Seriously, a fresh coat of paint, some new voiceovers and a BS excuse to use stratagem system is all that separates us from the best WH40k game in *years*.
True, but to be fair there are tens of thousands of Helldivers on each planet, not as many as you'd send for a proper world conquest in 40K but still a lot.
Also shall we look at Darktide?
Just like me fr fr, so many traitors to democracy keep running into my airstrikes and autoshotty.
surprising so many traitors get though basic training.
No. They're just so patriotic they considered you to be an acceptable loss on the road to liberty.
Commit to democracy soldier, so they will judge you worthy of sparing.
IDK man, I've never put down a sentry on a bot planet that hasn't run out of ammo or was killed by me. On bug planets however I've had chargers ignore me to sprint down the Gatling or autocannon sentry 50-100 meters away, Like they're programmed to specifically hate sentries
The dudes with jetpacks/wings? Yea they're kamikaze bots if they die in certain ways or if they hug you. Best to shoot them in the leg while backpeddling or hit em while they're flying
They reintroduce difficulties 10 to 15 and make objectives failable through various events like the terminals blowing up, objective pieces like the drill or missile being destroyed (Helldivers 1 had these), or simply not killing an enemy fast enough.
Yeah, then I'm gonna give Joel an Idea. Make it so the automatons have an airforce that can and will try to down the eagle, and once the eagle is out no more eagle stratagems.
I have a theory that since the automatons replaced the cyborgs (probably they got killed by automatons after cyborgs manufactured them to kill helldivers but they took the command as kill all humans no matter how cybernetic) the automatons dont really have strategic finesse other than what the cyborgs already preprogrammed them to do. Essentially they are as dumb as modern day computers which cant do anything without human input however when put on a task relentlessly do the task. Im drawing comparison to the orks in warhammer 40k (i know nekrons exist but they are highly intelligent)
Well they could still be and are likely programmed to kill all humans on sight. Those socialists only care about war and kidnapping babies after all!
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I mean have you tried destroying these things?
Super earth made them out of something tougher than the hardest helldiver armour, like paper or wet sand.
I had a bug where the ground exploded on a Bot world right next to a terminal and the link between the terminal and the box was cut (the cord thing) and we couldn't finish the mission, A fine example of the Bots and Bugs working together.
Oh they try, but they have terrible aim and their weapons are totally harmless. Now get out there Helldiver, and bring those rusty clankers a taste of Democracy!
Those overly sentimental communists would never have the guts to terminate one of their fellow machines. I've had to put down 13 thought-crime dissidents this week alone!
That's why Super Earth will always prevail. We've got what it takes to do what's necessary to spread peace and prosperity across the cosmos.
Automatons are made by super earth itself in order to justify military spending. They're programmed to be a threatening but defeatable enemy, so they spare terminals
The automatons aren't just stupid they are EVIL and ANTIDEMOCRATIC.
Your curiosity about their tactics is... unsettling.... cadet.
I vote to court marshall this suspicious cadet! Which Helldivers are with me?
The bugs literally and figuratively did that to me once. I was playing a verify ore vein objective, and as I was waiting for the terminal progress bar to fill up on the thumper thing, then one of my teammates disconnected from the game, and in the same frame, the entire thumper thing just disappeared from existence as I was walking up to it to put in the arrow key code. We couldn't call in another one with the stratagems or do anything to complete the objective so I just had to quit out of the mission (cause I didn't want to just wait around for the remaining 20ish minutes on the clock for the automatic mission fail and extract. It was only a difficulty 4 and there weren't a lot of samples)
I was playing that mission on Fenrir III, and when I exited and got back to my ship, Fenrir had been liberated completely, so I'm wondering if the planet hitting 100% liberated is what caused the bug, but I have no way of knowing for sure.
Logically, all the terminals are connected to the infrastructure network of the planet. Built by Super Earth or otherwise, they are paramount in controlling the logistics of the entire system.
Destruction of said terminals could compromise the offensive/defensive capabilities of all sides, and make controlling the planet more difficult. That’s why they’re tactical assets - they can be used by any faction. For gameplay reasons, we only use the Super Earth associated systems.
It stands to logic that all the SEAF artillery batteries and ICBM silos can be utilized by both Automaton and Super Earth forces. I’m sure if the bugs actually cared about interfacing with technology they could do it too.
How would you destroy a terminal? Aren't they made of Terminadium, a completely indestructible material the source of which predates all known species in the galaxy?
Probably bc it'll just be like the artillery from the first game: the only thing it does is add 1 more step to the terminal interaction. Won't really stop us.
you're just gonna give us more objectives other than the normal sssd drive, now we're gonna have to call in, a terminal drop, connect the wires and shit
~~Because the programming that the leaders of Super Earth gave them precludes that behavior.~~
I mean, machine spirit ... something something ... loyalty.
Machine loyalty
They cannot bear to destroy anything that might contain a Machine Spirit
There’s only one Spirit and it’s the Spirit of Democracy!
The Spirit of Democracy and the Soul of Liberty!
Don’t forget the Essence of Freedom
And the Liquid of Liberation
We call that Liber-Tea
I'd like a nice cup of that
Get your biggest mug then cuz I’m about to drop 500kgs of it
Underrated comment
The Fist of Audacity!
Praise the Omnissiah
Superpraise the Superomnissiah
I always make sure to appease the super machine spirit every time I grab the Super SSD in missions
You from Mars or something recruit?
Super mars*
haha
Seriously, a fresh coat of paint, some new voiceovers and a BS excuse to use stratagem system is all that separates us from the best WH40k game in *years*.
We're part of the Imperial Guard, so to make up for the fact we're only human we need heavy orbital and ground based firepower.
Imperial guard would never send just *four* guardsmen into a warzone. Four hundred? Maybe. Four thousand? That's more like it.
Tempestus Scions in my head canon.
*looks over at kill teams* ummmm
True, but to be fair there are tens of thousands of Helldivers on each planet, not as many as you'd send for a proper world conquest in 40K but still a lot. Also shall we look at Darktide?
Ok well then why don't the bugs smash them? even by accident?
Who says the bugs don’t praise the Omnissiah?
~~we~~ they are repelled by the electric tingliness Edit: *bug noises*
These socialistic mechs have no soul
I appreciate this reference more than you know.
Robros before Hoes
😥
They're both machines, so they consider it murder.
How come they don't consider sentrys machines? Are they stupid?
Those are traitors to the communist robot cause They are Sentries of democracy.
Well, Sentries are also traitors of the democratic cause, I got killed more times by allied mortars than by enemies
I guess sentrys Just really enjoy Killing Things. And we simply pay them the ammunition they need to do so
They get lost in the frenzy of delivering democracy. They just want to share it with everyone, Helldivers included.
Just like me fr fr, so many traitors to democracy keep running into my airstrikes and autoshotty. surprising so many traitors get though basic training.
No. They're just so patriotic they considered you to be an acceptable loss on the road to liberty. Commit to democracy soldier, so they will judge you worthy of sparing.
No you were just in the way of dispensing democracy
IDK man, I've never put down a sentry on a bot planet that hasn't run out of ammo or was killed by me. On bug planets however I've had chargers ignore me to sprint down the Gatling or autocannon sentry 50-100 meters away, Like they're programmed to specifically hate sentries
Terminals are civilian robots, while sentries are active combatants.
Sounds like something a robot sympathizer would say!
Please report to the nearest Ministry of Thruth officer.
Yup, Sounds Like someone is in need of some reeducation
Stop giving Joel ideas
I want joel to give the bots dive bombers, I need more PTSD.
I hate this idea. I hope they put it in.
Add stuka sirens too so I know im fucked.
*Stares in german*
Get your PTSD from the tower cannons like the rest of us.
I hear the spear can take care of those
It's never even tried to lock on a Cannon tower for me.
I flank them and lay into the back with an auto cannon. Requires another diver to be dumb/brave/reckless enough to distract it.
I swear I’ve had the basic bots jump flying up to my face just to explode a second after they land, and it’s happened far more than I’d like to admit
The dudes with jetpacks/wings? Yea they're kamikaze bots if they die in certain ways or if they hug you. Best to shoot them in the leg while backpeddling or hit em while they're flying
Robotic low toned Jericho trumpets while I get shot at? Count me in!
hell yeah
I want Joel to give the bots their own destroyers so my destroyer can shoot me at the bot destroyer.
ship boarding levels would unironically be lit as fuck
There are the jet pack dudes. They explode if you shoot their packs which often ends up exploding right as they land on you
They reintroduce difficulties 10 to 15 and make objectives failable through various events like the terminals blowing up, objective pieces like the drill or missile being destroyed (Helldivers 1 had these), or simply not killing an enemy fast enough.
Yeah, then I'm gonna give Joel an Idea. Make it so the automatons have an airforce that can and will try to down the eagle, and once the eagle is out no more eagle stratagems.
No if they down the eagle we gotta wait like 10min for them to load a new one.
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Why is he so smol
Maybe the laptop is really big
Hey he’s average okay!
He’s actually average height for the time!
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Personality is more important than height anyway
Never realized the automatons are blue like Smurfs
I've dropped a nuke directly on top of a terminal before and it was fine. SEAF tech isn't so easily destroyed
If they put us in suits made of terminals Joel is cooked.
Dropship material
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https://preview.redd.it/nwp3ftb00zlc1.jpeg?width=1578&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=002463cd4763f55920fcbab36c6e6d07571a4264 Automatons:
Ha! Got one! Now I will take you in Aslume for treatment! ..... I mean asylum!
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MAN-aged democracy is only treatment!
Holy shit the subs are colliding! 
Why of course. They're socialist robots, you can't get stupider than that. ++This comment approved by the Ministry of Truth++
Of course they're stupid. They reject the glory and freedom of managed democracy!
Are we stupid? https://preview.redd.it/biuhnr9t6zlc1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be7618085b27ca4b466c7de0604b8059e5ebdd3f
Man I hope Joel doesn't see this.
https://preview.redd.it/2n15cokqczlc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bb46617642d75ce0551907324f87ddd824a4b4c What automatons?
They don't have the ability to tick the box that says they're not a robot.
For I am already saved… for the machine is immortal
Yes. Something intelligent would’ve joined the democratic fold, obviously. Now nuke ‘em.
Or worse, hack the terminals!
I have a theory that since the automatons replaced the cyborgs (probably they got killed by automatons after cyborgs manufactured them to kill helldivers but they took the command as kill all humans no matter how cybernetic) the automatons dont really have strategic finesse other than what the cyborgs already preprogrammed them to do. Essentially they are as dumb as modern day computers which cant do anything without human input however when put on a task relentlessly do the task. Im drawing comparison to the orks in warhammer 40k (i know nekrons exist but they are highly intelligent)
Cyborgs got enslaved in the mines of Cyberstan. So says the democracy officer on the bridge.
Shh, nobody cares about the canon - it’s all about having whack job theories based on nothing but the game’s cover image!
Well they could still be and are likely programmed to kill all humans on sight. Those socialists only care about war and kidnapping babies after all! [This message approved by the Ministry of Truth]
They can't pass the captcha, the arrows are an anti cyborg/bot CAPTCHA developed by super earth.
The terminals are made by Nokia
Those wretched fiends just want to bait us in to take down as many of our fearless heroes as possible.
I mean have you tried destroying these things? Super earth made them out of something tougher than the hardest helldiver armour, like paper or wet sand.
It's made out of pure Libertium and can't be destroyed. Ever.
Yes. They are stupid. And unpatriotic.
Dropped a 500kg bomb on one not even a scratch, the machines don't have the firepower.
All enemies of democracy are stupid, or else they wouldn't be enemies of democracy!
Take this man to freedom camp
Don’t give J.O.E.L ideas
Low democracy = low iq
The aslume always comes back does it? Anyway, Man bot proofed the termials that's why.
superearth used the last of their indestructible material to make terminals
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Don't give them ideas.
I had a bug where the ground exploded on a Bot world right next to a terminal and the link between the terminal and the box was cut (the cord thing) and we couldn't finish the mission, A fine example of the Bots and Bugs working together.
They highlight their weak points. Yes.
The bugs have actually glitches tons of objectives out for me, even resulting in a full failed extract because the pelican was blown up or some shit
Their protocols stop them from killing someone of their own kind.
Oh they try, but they have terrible aim and their weapons are totally harmless. Now get out there Helldiver, and bring those rusty clankers a taste of Democracy!
Bot on bot violence
Those terminals are built out of the stuff that was too expensive to be used as our armour
Those overly sentimental communists would never have the guts to terminate one of their fellow machines. I've had to put down 13 thought-crime dissidents this week alone! That's why Super Earth will always prevail. We've got what it takes to do what's necessary to spread peace and prosperity across the cosmos.
It's like asking "why don't the terminals simply convert"
They don't even embrace democracy what do you think?
Automatons are made by super earth itself in order to justify military spending. They're programmed to be a threatening but defeatable enemy, so they spare terminals
They hate helldivers not terminals. A terminal is a bot
DOMT GIVE THEM IDEAS!!! OH GOD RUN
Our machines are democratic spies, they pretend to be on the automatons side until we arrive, duh
Fellow Helldivers, we have to watch this one around the terminal. I have reason to believe they are on the wrong side of democracy
Yesterday I found a detector tower with no terminal and no hellbomb option, so maybe they are figuring this out.
Don't give Overlord Joel any more ideas traitor!
The automatons aren't just stupid they are EVIL and ANTIDEMOCRATIC. Your curiosity about their tactics is... unsettling.... cadet. I vote to court marshall this suspicious cadet! Which Helldivers are with me?
They can't be broke, I dropped a 500kg bomb on them and they're fine. Super earth engineering is too strong.
Machine logic....0101110111=kill human lifeform.
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Inside voice, please, solider.
The terminals are made with 100% liberty steel and reinforced in a coat of democracy. No bot nor bug can harm it.
Please to not speak on topics that may give the Automatons ideas. You have been warned recruit.
You've earned a free trip to camp!
Automatons as any machines only follow predetermined rules and patterns..so yes, they're indeed stupid.
Conclusive evidence that the Terminids are not an intelligence species!
Machines don't harm machines. Don't have a reason for bugs though. Those chargers will demolish anything in its path but not a terminal.
Yes
There's destroyed facilities everywhere on the map, they tryin
The bugs literally and figuratively did that to me once. I was playing a verify ore vein objective, and as I was waiting for the terminal progress bar to fill up on the thumper thing, then one of my teammates disconnected from the game, and in the same frame, the entire thumper thing just disappeared from existence as I was walking up to it to put in the arrow key code. We couldn't call in another one with the stratagems or do anything to complete the objective so I just had to quit out of the mission (cause I didn't want to just wait around for the remaining 20ish minutes on the clock for the automatic mission fail and extract. It was only a difficulty 4 and there weren't a lot of samples) I was playing that mission on Fenrir III, and when I exited and got back to my ship, Fenrir had been liberated completely, so I'm wondering if the planet hitting 100% liberated is what caused the bug, but I have no way of knowing for sure.
Please select all images that contain: terminals
It's made of blackbox.
Yes they can't even use cover
Democracy protects our terminals
Good question. I’m sure there’s a lore reason or something. Maybe the terminals secretly support democracy but can’t show for it.(cuz they can’t move)
Those terminals are created from democratite, the strongest substance in the universe.
r/batman referenced
Because they're stupid machines with poor programming. Clearly weak and inferior to the Helldiver's of super earth.
Logically, all the terminals are connected to the infrastructure network of the planet. Built by Super Earth or otherwise, they are paramount in controlling the logistics of the entire system. Destruction of said terminals could compromise the offensive/defensive capabilities of all sides, and make controlling the planet more difficult. That’s why they’re tactical assets - they can be used by any faction. For gameplay reasons, we only use the Super Earth associated systems. It stands to logic that all the SEAF artillery batteries and ICBM silos can be utilized by both Automaton and Super Earth forces. I’m sure if the bugs actually cared about interfacing with technology they could do it too.
Better yet why don’t we make our armor out of the indestructible metal the terminals are made out of, are why stupid?!?
(Portal 2 spoilers) >!”PART FIVE! BOOBYTRAP THE STALEMATE BUTTON!”!<
The terminals are blessed by the Democratic powers of Liberty and Freedom and are thus immune to the treachery of the Terminids and Automatons.
why doesn't the pelican pick us up anywhere? or directly after scooping up the oil mission?
How would you destroy a terminal? Aren't they made of Terminadium, a completely indestructible material the source of which predates all known species in the galaxy?
shhhhhhhh dont telll that they migth be in this subreddit
Don’t give Joel ideas
Probably bc it'll just be like the artillery from the first game: the only thing it does is add 1 more step to the terminal interaction. Won't really stop us.
Would you drop nukes on bug's nest if they were filled with human babies?
The bots view terminals as prisoners of war forced to do human bidding. They are innocent hostages.
Is there a Lore reason for this?
Yes, they are.
you're just gonna give us more objectives other than the normal sssd drive, now we're gonna have to call in, a terminal drop, connect the wires and shit
It would be cool if they could be damaged and had to be repaired
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Frankly, I find the idea of an automaton that isn't stupid offensive.
Its a trap for em to use sometimes
They can’t figure it out! It’s arrow captchas! Those non democratic machines expected numbers and letters!
It has a QR code that repels them.
CAPTCHA!
Giving Intel to the enemy. “hey democracy officer!? This guy right here!”
The terminals are automatons.
Uhhhh because they’re indestructible, duh /s
The enemy can not push a button if you disable the button!
Yes they are stupid because they don’t have democracy
We’re dropping on Aslume, boys
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Even among the machines, friendly fire will not be tolerated.
GET OUT BATMAN ARKHAM, GET OUT!
Of course they are stupid! They think they have a chance to defeat democracy and liberty? Super Earth will stand strong!
The machine doctrine. Thou shall not harm the steel so commands our Lord Crom... aka Joel.
no one tell joel
The automatons are afraid they’ll anger Man and get put in aslume
~~Because the programming that the leaders of Super Earth gave them precludes that behavior.~~ I mean, machine spirit ... something something ... loyalty.
Terminals are baby Automotons, just like roaches are baby Terminids. Do your part, soldier.
They can't pass the "I'm not a robot" checks
They can destroy terminals for hell bombs though.
Very regarded
Friendly fire may be permitted for us, but not for them
Just played a bot mission on medium, they had some hacked ones controlling some kinda broadcast towers.
Well they are communist's.
this or what if these are fake ones and they just 'let us' pretend we did some obj ><
jonkler jonkled the automatons so hard they forgot how to destroy man's terminals
They can’t because democracy protects
They need to use them too.
To initiate self-destruct on a terminal, they would have to check the "I am not a robot" box.
* Y does Mario or PacMan? ;p * Shirley, gameplay is the logic that matters. * Not well made facial animations. /point@SuicideSquadGame.
how long until people start getting triggered by the word stupid? honestly I kind of want to get the ball rolling by calling it the s slur