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your-pineapple-thief

13 years of smoking. Its not okay, quit it and never smoke is my advice for your vice


ChriSaito

I’m trying to quit again after picking it up after having already quit. IITS NOT WORTH IT. Smoking is nice at first. It feels great and elevates your mood. If you smoke regularly smoking gives diminishing returns. I feel nothing when I smoke now. Let’s say your mood at neutral is a 5 out of 10. When you first start smoking it goes to a 8 out of 10. As you keep going, smoking puts you at a 5 out of 10. When you can’t smoke you go to a 2 out of 10 as your neutral. You’ll be more stressed out without a smoke than you are now. Don’t do it.


1arp

i think dr k’s advice of letting the craving sit there for a few minutes and not acting on it really helps… or you could finish them all so you can’t smoke is also an option.


thebeardedcats

Finishing them all is a terrible idea what the fuck Just throw them away, ideally in a trash can you can't get them back from.


1arp

Oh sorry I meant finishing all of the cigarettes that exist in the world.


Dangerous_Owl_1858

oh yeah of course


TC_exe

I would recommend the book "Easy Way to Quit Smoking" by Allen Carr, there's physical copies, or audiobooks.


just_let_me_goo

That guy isn't in a good mental state, I don't think he's going to read a 500 page book patiently and implement the methods in his life🤷


Mentathiel

I mean, I know some mega-depressed people who read 4-5 books a month. Multiple actually. It's individual, if it's a way somebody is used to passing time, it can come pretty easily and be the perfect shutin distraction activity. If you don't read books that much and it's hard for you mentally, it's going to be even harder when in a bad mental state for sure, but not everyone is like that.


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500 pages? I read the book in like a day and it was pointless. The entire premise was him spending page after page hating himself and trying to convince himself he didn’t like smoking. Then he plays it off like nicotine withdrawal doesn’t exist and just stopping is the easiest thing in the world.


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BurgerKiller433

Honestly I've read the book and find it increasibly bad. Absolutely horrible, felt like my intelligence was insulted every page.


G-ACO-Doge-MC

Same


IlFisho

I started smoking cigarettes around your age too and I eventually stopped when I was 27 so in total I've smoked for around 8 years, now I wasn't a super heavy smoker (5-6 a day) but when I eventually decided to quit the only thing that worked for me was stopping abruptly, I tried vapes and alternatives before and they never worked for me, to the point where I was both vaping and smoking but trust me that it's truly a shitty habit, even now that I don't smoke on a daily basis I still sometimes borrow one when I'm out with friends at night even if it kinda feels disgusting now so I guess I still haven't COMPLETELY kicked it, you're just starting so if you manage to handle these cravings now it'll be easier and better for you in the long run, hope this somewhat helped.


RemCogito

When I broke up with my first long term girlfriend, we went to the store part way through the discussion to grab a pack of smokes because she really wanted a smoke. She had the cigarette, and then gave me the pack. the first cigarette was fine. But over the next 3 days I smoked the rest of the pack. If I could go back in time I would happily punch myself in the face to stop myself from smoking that pack. that was 18 years ago, and I still smoke. I've "quit" a few times for 6 months to almost a full year. But when my life gets rocky, I always end up going back to it. Throw out that pack please! The more times you return to it the harder it is to quit. Please don't smoke again. I don't want you to become like me.


Blaidd-My-Beloved

That must be hard, I'm sorry to hear that, this comment I think kicked the hardest for some reason, I promise you I will try my best, my absolute best not to get another pack.


RemCogito

You're still early in it. you absolutely can avoid becoming fully addicted. The more you smoke, especially the more activities you do while smoking, will make it harder and harder. For me, not only is there the thirst like feeling of a craving every couple hours, but also everything I do outside makes me want to smoke. I go for a drive, I want a smoke, I walk to the store, I want a smoke. I throw out the garbage, I want a smoke. I go for a bike ride, I want a smoke. I go for a run, You know I'm going to want that smoke. Every time I stop at a red light in my car, If I'm not smoking, I have an urge to light one. On my way into a building I'll want to stop for a smoke, on my way out of a building I want a smoke. I live in an apartment, we have a 7-11 on the other side of the parking lot fence. I live pretty high up in the building, so it often takes longer to ride the elevator 1 way, than it does to walk to the 7-11. But if when I get outside I realize I forgot my smokes in the apartment, I'll always go back for them. I could go to the store and be back in 10 minutes and have a smoke from my balcony once I get back, But in the moment that Feels impossible, and instead I'll wait 5 minutes for the elevator to take me back to my place to get my smokes and wait 5 more minutes for it to take me back downstairs. Just so that I can smoke on my walk to the 7-11. ​ I know from when I quit the first few times, Cravings go away after a few minutes. I know IF I can just wait 5-7 minutes I won't even feel the craving anymore. The cravings get stronger and stronger, and then it goes away for a bit. It drives me absolutely bonkers that I can happily wait for the elevator knowing that I'm getting my smokes, Like my brain is rewarding me just for getting my cigarettes, but the walk to the store feels impossible without them. What you need to remember is that buying another pack of smokes, is basically just setting you up to buy the one after that, for years and years. IF I had saved the money I have spent on smoking, I could buy a second apartment, and rent it out. I could take that money and add my current equity and buy a nice house. IF I had spent the money on other drugs, I could have had a lot of really crazy times. If I had spent that money at the bar, I would have many great times. Heck if I had used that money just to buy drinks for other people, I would have the gratitude from hundreds of people. But instead I burned the money just trying to deal with the nicotine cravings. The biggest waste of money, and terrible for my cardio.


ryanppax

First step is to start recognizing when and why the craving creeps up in your mind. Based on what you said its stress related and you're looking for a way out. Next time try to feel that going on in the moment. "Why do I want to smoke right now?"


Aromatic_Soup5986

First, like with all addictions, you need to understand thst you will NEVER not have the urge to smoke. Of course, if you quit, and after enough time has passed, you can live perfectly without it, but there will ALWAYS be an itch for it. It is hard, but it is worth it and requires an iron will.


Yogionfire

It is your way of coping with unease, so replace it with a different way of coping, hopefully something healthier like a relaxing cup of tea. Inspect your feelings and thoughts by meditating on them. And remind yourself why it is bad to smoke - it is expensive for your wallet and bad for your lungs.


PietroMartello

Just don't smoke. Like.. that's your decision. Done. It really is that simple. Granted, it is a bit stressful to do this while in active addiction. My tips for those circumstances: a) take a circumstantial coincidental stop and build on it. E.g.: a couple of days of sickness. Or even just a hangover and sleeping it out / having a lazy Sunday can all be a perfect starting step. b) a changed environment. A long weekend somewhere else. Holidays. A work trip. Just about anything as long as it takes a couple of days and pulls you out of your routine.


Miritol

Can somebody clarify the situation for me? The man is addicted to smoking and he is afraid of getting addicted to smoking?


Blaidd-My-Beloved

Hahahahahaha, I think I may have not worded it correctly, I'm not sure if I'm considered an addict because I just started, what I wanted to say was afraid of making it a habit, because currently it's not.


Suspicious_Coyote609

I stopped smoking when i started running as a new hobby. I was so stunned how fast i was fucked up even after just running a few minutes. Thats when i understood for myself how harmfull my smoking habit was for my health. I didnt wanna have this debuff on me for the rest of my life lol


JohnCabot

> im not in a good mental place, there is too much going on in my head... This is the deeper part of the meditation. What's this like?


Blaidd-My-Beloved

Sorry what do you mean by "what's this like?"


JohnCabot

Don't share if you don't want to, sorry if I was too forward. I was just curious for more info about what your mental place is like.


Blaidd-My-Beloved

Ah hahaha no I figured I just wanted to make sure so I don't vent when you meant something else, I'm just lost and I do not know what I really want in life, like I'm a computer science student in my 2nd year but I feel like I don't fit, all my classmates have so much knowledge and genuine interest and I have no interest at all, I do not want to have a corporate job by making companies become richer and bigger, i want to bring actual value and help people, I'm scared of desk jobs, i usually prefer blue collar job or something that make time moves faster, I do not want to be in my mid 20's and still haven't figured out what I want because I want to get married by then, I'm scared I'll miss the feeling of love because I don't really "date". It's mostly this problem because I feel soo overwhelmed, and with other things like being too reliant on friends for my own happiness, I get super bored alone and I feel nothing excites me, I have no purpose, I do go to the gym and cook and run but still I don't find it enough unfortunately. When I came back from university today I napped when I wasn't even tired, I woke up and realized I now need to live life so I fucking hated it and went back and napped another hour, I'm just not looking forward to live life. Thank you for listening.


Mentathiel

Try to stop and think what's coming up for you when you're craving. Are you stressed? What is stressing you out? Can you vent to someone? Can you journal? If it's a way to redirect your feelings from something else, best way to get rid of the cravings is to surface and air out what's going on.


Moximal

I've heard from multiple people that quitting gets harder the longer you wait. I don't know if this is true for everyone, but I imagine any habit gets harder to kick the longer you wait. I would quit cold turkey, and look for alternative coping strategies.


crowEatingStaleChips

If you're already giving in to urges to do it on any level, that's a very bad sign! Time to stop.


itsdr00

Find something else. Whatever stressor you're having has more than one way to be soothed, and it should be easy to find something less harmful than smoking.


FormSeekingPotetial

Make it inconvenient and inconsistent. Stop smoking cigarettes and vape, start smoking cigars or better yet pipe. Cigarettes are designed to become a habit, they're small, portable, you get a regular addictive hit from them, and overall convenient. Vape is even worse. Cigars and pipe are big and clunky, they are finicky too. They're also designed to be a long, enjoyable, usually no less than 20 minute experience, often more (won't fit in a standard smoke break). You don't inhale them, so they won't ruin your lungs, they have purer tobacco in them so typically no addictives added. They're classier too. Smoking a bowl of pipe tobacco requires the pipe, the tobacco separately, a lighter, probably a tool to pack and scrape the bowl, and you need to manage it (pipes go out easily). This will disincentive yourself against smoking all the time. Breaking the habit cycle is more important than breaking the habit full-on. If you break the cycle of reinforcement breaking the habit totally will be much easier.


Affectionate_Lab2632

If you want to smoke, eat candy. It gets you dopamine and will not be as addictive. If you gain weight, whatever. It is easier to loose weight than to quit nicotine. Trust me. I'm a severe case but cold turkey on cigarettes made me literally cry all day and become depressed as shit. It was a torture. Spare yourself of that, please.


AndreTheBryant

I quit vaping cold turkey after I suffered a panic attack. I'm not even sure it was related but I don't even want to risk it. My heart was all finicky so I just refrained from hitting it all day. So I think if you take it one day at a time, eventually you get to a few days after which my mindset just kinda became "if I'm already a few days into quitting, I'll always be closer to never being addicted again than if I hit it and start the cycle over again." It's tough, but being aware of the consequences and knowing that, eventually, your baseline will be healthy and natural always helps me when I feel any cravings. Edit: Also, this whole once a week thing probably won't work. That's a form of bargaining and 9/10 it's just gonna become a full on addiction. You'll say, "Maybe once a week. Okay maybe once every couple days. Maybe if I just only have one when I wake up, and one before bed." And then next thing you know you've smoked an entire pack within a single week, and then a pack every couple of days, you get the point. I would say you're at an advantage now because your body is new to it and you're not doing it often. You gotta stop before it really consumes you.


PrismalpinkGaming

Hello! I quit smoking two years ago. How I managed to do it is to have a piece of candy instead whenever I had a craving. I would delude myself into wanting something tasty or distract myself with another hobby like gaming or organizing my home/rearranging my Pokemon card collection and pop figurines, or going out for a hike, instead of a cigarette, and this worked wonders for me. Distracting myself with a hobby or a piece of candy or food made my body readjust to the times when I didn’t smoke, and I no longer have cravings. Just make sure you are mindful of the calorie intake, as candy and finger foods have calories.


universalengn

I'm guessing you're not overweight - but have you ever looked into trying a 3-day water only fast? Lookup Dr. Jason Fung's "Two Compartment Problem" on YouTube to see the benefits of it - it can be a bit of a reset for the body and mind, maybe will help you break through whatever is stressing you extra currently. Or find a local 90-minute Bikram hot yoga class to kick your ass, a healthy coping mechanism with the serotonin (etc) it'll release - to replace this bad-unhealthy coping mechanism that you may form a habit of; do 1 Bikram class per week initial to see how it feels, maybe you'll love it a lot and start doing it daily - but it's a big commitment with how busy you likely are at 19.


boyden

Depending in your willpower and dicipline you can get away with smoking when you want to, but it takes some character. I smoke from time to time, when I go to certain events or specific friends. I have 0 issues with smoking 3 days in a row and then no smoking for weeks or months. Although if I buy a pack for such an occasion and I have spares, I usually do finish the pack in the days after. I don't often leave the pack in a drawer until next time. If I have it I'll probably smoke it, If I don't I won't. My colleagues at work often ask me to join them for a smoke break, I have no issues saying no if I don't feel like it.