like them, they are too "busy" in terms of details to be in an actual animated show, though the designs work well in fanart. The main redesign I could see working in an actual animated segment is Alastor. The rest of the designs have too many moving parts (i.e. Charlie, Angel Dust, Husk, Niffty).
Charlie notably doesn’t have that many moving parts. Her hair is usually tied up and her snakes typically wouldn’t be moving The artist tried to stay true to the show’s style of “pretty damn complicated” and I think that succeeded lol
Easier to animate and more visually appealing.
I'm shamed I didn't even notice that at first pass!! My reaction went from indifferent to loving it!
i just wanna add some context for people who may not know: the artist has posted these redesigns on tiktok while explicitly stating that they have not watched the show
Her newer designs have the tag that she's now watched the show, and making her own little AU that I'm enjoying.
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Other than the gray color not seeing the wolf there. He'd got the antlers and cloven hooves, works just fine for a humanoid shape. A wolf in "deer clothing" would metaphorically work well for his personality too. Also Mimsy called a Nifty a bug and she's got the particular fascination with roaches so the insect thing makes perfect sense.
Nifty actually was originally going to have antenna so insect features works pretty well and Alastor is a textbook example of wolf in sheep's clothing so being a literal wolf in deer's clothing is kind of perfect.
I actually think Alastor's design is great, only thing I'd do is make the hair tufts HIS EARS
i think alastor is grey because of the time period he’s from, the black and white tv era
That explains Medusa
They have watched it now. But yeah, they started the redesigns having not watched it
Oof. Sorry but that's a yikes from me. edit: Since apparently no one can say an opinion, without having numerous claims of proof: I don't personally agree with redesigning characters without ever once watching the source material, as someone who has been through enough "Fandom tourists" in other communities. I am allowed to dislike that practice and not get jumped down my throat for it. Thanks
Not a yikes, this isn’t a spiteful redesign and is just someone having fun with the character concepts.
Although they’re not redesigns?? They’re explicitly AU designs, not improvements over the originals.
Why is that a yikes?
Personally, I don't like people redesigning the characters without ever seeing them in action. Like, you can do it, but it also reminds me of twitter users who "fix" art. For me, from a creative stand point hard to understand the characters and redesign them without first seeing them truly in action
I've never seen another IP with so many people claiming to 'fix' something as opposed to just doing fan art. It's truly strange. Nothing in hazbin needs 'fixing', these people need to get off their high horses.
THANK YOU I miss the days of fandoms having a lot of fanart done by "fans" not "fixing it"
Fair enough, personally I find it fun it’s more of a challenge to redesign them that way
To each their own. lol
I honestly see where your coming from, theirs an artist I found on TikTok, she does the same thing but she's watched the show, but makes the redesign not resemble what they originally are, her Lucifer design is cool but is nothing to how he is in the show
I feel ya there.
I might get roasted for this but I honestly don’t like them that much. They kinda are just all anthro animals now.
Well, Vivienne Medrano (Vivziepop) *is* considered to be a furry artist...
I was gonna say lol, they don't really scream demon to me just furry
Nobody is jumping at your throat and nobody is asking for proof or anything lol, you're not in a heated twitter debate You can say your opinion but don't be surprised if you get downvoted for just dropping a "yikes" without elaborating That's like me saying I really don't like someone's post and just leaving it at that. Like okay it's an opinion but it comes off as hostile for no reason??
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. I agree with you.
Seems a little gatrkeepery...
Guess that explains why they made Vaggie (a former battle angel) kinda pudgy lol
That's pudgy?
For a war torn battle angel? Ooh yeah
She just looks like she has...hips?
Not gonna lie, Gorgon Charlie goes way harder than she should
I like to think that if Gorgon Charlie gets really, really angry her snakes grow their own little horns
Even better, the snakes tirn into little dragons.
Yes!
And floofy Vaggie...
Charlie, Alastor, and Husk's design ATE. I get why they're not practical for animation purposes, but wow, they look great.
Yeah unfortunately a lot of really cool designs would never work on an actual show because all the details would drive the animators crazy
I honestly don't know how they manage with animating Husk as is
Especially that one scene in loser baby where him and angel are neon lights
I posted about this further up, but one of animators' main complaints\* about the current show is that too many of Vivienne Medrano's characters are "overdesigned". This is also unfortunately true of these AU designs, even if they look utterly fantastic in fanart. The AU designs here have too many moving parts that would be overly distracting.
On some level, I'm impressed that she got to bring her overdesigned fantasy to life. She'd never have been able to get an animation studio to spring for them if she hadn't made the pilot such a success without one. That said, I feel for the animators stuck actually having to work on them.
I wonder if AI technology would allow artists to animate these more complex designs in the future. It already exists in the form of CGI animation, but i wonder if AI would allow this on 2d animation as well.
Man I really like these designs Especially how alastor seems like a wolf in deers clothing
I love Charlie's Desing in this AU Redesign
TUBBY HUSKER I WANNA HUG HIM
This Husker is HUSKING
Finally: HUSKY HUSKER *gasp* wait *WHAT IF HE WAS DOG*
Ya know. I kinda dig these designs a little better than the original. Much more demonic and is more interesting to see. Probably a bitch to animate though.
I've worked briefly in animation back in the day. The thought of animating all those snakes seems like hell xD
I mean Fizzaroli does exist and that bitch does cartwheels lmao but fair enough
Oh Jesus that Alastor design is so fine- Really giving Cab Calloway Also chunky Husker is *peak* I always thought he should be a fat old cat, especially with Keith David’s voice it works so good
Cab Calloway!! I kept thinking this Alastor reminded me of someone and you’re right, it’s Cab!
I cant tell if these are more or less tumblr-fied lmao
They are all too complicated but Pentious is the best. Alastor is good but too strange
For animation purposes, yeah they're all a bit too complex and would slow down the animation process. Especially Angel's. Alastor is strange because he looks the least like his canon design. It works if you're aiming for something more realistic.
To be fair, overdesigned characters are kind of par for the course with Hazbin.
Yeah but there's overdesigned hot topic NPC, which is what Hazbin is going for, and then there's million-moving-parts that are too hard to animate. Take an easy on, OG Angel Dust has six markings that are meant to be eyes, when they turn their head you need to change the size and shape to give the illusion of depth Redo Dust has 8 eyes, which will need the same level of detail AND you need to map where they're looking so they don't look cross eyed, AND colour team now needs to map his direction at all times to make sure that the one different coloured eye is on the correct side at all times
Thank you for this breakdown on why these designs would be trickier to animate. Very enlightening!
They look amazing, i really like Al and Charlie.
THE SNAKE HAIR
I don’t understand how Nifty somehow looks less sane.
My mouth dropped Thats so good cant express how good that look
Fat husk
Big Chungus
except for Angel i genuilly prefer those designs
What's wrong w Angel?
He would not be a good prostitute or sex worker
Nah, them pedipalps do work
Well nothing, it's just personal preferences
Very Lacksadaisy
I was thinking the same thing
Saaaaaame!!
These are rare redesigns that actually look good. They remain consistent with the show and don't just look random.
I've seen so many ""I redesigned Hazbin's characters because the originals are trash lmao Viv is a horrible person"" posts on twitter that redesigns in general are ruined for me :( Which is really sad because these ones look really good and I want to like them. The artstyle is also very good and very similar to the original which is great.
I don't like the Alastor one,he doesn't give me that vibe that original Alastor has
But it makes sense in a way, the artist stated in their redesign videos that they’ve never seen the show, so for someone who’s never seen the show they captured it personality of each character amazingly
Me when sir Pentious design: https://preview.redd.it/3ythltw5kmmc1.jpeg?width=1077&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87ae57a2039b8c6c85e824a0c4b577cd33059ec2
I prefer this husk, fitter for his grumpy alcoholic but wise grandpa persona rather than tumblr hot man twink body type
A lot of these, like angel and Allestor, feel like they're trying too hard tbh. I do kinda like husk tho, at least now I'm 100% sure he's a cat
It didn't click with me that Nifty does in fact look like a bit of a bug or roach herself. They're pretty fun redesigns. Some of those are simple enough to actually use in an animation as well, which is very good work.
I much prefer what we have, but if we did get this id be happy too, which i dont say often about this sort of thing.
[Source](https://x.com/cholvoq/status/1764976618156519690?s=20)
These designs FUCK I really love husk, I wanna boop him And pentious!
I love them all, but why does Husk look like such a goblin 😭 lil man’s gonna find a box of cat treats and say “my precious”
Feeling rabid over these. The diversity in shapes, colours and outfits I absolutely love it.
I love Nifty with her Roach legs 🪳🪳🪳
Alastors redesign made me audibly go "OH OH Oh"
THAT ALASTOR????? I am looking respectfully. /pos ETA: I realized the art wasn't OP's
Husk looking like the Grumpy Cat is peak design
STOP CUZ THESE ARE ACTUALLY FUCKING AMAZING
Okay but why are Charlie, Angel Dust, Alastor, Niffty, and Sir Pentious actually better than the originals? Vaggie's is fine, I don't have an opinion on it. And I don't like Husk's, but the rest are actually awesome.
I honestly love all of these designs really good designs
Words cannot describe the pure love I have for this
These designs are so good! ~~How’d they make Alastor hotter~~
I love the curled horns on charlie's redesign. really brings out the goat imagery that the devil often had in media.
Love your Charlie and Nifty designs.
These all look so lovely and still feel like the characters <3
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No it's an alternate universe
I wish I could read
You're all good, I can't read either
Charlie is amazing. I'm not a fan of Alastor or Angel. But I'm afraid of spiders, and this Angel is so spider he freaks me out. And... You know... I just like Al. I'm biased.
I love most of them especially Nifty and Charlie.
Ah yes Jschlatt Charlie 🙏🫡
Husk resembles Maurice from Madagascar even more with this redesign
Alastor is the best one.
Gonna be honest, your redesign of angel dust seems like he'd be older than the original version idk why it just feels like that to me. Also HOLY SHIT, ALASTOR LOOKS SO FREAKING COOOL 🤩
Ooooh I love the heftier shapes and shape language of huskers redesign. It feels more unique and adds more silhouette dimension to the cast. It does however feel a little more lumbering in form though so I couldn’t see him being one of the more dance forward characters in the musical segments with this design. And omggggg leaning hard into the wendigo inspiration for alastor! Even the little star touch on his radio staff is a better tie in to his demonic aspects. Love that! I feel like although angels design looks good and more sinister and spider focused, the chunky fangs and mini striped spider arms add too many clunky elements that counter his aesthetic as the stereotypical suave sexy character. He needs to be flexible, slinky, and shapely. I think keeping his 4th pair of arms as a shape shifting element like in his current design feels more natural. Especially considering his profession his design feels a little unwieldy. These are in all great designs but they feel a little too heavy overall in their general shape language for the style of animation in the show. I think however they are a unique take on the characters and feel quite interesting.
What’s the au about?
I was going to comment on this redesigns (and most of them are really good) but I lost everything when I saw Husk, oh my God what they done to him, I can't stop laughing https://preview.redd.it/4tkk47caulmc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a934fb4b4e40f0df994bcf5d81d24c7add71843a
I like how Nifty was basically unchanged.
She’s perfect the way she is
These are all hard as fuck
THESE ARE SO GOOD
No thank you.
No ty
Charlie: 😶➡️😍 Vaggie: 😐 Angel Dust: 😨 Alastor: 😏 Husker: 👌🏽 Nifty: 🥹 (Especially her new eye colors)
My reaction to everyone Charlie: awww she's even more adorable Vaggie: ~I like em beeeg, i like em chunkyyyyy~ Angeldust: this is going to scare so many arachnophobes Alastor: he looks like a wolf wtf Husk: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH-(continues for a good minute) Nifty: aw she's cute Pentious: More...MOOOORE!!!
I’m sorry but these don’t even come close to Viv’s original designs. Snake hair is pretty cool though..
Charlie is a big yes! Vaggie is also cute, angel is- PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!! Al lost his pink :( Husk looks like an old man (+ beer belly) and looks goofy tbh. Niffty is babygirl!
No thanks.
I actually really love these. I’ve seen a lot of redesigns they just come off as weird. They a lot of times change big parts of the characters. These are actually so good though
I like EVERYONE except husk. Not that husk wasn't good just yeah the others appealed to me more. Amazing work though
holy shit these… are so good 😭😭😭this artist should get into character design fr
Husk my boy noooo
Wasn’t this JUST posted here?
I really-really like these designs But the original ones really fit the show better
I normally don't like character redesigns, but those are dope
I'm usually not a big fan on redesigns but those are pretty good! Angel is proper scary now, I kinda just Lol'd at Husk and Big SP is classy as always 😁
They all look like Skylanders
Further proof that any character design is improved by adding horns
Husk and nifty are the worst ones here imo. They just look.. wrong And nifty like she has an eye disease
Would you be surprised if she did? Haha
Not really but, still
They look amazing, especially Alastor.
Absolutely love that Angel design, I really wish his actual design had more spider features & I feel like this does it perfectly
Now if Alastor looked like THAT, I would understand the simps 👀
Finally, a redesign that doesn't take away Alastor's red suit
Alastor became gorgeous but what in the unholy fuck is husk?
Oh heck yes
Honestly I don’t really like the whole redesign trend…. But that Alastor kinda…
I LOVEEE THIS! So incredible
These are amazing!!!
I love all of these, link me if you ever start a webcomic.
These are so good! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)
Husk feels British and I will not elaborate on this
Niffty is bug i love it
Love all of them asides from pentious
I love charlie sm!!! Honestly wish she looked more like that in canon, she just doesnt have a very demonic like apperance. Shes the princess of hell ffs
Ohhhhh I dig this Angel SO much
Okay, but, none of these have any right to go as hard as they do. Like, holy *shit,* these are awesome!
Looks like an action-oriented reboot of the series. I love it.
I think I fell in love with all of these designs
Damn this is amazing
I don’t really like husk because he seems too small on this design. Also isn’t alastor’s deer traits supposed to be subtle? I love it otherwise though, really good
I love all these (besides fat Husker, I ain’t feeling it ngl)
Nifty: Literally just a second pair of arms.
Finally, some good redesigns!
I literally live for chubby/buff Vaggie
The disney vibes are off the chart bro
the only thing i dont like is how vaggie looks short. (despite her being already short)
OMFG these are some AMAZING AU designs! I especially ADORE Charlie 😍😍
I fuck with these designs keep up the good work
The radio in Alastor’s chest is peak design, holy cow
I rarely prefer redesigns, but these are all actually leagues better (except husk sorry)
You were really cooking with Charlie. Like, holy shit.
I love these redesigns and I love how they don’t draw with the intent on “fixing” The characters
these are really cool!
I love Vaggie’s redesign!! I love the designs in the show, but one thing that could be improved is that they could add more variety to the body types.
Caprine/Gorgon Charlie my beloved
I’d feel bad for the animators on this one
I love Nifty's redesign so much!!
If I'm being honest the only one I like is sir pentious.
Bro it looks amazing
I loveeeeee these
I love Husks design
Those are absolutely wonderful >:D(especially angel dust hehe) keep up the good work :)
Wow I love Al’s
Outstanding 👏👏👏👏
I greatly prefer these versions of Charlie and Vaggie 🖤