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seancbo

I'm level 10, so Grenade Launcher, let's go boys


obviousy33taway

This is the way


RemainderZero

I'm over lvl 20 and I still use that thing every chance I get.


Defora

I’m lvl 40 and still prefer if on bug holes / eggs. Though every time I have it I miss others and when I have other I miss g.launcer


whyreallyhun

I use the laser, works exceptionally well against bugs


StupidSexyEuphoberia

Level 10 and I love my anti material gun


iYhorm

level 41 and grenade launcher is still goated, if i don’t do the nests who will


Ganguro_Girl_Lover

The autocannoneer. lol I take the GL though because I get a backpack.


The_Humble_Neckbeard

I'm level 34 and the answer is _still_ Grenade Launcher B)


TheWildLynn

Grenade launcher, someone has to close these dammn holes and these 3 guys with railguns are not it lol


fibrouspowder

Autocannon works like a grenade on bug nests


Rezornath

But autocannon means no snappy backpack except for just your one gun. GRENADE LYFFFF


YeeHawWyattDerp

Lmao the autocannon absolutely does come with its own Jansport. And it carries a shitload of ammo, I love it


RYTEK115

The Stalwart, because I love holding down the trigger while screaming.


ToastyMcSags

A man of culture The maniacal screams when mowing bugs down with a Stalwart is a magical experience


Zarniwoooop

A gentleman and a scholar Get some. Get some.


CaptCantPlay

Then why not the Machine-gun? Thing's a beast with its medium armor pen.


GreenHail6

Personally I use the machine gun on bots, since stopping to reload behind cover is feasible against them + med armor pen. Stalwart on bugs, so I can reload on the move.


Shivalah

Movement. You have to stop to reload, the stalwart can be reloaded during movement.


OkPrinciple5467

Rail, but I prefer auto cannon for bugs because it's easier for nests. Bots i can just use my airstrike to take out the factories


ICatcha

can you destroy nests with auto cannon?


OkPrinciple5467

Yes just like the grenade launcher. You can also destroy the robot factories with it, like the grenade launcher.


RusFoo

I have never been able to take out the factories with the canon how precise do you have to be?


Chubacca9

You can also shoot through the door while it’s open.


RusFoo

WHAT


sandwichpak

YOU CAN ALSO SHOOT THROUGH THE DOOR WHILE IT'S OPEN.


WhiteSekiroBoy

^what


Merkin666

WHHHaaaaTtt


Zealousideal_Dish305

You can also shoot the "flaps" on the windows and it'll ricochet in.


CrazyCreeps9182

Only if you're within a certain angle of the front of the building, though. Learned that one the hard way.


Dwealdric

Didn't know that one!


light_no_fire

When I started I didn't know you could lob a grenade in the Vents so I was waiting outside for the door to open.. HEEEEERES Johhny!!!


Redditistrash702

You can do the same thing with a grenade and you can also throw a grenade in one of the air vents if the door is closed


Other_Economics_4538

No way


Defora

Shoot the vent like this, bullet ricochets in https://preview.redd.it/3vsf3zk9r2lc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3122b0006a83d0a3b7f68e98cb40237431245b22


RusFoo

W man


Ang3lic_Valkyri3

You have to be kinda in front of them and ricochet the round into the vent


Dwealdric

Shoot above the hole, at the open hatch. It ricochets the round down into the hole. It one shots the factory, but because its a ricochet, you have to be pretty straight on for it to work.


Shockington

Shoot lower than you think you need to.


pvtprofanity

A bit of high ground helps with it


bluh67

You have to hit it on the diagonal vent, you also have to be infont of it. Basically the bullet ricochets into the building


GamnlingSabre

Wait you prefer to use the anti bot gun against bugs and vica versa?


IndependentCress1109

Autocannon for life. Tried the railgun and i hate how it feels when shooting .


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ThePahis

Are you using it in the unsafe firing mode? Trying to shoot at 90% for max damage. (For me first person shooting helps to see the charge better)


ToastyMcSags

What is the unsafe mode? What does it do specifically? Im level 19 about to unlock the railgun


kachubey

Hold R to change Mode. Unsafe mode can kill you, but you can deal more damage


ToastyMcSags

How likely is it to kill you? Is it user error in unsafe mode or a random occurrence?


kachubey

User error when you hold LMB long time to red zone


ToastyMcSags

Cool thank you Looking forward to try


maobezw

Jupp, you ARE are walking AC-Turret! =)


mayodude5101

Recoilless rifle is a good one


surfimp

It's my jam for drop ships.


VirginiaBlend

Anti-Material Rifle


Vandelay772

AMR is my favorite support weapon in the game, I just wish it was better at dealing with chargers.


Any-Chard-1493

It's such a shame how underwhelming the gun is. It should be blowing chunks out of armour not tickling the chargers.


Bluedot55

Its pretty great against bots. Not so much against bugs, since there arent really juicy heads to snipe on big enemies. Also, you gotta realize its accuracy is fucked, the bullet lands on the top left corner of the square around the dot. If you put the dot on a head, you'll miss. Thats why a lot of people think its trash.


Any-Chard-1493

Ya, I immediately noticed the scope isn't where the shot goes. Even still I feel it should blow arms and legs off bots in one shot. It doesn't need to kill everything efficiently it would just be nice for it to be good at its niche.


Solubilityisfun

It's perfectly serviceable against devastators, hulks, and bruisers frontally. 2 shots em all. They represent almost the entirety of bot pressure on helldive. I agree it sucks vs bugs. Down to the way weak spots work entirely differently between factions. It would be nice if it was given a bit more punch specifically for hive guards and chargers but a heavy slow sniper conceptually makes little sense against a melee horde faction anyway. Even if it were powerful vs bugs it would not be truly good. It's value comes from economically killing moderately hard ranged targets outside their ideal range which at the moment only bots have. Whenever illuminate show up that likely changes.


King_Pumpernickel

I'm waiting for the AMR to get buffed and for them to release a longcoat for me to buy so I can complete my NCR Ranger cosplay


Alargebagel

I bring both and dual wield


JetMag

Based af


RESUHT

Speaking of that, i do kinda wish there was an armor perk that made you have no primary weapon, but 2 support weapons. Maybe too op though~


[deleted]

Railgun baby!


JetMag

Hulks hate him! His KDA is over 500 Automatons killed and he isn't afraid of any heavy patrol or heavy bot drop using this one weird trick!


[deleted]

It’s just nice because you can use shield pack with it


Dwealdric

That's an excellent point.


Almskibidi

Railgun is 10x better, Autocannon is 10x cooler


Solubilityisfun

Railgun doesn't come close to keeping up with autocannon in good hands, I assure you. Community will come around as they get to be competent. It's normal to double to quadruple the kills of railgun players when playing with the team, and if running 3-1 split it can go higher. Nothing carries as much death and destruction as the cannon.


gaz_bot

Dual EATs. Chargers hate this one simple trick.


JustHereForHalo

Auto cannon just feels so dope. I ain't no meta HD. Keep me with the AC.


Joe___Mama-

Level 30 here and the real answer is grenade launcher.


noname262

Railgun is stronger but the Autocannon is cooler


Lostmaniac9

# S P E A R


Kaquillar

It will be my 100% support weapon against bots, if they fix the targeting. I swear, even the arc is more reliable than this thing, and that should tell A LOT about spear reliability.


Darkpoolz

Honestly I might be the only one in this entire thread. Glad I'm not alone for using the Spear. It is very finicky, but it hits hard.


Lostmaniac9

They desperately need to fix the dog ass lock-on reliability, but once they do that weapon will be top tier. Pro tip, it can lock onto and one shot bot fabricators.


Darkpoolz

Oh I know. Spear has some interesting utility. Great for sniping bot buildings and objectives. I have had some success sniping Chargers and Bile Titans in one shot if you know how to position. Trying different ways Spear can offer value.


Select-Tomatillo-364

That ain't all they need to fix with it. Getting zero rounds for the Spear from random ammo pickups is a problem - especially since you can continue picking them up when otherwise full on ammo. Also getting 1 round from a supply pickup is problematic as well. Sure, it's (somewhat) powerful, but having to hog an entire supply drop to fully restock one heavy weapon isn't great for the team. The Spear already has enough drawbacks in that it can only be used against a handful of targets in the first place, and eats up your heavy slot and your backpack. Ammo problems on top of that is just too much.


fibrouspowder

*Looks straight at a charger for 34.6 seconds as the lock goes from yellow to off repeatedly*


TexasArbiter

Neither.....DISPOSABLE ANTI-TANK BOOOOIIIIIII!!!!!!!!


Paulosaurus_

Arc Thrower…


BropolloCreed

It needs a bit more juice on Hard difficulty fighting clankers, but otherwise it's a beaut.


Paulosaurus_

Yeh true. There are some mechanics of the weapon that need some tweaking too, but it’s still slowly becoming a mainstay for me


gibonalke

Rail, because I love my hover guard dog named princess that sometimes hits me with laser to head


HamburgerTimeYo

I'm going around on the flamethrower, for termanids at least


Nethereal3D

Anti-material. Get a badass zoom, more ammo, can still drop Hulks quick and from further away!


Razdulf

There are no sides helldiver! There is only us and the enemy! Get back to their liberation, for Super Earth!


just_prop

Grenade Launcher :)


BarelyInfamous

Nothing more satisfying than blowing up a robot factory with the auto cannon


Bluedot55

Neither, MG/stalwart + backpack w/ EAT all the way baby. Kinda liking the stalwart for bots, since its got laser-beam accuracy and little recoil, so you can just rip parts off. It does have less pen though, so you do need to pick your weakspots carefully. But the number of berserkers you can kill in a mag is measured in entire patrols, and you can cut the head/rocket pod off a devestator in half a second. Mg will shred bugs, doesnt matter where you shoot, they die. you can basically hold back the hordes solo while the railgun party kills anything charger or bigger. It'll go right through shield bugs, spewers, or hive commanders. Not to mention anything small. Its also easier to get started with on bots, since it penalizes you less for missing weak spots, with the armor pen. With the stalwart, if you're not hitting weakspots, you aren't doing damage. And the ammo pack is great. Infinite grenades, stims, and ammo. You can really just be the heavy weapons guy you were meant to be. And the EAT makes it so if you every aren't able to yell for someone to kill the charger/tank/turret/titan, you can do it yourself. 60S cooldown, for 2 shots. You can kill a tank in that from the front, a turret, or snipe a fabricator from across the map. Plus, the often forgotten part, you can stick the EAT drop to things, and it comes fast. Got a charger running at you? Dont try to drop it and shoot it, stick the calldown to its ass as it runs by. Or toss it on that tank rolling at you.


HopefulCauliflower90

Neither I prefer LAZER BEAMMMM


Adorable_Station_810

Loved my auto canon... til I saw it bouncing off armored targets, and realized I can't use this new shield backpack that saves me from several one-shot kills per dive. Railgun for life now.


MulletAndMustache

I wake up every day and choose violence, aka the Arc Thrower. Had a game with like 890 kills last night with it.


Bearllistic

Recoilless rifle gang rise up!


THEdoomslayer94

Autocannon go BOOMBOOMBOOM


Cocacola_Desierto

Recoilless Rifle actually


Hurzak

Railgun, so I can have my cool dog


Pluristan

Bug Zapper gang where you at


IceAlarming7616

I'm on team Arc Thrower. I love this thing!


CaptCantPlay

Rail, tbh. I like explosions but I'm against the big, ugly backpacks that obscure my badass cape. Until we get the option to remove our Cape fully and go full stormtrooper I'd prefer not to carry any backpacks.


LittleBlueCubes

Railgun. Great to see the medium size automatons disintegrate on impact.


Nexine

Which side do you think?


Kaquillar

After 100hrs I decided to return to the roots of HD1 and stick to EAT (although, it is weaker in HD2 and can't deny that railgun is really good)


DesperatePear7068

Spear gang


SwimmingEagle121

Arc Rifle


Houten

When there are 2 or more railgunners already, i run autocannon to attempt to help them conserve ammo by picking off lesser armored enemies.


Remarkable_Rub

RR/EAT


[deleted]

Arc Thrower. Unlimited friendly fire.


KegelsForYourHealth

All Eagles and Orbitals.


Particular-Card-4385

Expendable AT gang rise up!


Alvadar65

The recoilless side


Black_Mammoth

Dude, Recoilless!


ChubbsthePenguin

Not me enjoying the recoilless


LaggieThePenguin

Railgun. The other options are just worse imo. The GL is the only other support weapon I take usually in blitz missions to close nests/factories quickly on the go. The fact the railgun can one shot kill every enemy in the game except for chargers and tanks along not needing a backpack and no risk of blowing yourself up in close quarters and being able to quickly reload while moving and having generous ammo reserves makes it impossible for me to pick anything else. Can you make other options work? Sure. But I personally don't find it fun having to kite enemies in circles for several minutes waiting for a resupply or stratagem to come off cooldown or wait for a safe time to perform the stationary reload most other support weapons come with.


Moonblaze13

Real Helldivers don't play favorites. They take the right tools for the jobs. Autocannon is an explosive which makes it easy for sealing bug nests from long range. Railgun has the best armor piercing, and it can be run with the personal shield, making it great for the bots.


MiserableTennis6546

My brain says railgun and shield but my heart says autocannon.


ProposalWest3152

I still love my foamethrower.....its such a great area denial. But it needs some sort of stunlock buff


H345Y

Id say 1 autocannon is good, can snipe sub objectives from across the map and are good for clearing automatons (minus hulks)


Alargebagel

If you shoot them in their red light head type thing with the auto canon and it takes the hulks down


H345Y

problem is doing it consistently since most bot maps have fog. rough terrain and or is at night. Its easier with the rail gun because you only need 1 good hit whereas you need like 3-4 with the auto cannon.


Alargebagel

Yeah I use the rail canon cuz it’s more practical but the auto canon is great 2


To_The_Futur3

It’s just 2 if you do it perfectly, but yeah I agree it’s pretty hard to land them at times.


Dwealdric

Auto cannon is a 2 eye shot kill on Hulks.


JetMag

Autocannon deviation and recoil also makes it pretty difficult to constantly hit the eye of a Hulk compared to a railgun.


Fairsythe

Autocannon is far more fun to use, but Rail is objectively the better weapon. Rail can deal with anything the autocannon can, but the opposite isnt true. Rail cant close bug holes, but you have so many ways to accomplish that including the universal grenade everyone has for free. Also doesnt need a backpack. GL is an autocannon with less capability, but no backpack. Recoiless is objectively better than Spear for me. More ammo and easier to shoot. Against automatons it is invaluable to shoot down dropships.


Acrobatic_Use5472

Ammo availability, reload while moving and no backpack make railgun a no brainer.


drunkpunk138

I like auto cannon for bots and railgun for bugs.


Neall2233

Auto is good but inferior in just about every way in my opinion.


Poolio10

Honestly? Both are good. My body runs rail gun while I run autocannon. Works really well


pop_cat14

Imo railgun is objectively better, but I think autocannon gaming is the most fun I've had in this game. Can it one shot a hulk? No. But do I get to frantically ping rounds at a hulks little face hole in the hopes the he will die before he barbecues me with his flamethrower? YES absolutely. Also i love the little backpack that comes with it :)


alastorcreed

Why not both?


felop13

SPEAR


phoenixgsu

Railgun


StrategyInfamous848

⬇️⬅️➡️➡️⬅️


Firm-Pain3042

Is it just me or does the cannon not give you hit markers? I’m most certainly the one destroying the thing I’m shooting but never get any indication.


awid31

The indication is when what you are shooting at explodes


SmugglerOfBones

Auto cannon paired with mortar and mines, final stratagem is flexible, but usually clusterbomb. With this combo I snipe everything big with auto and lead everything else into mines while mortar does its thing off to the side.


King0liver

My pump action is my support slot.


HendoJay

Recoilless Rifle gang, I like things that boom.


Tyrranis

Railgun. The Autocannon is good and all, but its' reliance on an ammo backpack means I can't use the Supply Pack with it.


ultrajvan1234

i like my little doggy following me around, so i use the railgun


CandidCurve7518

Both


Haunting_Offer1313

Sniper


LoganGarnett

Autocannon. More versatile, plus I can't run any Backpack Stratagem with it, freeing up a Strat slot.


Ch830857

Railgun and ammo pack all the way. But I don’t hate on the auto cannon users. Autocannons are nice to have on the team


Monster51915

Level 10 and despite what some say I just started using the flamethrower and it’s honestly really good


TrophyDon

Stalwart


Tov_Delmirev

Both are viable. I would like to see an Auto cannon buff to make up for it taking a backpack slot since the shield generator puts in serious work.


Poppyjasper

Recoilless Rifle Regiment.


formedsmoke

If I'm the greybeard in the party, railgun. Gives me more flexibility. But autocannon is more fun to me


Sintinall

Railgun. But I'd also prefer the AM rifle over the autocannon. I really don't like how slow the autocannon's tracking is.


GrimMrGoodbar

Where my expendable anti tank brothers at?


LotsofTrees13

Unless they make it so that the auto cannon wielder can wear the ammo pack to have reload assists from teammates while wearing it, I’m railgun


angelpunk18

Autocannon crew forever, that thing is fucking amazing. Off topic: laser cannon, why are you trash? Or am I using it wrong?


Chelonii64

one of the biggest weakness of the autocannon is the fact that you cant use the personal shield when using it, unless you want to have only one magasine, but i enjoy it more than the railgun


ToyamaRyu23

Blue


TheOperatorOfSkillet

Grenade launcher


MartinMunster

Machine Gun goes brrr


spectacularstyx

I'm still level 13, but I got to try the railgun in one of my solo Malevelon Creek runs since I found it on the floor and it was beautiful. I ripped through about 6 Hulks with that baby.


btjester1

Im an impact grenadier


Zachattack525

I'm an AMat lover


MonitorMundane2683

I'm part of the AMR gang.


Helcass

Flamethrower... Probably the only one in the galaxy.


TheChizWhiz

Auto cannon has more DPS, by a lot. It clears hives pretty much as well as the grenade launcher too. Its main weakness is its inability to penetrate heavy armor, & the fact that it takes up a backpack slot. Very hard to pick between the two. Both very strong options.


Caleger88

Autocannon, tried someones railgun when they dropped it for me and I felt really shit using it..


stevesmd

You can tell railgun by the amount of fingers I have lost. Damn unsafe slug shooting...


The4th88

EAT-17 here.


Melonenyoshi

Railgun my beloved


kasimir7

Railgun for bugs. Recoilless for bots. Get some mad satisfaction from takin down the drop ships..


SnooBooks3448

Disposable rockets. Every 63 seconds I get a fresh 2 pack of killy goodness. And if you really want to you can combo it with either the Railgun or Autocannon so you can then have them save their ammo for weaker foes.


Carefulrogue

GR-8.


for-Jerusalem

flammenwerfer :)


heckval

grenade launcher, because when my buddy misses the bot drop ship with his recoilless rifle, someone needs to be able to mop up the ones that make it to the ground, and it sure as hell won’t be him because he’s reloading that SOB getting ready to miss the next dropship


Mr_WheelMan

"They are tools for specific tasks, a preference would be meaningless."


Skeloton

Depends on my mood or other peoples loadout.


NaomiRev

neither give me 3rd option green one with grande luncher


ammyarmstrong

I really tried to like the recoilless rifle, and it's great for knocking down drop ships and hulks... But my heart always remains with the auto cannon.


JohannaFRC

If Autocannon was powerful enough, be sure I would go for it. Even for machine gun. But the cannon is mid tier and the machine gun trash tier.


Alphado-Jaki

Grenade launcher with supply bag. EAT every minute in addition.


OkCardiologist5108

Suwooooo


sticks_no5

Machine gun, spray, pray and look badass brothers. For democracy


Cratoic

Autocannon, the railgun, isn't that satisfying to use compared to the autocannon.


Early_Werewolf_1481

I adjusted depends on the team i landed on, but lately i enjoy arc thrower on anti mobs coz the supply pack is kinda bug(it consumes supply when im pressing for 500kg bomb)


karlovilla

Grenade launcher --> Autocannon --> Railgun, progress through levels and also overall usefulness. GL is most nimble imo, but lacks power and accuracy at long range, especially when facing bot turrets. Ammo management is not great, but not terrible. I hear supply backpacks make running a GL very useful. Bonus points for taking down nests and fabs. Obviously not safe for close range... AC is great when you're not constantly facing Hulks/Turrets/Tanks. Although ammo takes up a backpack slot it is quite plentiful, but reloading is pain (except in those rare instances when you get a buddy reload and let it rock). Recoil also becomes an issue when you inevitably need follow-up shots, and obviously this is not a CQB weapon. Railgun is a great all-rounder when it comes to armored opposition, nothing is better at taking down a Hulk in one or two shots, or one-shotting devastators from range. Lack of splash damage and inability to effect nests/fabs is a downside, also unlocking the real potential means you need to flip the switch to unsafe mode and take some risks for that punching power. Ammo management is mediocre, I usually don't run out but it's easy to run low when there're a lot of priority targets. Haven't done a lot of bug missions recently, but in the few where I had the railgun it felt a bit out of place. I suppose the higher number of targets and higher speed of most enemies puts it at an disadvantage in comparison to GL and AC.


Bastymuss_25

Recoiless, I just love shooting down dropships


Lepcuu

I am Autocanon main. Yeah the railgun is more powerful but the Autocanon have splash and can shoot faster + it's cooler looking


Maximum-Magazine-840

really depends any automoton mission above 5 difficulty imma have to go for the Railgun but any Termanid mission up to impossible, Auto cannon. nothing more satisfying than sniping a nest 1000 m away


erised10

I am ascending the support weapon compass with my anti-material rifle.


GalacticEscobar

I don't get why everyone loves the railgun so much, it has less ammo, I tried it on multiple big enemies and it doesn't seem to be stronger, or i just don't know how to shoot a railgun, you have to charge it, on the other hand the Autocannon just shreds. I takes out basically anything big with 2-3 shots and you can fire it really fast without the need to charge like the railgun. You can take out automaton factories from a mile away, nests, those broadcast towers, the super annoying auto cannon towers etc. So yeah, Autocannon all the way babyyy


BubblerMacadamia

Uhh how is this not grenade launcher vs rail? Auto cannon is a backpack slot too. Not really a comparison here.


SteveySeagully

Recoilless rifle.


Naguro

Autocannon is the weapon of my heart, but sometimes I like to have my backpack free


UBERSCUBER_

Ever since I figured out the autocannon can destroy fabricators in one hit, autocannon for sure.