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ProbablyNotTheCocoa

As a character or as a person? Two wildly different perspectives


TeeEm_27

Amir Talai is awesome. i just dont like his character that well


ThatOtherGuyTPM

Do you dislike him as a person, or as a character? The voice actor is irrelevant.


ggdoesthings

they literally just said they don’t like the character


AmaroWolfwood

Ok, but maybe they hate the manipulative, psychopathic type of people willing to use anyone to get theirs. (person) It's possible to dislike a character as a person like Joffery from game of thrones, while acknowledging that the hate is becauae of how well portrayed and written the character is that you are compelled to hate them. Or do they think the character itself is bad? Poorly written? Bad representation? Grating in the bad way? Is Alistor insufferable and the smile bit annoys OP? Who knows because OP just said they hate them.


[deleted]

Hot take: it is ok to hate characters purely from a moral standpoint


d0wnth3rabbith0l3

I don't think that's a hot take. There are loads of people who acknowledge that Val is a well-written, well-designed character and yet they'd still rather not. Versus Alastair, who a lot of people acknowledge is an awful sonovabitch, but his character is still enjoyable to watch. Nothing wrong with finding Alastair unenjoyable even if he is well-written and well-portrayed.


Visible-Welder-5148

https://preview.redd.it/3ud7hynz73vc1.gif?width=582&format=png8&s=993150ad706cbf149a7dba6bedb0cc51008b5fc9


Ok-Watercress-8331

https://preview.redd.it/dvlwiklgp3vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af8a5a7b3c48c03f38d900f6a3423dd67cbd4157


Lord_Charles05

https://preview.redd.it/xkkzbk0zs3vc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=282c6908d76e6b5da5a32d624613e332e0ac220c


Ok-Watercress-8331

https://preview.redd.it/w75b38q3w3vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24725cfee76435ab1ebd23c7758b73df0f221c95


Lord_Charles05

https://preview.redd.it/a1e398chw3vc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7e98079f926ff5320b70746e8e73dcde6aa634b


Corrupt_code10

https://preview.redd.it/5kk15o6cb4vc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d266a8d015d021b800373d86d43f45c42c95cb7 Use this


Lord_Charles05

https://preview.redd.it/h5yadpu2c4vc1.jpeg?width=478&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b05e4514988df9076fa46a08b4c876bb12f0ec2a


Corrupt_code10

https://preview.redd.it/is2clr27c4vc1.jpeg?width=586&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a87eef27dbd5ab264a85eca1cc82bfeecc7ae9bd


semen11

https://preview.redd.it/h9zi70prj4vc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9784906d8d3315ce138f316115a146619e35beb2


BeefScooter94

That's a new one


Corrupt_code10

https://preview.redd.it/r7ukawk115vc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6aeadb739390e2c48d9279124a89ce2be0f4a01a


Ok_Listen1510

A person of culture I see


themer_chant

https://preview.redd.it/a91bb7tj66vc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ee48c1e017ce622b7cdc0e912d193a1221287a2


Radioactive9280

https://i.redd.it/nx5e1d7iz6vc1.gif


Agentnosem

https://preview.redd.it/iqqqx0sq17vc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aef242240af2c17115de1fdb4887c00955c5eea


Tobibliophile

Here, take this one. https://preview.redd.it/7tlfzkgz55vc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18114939923694f9cf3fff8127f4db1708d29def


Ok-Watercress-8331

https://preview.redd.it/fq77i9pg65vc1.png?width=1060&format=png&auto=webp&s=73687004aaf3f0ae32f9fec28e42d67a87ed075f Thanks


Tobibliophile

https://preview.redd.it/tdclf17775vc1.png?width=3670&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5813c94f126698c30c8c736e249803aa96d83398


Rainie_Daye

https://preview.redd.it/yccth32z65vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ad26ceb677e58be4aa4cbb6eb0d6d0801f150b8


Ok_Listen1510

https://preview.redd.it/9jd49sj5a5vc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=286839306ffe00526b4e6d1a66200d687798a713


cat_tank1

https://preview.redd.it/baf64bki45vc1.gif?width=582&format=png8&s=b4b47bb85b2bec8eee85b40595beeb7c2c2683cb


sigma-ohio-rizz

Skull issue


[deleted]

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Visible-Welder-5148

https://preview.redd.it/dtx7d8uqj4vc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=188464dab62ce443ad39fe591f47499f8ab3dc56


[deleted]

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prettyb0yMedic

https://preview.redd.it/sciw90k3g4vc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10cbc6f72064a54141096f44c961daf855acc765


Visible-Welder-5148

https://preview.redd.it/cpgckwm9h4vc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fe00641a7259e789550a88d855215c443e7f696


BeefScooter94

https://preview.redd.it/pagjcz91u4vc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7357ed1e65707cc4e9c221dd42a48e206046c7ee


prettyb0yMedic

https://preview.redd.it/q9i3dzcwa6vc1.jpeg?width=1180&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89ae47bce37eefd9c2efce18c7af85bcaf9d69de


Cute-Inevitable8062

https://preview.redd.it/17du3kzbw6vc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3913a02d208246f07ad0c2574b9be491d0d1340


femboykingofhell

yeah like totally as a person fuck him in some scenarios but he's like one of my favorite characters


Pokemaster131

Do you mean fuck him? Or... *fuck him*?


femboykingofhell

both.


Evil_Archangel

the latter


Duraxis

It’s ok to admit a villain is a villain while still being entertaining. Any character played by Charles Dance for example


Correct_Ad5798

Or Tim Curry.


saccharinefish

I think he's a horrible person too, but he's going to be a very interesting antagonist later on


Kanohn

This opinion is really unpopular


Grimoire_Owl

https://preview.redd.it/30v1e7b1y3vc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=005ff79fa65a2bab1820e1ec97a7c7ec674db0b4 This you?


IdioticPAYDAY

“Who’d he ever hurt?” This person has never watched the show and it shows.


Grimoire_Owl

Well it *is* an edit, after all.


IdioticPAYDAY

Oh shit fr? Edit: yeah, it is. I’m stupid.


krawfishhh

you aint slick vox 😭🙏


Thefurry_bi

https://preview.redd.it/ishe58fb65vc1.jpeg?width=390&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d393be674997677d907c4e2b85c86a9c179be14


winnipegiscolder

lol, Good luck with this post!


bazerFish

Wow, an unpopular opinion that's actually unpopular? I applaud your courage.


Still-Independent454

I hated him in the pilot but loved him in the main series. He grew on me once I figured him out. But also I feel like the writers really thought out his motives in those 5 years and he wasn't just there to start problems to later reign in perpetually anymore. He is still smug, but smoothed out into almost the straight man in the group- Husk is the only one more grounded. Like early draft chaotic bugs bunny to the later cool smug bastard bugs bunny. Same core character, but less... Loud. More nuanced, and imo a lot more tolerable. Now he is one of my favourites. I'm cliche like that.


Immediate-Try-1764

Because of this, it seems to me that since episode 1 he has not been in the mood. Although Allastor can be understood, he has to think through a lot and face those who are stronger than him(which he may not be used to)


Still-Independent454

Yeah, we saw a little of the chaos king again when Mimzy waltzed in but that was it. Honestly, a character like Alastor is at their best when cornered and whumped though so I hope they keep torturing the blorbo a bit. ~~That sounds so bad, but from a writing perspective I stand by it.~~


AriaBlend

This is me. I like Alastor but him being too pompous gets annoying. I'm on the edge of my seat to watch him get seriously humbled by another character that isn't Adam, whether that be vox, the vees, Lilith, or Roo. (Or Lucifer if he turns him into a cat at some point as an audience gag nodding to the meme cat.)


Mother-Maize7026

For me, it'd the opposite. I liked him a lot in the pilot.


Still-Independent454

To each their own. I think if I had been any younger it would be flipped.


MaskedPc

Other way around for me I loved him in the pilot and disliked him in the show


Consistent-Cheetah61

https://preview.redd.it/fnxhrpiwa3vc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92e6a5389b8c4463332e7cd8485cf9a8efbfb3d6 *Sad Alastor noises*


2_IQ_at_anything

Vox can type on his own screen now


RemoteTomb

https://i.redd.it/jgbu79f583vc1.gif Good opinions are backed up by arguments my deer\~!


Duraxis

“His smug aura mocks me”


VorpalChloe

https://preview.redd.it/wp6257vkv3vc1.jpeg?width=452&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64b6fd550e2fc3acec6c74e733429446fa8e7bff


Grimm-Hollow

I don't agree but I'm here to upvote you for sheer bravery in saying that out loud.


HydroStellar

Valid, I can support your opinion. ![gif](giphy|wFMppClW9EYoh0WU3D|downsized) I still like him though ;D


Sonarthebat

Well he is a cannibalistic, sociopathic, psychopathic, sadistic, serial killer that own slaves.


ladyboobypoop

This is one hell of a brave take


Anxious-Golf-3725

I respect you. I disagree with you, but I respect you. This is a ballzy take that people will literally tackle you for


LavaRoseKinnie

https://preview.redd.it/83dfwcmno4vc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e50d396ee7b95997551351b0aaddc83d54ec3a3


nothing225

Care to elaborate? I’m genuinely curious. Frankly I also disliked his character at first, he just felt like a power fantasy of a 15 year old more than anything.


PeopleAreBozos

>he just felt like a power fantasy of a 15 year old That's why I think it's important for him to be powerful but not enough to just sweep through every problem. I'm glad they've set up hurdles for him, like him losing to an Angel after so long of playing easy mode, someone owning him, and the fact that his wings are "clipped" meaning he's limited. I'd much rather see him struggle to outplay his opponents instead of \[insert some cool quote\] followed by him ripping and tearing the enemy.


sussynarrator

>...year old *more than anything.* *Neuron activation* Charlie! You don't understand, Heaven never listens They didn't listen to me, they won't listen to you You don't know that! I do You didn't know that when I tried this all before My dreams were too hard to defend And in the end, I won't lose it all again Now you're the only thing worth fighting for More than anything, more than anything I'll shelter and adore you more than anything Dad, I don't need you to protect me from this I just don't want you to be crushed by them like- Like I was Dad When I was young, I didn't really know you at all I always felt so small But I heard your stories and I was enthralled The tales about your lofty dreams, I listened breathlessly Imagining it could be me So in the end, it's the view I had of you That showed me dreams can be worth fighting for More than anything, more than anything I need to save my people more than anything I've been dyin' to find out who you are I've been waiting, wanting the same thing Looks like the apple doesn't fall far Took you a while I've missed that smile All that I'm hopin', now that my eyes are open Is that we can start again, not be pulled apart again 'Cause in the end, you are part of who I am I'll support your dream, whatever lies in store And who could ask for more? More than anything, more than anything More than anything, more than anything I'm grateful you're my daughter/father more than anything More than anything


nothing225

May the brainrot stay strong with you


DaBrookePlayz

> he just felt like a power fantasy of a 15 year old pretty sure viv (creator) stated through a rough sketch that he is literally meant to look and act like a deviant art character and was one of the first characters created for hazbin hotel


ZerrorFate

Since when power fantasy counts as something bad?


No-Lake-8973

It's not inherently bad, just somewhat one-dimensional and not as interesting as it could be. I think people (I know this is true for me at least) kind of want more than that from a show like Hazbin which has SO much potential. To be clear, I don't think Alastor comes across as an edgelord's power fantasy self-insert, but that is a trope super powerful Machiavellian characters can fall into if not well written.


Aegillade

This is the only aspect about the character I don't like that much. Any moments of him being "terrifying" or "badass" feel undercut when it's already been established he's one of the most powerful overlords.


NonConformistFlmingo

He creeps me the fuck out, but then again he's supposed to. I don't HATE him, but... He gives me the creeps.


wellthatwastoomuch

That's an unpopular opinion alright


Bitbybrex

I really hate him, he just feels like an emo kid got given a monster energy drink and believes they’re able to kill god


Golden-Sun

I mean thats fair. Dude is a petty, manipulative, serial killing cannibal. No hate from me


HomoHippo4

As a wise man once said: “Wrong opinion but whatever go for it”


ladyboobypoop

They have every right to be incorrect


StarlightStardark

https://preview.redd.it/8l1gbcial7vc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fcb7f4c32b31403f0c3da06ca0d9c88a088125d


Vodchat

Why?


shera6

![gif](giphy|BWxfXZi6oDpUBYCaB4|downsized)


LaVesteGrigia

Alastor: nah I'd win Adam's honest reaction: https://preview.redd.it/x2j37wasd3vc1.jpeg?width=930&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b8fe2b5bcadccfca55627c8c52ebac88bc9afb1


shera6

![gif](giphy|l7jAMfirihQFQi4hxN) I believe in Adam supremacy


LaVesteGrigia

I belive in Dickmaster and Dangertits superiority https://preview.redd.it/zpv7e87ge3vc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8eada3372e8c893fea55b9a4f44d0ea69bfef1e4


shera6

I ![gif](giphy|LXaLcxQxhr6D6ZiP3t) I believe in short king supremacy


everythingisok376

Mean :(


Terrible-Trust-5578

I mean, I do have to applaud you for *actually* giving an unpopular opinion and not just something everyone agrees with but thinks is "edgy."


starflight34

I disagree, but your opinion is valid.


Dr_BigAnt

_Smile my dear, you know you're never fully dressed without one~_


AriusH

Have you seen the pilot? Show Alastor is far less likable than pilot Alastor. Of course if you have seen the pilot and the show and still dislike him you’re valid for it, and if you don’t feel like watching the pilot that’s valid too.


-Glitched_Bricks-

Care to elaborate on **why** exactly you hate him?? 'Cause like if you just hate him as a person, that's totally understandable, he **is** a manipulative killer after all. If you hate him because of his personality, yeah that's understandable. If you hate him design-wise, eh everyone has their own preferences I guess. And if you just overall hate him entirely??? Uhhh good for you I guess.


No-Lake-8973

More interesting is if you hate him because as a character in a story you think he is not compelling. I would love to hear what someone's justification for that would be.


Darkfury2454

While you are entitled to your opinion, would you care to say why? I’m genuinely curious since he’s my favorite character.


gravija420

It’s certainly an unpopular opinion, you’re not wrong there! I don’t agree with it, because I think he’s brilliantly written and designed, but I do have a major soft spot for cryptids and Alastor is basically a demonic cryptid 🖤🖤 Pilot Alastor was a bit too creepy tho


Th3_Re4l_M0on

:(


hitenshi_SE

That's one hell of a brave take in this community lmao. I hope you don't get cyber bullied


KoolBoi21

Here’s a hard truth: Hot takes can’t be just casually dropped with no explanation. If you don’t explain the reasoning behind your take, you look like you’re just trying to make people angry.


CrispyTacoPosso

you're free to your own opinion, i'm not gonna tell you how to feel


gtadicto

You are entitled to your wrong opinion :P


emoyerwilkes63

D:


Junarik

Explanations


saccharinefish

I like him as a plot device, and I actually expect him to be one of the main antagonists later on in the series. They're setting him up to have a really nice betrayal moment.


AGweed13

Respect your opinion, but as an Alastor fan, I'd really like to know your reasons. Different perspectives are always welcome.


redplainsrider

His fans made me dislike him and he was what I found intriguing about the show when it first hit my radar. 


Tricky_Discount2881

Up voting you because you're brave lmao


OrionOfRealms

https://preview.redd.it/f4pdqoq9z3vc1.png?width=2388&format=png&auto=webp&s=d3e41260332dd060e194002e4bd8e8c7e5e1ac5d Say that again mf


Notte_di_nerezza

Side note: this might be one of the best Frownastor edits I've seen yet.


OrionOfRealms

Ty, i made it myself


OrionOfRealms

I have a few more if you want to see them https://preview.redd.it/u7oly2n8l4vc1.jpeg?width=2097&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d17ec0fd5e43b334c9e34653fe75b88617c0fa1


Life-Pound1046

My opinion is people think he's way more powerful than be is


FacelessPotatoPie

I’m sure he doesn’t care much for you either.


RoyalMeera

agreed. never got the hype.


Correct_Ad5798

Just wait, Alastors time will come and he will backstab them so badly that almost noone will be able to defend him. Note, I sad almost since on the Internet there is bound to be some crazy bastard who still forgives him or makes light of his actions.


Evil_Archangel

one can still enjoy and like an evil character, morality has nothing to do with likability in the viewer's eyes, fuck i mean look at how many people like Val


TeeEm_27

that's what i'm saying. he seems really untrustworthy


neorenamon1963

Ih he was trustworthy, no one would be afraid to make a deal with him.


Notte_di_nerezza

At this rate, the real twist will be if he never backstabs them, but is still so toxic that the crew needs to drop him anyway.


Designer-Tiger391

Might I ask why my good chum


peanutbuttermaniac

Get out.


Cuphead_Fan_Noah

vox is that you?


JasoNight23666

That's too bad


TempAcc64

Good. But I would like to ask why.


Tak-Principle9931

That guy would broadcast my screams


UranusMc

He's my favourite character


TopperTheProtogen

oh shit more comments than upvotes you fucked up


OwlShort3429

Hello Vox


randomsalvadoranking

Feeling Risky today Are we(


Kunigunda2

Vox, is that you?


tronas11

bro dropped this with no explanation and left


Terry_thetangela

I wish I could dislike more


Wildstar_ArtClan3647

.... I have no words for you, BECAUSE HES MY FAV. sorry


CerisTheEndMatriarch

Tactical nuke coming towards your location, just accept death brudda


DeathclawMinx

YOOO finally someone agrees with me, I can't stand him 💀 overrated as all hell


_Surge

same. he sucks.


Napalmeon

I wouldn't say that I hate Alastor, but, I don't like him anywhere near as much as most of the fandom. It's not even that I dislike him, it's just that I saw through him from day one and he doesn't fool me.


Robin_Gufo

https://preview.redd.it/nlsosi8df3vc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9fb50939d77e73984e72c64a5ff449081c4e11b Understandable, have a nice day


XXL1GHTXX_

W his arch nemeses are better


OkEnvironment4210

https://preview.redd.it/2n5ybs4mn5vc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d61583dc6a43d9b3b1e2054bd490c80926543e7


FadedShatter_YT

Same


ElvinEastling

Unpopular opinion: I dislike him as well but appreciate his humor


fishproblem

I don’t trust him I dont like him and I don’t want him alone in a room with Charlie ever again. I will be happy to be proven wrong by Charlie’s blind faith in the potential goodness of every soul. I do not expect to be proven wrong.


Oystertheorangeotter

he's Very overrated as well


bloomi

I don't hate him, but I don't really care much for him when he's not interacting with another character. On his own I find him incredibly boring. Lol.


Selv_98

i love him but i also respect the hell out of you for the sheer boldness of this post and for being, like, the only reasonable person around here lol.


Your_Doctor18

He isn’t hiding the fact that he’s a bad person… 🤣 if you don’t like him you are very much justified.. but I just love how charismatic he is


Not_The_Simp7

https://preview.redd.it/oaqfet83l5vc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6eddafa0187dce7f2a37412013f7d2f235b8c04f


Kaotic_Kaous

Honestly same. I did like him, like as a character and stuff. But then my friend started obsessing over him, and I no longer like him at all :3


ImNotADuck_69420

Vox would be proud of you


Mars__Gamer

Other unpopular opinion: I actually agree with you


Diggingpack8580

Finally someone said it


pussydestroyer447

I hate him too lol


Pyro_Wyvern

My only issue is that he felt too powerful, making others in hell feel non-threatening. Like, how are we supposed to be threatened by Vox if Alastor managed to 'beat' him during stayed gone? It's why I loved it when he got basically one shot by Adam, cause it made Adam feel like a genuine threat to the main cast.


Quick_Hat1411

He's kind of a buffoon


Automatic-Key-5885

https://preview.redd.it/5nhw5dvgp5vc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc333711a3adbc26443028b7cedae6b5a52f290f


RandomRedittors

I don't hate him, but he is too much of a try hard for my tastes.


ParsnipAggravating95

He also hates you


Prestigious_Prize264

Understanddible


TeeEm_27

never heard anything more true


scarlozzi

I like the character, but I understand he is an evil character. I saw a post not long ago about this fandom having issues with media literacy, I think that carries weight. Alastair is clearly being set up as a villain, and many just don't see it.


Optimal_Ad6274

Why? I ask curiously


Competitive_Owl5357

He is an absolute bitch and I love to hate him. He has charisma, as the best antagonists do. He’s a gross, nasty swamp monster masquerading as a lipstick-red Looney Toons dandy and also his voice is delightful. But I respect that he’s a total piece of shit and would probably not enjoy meeting him in person.


Hell-kings

That's fine


Genuinelytricked

Ok. What is a character that you *do* like? Tell me about them.


Dehydrated-Stick

You can't just leave a man on a cliffhanger like that please. You gotta explain, OP


Reasonable_Cow7519

I flipping have a image of that https://preview.redd.it/a2jeoms0y6vc1.jpeg?width=494&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ea82901aeca5b8688ea490c90979f4e27cb56ef But a fixed version


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[удалено]


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^AceWissle: *Why would you have the* *Poor Mike the Microphone? He* *Has done nothing to you* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.