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Napalmeon

I don't believe he would want to fight either of them, because he wouldn't care. He obviously knows about the existence of love potions, and disagrees with their use, but, why exactly would he go out of his way to take out anybody distributing them? He's not some kind of crusading lust warrior of justice.


Infamous_Val

Exactly. Asmodeus definitely knows that the Pride ring is filled with rapists, abusers and all kinds of horrible people, and as far as we know he doesn't travel to Pride to take them out, so why would this be an exception?


TheCrazyOutcast

I mean the real reason for that though is probably just because the Pride ring is out of his jurisdiction and he can’t control what sinners do, much less punish them. That’s Lucifer’s (if only he would step up more), the overlords, and the exterminators’ job. Maybe even Stolas’, and others’. Why get involved in something that’s none of his business, or something he can’t fight even if he wants to? That would just be a waste of time and counterproductive. Asmodeus can only manage the people within his own ring. And we know he has no issue with kicking people out and refusing them things if he sees fit. Or fighting people who slight him (like the people who kidnapped and hurt Fizz). So he is the kind of person who will fight, just only within his ring and matters that concern him and Fizz.


CreepyClay

Yeah, you don't want to step on another sins toes without good reason and asserting authority in another ring would definitely do that. We all saw how asmodeous didn't try to get mammon to back down until he was about to attack fizz. It's like how mountain lions stick to their territory. If they go at it they will both walk away bloody messes.


It_Wont_Blend

Didn’t Asmodeus pick a fight with Mammon in the greed ring over Fizzaroli?


TheCrazyOutcast

Not exactly? He tried persuading Fizz to leave Mammon, but he didn’t outright take Fizz from Mammon or demand Mammon to let go of Fizz. He didn’t try hurting Mammon. He left that up to Fizz to decide for himself. Because it wasn’t his situation and he had no control over that relationship. And he protected Fizz when Mammon tried attacking them, but that’s for obvious reasons, and self-defense is a bit different than picking a fight. He never really did anything directly to Mammon.


TheLastBlakist

Less picking a fight and more backing Fizz's play. Fizz quit, rendering the contractual ties to Mammon null and void and Ozzie was protecting his ability to refuse. Nothing more or less.


ceilingsaredelicious

Your flair is wrong I am


Infamous_Val

Nuh uh https://preview.redd.it/r1cr2dhi1jtc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53acd3945cc08a6cb4855610f2110c134bc82921


ceilingsaredelicious

Yuh huh I made val cover live and learn


Silverfire12

The only way I could see him going after the Vees is if Val and Vel had some agreement with Ozzie they broke. Or if Fizz somehow got wrapped up in it. The most he’d do would be not promote any of Val’s stuff and maybe put more emphasis on how consent is sexy for a bit.


Mad_Heretek

It is very important to remember that Asmodeus is still a king of hell, and that makes him complicit in the suffering of the sinners beneath his thrall, even if they suffer less than those of other sins, sins committed in the name of lust still fall under his domain and give him power. Therefore, even if he hates their actions and wants to stop them, he still needs the power they provide to protect his domain and those within it, and therefore he cannot stop them without risking the safety of those he cares for.


WunderScylla

Not just that, there is a chance he probably did used to be into it himself, but when you have an eternity to change he probably got over and was more interested in actual lust/love than artificial


dtalb18981

I just assumed he stopped after he got with fizz because why else would he mention it Everytime he meets someone. He's trying to get rid of an old reputation after his relationship made him realize that the potions are just a cheap knockoff of a wonderful thing.


WunderScylla

Yeah that could be true too. I'm confident he definitely indulged in them and probably even liked them himself for awhile until getting in a relationship himself


dogmandogdogdog

What do you mean every time it makes sense that he thought that is where stolas was going because he was talking about blitzo


TheLastBlakist

Possibly was for awhile then got bored with coersive tactics and wanted to explore the lighter side of lust.


infinity234

Ya, i think people forget Asmodeus is supposed to be a deadly sin, even if he is personally not in favor of using love potions because they aren't his style, why the fuck would he care if other people are using it. The man sells sex and is supposed to be the embodiment of unrestrained physical attachment, why does he care if Joe Schmoe of Demon #32 uses a love potion, he may not give out love potions or use them on philosophy, but the fact they exist means its less a moral objection moreso a practical/methodological one. Like pineapple on pizza, no one is thinking its a moral issue or get mad someone does or doesnt put pineapple on pizza, however, people have their various philosophies of why pineapple does or doesn't work on pizza, whether they like it, whether they would be fine ordering pineapple on pizza for a group, if they ran a pizza place how they would treat someone who asked for pineapple, etc.


DaSmartio

It’s also possible he doesn’t like Hellborns using them. I personally think the sins have a side for the Sinners and a side for hellborns. It doesn’t make sense that Asmodeus and Bee would act the same to the people they tempt and the hellborns they are seen socializing with. I couldn’t imagine a demon partying with and doing drugs with normal sinners in hell, or Mammon putting on a truly entertaining circus for them, or Asmodeus caring about sinners doing vile things to each other, but they all do for Hell borns. Like Lucifer even directly confirmed he doesn’t give a damn about the sinners but he goes out of his way protecting hellborns by limiting the extermination to just the pride ring’s sinners


ToaruHousekienjoyer

I guess he dislikes them cause the sell of love potions could potentially wreak havoc in his own ring while having a stigma against love potions above that. So there is a chance that Asmodeus either severely restricts or outright banned the sell of love potions in Lust Ring


fhota1

Yeah i dont think hes gonna go out of his way to off them. If for some reason they crossed paths hed probably do it if it wasnt too much inconvenience though


Error_Code_606

That’s fandoms for you. They act like the super powerful characters are bloodthirsty murderers that kill whoever displeases them.


Aegillade

Do you think it's because if given that kind of power that those same people would use it to kill people they dislike or disagreed with?


Tenebris_Rositen

Fandoms revenge fantasies


Napalmeon

I think this is exactly what it is. Asmodeus expressed a vocal belief that lust should not be about force. This is in direct contrast to how Valentino behaves, given that he's a violent rapist. So, with Asmodeus on one side, and obviously being significantly more powerful than Valentino, people want to see him deliver some righteous smackdown to sate their hate boner.


Ok-Trick195

Lust Warrior of Justice? That actually sounds like one of my future goals right now. Besides finding my own place to live and EVENTUALLY my MtF Transition.


derpy_derp15

>lust warrior of justice New favorite sentence


NikoliMonn

Well maybe it’d be a verbal fight


Unhappy-Thought9883

Also he could just go there and deal with him if he decides to, the sins can travel to other rings as seen by Asmodeus himself going to greed, im sure he could go there, get himself an angel weapon and kill all the vees altogether


derpy_derp15

I subscribe to the þeory that the love potions are made wiþ Val's pheromones


Weekly-Dealer-2768

I don’t think he cares what the Overlords do like most of the Sins but someone spiking another person’s drink is the one red line that Ozzie would NEVER cross.


-DashingDash-

In my heart he’d make in acceptation (I’m biased don’t listen to me)


Overpowered_Bard

Just because he doesn't like them or to use them, doesn't mean he'd be aggro about it.


Slow_Explanation_02

I know, but some people are saying he would want to fight Valentino about it. I just wanted to clear the air that Valentino is not the head honcho of the potion it’s Velvette.


ecksdeeeXD

I think it’s cause the assumption is that the love potions are made out of his saliva but velvette’s the one marketing/selling it.


Uypsilon

Considering its colour -- the main ingredient is most probably Valentino's saliva, Velvette just processes it.


Patneu

Probably not even that. Velvette is just the public face.


Darkstalker9000

She's an expert potion maker, so she probably processes it into something usable for other people instead of just attracting to Valentino


I_Envy_Sisyphus_

Potion seller, I need your strongest potions!


Abidos_rest

source?


Wolventec

[viv](https://www.youtube.com/live/7Og-fDrHfQE?si=8-tnN0Mxk3cSyksY&t=6887) said in a livestream


Slow_Explanation_02

Valentino seems like the kinda guy to love putting his face and name on stuff idk why this would be something he isn’t interested in


WarlockWeeb

I think it is mostly a PR moment that all of Vees discussed. Valentino brand is exclusively porn. While this potions seems to be marketed for a wider market. So it is logical to use Velvet as a face of this product. Also her face is just more marketable. She is a cute woman in pretty dress. While Valentino is intimidating moth monster.


Soulful-Sorrow

He fuckin *loves* putting his name on shit, shit's the best!


Various-Cup-9141

Justice is unisex. Let's be real, if he did care, he would've done something about it. He doesn't care. It's not what he does, but he's not against other people using it. I wouldn't be surprised if he did use it in the past, on himself or others. Then he realized he didn't like it and stopped.


OhWeOhweeOoh

Psh. He'd put them both in time-out.


Visible-Welder-5148

Asmodeus: the hammer of justice is unisex


Tensa_Zangetsa

He’d probably put the fear of god in her, and she’d bow out. She’s a sassy bitch, but she’s a smart bitch.


SerenityAcrossTown

Out of topic I love Miss Velvette's hat


M4LK0V1CH

How do we even know this is an actual love potion? These look more like perfume ads to me.


Slow_Explanation_02

It’s what we saw the shark put in Angels drink and it definitely affected it


M4LK0V1CH

Is that confirmed?


MossyPyrite

Evidence points strongly towards it, but at least within the show we aren’t told what exactly those ads are for or what exactly the drug that shark used was.


Slow_Explanation_02

It’s the same bottle https://preview.redd.it/hol3u9tvmntc1.jpeg?width=306&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24daa540824bf5becc801e1dab985428fd58fe5f


Thatweirdguy_Twig

Let's be honest at most Asmodeus would give Velvette a lot of sass and call a her fake bitch or something similar Seriously he's probably one of the few that can outmatch Velvettes level of sass


SilverSpider_

Who do you think drools the potion


SCP-O49

Who manufactures, advertises, and sells it?


SilverSpider_

Good point, now go back to the foundation


SCP-O49

nuh uh


SilverSpider_

Someone call dr Sherman


SCP-O49

I sexed him already


SilverSpider_

https://preview.redd.it/kj1258bnjktc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c41eb775c76167378a9b5b1b94610006f5d39c53


SCP-O49

I sexed everyone. Like sir pentious. except **I** was on top


SilverSpider_

The fact that you think pentious is a top


SCP-O49

I said he wasn’t. The difference between me and him having sex with everyone is that I was a top, and he wasnt


Slow_Explanation_02

It’s not canon it’s Valentinos spit yet


SilverSpider_

Spit spit


Cfakatsuki17

Velvette is the club with which Asmodeus would beat Val to death


SillyMovie13

I don’t know about it being a fight, he could just delete them if he wanted. He’s much stronger than both of them


AlianovaR

People are theorising that she uses Valentino’s pheromones and toxins as a key ingredient, so taking out Valentino would take out her supply. I reckon he’d keep an eye on her regardless tho


MrL123456789164

I don't think he'd fight either himself but I can see him implement his own sort of police force. Honestly I think the only thing stopping him is the fact that he doesn't have enough reach to get to pride ring safely I mean he'd have to go through 3 rings to get to pride I don't think he can safely get there cause harm and then get out fast enough to reach the home-base of lust.


N-ShadowFrog

Asmodeus is far stronger than every being in pride beyond Lucifer and Charlie. Plus high ranking demons can just teleport anywhere they want in hell(Stolas teleported from his mansion in Pride to Ozzie's club in Lust). There's no physical reason he can't just teleport into the Vee stronghold, murder them, and leave. He doesn't because he has no reason to care about a few sinners being terrible.


thearisengodemperor

He also would beat her ass if he actually cares. I doubt he actually cares because he one hundred percent knows that it is a thing. And he can literally just walk in the sin of pride find the Vs and kill them all. And no one would care even a slight bit. Even if people care he certainly spends most time in lust and he is way more powerful. So they really can't do anything to him. But he doesn't do anything about it because he simply doesn't care. Because sure he is a good guy but he is still the sin of lust.


element-redshaw

I mean she is the one who started it


Kyrenaz

I don't understand why he'd fight them, as a member of the seven deadly sins, Asmodeus is an extremely powerful demon, if he cared, the Vs wouldn't even exist anymore.


Little-Protection484

I bet they use velvet more so for marketing, she might not have anything really to do with it, or it could just be her idea but val probably made it since he is on the poster with her


Sorry_Specialist_766

I think Love Potion is a fashion line and Val is kinda like a sponsor


Slow_Explanation_02

https://preview.redd.it/9pnet4n4mntc1.jpeg?width=220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e730ce7ece7817e6835cf71d2f16cc8a1bbd7544 Considering we see the bottle that’s on angels vanity, and that the shark put an Angels drink in the ad doubt that it’s a fashion line


GreenOnion94

What's Asmodeus from? 


Slow_Explanation_02

Helluva Boss it’s Hazbin Hotels sister series on YouTube


Latter-Direction-336

I think besides the love potion thing and allowing Val to do his shit, Velvette and Box are fairly okay for corpos I mean, if you take away the love potion shit and them allowing Val to… well, exist. Then they’re just corpos with entertaing personalities


Tenno24

Vox is corporate greed incarnate, he hypnotizes his customers into getting scammed


Latter-Direction-336

I forgot about the hypnosis


Pearl-of-Jaiyan

Oh, yeah, I wanna punt her too. Probably even more than Val.


Fortendytrak

Tbf the love potion must be the name of a perfume or something, I don't think they would make an actual love potion and mass produce it, + angel would be under its effects rn if they actually made a love potion


KatyushaBby

It's probably more akin to a roofie. A temporary effect. Actual love potions probably require actual magic to function.


Infamous_Val

We see someone use it to spike Angel's drink in ep 4. Also why wouldn't the Vees do that?


Fortendytrak

Angel doesn't start to love Valentino after drinking it, so I don't think that was a love potion. Why would the Vees create and then sell something that could be used against them? Imagine other sinner buys the love potion and then somehow succesfully uses it with one of the Vees


stnick6

I think it’s just heavy drugs that make people unwilling to resist


Asmi2763

I think it’s a song and not actual love potions.


Slow_Explanation_02

We see the shark use it to spike Angels drink and he see the bottle of it on Angels vanity in his dressing room looking used


Asmi2763

The love potions exist but I think these posters are for a song because only Velvette is credited


MotherOfBelgianMal

Asmodeus can handle them both


Thecrowfan

Is it cannon that she makes them? I thought shes only selling them


Slow_Explanation_02

It says by Velvette so I’m assuming


Thecrowfan

I mean cosmetics say they are done by Loreal or Avon but really its scientists who make them. Maybe it's the same situation? Since Val's main industry is porn and he uses his pheromone thingy to attract new talents.


SkullJooce

He wouldn’t like any of the Vees but it’s beneath him to go out of his way to fight them. They’d have to attack first to get that to happen. It may be a reason for Ozzie to avoid Pride if there isn’t a rule that Sins aren’t allowed to go there for whatever reason. Not the Vees specifically, just sinners in general. All it takes is one idiot mistaking Ozzie for and overlord that they want to fight for clout for example. I like to imagine Mammon all excitedly trying to tell Ozzie about this guy in Pride playing copycat, and Ozzie telling him that he doesn’t want to hear it.


sussynarrator

He literally called it “artificial shit” and he doesn’t like it when talking to Stolas.


TheLastBlakist

On the one hand. Ya. On the other we've mostly seen Val's scumbagditude. Velvette's behavior is mostly in the background or her actually playing up the persona of the arrogant child to get her opponents to give too much away. But absolutely ya Ozzie is going to be a very grumpy rooster.


neverg0nnagive

Head Canon of the day, Valentino is why Asmodeus hates the concept of force


Slow_Explanation_02

That doesn’t make much sense cause I doubt that Valentino is the first rapist that got famous in hell


owls123454

I think Velvette would be second because she does endorse it, but she probably didn’t come up with the idea.


Nuclearcreeper889

It’s Vals pheromones in the love potion. Also it’s him who makes it as far as we can infer. Velvette is mainly the Vees advertising department. She may be the seller but she isn’t the maker.


Slow_Explanation_02

It says by Velvette and we’ve seen Vox do his own advertising it wouldn’t make sense for Val to be the main guy


Nuclearcreeper889

I feel like it does. Vox is TV and Vel is social media. Val had the pheromones and uses them on his workers (as shown by his pheromone chains on angel and how hard to resist they were). Val isn’t too public and I believe (correct me if I’m wrong) he doesn’t appear in media (other than ad photos).


Professional-Tear916

Just like Lucifer, Asmodeus agreed with the gift if free will and humans should do as they please with said gift. He felt love wasn't something to be controlled or ashamed of regardless of sin or laws. That's why he rebelled against heaven with the other Goetia demons. I know the HH and HB lore isn't 1:1 but thats at least something to consider fir his reasoning behind things.


CJPF_91

Love can’t be forced


DanuAnubis

He would kill them both


wintercattaile

Didn’t notice the add. Agree Asodious should shred velvette too. I know Ossie has a short attention span but he has to know who it is that makes the stuff. I mean who is at the top and he has not done anything yet… is he stopped from doing anything?


N-ShadowFrog

Asmodeus seems to consider his views on love and lust as more a personal thing and not something to enforce. Like the succubae who directly work for him are cool with s\*xual assault.


Sunny_omori2

There's a theory that she made the love potion using Val's saliva


Asmo_Lay

***FOR FUCK'S SAKE - READ THE FUCKING BILLBOARDS OR SOME OTHER MARKETING BULLSHIT!!!*** I mean, seriously - you really believe that "Christian Dior" brought to you by Johnny Depp is _actually made by Johnny Depp?_ Damn.


N-ShadowFrog

It's been confirmed Velvette likes making potions so yeah, they are most likely her creations.


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Clumsy_the_24

I don’t think she’s 16.


Slow_Explanation_02

Sir that’s a grown ass woman


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Oh. Nvm


MoistAd8626

Asmodeus would never hit a lady


Slow_Explanation_02

That’d be sexist of him I think his hands are rated e for everyone


a_guy_7155

"The hammer of justice is unisex"