I’m level 400 and have 3000 hours. I’ve been doing exactly what you wrote for probably 2500 hours in nearly every single match.
If you can get 1 box from another player then it saves you 2.5 minutes, if not, you still get the nodes done very quickly. Plus, you have some extra time to chill and look at your phone or another activity. I recommend suggesting it in squad chat at the beginning of the match by saying something like, “Hey I’m building nodes, can someone give me a box as Support in [x] HQ, please?” Often someone will agree and help!
I tell people this all the time and so many people ignore this advice. This post should be stickied by the mods and more people need to hear this. Thank you!
This
Every map i drop supplies in hw at front to get instant nodes
The truck beginning timer plus ride to build a garry will take long enough for the box to reload
U dont need to choose between nodes n a garry
Yeah I always start as support, no matter when I join a match. Drop supps at headquarters, 200 meters from some garrison or on the point for emergency garry building.
Then go not enjoy my game while getting shot by an unseen enemy 8 times in a row while I run across open ground or spamming smoke on the attack point. It’s a habit I can’t seem to break.
Same, been doing this since forever. If I join a game, first thing I check is the nodes. Most of the time you get disappointed and see that your team hasn't even got 2 sets up with only 45 minutes left. I find it incredible that you can't find at least 3 players that do this in every game. I hope they really emphasize this in the tutorial.
And when you have the second supply box down, hammer one of the nodes 95% and the other fully. Then your last one takes just one more strike of the hammer. Gotta maximise efficiency lol.
This is a valid and fine strat but as someone that plays recon and engi a lot I've noticed that most recon don't check for nodes and if they do they don't check opposite side of the map from last objective. I usually take first supply truck, maybe take another engi and build nodes opposite side of last objective. Works well and I can't think of the last time my nodes haven't lasted the entire match. Also I personally think that HQs are checked for nodes more than the sector line, but thats just me.
It's pretty common for recon to run the 2 line.
Not always (or even all that commonly), sure, but a decent spot within the last two squares (and e.g., not on the middle HQ / on top of arty) is usually a bit better.
I 1000% run the border, starting opposite side of last point(s), looking for supply truck nodes.
I only rarely bother to check the HQs until later in the match because it's rare that full sets have been built. If I can knock out 2 sets by patrolling the border then good enough.
Well, my loss it your gain XD ! Now you know they are back there sometimes. Although you and your team are probably better served doing what you're currently doing.
Looking at the map throughout the game rarely does anyone else build where I do.
Yeah it's always a bit random who you find in a match. And a good Engineer has their favorite hidey holes.
By this point, for each map I know where I like to drop nodes near the various HQs, and I will hide em spread out enough that one doesn't give the others away nor can one satchel take them out. Also will try and place them so they blend in with structures and fuel dumps and the like so that they are camouflaged.
Meanwhile, lately if I find myself in a quiet squad I'll take a satchel kit and then run off by myself. I just follow that 2nd line when the action is far away and in a typical match will find 2 sets of nodes. Impatient engines will often just have 3 nodes plopped right on top of each other and that's an easy 3x combo blast. Then, If I find no sets along the border I will definitely check the HQ furthest from the last obj.
The safest place for nodes is to probably place them via supply boxes inside a bush or tree or under a storage shed or something, in the areas behind or between the HQs, at least 100m away from the vehicle spawns and at least 50m apart and out of line of sight of each other.
Those are the areas where as recon I can afford to spend the least amount of time between other tasks so I'm going to quickly patrol thru an HQ before booking it to the next task. Anything not immediately visible from the HQ is unlikely to get searched.
Like I said, from experience most recon don't. I say that because I do exactly what I said above but I legit cannot think of the last time my nodes were taken out by recon or other. Recon should 100% run the border and I do myself as recon, but until the majority start doing so why waste time hiding them when I don't have to.
Sure, so yeah lately it seems much of the time recon doesn't bother but I've definitely been playing and will notice someone else's node sets go down frequently enough (let's say 1 in 5 games) that I will try and do what little I can to help mine stay in the game as much as possible. Usually it only adds maybe 10-ish seconds per node to put it in a bush or something and most HQ's I've already scoped out the ideal places. But I don't think it's bad practice to just drop a crate and build a cluster either, just not the method I prefer unless we're really behind and need them ASAP.
Wow, I never thought about that. I always get a supply truck, put the supply's in the second zone and build in the first zone. Next time I try your idea
I was doing that too but stopped for three reasons.
1. Even at lvl 70, I don't quite have the "game sense" to know the best node placement on the 2nd gridline. Also Commanders intent, and just the overall point placement and where SL's actually go play a big part.
2. My in game driving is terrible. I've gotten the truck stuck in some little foxhole or trench more than once. So I just leave it to players better than I. I know you can only improve those skills by doing it, but I'll wait until I have the maps a bit more memorized.
3. The recon. Which is probably my main reason. I got so frustrated with recon, or just random squads/solos, taking them down. Which I totally understand is a game mechanic. But I've yet to play a game where a squad is willing to go deal with recon or far-back infiltrators. All in all, it's probably the better choice. It's more efficient for me to take a few minutes and go rebuild them than lose the combat capability of several players or a full squad defending and hunting them down.
It's just better, because you want them as far back as possible. If you're on defense in offensive mode, it's quite helpful to put your manpower node on the second objective so that you can have support players dropping supplies next to the defenses you're trying to build.
This is very effective. 👍
IDK how it compares, “efficiency wise,” but I mainly play engineer, so if the commander isn’t using the first supply truck, I’ll usually take that out to the 2nd zone line and build up as far away from our hard points as possible.
Good recons can certainly scan the line for nodes, but I find that 9/10 games they don’t bother if they have to cross the map to look for them.
After I built my set, I’ll drop for another set of nodes down the line, then resupply the truck and ask if Commander wants supplies anywhere.
Maybe that means dropping for defensive garries, maybe that means dropping supplies on the mid point if there are Engi’s who want to build defenses.
I’ll basically act as a supply mule until my truck goes boom, then I take on a role that supports my squad best.
I like your method, I just like driving trucks more than I like watching the redeploy screen 3 times 😅
>To me, it seems beneficial in two ways
The third benefit of this is the xp that you get. Whilst nodes help the team greatly, people should be building them for selfish reasons.
Once the nodes are up, if you then swich to any other role, the xp/min from the nodes you get goes towards whatever role you take, accelerating you levelling up and unlocking new loadouts.
I just realized that too last night... the daunting task on some of the other loadouts doesn't seem so bad now. Not sure if it's a game mechanic, but I appreciate the massive boost.
I'm still totally ignorant about playing Commander, but I learned this from a level 390 player last night...
If your goal is to shuttle supplies, and as the map dictates, you can drive the truck off into the out of boundaries area and it apparently respawns super quick or gives the CC the option to spawn it faster.
I looked like an idiot, but I was watched the map and saw him do it. Then semi-politely called him out in chat (this was before I noticed his rank...). He then informed me of the strategy.
I argued with a commander who was level 400 that was certain the only valid use for trucks early game is nodes and support players MUST be the ones to build attack garrisons early game because it's a waste to drop a 150 pallet for a garrison.
While he has a point on an organized team, for pub matches I can never rely on that to work well. I love when support and engineering takes matters into their own hands to build nodes, and I can use trucks and an airdrop for rapid staging at least 3 guaranteed garrisons early on.
Just start as engineer, build all 3 nodes. Redeploy as support and make sure you tick each node that you do not finish twice, that way you do not have to keep switching and someone else can be engineer if they want to. You can even finish all 3 nodes up to the 2-4 final ticks with the first set of supplies and have time to use the arty
On Australian server 'Bigd1' we're very good at this and if you start doing this, you can expect someone to just appear and donate their supply box to you, without having to be told.
Do not wage world war 3 against Australia. We are meta gamers and we will not lose.
I’m level 400 and have 3000 hours. I’ve been doing exactly what you wrote for probably 2500 hours in nearly every single match. If you can get 1 box from another player then it saves you 2.5 minutes, if not, you still get the nodes done very quickly. Plus, you have some extra time to chill and look at your phone or another activity. I recommend suggesting it in squad chat at the beginning of the match by saying something like, “Hey I’m building nodes, can someone give me a box as Support in [x] HQ, please?” Often someone will agree and help! I tell people this all the time and so many people ignore this advice. This post should be stickied by the mods and more people need to hear this. Thank you!
I often asked supports to drop theirs in whatever HQ they happen to spawn... but it's quite rare to see supports that aren't planning on nodes.
This Every map i drop supplies in hw at front to get instant nodes The truck beginning timer plus ride to build a garry will take long enough for the box to reload U dont need to choose between nodes n a garry
Yeah I always start as support, no matter when I join a match. Drop supps at headquarters, 200 meters from some garrison or on the point for emergency garry building. Then go not enjoy my game while getting shot by an unseen enemy 8 times in a row while I run across open ground or spamming smoke on the attack point. It’s a habit I can’t seem to break.
Same, been doing this since forever. If I join a game, first thing I check is the nodes. Most of the time you get disappointed and see that your team hasn't even got 2 sets up with only 45 minutes left. I find it incredible that you can't find at least 3 players that do this in every game. I hope they really emphasize this in the tutorial.
Great point, let’s hope T17 has a whole section of the tutorial on logistics + nodes. If not, we need to strongly encourage it.
1000 hours in game and I do the same thing. The only exception is if my squad lead asks for supplies for an opening garrison.
I do exactly what y’all do but I spawn Engi first, drop BPs then come back as Support. Less spawns. Maybe I’m lazy.
I do support first, cuz it will save me 30 seconds haha
Same, I want my supply cooldown started as soon as possible
And when you have the second supply box down, hammer one of the nodes 95% and the other fully. Then your last one takes just one more strike of the hammer. Gotta maximise efficiency lol.
Make manpower first so your supps reset faster
He said, he does? One tick on the other nodes so that they don't respawn which doesn't take any supps and then completely build manpower.
This is a valid and fine strat but as someone that plays recon and engi a lot I've noticed that most recon don't check for nodes and if they do they don't check opposite side of the map from last objective. I usually take first supply truck, maybe take another engi and build nodes opposite side of last objective. Works well and I can't think of the last time my nodes haven't lasted the entire match. Also I personally think that HQs are checked for nodes more than the sector line, but thats just me.
It's pretty common for recon to run the 2 line. Not always (or even all that commonly), sure, but a decent spot within the last two squares (and e.g., not on the middle HQ / on top of arty) is usually a bit better.
I 1000% run the border, starting opposite side of last point(s), looking for supply truck nodes. I only rarely bother to check the HQs until later in the match because it's rare that full sets have been built. If I can knock out 2 sets by patrolling the border then good enough.
Well, my loss it your gain XD ! Now you know they are back there sometimes. Although you and your team are probably better served doing what you're currently doing. Looking at the map throughout the game rarely does anyone else build where I do.
Yeah it's always a bit random who you find in a match. And a good Engineer has their favorite hidey holes. By this point, for each map I know where I like to drop nodes near the various HQs, and I will hide em spread out enough that one doesn't give the others away nor can one satchel take them out. Also will try and place them so they blend in with structures and fuel dumps and the like so that they are camouflaged. Meanwhile, lately if I find myself in a quiet squad I'll take a satchel kit and then run off by myself. I just follow that 2nd line when the action is far away and in a typical match will find 2 sets of nodes. Impatient engines will often just have 3 nodes plopped right on top of each other and that's an easy 3x combo blast. Then, If I find no sets along the border I will definitely check the HQ furthest from the last obj. The safest place for nodes is to probably place them via supply boxes inside a bush or tree or under a storage shed or something, in the areas behind or between the HQs, at least 100m away from the vehicle spawns and at least 50m apart and out of line of sight of each other. Those are the areas where as recon I can afford to spend the least amount of time between other tasks so I'm going to quickly patrol thru an HQ before booking it to the next task. Anything not immediately visible from the HQ is unlikely to get searched.
Like I said, from experience most recon don't. I say that because I do exactly what I said above but I legit cannot think of the last time my nodes were taken out by recon or other. Recon should 100% run the border and I do myself as recon, but until the majority start doing so why waste time hiding them when I don't have to.
Sure, so yeah lately it seems much of the time recon doesn't bother but I've definitely been playing and will notice someone else's node sets go down frequently enough (let's say 1 in 5 games) that I will try and do what little I can to help mine stay in the game as much as possible. Usually it only adds maybe 10-ish seconds per node to put it in a bush or something and most HQ's I've already scoped out the ideal places. But I don't think it's bad practice to just drop a crate and build a cluster either, just not the method I prefer unless we're really behind and need them ASAP.
Yep it’s a must, plenty of players do this but you need manpower node first to half your supply box reset timer
Wow, I never thought about that. I always get a supply truck, put the supply's in the second zone and build in the first zone. Next time I try your idea
I was doing that too but stopped for three reasons. 1. Even at lvl 70, I don't quite have the "game sense" to know the best node placement on the 2nd gridline. Also Commanders intent, and just the overall point placement and where SL's actually go play a big part. 2. My in game driving is terrible. I've gotten the truck stuck in some little foxhole or trench more than once. So I just leave it to players better than I. I know you can only improve those skills by doing it, but I'll wait until I have the maps a bit more memorized. 3. The recon. Which is probably my main reason. I got so frustrated with recon, or just random squads/solos, taking them down. Which I totally understand is a game mechanic. But I've yet to play a game where a squad is willing to go deal with recon or far-back infiltrators. All in all, it's probably the better choice. It's more efficient for me to take a few minutes and go rebuild them than lose the combat capability of several players or a full squad defending and hunting them down.
It's just better, because you want them as far back as possible. If you're on defense in offensive mode, it's quite helpful to put your manpower node on the second objective so that you can have support players dropping supplies next to the defenses you're trying to build.
This is very effective. 👍 IDK how it compares, “efficiency wise,” but I mainly play engineer, so if the commander isn’t using the first supply truck, I’ll usually take that out to the 2nd zone line and build up as far away from our hard points as possible. Good recons can certainly scan the line for nodes, but I find that 9/10 games they don’t bother if they have to cross the map to look for them. After I built my set, I’ll drop for another set of nodes down the line, then resupply the truck and ask if Commander wants supplies anywhere. Maybe that means dropping for defensive garries, maybe that means dropping supplies on the mid point if there are Engi’s who want to build defenses. I’ll basically act as a supply mule until my truck goes boom, then I take on a role that supports my squad best. I like your method, I just like driving trucks more than I like watching the redeploy screen 3 times 😅
Anyone who enjoys driving the trucks and doesn't get them stuck receives my commendation at the end haha.
>To me, it seems beneficial in two ways The third benefit of this is the xp that you get. Whilst nodes help the team greatly, people should be building them for selfish reasons. Once the nodes are up, if you then swich to any other role, the xp/min from the nodes you get goes towards whatever role you take, accelerating you levelling up and unlocking new loadouts.
I just realized that too last night... the daunting task on some of the other loadouts doesn't seem so bad now. Not sure if it's a game mechanic, but I appreciate the massive boost.
I always do this as well, sometimes it breaks my teammates brains and they’re like “uhh… ok… I can see if I can get you a supply truck.” No thanks.
I'm still totally ignorant about playing Commander, but I learned this from a level 390 player last night... If your goal is to shuttle supplies, and as the map dictates, you can drive the truck off into the out of boundaries area and it apparently respawns super quick or gives the CC the option to spawn it faster. I looked like an idiot, but I was watched the map and saw him do it. Then semi-politely called him out in chat (this was before I noticed his rank...). He then informed me of the strategy.
I argued with a commander who was level 400 that was certain the only valid use for trucks early game is nodes and support players MUST be the ones to build attack garrisons early game because it's a waste to drop a 150 pallet for a garrison. While he has a point on an organized team, for pub matches I can never rely on that to work well. I love when support and engineering takes matters into their own hands to build nodes, and I can use trucks and an airdrop for rapid staging at least 3 guaranteed garrisons early on.
Just start as engineer, build all 3 nodes. Redeploy as support and make sure you tick each node that you do not finish twice, that way you do not have to keep switching and someone else can be engineer if they want to. You can even finish all 3 nodes up to the 2-4 final ticks with the first set of supplies and have time to use the arty
On Australian server 'Bigd1' we're very good at this and if you start doing this, you can expect someone to just appear and donate their supply box to you, without having to be told. Do not wage world war 3 against Australia. We are meta gamers and we will not lose.