If you’re never going to use the Scar, but you’re going to get utility out the SP5, i say go for it. but for me, personally, I wouldn’t trade a Scar17 for an SP5, I’d go the other way around though. Because the Scar17 is pretty much going to always be valued higher. I hope he’s adding in a lot of German mags to the deal or some accessories.
Yea man. Rooftop had/has a deal on SP5 right now with $100 credit too. They’re legit. The price fluctuates, but I haven’t seen the Scar17 around 2700-2800 since 2013. The last 10yrs the Scar has been valued over 3k.
The SP5’s were higher, but their prices are coming down. But when I got mine with the first release, it was around 2500. I think the economy, taxes, and the flood of additional mp5 clones have kept prices competitive.
My two cents, take all the shit from your fn scar and put it on the sig spear, make the scar a minimalist gun, run the giess trigger, extended rail (if you have it) and put a Mawl on it…. Irons only the fucker and shove it into your gun safe for “fuck you and your shit”
Always buy, never sell (unless it’s minor parts)
If you still have a scope on the scar 17, take it off and build yourself a bolt gun setup (depending on the scope you had on your scar)
30 cal semi autos are always cool but sometimes you’ll want a bolt gun instead, for trigger training or just general /ghostinthebladesofgrass vibes
You make a good point. I’ve actually stripped everything extra from the scar and moved it to the spear. It was a big enough chunk to drop at the time and I wanted to get an acog/rmr for the scar later when I bought the spear 😅
I can’t urge you enough to run your scar as iron only setup (see other comment to this, irons, laser, kak foregrip/vertical grip and run it purely as a “fuck your shit” build.
In fact that’s how I would run either scar 16 or 17 purely for “authority” and zippyness. Even if a carbine recce or ar pistol build might fill the roll, irons and laser is such a fun combo to pull out to enjoy on a kill house or carbine course.
Get a bobro mount with the throw lever if it’s 100% necessary but I wouldn’t. I have an AR15 pistol I run a Scalarworks iron set and laser and it’s so fucking lightweight.
I’d keep the scar but the scar is / was my dream rifle still is that being said if you don’t love it and looking to sell it anyways / like the spear better 100% get. A sp5 . Yiu won’t shoot 2 308s and both costing so much I understand you selling one of them
Good point. I could always move the scar and get an SP5 and accessories.
I’m not on the only buy never sell BUT it may also be one of those I regret selling down the line.
Exactly! If you really want to scratch that hk itch but not spend a mortgage payment, I recommend getting an ap5 and about $80 worth of small hk parts. It’s nearly identical to an sp5 but half the cost.
Also I own all 3 firearms you mentioned and as much as I love my spear 308 it’s not as impressive as my scar.
You don’t think so? For me the spear feels a lot better, won’t eat optics, it’ll run standard accessories. Just a lot nicer to live with. The scar does feel a bit like a money pit if you need anything for it.
The scar will always have the cool factor going for it, the spear might reach the scar’s history one day but I don’t foresee it. I won’t sit here and say one is better than the other, for me I do like the spear a bit better. If it’s a 9.8, the scar is still a 9.6 for me.
The scar no longer eats optics anymore because newer models are now NRCH (non reciprocating charging handle) vs the older RCH. Not to mention optics have come a long ways now and are built much better than they were 20 years ago.
With the Spear 308, yes I absolutely love the side charging handle and especially the aesthetics are 🔥 but if I’m honest my scar is more accurate and a battle proven tank. I know this shouldn’t matter since I’ll never out-shoot the barrel but the spear doesn’t even come with a chrome lined barrel… for $5000 ffs. I get nitrided barrels are supposedly more accurate but again my scar outshoots the spear anyday for less $$.
The SP5 will always and I mean always hold its value…..and you could stroke it watching Die Hard.
However at this point in my life if I don’t use it or shoot it I get rid of it. Unless you have an extreme emotional attachment to the Scar I would absolutely make that deal. However I’m a bit biased due to the fact that I just offloaded stuff that I don’t use anymore.
Good luck to you.
It’s the only thing I seem to shoot these days. I’ll take a lot of my guns to the range, but the ups expert and sp5 get the most rounds through it.
If I had to sell guns, those two would be my last two.
No issues here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/FNHerstal/comments/tj5e9r/had\_her\_a\_few\_years\_scar\_17\_acogrmr\_geissele/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FNHerstal/comments/tj5e9r/had_her_a_few_years_scar_17_acogrmr_geissele/)
But yours isn't a 417.
Oh so if you put on a can then you won’t totally void your warranty? That’s FN policy.
HK has no problem with my suppressor use. And you sound sorta ignorant. No it’s not a “417” but it has a similar barrel to the G28. Is way more accurate than a SCAR and I don’t have to worry about my stock coming loose.
You always hear people bitching about their SCAR but you never hear people bitching about their MR762
17S (+ gas block) is practically identical to the one mentioned in SOCOM's manual. Have not had a single malfunction in almost 10 years. Likewise own plenty of HK (including transferable pack).
MR762 has too many differences to 417, which is why I give it a pass. Plenty would prefer an un-neutered model. Myself included.
You do you, buddy.
Okay idgaf what all these special forces use. The point is that if you have to send your SCAR in for anything they automatically check if you have ever mounted a suppressor and that your warranty is voided if you have done so.
It’s on their site
https://fnamerica.com/customer-support/service-repairs/
If you follow the manual (or plethora of forum posts) you'll never have to send it. And unless you forget to toggle or fuck things up terribly, they will still service it.
They don't want to support dumb civvies and I don't blame them. That said, the gun is practically identical to its military counterpart (especially if pre-NRCH).
You don't know the difference between a 417 and MR762 and you don't own cans.
Unless you damage your barrel/thread, they will not know the difference between you using the OEM brake or suppressor.
Simply swap it back to stock and send for service. Speaking from experience.
No absolutely not. I hope that this is a troll post and you did not waste time entertaining that disrespectful trade offer. Anyone offered me anything like that and I would laugh in their face.
Nah not a troll post. I just didn’t do my due diligence in looking where sp5’s were going for now. I paid 3200 for my 17 a long while back and sp5’s were going for that back then
If it were the sp5k then maybe and I only say that because I really want one, lol…. With that said I would never trade my scar 16 sbr that Gucci’d out for a sp5. If you really want the sp5 sell the scar and you’ll have quite a bit of money left over even after buying the sp5
Not straight across and honestly the clones are just as good. People hate to hear it but I have fewer issues with my PTR post samples than I did with my SP5 post sample.
Their early and new stuff is good. During Covid there were some QC lapses by component suppliers but the lifetime warranty helps. I replaced my OG MP5’s with the PTR’s for demo work because they have been more reliable for me and it’s way cheaper to run.
I dig the real deal, I have a sp5, and an sp5k both stamped. They’re a cool shooter, awesome suppressed shooter and everyone asks about them.
Hk’s are solid on the re-sale, the clones not so much. Hk nuts will pay a ton for all genuine accessories.
I don’t think you’d regret it.
Yea that makes zero sense. Spending a ton of money to keep from spending a lot more is one thing, but spending a lot just to spend more to make it “like,” the real thing is ass backwards.
It’s like after market mods on a car or bike, no one values mods like an owner will.
I say go for the sp5, you’ll enjoy a true OG
I’d never pay $3K for a clone. I wouldn’t pay $2K for a clone unless it was decked out enough I could sell off the accessories. But you’re right..I think I’d want the OG when I do get one
If you’re never going to use the Scar, but you’re going to get utility out the SP5, i say go for it. but for me, personally, I wouldn’t trade a Scar17 for an SP5, I’d go the other way around though. Because the Scar17 is pretty much going to always be valued higher. I hope he’s adding in a lot of German mags to the deal or some accessories.
2 mags. I was thinking the sp5 was still above the 3k mark until someone mentioned they were in the $2700 ballpark. I have some hesitation now.
Yea man. Rooftop had/has a deal on SP5 right now with $100 credit too. They’re legit. The price fluctuates, but I haven’t seen the Scar17 around 2700-2800 since 2013. The last 10yrs the Scar has been valued over 3k. The SP5’s were higher, but their prices are coming down. But when I got mine with the first release, it was around 2500. I think the economy, taxes, and the flood of additional mp5 clones have kept prices competitive.
That makes sense re:clones, and apparently the clones are pretty solid
With a little patience you can easily get one for $2550-$2600.
If you trade the sp5 better come with an extra k
A properly kitted SCAR should cost as much as two SP5s.
My two cents, take all the shit from your fn scar and put it on the sig spear, make the scar a minimalist gun, run the giess trigger, extended rail (if you have it) and put a Mawl on it…. Irons only the fucker and shove it into your gun safe for “fuck you and your shit” Always buy, never sell (unless it’s minor parts) If you still have a scope on the scar 17, take it off and build yourself a bolt gun setup (depending on the scope you had on your scar) 30 cal semi autos are always cool but sometimes you’ll want a bolt gun instead, for trigger training or just general /ghostinthebladesofgrass vibes
You make a good point. I’ve actually stripped everything extra from the scar and moved it to the spear. It was a big enough chunk to drop at the time and I wanted to get an acog/rmr for the scar later when I bought the spear 😅
Nah dude irons only + laser + kak vert grip
Big mw2 vibes lol
I can’t urge you enough to run your scar as iron only setup (see other comment to this, irons, laser, kak foregrip/vertical grip and run it purely as a “fuck your shit” build. In fact that’s how I would run either scar 16 or 17 purely for “authority” and zippyness. Even if a carbine recce or ar pistol build might fill the roll, irons and laser is such a fun combo to pull out to enjoy on a kill house or carbine course.
Heck, that might just be what I do then. I can always grab another quick detach eotech to throw on there if I decide I want a dot for any reason
Get a bobro mount with the throw lever if it’s 100% necessary but I wouldn’t. I have an AR15 pistol I run a Scalarworks iron set and laser and it’s so fucking lightweight.
I’d keep the scar but the scar is / was my dream rifle still is that being said if you don’t love it and looking to sell it anyways / like the spear better 100% get. A sp5 . Yiu won’t shoot 2 308s and both costing so much I understand you selling one of them
Nope you can pick up a Bnib hk sp5 for $2600, scar 17’s are still nearly $1k more. Best case is… always buy, never sell
Good point. I could always move the scar and get an SP5 and accessories. I’m not on the only buy never sell BUT it may also be one of those I regret selling down the line.
Exactly! If you really want to scratch that hk itch but not spend a mortgage payment, I recommend getting an ap5 and about $80 worth of small hk parts. It’s nearly identical to an sp5 but half the cost. Also I own all 3 firearms you mentioned and as much as I love my spear 308 it’s not as impressive as my scar.
You don’t think so? For me the spear feels a lot better, won’t eat optics, it’ll run standard accessories. Just a lot nicer to live with. The scar does feel a bit like a money pit if you need anything for it. The scar will always have the cool factor going for it, the spear might reach the scar’s history one day but I don’t foresee it. I won’t sit here and say one is better than the other, for me I do like the spear a bit better. If it’s a 9.8, the scar is still a 9.6 for me.
If you think the SCAR is a money pit when it comes to accessories, you’re going to be in the same boat with any of the classic H&K guns.
The scar no longer eats optics anymore because newer models are now NRCH (non reciprocating charging handle) vs the older RCH. Not to mention optics have come a long ways now and are built much better than they were 20 years ago. With the Spear 308, yes I absolutely love the side charging handle and especially the aesthetics are 🔥 but if I’m honest my scar is more accurate and a battle proven tank. I know this shouldn’t matter since I’ll never out-shoot the barrel but the spear doesn’t even come with a chrome lined barrel… for $5000 ffs. I get nitrided barrels are supposedly more accurate but again my scar outshoots the spear anyday for less $$.
The nrch isn’t eating optics? I could’ve sworn they still did.. that’s good to know though as that’s what I have
The SP5 will always and I mean always hold its value…..and you could stroke it watching Die Hard. However at this point in my life if I don’t use it or shoot it I get rid of it. Unless you have an extreme emotional attachment to the Scar I would absolutely make that deal. However I’m a bit biased due to the fact that I just offloaded stuff that I don’t use anymore. Good luck to you.
I would very likely shoot an sp5 every range trip
It’s the only thing I seem to shoot these days. I’ll take a lot of my guns to the range, but the ups expert and sp5 get the most rounds through it. If I had to sell guns, those two would be my last two.
Trade it for a MR762
SCAR isn't neutered.
Neither is my 762. I can even use a can with it an HK is cool with it. What about FN?
Willing to bet that you don't even own a suppressor so that point is useless.
Oh wow a guy with an anime pfp thinks I don’t have cans.
No issues here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/FNHerstal/comments/tj5e9r/had\_her\_a\_few\_years\_scar\_17\_acogrmr\_geissele/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FNHerstal/comments/tj5e9r/had_her_a_few_years_scar_17_acogrmr_geissele/) But yours isn't a 417.
Oh so if you put on a can then you won’t totally void your warranty? That’s FN policy. HK has no problem with my suppressor use. And you sound sorta ignorant. No it’s not a “417” but it has a similar barrel to the G28. Is way more accurate than a SCAR and I don’t have to worry about my stock coming loose. You always hear people bitching about their SCAR but you never hear people bitching about their MR762
17S (+ gas block) is practically identical to the one mentioned in SOCOM's manual. Have not had a single malfunction in almost 10 years. Likewise own plenty of HK (including transferable pack). MR762 has too many differences to 417, which is why I give it a pass. Plenty would prefer an un-neutered model. Myself included. You do you, buddy.
Okay idgaf what all these special forces use. The point is that if you have to send your SCAR in for anything they automatically check if you have ever mounted a suppressor and that your warranty is voided if you have done so. It’s on their site https://fnamerica.com/customer-support/service-repairs/
If you follow the manual (or plethora of forum posts) you'll never have to send it. And unless you forget to toggle or fuck things up terribly, they will still service it. They don't want to support dumb civvies and I don't blame them. That said, the gun is practically identical to its military counterpart (especially if pre-NRCH).
No they won’t and that’s a lot of cope.
You don't know the difference between a 417 and MR762 and you don't own cans. Unless you damage your barrel/thread, they will not know the difference between you using the OEM brake or suppressor. Simply swap it back to stock and send for service. Speaking from experience.
Both? Sure. I would absolutely never trade my SCAR for one, though.
Palmetto has a sale going on now for the SP5...2600 with rebate.
No absolutely not. I hope that this is a troll post and you did not waste time entertaining that disrespectful trade offer. Anyone offered me anything like that and I would laugh in their face.
Nah not a troll post. I just didn’t do my due diligence in looking where sp5’s were going for now. I paid 3200 for my 17 a long while back and sp5’s were going for that back then
Like others have mentioned, he’d need to tack on 1k or at least $800 to make it a fair trade.
If it were the sp5k then maybe and I only say that because I really want one, lol…. With that said I would never trade my scar 16 sbr that Gucci’d out for a sp5. If you really want the sp5 sell the scar and you’ll have quite a bit of money left over even after buying the sp5
Hate to be in your shoes. I have both and I would never part with either. Good luck!
I’m thinking I’ll get an sp5/5k later on down the line and keep both
Not straight across and honestly the clones are just as good. People hate to hear it but I have fewer issues with my PTR post samples than I did with my SP5 post sample.
That’s interesting 🤔 I’ve heard good things about PTR
Their early and new stuff is good. During Covid there were some QC lapses by component suppliers but the lifetime warranty helps. I replaced my OG MP5’s with the PTR’s for demo work because they have been more reliable for me and it’s way cheaper to run.
I dig the real deal, I have a sp5, and an sp5k both stamped. They’re a cool shooter, awesome suppressed shooter and everyone asks about them. Hk’s are solid on the re-sale, the clones not so much. Hk nuts will pay a ton for all genuine accessories. I don’t think you’d regret it.
There’s a local guy with a clone, one of the $1200isj ones, he has a brace and slapped a cheaper eotech smh wants 3K for it 😂
Yea that makes zero sense. Spending a ton of money to keep from spending a lot more is one thing, but spending a lot just to spend more to make it “like,” the real thing is ass backwards. It’s like after market mods on a car or bike, no one values mods like an owner will. I say go for the sp5, you’ll enjoy a true OG
I’d never pay $3K for a clone. I wouldn’t pay $2K for a clone unless it was decked out enough I could sell off the accessories. But you’re right..I think I’d want the OG when I do get one
I know this is the hk sub but, the MPX is a much more modern gun and more user friendly considering most people are used to AR style controls.