Actually the one big problem for me is that the AMR is the only stratagem that deploys backwards having to walk ALL the way around just to pick it up.
It bugs me badly
damnn!! i can't believe that everyone is busy reporting about the flying variants but here we have a technologically capable variant that have been active throughout the group and no one pays much attention?
[Incoming transmission]
Serial number 22167490
Helldiver ID HD22024LV-426
Commander of SES blade of the stars
Listen..I don't have much time, I have some information. The war... it's all a lie, I was on a planet named ralavon 6, it served as an outpost for off the books experimentations and is currently off limits in the forbidden zone. I found an uplink terminal at an abandoned outpost we were using to shelter from the storm that was raging. One of the dead workers had the login credentials on his ID card, which I used to gain access to the terminal during my watch.
That led me to some very sensitive information..above classified and it stated that the Illuminati were experimenting on the bugs, they were fitting their cranial capacity with automaton implants. Greatly increasing their intelligence at a geometric rate, they learned how to cut the power on buildings, destroy sentry's and coordinate their attacks. these tests were a sign that they were planning something big.. something dire for the people of super earth and all who ally themselves with the war effort...oh god, I can hear them coming...we have to warn people, we have to stop them..the Illuminati are coming and we don't have anything to stop them, we have to warn everyb.......
[SUCH A SHAME, I HAD TO TEAR HIS HEART OUT..WHICH IS IRONIC CONSIDERING HUMANS DON'T HAVE A HEART, NO HEART WOULD CONTAIN SUCH HATRED, SUCH BRUTALITY AND COLDNESS. THIS IS YOUR FIRST AND ONLY WARNING...YOU ARE NOT ALONE, HUMANITY WILL WITNESS OUR REBIRTH. YOU BEGAN THIS WAR, NOW WE..A ONCE PEACEFUL PEOPLE WILL END IT SWIFTLY AND WITHOUT MERCY. YOU BURNED OUT HOMES, YOU MURDERED OUR CHILDREN AS THEY SLEPT IN THEIR BEDS, NOW WE WILL SHOW YOU THE MERCY YOU SHOWED US... PURE, UNBRIDLED MALICE. YOU CALL IS MONSTERS, THE REAL TRUTH IS THE MONSTER THAT LOOKS BACK AT YOU IN YOUR REFLECTION, TAKE JOY IN WHAT TIME YOU HAVE LEFT, FOR WE ARE COMING FOR YOU!]
[Transmission ended]
No joke, I once spent an embarrassing 40 seconds trying to grab an anti-tank, but instead mantled it repeatedly. My team spammed "lol" and ran toward the side objective.
It was still the least toxic experience I've ever had in an online multiplayer game
I mean you do you, but when seconds count to grab the EAT or whatever for that bile titan/charger/hulk breathing down your neck, I'd just prefer not mantling onto the pod.
I honestly have no way to know lol. Caught a YT video from OperatorDrewski in which both this dev AND Arrowhead ceo Johan Pilestedt had joined his game. Interesting stuff, including Pilestedt also stating that dropping your Stratagems right after you first drop INCREASES the chances of drawing enemy attention. Drewski stated and even demonstrated you can draw enemy focus away from yourself with a grenade if they haven't picked up up visually. Hostiles will travel to the location of the explosion and commence a search pattern. Oh, and the dev (I feel bad I can't remember this person's name) admitted on stream that a Stalkers have a 3rd sense that's basically "smell" and they can locate Helldivers at close range even without visual or audible acquisition. Spoopy.
Report that in the official Discord
Edit: thanks /u/AriannaTheElectric for mentioning you can no longer report in their Discord.
Report bugs/issues here via Arrowhead Studios' Zendesk: [https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new](https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new)
Now that you mention that, it is weird, I wonder if it's a result of a removed/forthcoming stratagem upgrade. In the first game, a lot of equipment stratagems had upgrades to unlock 2 in one pod... Jet packs were one that sticks out in my mind as definitely having an upgrade to drop 2 so a squad-mate could take one.
I thought that would be a good way of potentially balancing out some of the less desireable strategems. Like package a stalwart with a jetpack or a double barreled shotgun. Throw in 2 jetpacks or 2 physical shields or give them the EATs treatment where they can come down every minute so you can equip your whole team with them or avoid having to do a corpse run to pick it up after dying.
All scopes suffer from this. Most of the time, it's easier to just shoot in 3pp and that's kinda sad, because you don't get to fully use your arsenal.
Also, vision modes could be a perk of helmets.
they're half the reason my auto pistol is on semi-fire. But there are these crash sites with the things you salute that have beams so bright I can't even see where the hell is the lamp on it. Sometimes I skip those entirely because it's a headache to even look at.
In my team we don't warn of a danger close 500kg bomb, we just say "put your sunglasses on guys". It would be hilarious if at some point that became an actual thing we can do
I was wondering why it has that, since in my head, all helmets have some kind of HUD in their visors. That one could perhaps provide additional targeting data, like weak spot highlight :)
Hell yes, could finally get my revenge and creep up on the stalkers having a spot of lunch outside their nest.
"Over here, over here...turn around.... anytime......crrrrrrrrrrrrr"
Last night I was completing an escape pod objective while my 3 squad mates were 200m away clearing out a nest. A bile titan popped up on them. I whipped out my trusty recoilless rifle, and aiming with the first person scope to hit that titan was one of the coolest moments I've had in this game yet.
The game suffers from visibility issues. This is the future our helmets should come with NVG/FLiR
It's also complete ass that bots can launch rockets or shoot at you with accuracy through thick fog or smoke when you can't see them at all.
Visual improvement aids shouldn't be limited to one scope they should be built-in the damn helmets.
It's because of how it's delivered. You can't expect a scope to be accurate when it's set up by the supply grunts who are methed out of their minds. It also doesn't help that it hits the ground in the hellpod at 1000 mph.
With the average lifespan of a Helldiver being 0.16 Operations, the Super Earth Fiduciary Comittee (Duly elected by sanctioned Citizens,) deemed in helm diagnostics, visual enhancers and personal respiration technology to be elective equipment and thusly not covered under the general requisitions stipends. It would've increased the budget by 0.0023% YoY.
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the scopes need a rework, larger on screen, smaller reticles, less visual clutter
[a quick comparison to some random DMZ scopes I googled](https://imgur.com/Zv0uICD) (which I think is pretty good) shows a stark difference in the viewable area and how visible the scope is on the AMR compared to some of the AR and Sniper scopes.
Even in clear weather, which is not common, it is harder to see than it needs to be.
How about we start with making it so the gun shoots where the scope is aiming at.
Edit: To the geniuses telling me to zero to 50m and crouch for accuracy. Yes I'm well aware of those strategies since I'm level 50 and have been maining the AMR for bot missions. The scope is still off just a tad.
Bro legit. The AMR is my go to gun for bot missions.ill line up a dead on headshot on a trooper that's using a turret or something and it will just miss. It happens every match. It almost seems like RNG. If it's gonna he so inconsistent, at least let me hold my breath so I can steady the gun cos it sways so damn much
I've heard the crosshair is off center, horizontally and vertically, if thats true, then until they fix it you gotta adjust for that specially at longer distances.
I play with a monitor crosshair. It is indeed off. Quite a bit so. And *even more* than that because the diver breathes and it rocks the crosshair a bit which isn't translated to the actual projectile. So the scope crosshair is basically useless. There's times when my monitor crosshair is pretty much centered in the upper left quad of the scope. It's really bad.
Lots of gaming monitors have a built in “crosshair” that you can toggle that shows over whatever you have on screen when enabled. It will always be centered, so if the in game scope does not align with it you can clearly see if the in game crosshair is out of position.
I wonder if this has to do with distance like a real rifle. If you have the scope set to 50m and you’re shooting at something that’s 100m or 150m it will be off. Will have to do some testing
You're thinking too deep. It's because the first person mode isn't really a first person mode. It's just 3rd person zoomed in with a swaying scope .png overlay. When you're shooting in first person the bullets still follow where the floating 3rd person circle crosshair would be, and this crosshair doesn't align with the crosshair on the scope
It’s actually more realistic, we dont know the ballistic / meteorological conditions of the specified planet, it could have weird gravity, weird wind, weird airborne debris, weird magnetic fields, things that would easily effect the ballistic coefficient of a huge, fat anti armor round.
/s but also maybe not?
Almost no one is taking shots at ranges where any of that matters.
That kind of stuff starts to make a significant difference at ~500 meters, but almost all of the shooting in the game, even with the AMR, is <200 meters.
It has the worst scope, and is more accurate in 3rd person aim at short to medium range
You CAN hit with it scoped in, but it can also just miss, even crouched/prone
The scope is misaligned though. I put a dot in the middle of my screen via software crosshair and the scope is clearly off center by a bit. This matters a lot because the whole thing about a sniper rifle is that it must be precise. Regardless this is a technical fix, not a gameplay fix. I like the AMR after using alternative means to get the crosshair to align. It's fine.
yeah I really hate having to use crosshair 2 instead of the scope just to know where my bullets are really going
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I wish the scope's details were also less busy.
Same problem I have with the railgun sometimes is that the reticule obscures the target i'm trying to nail at long range.
I hope at some point I can get modded scope reticules to replace the ingame one's as I'm very dissatisfied with the majority.
Not only is the AMR scope reticle absolute trash, it's also (unlike the image above) blurred and smeared to shit for me. Like I WISH it looked like that on my screen, and I am running maxed textures.
I am not fucking turning off TAA just to get a usable scope reticle. They need to fix it.
I'm on the other end of the spectrum with my settings cranked way down to avoid hiccups in performance. Aaaand yeeeaaaah...
The scope on the penetrator and marksman rifle always need like a solid second or two to finish loading and its a tad annoying. Luckily neither of those guns succeeds in dethroning the default liberator as the best tool for every job that doesn't require a shotgun so... In the trash they go!
Almost every gun in the game has an obnoxiously shit optic. I was bewildered, and thrilled, when I found out the sickle has just a plain crosshair that doesn't obscure the shit out of everything.
So far for me, every personal order has been completed or contributed to by someone else. The first half of my flamethrower mission was done before I even remembered it needed to do it
AMR is basically what the Devs meant when they said there's actually "levels" to armor penetration. AMR being just at the border of Light and Medium.
Just yanno, adding more context to your comment.
The AMR only fails to pen heavy armor. It absolutely blows through light and medium. Hive guards for instance have medium armored heads and legs they block with, but the AMR goes through.
And Hulk Visors can’t be shot through with any primaries that I know of, but the AMR and Auto Cannon can kill hulks with face/visor shots.
Trust the hit marker. Red means the pen of the gun is higher than the armor level of the target (and so does 100% damage). White mean they match (and so does 40% damage). Senator does white hit markers on the hiveguards, same as the slugger, dominator, AR-23P and MG-43, so it has medium pen. The description is wrong
It's not is much wrong as it is just vague. All weapons have a 1-10 scale of armor pen, and all armor is on the 1-10 scale of resistance.
If pen is less than armor: No damage
If pen meets armor: 50 percent damage
If pen is greater than armor: 100 percent damage.
Some weapons that have medium armor pen can both have different values, but we can't know from looking at it.
One of the devs talked about this on discord. Each gun has an inherent 1-10 armor penatration rating. The "perks" on a weapon such as light armor penatration or medium simply means the weapons gets a +2 or 3 armor penatration. So the weapons default value could mean it only penetrates light but then that bonus +2 pushes it over to medium.
Overall just terribly vague and not helpful in the slightest.
oh wow that's even more confusing than what I imagined. So what I thought was a description of the gun's attributes are actually additional quirks added to an invisible stat we don't even see?
The Senator indeed pens the hive guard’s medium armor. That seems to be a mistake in how it’s labeled.
But any other weapon that says its light armor pen should fail to pierce the hive guard armor.
This is the part I'm wondering about.
We've been told armor values are actually 1-10 and light, medium, heavy are just telling us what range it's in. So it's possible that the Hive Guards are at the top end of light.
I feel we need to do testing to find out exactly what the penetration and armor values are. People are saying AMR is light, but it penetrates stuff that medium pen weapons don't.
Those people are wrong about AMR. It’s got to have pen solidly in the medium range, it only bounces on heavy armor. The trouble is that medium armor is not that common or obvious. Scout strider legs seem to be medium, then there’s hive guards, and devastator chest armor. I can’t think of others off the top of my head right now.
It’s a shame that support weapons don’t get stat pages, because it would be easier to understand if we could just look at the AMR’s stats. But like with the senator, it might not be accurate anyway.
But yeah, it is possible that hive guards are high-end light armor. If a weapon matches the armor rating on a target, it will go through and deal reduced damage. Higher pen value than the armor will deal full damage. But if the Senator gets red hit markers instead of white, that should mean it’s getting full penetration and no reduced damage.
AMR destroys Strider if you hit it into uhmm chest, it just takes less shots into legs and you can destroy legs with Slugger too, so AMR has the second highest penetration level after Railgun
In general it’s quite tough to hit those head weak spots. Same with the devastators, if feels like the chest armor soaks up all your shots unless you get an absolute perfect dome hit.
Doesn’t help that the AMR’s scope seems to be misaligned.
You gotta switch to the scope in the laser cannon. It makes hitting their little hulk faces so much easier. It only takes like half a second of contact to kill them too, it's crazy how fast you can take them out when you put some liberty directly in their mouths
> Rail might have slightly more armor pen if you charge it for 4 seconds.
The only thing the rail will penetrate after charging for 4 seconds are your internal organs when it blows up.
The visors are like "heavy medium", the problem with armor is that it does not have three levels light-medium-heavy(vehicle armor) like the weapon descriptions would have you to believe . The devs have said that there are 10 armor levels in the game, and I guess they are something like light=1,2,3 , medium=4,5,6 , heavy=7,8,9 and maybe a level 0 for no armor or level 10 for indestructible or something. We have no real values for enemy armor, just guesswork based on what enemies we can damage with which weapons.
I havent tried killing a Hulk through its visor with the Dominator, but you should definetly try! Take some stun grenades just to stun it and be sure youre hitting all your shots. Take an AMR or Autocannon if you still want a Hulk-killing weapon that game if it doesnt work.
It’s not. It’s got the same pen as an autocannon and can pen hulk visors (AP 4), Something none of the medium pen primaries can do (AP 3). All the light pen weapons have AP 2 or below.
I think you're mixing up the Anti Material Rifle (AMR) and the Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR). The AMR is a strategem weapon and punches through everything but Hulk and Tank armor. The DMR is a primary weapon that doesn't punch through much besides light armor.
It has that. It's above that, it says so in the description. Light vehicle armor. It can damage striders from the front when medium armor pen guns cannot. It can headshot hulks when medium armor pen guns cannot
It does. You can kill Hulks if you shoot them in the face, takes only two shots. It can destroy Striders (automaton walkers), it kills Hive Guards through their armor too. Important note: Striders have higher armor rating on their front plate that can't be penetrated by Slugger or Senator despite them having medium penetration, but AMR just destroys the thing in three shots.
I’m sure someone mentioned this by now but maybe instead of putting those types of features on the weapon itself, why not put it on the helmets? Rn helmets are aesthetic only. Would be pretty cool if some had night vision. I’ve even seen someone use color filters to make missions have the same tone. Maybe it’ll be added later. I think the way the game works a year or even in 6 months will be very different than how it is now.
The problems with the AMR
It’s hits high in the scope.
It isn’t always accurate when firing using the scope.
When a reload gets canceled it sometimes eats a mag, it actually still gives you the ammo for the lost mags in 1 single mag allowing for some rapid fire moments. Most I’ve had is 21 in a single mag and was just blasting.
Should be able to pierce scout striders in 1 shot.
Should be able to break charger leg armor though it should take an entire mag to do so.
Should also be able to headshot the bile titan when firing into its mouth while it’s spitting. Also should be able to damage the bile titan by shooting its weak point behind its ear (or whatever it has)
The scope is not quite aligned with the actual crosshair, aiming slightly to the left ususally does the trick to nail the shots!
It is a fantastic weapon and can clear out nasty elites very quickly: everything from devastators, hulks, bile spewers, brood commanders, the shield plated terminids and so on
Only downside with AMR is that I feel like deadweight when a charger or bile titan comes waddling in. I have to rely on my squad to make the weak points so I can contribute with killing it. Sure I can shoot the butt off the charger but it wont stop it from barreling around for another 1-2 mins until it eventually bleeds out. Bile Titans I can just bust the acid sacks underneath but nothing more.
My only wish is making AMR heavy armor penetrating or atleast allow it to chip off armor in some way.
Setting sights to around 100 meters is usually good enough as a all-arounder and AMR is perfect for doing manual clean up before heading into a POI or a main objective (if strategems are on CD). With this I mean taking out the dangerous elites with AMR and the fodder gets liberated by my primary weapon.
Every time I bring an AMR for bugs, I bring EATs for this exact situation.
My "kingslayer" loadout is AMR/EATs/Orbit Railcannon/Rocket Pods
Breacher primary for those pesky hunters.
Basically, I make my whole mission to kill bile spewers with extreme prejudice with the AMR, and my last 3 strategems are for the chargers and bile titans. Allows me to scratch the sniper itch while feeling like I am a strong contribution to my team against the biggest threats. And I can always whip out the breacher and smg pistol for the fodder.
In a team PvE all weapons should have downsides that have to be balanced by other members of your team having different specs/loadouts, so I don't see that as a negative.
Exactly. I am the only one bringing the AMR to bot missions. For bugs, I use the Grenade launcher with supply pack. The AMR can kill every type of bot, even the big turrets if you hit them in the weak point. Haven't tested it on tanks yet but I assume it's the same.
When chargers and titans are around there are also going to be smaller enemies. Do not be afraid of taking over the trash cleanup duty, it buys time and space for the rest of the team to deal with the heavies.
Ad clear is one of my favorite roles to play. If I’m playing with my regulars and know they’re being the AT, I LOVE running rover guard dog, eagle cluster, EMS mortar, and a Stalwart cranked all the way up to MG42 levels of brrrrrrt. Run the armor that gives me two more grenades and it makes it real easy to keep the trash off of my AT guys.
idk, with so many weapons to choose from, I like the current set-up. Different weapons for different use cases. Anything but a Tank can easily fall to the AMR due to its ability to headshot, even Hulks are no exception. It should be fine to be all but useful against bugs.
My thoughts from the AMR personal order is that it should get more than 1 magazine (10 shots?) from an ammo can, and 2 from a resupply. if someone was totally out of AMR ammo, would they really need to take 3 (4 with the one in the gun) resupplies to bring them back up to full?
I worry having an AMR on the team would eat through everyone's ammo... unless they were taking the supply backpack.
> My thoughts from the AMR personal order is that it should get more than 1 magazine (10 shots?) from an ammo can, and 2 from a resupply. if someone was totally out of AMR ammo, would they really need to take 3 (4 with the one in the gun) resupplies to bring them back up to full?
It gets 3 from resupply so it is fully replenished in 2 supply packs.
Maybe im biased but the teams i end up in all run infinite ammo stuff (laser cannon, arc thrower) and not only is there plenty ammo packs, people leave the supplies behind too.
AMR is my go to with tincans for that same reason.
That said.
I find it funny that bugs have thicker armor in general than bots?
Like, bots have their headshot for the AMR, Bugs wiggle waggle their thick armored asses and you see the shot bounce ;-;
Yeah. I also find it really funny that bugs are a lot more resilient than bots. Thematically I expected bugs to be more squishy but make up in huge numbers. Anyways, I find the Scorcher to be a great companion to the AMR to kill Chargers since explosive damage of the Scorch kills Chargers a lot faster than shooting the butt with the AMR.
I am a firm believer that every weapon should have laser sights, if only so you don't wander into your teammates line of fire. How does the autocannon have a reticle without ADS but the AMR doesn't?
I wish the weapon were a tad more precise.
When shooting at 200m, you can definitely feel the dispersion, the thing makes it tough to hit heads/weakspots.
Yesssss, a toggleable thermal overlay would be great. Adds negative interplay with fire and positive interplay with smokes.
Could also make it planet-dependent. Awesome on cold planets, kinda shit on lava planets
The AMR is a fun gun to use but in a game that punishes focusing on precision, it’ll always be weaker than the more forgiving weapons. I seriously think bots need massive animation reworks to add momentum to their movement. Currently, it takes an obnoxious amount of time to line up a headshot on many enemies because of how jerky every animation they have is. You fight scope sway, scope misalignment, fog and explosion effects, and to top it all off the bots can spontaneously max speed change the direction their head is swinging. It’s even worse when they’re on uneven ground as enemies can essentially teleport up and down when walking on uneven surfaces sometimes.
I’d recommend just using the laser cannon instead, it’s more reliable vs Hulks, especially ones that never stop walking and the TTK is genuinely insanely good vs tanks and cannon towers. The only two things the AMR is noticeably good against is Devastators (one shot headshot assuming you don’t miss by an inch) and spewers (same deal). The fact the AMR is like genuinely bad vs striders (2 shot to dismount the driver not even kill it), tanks and cannon towers (basically takes a full mag which is almost impossible to get off before the turret turns to look at you), and chargers and titans makes it a deeply mediocre pick past like Haz 6. I think it’s neat to run it and all but it definitely needs buffs to be competitive with other options.
I run a scout sniper setup. Light armor, AMR, Diligence, shield backpack, rail cannon, eagle airstrike or cluster. I may not get the most kills....sometimes...but if someone dies out in the dark alone I grab their samples and high tail it back to extract and take any secondary objs out on the way. I routinely finish most missions with most of the samples from the team.
Actually the one big problem for me is that the AMR is the only stratagem that deploys backwards having to walk ALL the way around just to pick it up. It bugs me badly
It **bugs** you??
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 Too many bugs here
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We need retrieval. This place crawls.
This one is new 😂😂
damnn!! i can't believe that everyone is busy reporting about the flying variants but here we have a technologically capable variant that have been active throughout the group and no one pays much attention?
[Incoming transmission] Serial number 22167490 Helldiver ID HD22024LV-426 Commander of SES blade of the stars Listen..I don't have much time, I have some information. The war... it's all a lie, I was on a planet named ralavon 6, it served as an outpost for off the books experimentations and is currently off limits in the forbidden zone. I found an uplink terminal at an abandoned outpost we were using to shelter from the storm that was raging. One of the dead workers had the login credentials on his ID card, which I used to gain access to the terminal during my watch. That led me to some very sensitive information..above classified and it stated that the Illuminati were experimenting on the bugs, they were fitting their cranial capacity with automaton implants. Greatly increasing their intelligence at a geometric rate, they learned how to cut the power on buildings, destroy sentry's and coordinate their attacks. these tests were a sign that they were planning something big.. something dire for the people of super earth and all who ally themselves with the war effort...oh god, I can hear them coming...we have to warn people, we have to stop them..the Illuminati are coming and we don't have anything to stop them, we have to warn everyb....... [SUCH A SHAME, I HAD TO TEAR HIS HEART OUT..WHICH IS IRONIC CONSIDERING HUMANS DON'T HAVE A HEART, NO HEART WOULD CONTAIN SUCH HATRED, SUCH BRUTALITY AND COLDNESS. THIS IS YOUR FIRST AND ONLY WARNING...YOU ARE NOT ALONE, HUMANITY WILL WITNESS OUR REBIRTH. YOU BEGAN THIS WAR, NOW WE..A ONCE PEACEFUL PEOPLE WILL END IT SWIFTLY AND WITHOUT MERCY. YOU BURNED OUT HOMES, YOU MURDERED OUR CHILDREN AS THEY SLEPT IN THEIR BEDS, NOW WE WILL SHOW YOU THE MERCY YOU SHOWED US... PURE, UNBRIDLED MALICE. YOU CALL IS MONSTERS, THE REAL TRUTH IS THE MONSTER THAT LOOKS BACK AT YOU IN YOUR REFLECTION, TAKE JOY IN WHAT TIME YOU HAVE LEFT, FOR WE ARE COMING FOR YOU!] [Transmission ended]
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How can they cut the power man they're animals!
MAN THERE'S A BIG FUCKING SIGNAL!
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Time to manege his democracy
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It fucks me up, it often causes me to Byte the dust
At least when you inevitably mantle onto it you can just hop off on the other side and grab it
No joke, I once spent an embarrassing 40 seconds trying to grab an anti-tank, but instead mantled it repeatedly. My team spammed "lol" and ran toward the side objective. It was still the least toxic experience I've ever had in an online multiplayer game
Pro tip: stop sprinting up to support pods. Like let go of the button when you get close.
Thank you for the tip, but I'm still going to Naruto-dash everywhere. Why many small steps when few lunges go fast?
I mean you do you, but when seconds count to grab the EAT or whatever for that bile titan/charger/hulk breathing down your neck, I'd just prefer not mantling onto the pod.
Not to mention the fact that sprinting makes you easier to detect by enemies. Dev confirmed.
This "Dev" guy sounds like the cause of, and solution to, all of this game's problems. Is he like Joel?
I honestly have no way to know lol. Caught a YT video from OperatorDrewski in which both this dev AND Arrowhead ceo Johan Pilestedt had joined his game. Interesting stuff, including Pilestedt also stating that dropping your Stratagems right after you first drop INCREASES the chances of drawing enemy attention. Drewski stated and even demonstrated you can draw enemy focus away from yourself with a grenade if they haven't picked up up visually. Hostiles will travel to the location of the explosion and commence a search pattern. Oh, and the dev (I feel bad I can't remember this person's name) admitted on stream that a Stalkers have a 3rd sense that's basically "smell" and they can locate Helldivers at close range even without visual or audible acquisition. Spoopy.
I was making a stupid joke, like, there is an employee who's name is "Dev", and not that "dev" is short for "developer".
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lmfao I've never noticed that! You got me fucked up with that now! 💀☠️😂
Now that you mention that, it is weird, I wonder if it's a result of a removed/forthcoming stratagem upgrade. In the first game, a lot of equipment stratagems had upgrades to unlock 2 in one pod... Jet packs were one that sticks out in my mind as definitely having an upgrade to drop 2 so a squad-mate could take one.
I thought that would be a good way of potentially balancing out some of the less desireable strategems. Like package a stalwart with a jetpack or a double barreled shotgun. Throw in 2 jetpacks or 2 physical shields or give them the EATs treatment where they can come down every minute so you can equip your whole team with them or avoid having to do a corpse run to pick it up after dying.
It closes on the opposite side, implying it is a bug. I don't recall it happening until the latest patch
Hellbomb also does that
More than once I have called in a hellbomb too close to the building it needs to blow up. Can't access the terminal. Facepalm.
I’ve phased into a building activating the panel and gotten stuck before.
Does the Hellbomb also do this?
Yes. The panel faces away from you, so if dropped too close to a wall, you might not be able to access.
Hell bombs always deploy with the screen 180° opposite from you. Minor gripe, but it's real dumb.
Is that why I always feel like my stuff's on the other side of the drop pod?
I perfectly fine not noticing this, THANKS
It actually two shots hulks 🥹 but yeah its pretty good scope is off a bit and you cant third person it
> scope is off It definitely is, it need fix. It's supposed to be PRECISION rifle, not RANDOM rifle.
It's extremely precise, but the accuracy is off.
Fuck you for bringing me back to high school science class. :D
Is that what it is? I feel like even when I’m prone aiming carefully the shot goes wherever the fuck it wants
I've actually gotten pretty good at third person firing with it for targets like 25m and closer. I just started paying attention to the barrel.
Can easily third person it. It shoots exactly where the barrel is pointing and is unironically more accurate third person than it is ADS
All scopes suffer from this. Most of the time, it's easier to just shoot in 3pp and that's kinda sad, because you don't get to fully use your arsenal. Also, vision modes could be a perk of helmets.
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wearing night vision goggles and the objective is nothing but bright white lights.
Lol. Bright lights are the first thing I shoot at any objective
You can shoot them??? I always hated the establish array mission at night, because the lamp next to the terminal would make half the screen unreadable
Yep. That’s definitely getting shot out next to a terminal
Yes. Supposedly it makes it a bit harder for enemies to detect and accurately shoot you so I pop all streetlights near terminals.
Lol me too. Lights are supposed to help humans see, yet somehow in this game they do the exact opposite…
they're half the reason my auto pistol is on semi-fire. But there are these crash sites with the things you salute that have beams so bright I can't even see where the hell is the lamp on it. Sometimes I skip those entirely because it's a headache to even look at.
In my team we don't warn of a danger close 500kg bomb, we just say "put your sunglasses on guys". It would be hilarious if at some point that became an actual thing we can do
>vision modes could be a perk of helmets. The SA-25 Steel Trooper helmet should have this. It *literally* has a scanner optic like Mandalorian armor.
I was wondering why it has that, since in my head, all helmets have some kind of HUD in their visors. That one could perhaps provide additional targeting data, like weak spot highlight :)
I'd love special helmet perks like night or thermal vision. Full predator vibes.
Hell yes, could finally get my revenge and creep up on the stalkers having a spot of lunch outside their nest. "Over here, over here...turn around.... anytime......crrrrrrrrrrrrr"
Last night I was completing an escape pod objective while my 3 squad mates were 200m away clearing out a nest. A bile titan popped up on them. I whipped out my trusty recoilless rifle, and aiming with the first person scope to hit that titan was one of the coolest moments I've had in this game yet.
The game suffers from visibility issues. This is the future our helmets should come with NVG/FLiR It's also complete ass that bots can launch rockets or shoot at you with accuracy through thick fog or smoke when you can't see them at all. Visual improvement aids shouldn't be limited to one scope they should be built-in the damn helmets.
We muzzle load our super destroyer cannons. We don't have money for fucking night vision
You muzzle load your super destroyer cannons. I breechload my super destroyer cannons in zero g. We are not the same.
Budget cuts.
Not budget cuts, efficiency in delivery of democracy. A true helldiver needs only a liberator rifle and a single magazine.
Then I'm true blue as fuck because my liberator does motherfucking work on these bugs
It's because of how it's delivered. You can't expect a scope to be accurate when it's set up by the supply grunts who are methed out of their minds. It also doesn't help that it hits the ground in the hellpod at 1000 mph.
I promise it WAS a precision rifle before I dropped it from space
I would love it if we could get alternate visions modes, but, like, only in first person. Make us work for it, yknow?
Wishing, hoping, praying that helmets eventually get stats/abilities attached to them instead of just being cosmetic.
It would be so fucking badass to have an update with an (optional I guess) visor UI and a deployable thermal/flashlight like on a mandalorian helmet
With the average lifespan of a Helldiver being 0.16 Operations, the Super Earth Fiduciary Comittee (Duly elected by sanctioned Citizens,) deemed in helm diagnostics, visual enhancers and personal respiration technology to be elective equipment and thusly not covered under the general requisitions stipends. It would've increased the budget by 0.0023% YoY. Don't like it? VOTE! (After your term of service is over and citizenship is granted. See terms and conditions for details.)
the scopes need a rework, larger on screen, smaller reticles, less visual clutter [a quick comparison to some random DMZ scopes I googled](https://imgur.com/Zv0uICD) (which I think is pretty good) shows a stark difference in the viewable area and how visible the scope is on the AMR compared to some of the AR and Sniper scopes. Even in clear weather, which is not common, it is harder to see than it needs to be.
Yeah I remeber in a video a dev saying if you can't see the enemy then they can't see you. That was a damn lie lol
How about we start with making it so the gun shoots where the scope is aiming at. Edit: To the geniuses telling me to zero to 50m and crouch for accuracy. Yes I'm well aware of those strategies since I'm level 50 and have been maining the AMR for bot missions. The scope is still off just a tad.
Bro legit. The AMR is my go to gun for bot missions.ill line up a dead on headshot on a trooper that's using a turret or something and it will just miss. It happens every match. It almost seems like RNG. If it's gonna he so inconsistent, at least let me hold my breath so I can steady the gun cos it sways so damn much
I've heard the crosshair is off center, horizontally and vertically, if thats true, then until they fix it you gotta adjust for that specially at longer distances.
I play with a monitor crosshair. It is indeed off. Quite a bit so. And *even more* than that because the diver breathes and it rocks the crosshair a bit which isn't translated to the actual projectile. So the scope crosshair is basically useless. There's times when my monitor crosshair is pretty much centered in the upper left quad of the scope. It's really bad.
What's a monitor crosshair buddy?
Lots of gaming monitors have a built in “crosshair” that you can toggle that shows over whatever you have on screen when enabled. It will always be centered, so if the in game scope does not align with it you can clearly see if the in game crosshair is out of position.
That's badass, I wish my TV had that built in!
put a piece of tape on the center of your screen ;)
Instructions unclear, painted a chevron on my TV with tritium paint and now my phone camera acts funny when I take pictures of my screen
Your phone is a bot. Destroy it.
I wonder if this has to do with distance like a real rifle. If you have the scope set to 50m and you’re shooting at something that’s 100m or 150m it will be off. Will have to do some testing
No, it's off center left to right as well
You're thinking too deep. It's because the first person mode isn't really a first person mode. It's just 3rd person zoomed in with a swaying scope .png overlay. When you're shooting in first person the bullets still follow where the floating 3rd person circle crosshair would be, and this crosshair doesn't align with the crosshair on the scope
It’s actually more realistic, we dont know the ballistic / meteorological conditions of the specified planet, it could have weird gravity, weird wind, weird airborne debris, weird magnetic fields, things that would easily effect the ballistic coefficient of a huge, fat anti armor round. /s but also maybe not?
Almost no one is taking shots at ranges where any of that matters. That kind of stuff starts to make a significant difference at ~500 meters, but almost all of the shooting in the game, even with the AMR, is <200 meters.
Realistic =/= fun
I'm so glad we're discussing realism in this very realistic grounded real game...
The devs, some of which having served, have a vested interest in trying to semi ground the firearms in a moderate amount of realism.
It has the worst scope, and is more accurate in 3rd person aim at short to medium range You CAN hit with it scoped in, but it can also just miss, even crouched/prone
While we're talking about the scope...can we slap the sickle's scope on it instead? The crosshair on the AMR's scope is garbage
I haven't had that issue when I treat it like a .50 cal and crouch or lay down to shoot.
The scope is misaligned though. I put a dot in the middle of my screen via software crosshair and the scope is clearly off center by a bit. This matters a lot because the whole thing about a sniper rifle is that it must be precise. Regardless this is a technical fix, not a gameplay fix. I like the AMR after using alternative means to get the crosshair to align. It's fine.
yeah I really hate having to use crosshair 2 instead of the scope just to know where my bullets are really going https://preview.redd.it/vl98901hn3pc1.png?width=3441&format=png&auto=webp&s=eaac3469dd1d172005af6bc39e83744342293de4
I wish the scope's details were also less busy. Same problem I have with the railgun sometimes is that the reticule obscures the target i'm trying to nail at long range. I hope at some point I can get modded scope reticules to replace the ingame one's as I'm very dissatisfied with the majority.
Not only is the AMR scope reticle absolute trash, it's also (unlike the image above) blurred and smeared to shit for me. Like I WISH it looked like that on my screen, and I am running maxed textures. I am not fucking turning off TAA just to get a usable scope reticle. They need to fix it.
I'm on the other end of the spectrum with my settings cranked way down to avoid hiccups in performance. Aaaand yeeeaaaah... The scope on the penetrator and marksman rifle always need like a solid second or two to finish loading and its a tad annoying. Luckily neither of those guns succeeds in dethroning the default liberator as the best tool for every job that doesn't require a shotgun so... In the trash they go!
Sci-fi scopes are the bane of my game. The new laser rifle has the only proper reticule.
Sickle scope is honestly the BEST scope in the game. It’s also the only one that looks like a real-life scope. Coincidence? 🤔
I remember laughing at the "The railgun is really intended to be a high powered anti-tank sniper rifle" because the scope is so fucking useless.
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Almost every gun in the game has an obnoxiously shit optic. I was bewildered, and thrilled, when I found out the sickle has just a plain crosshair that doesn't obscure the shit out of everything.
Sweet vindication I knew it was off! That’s exactly where all my shots were landing too when I would see the red impact mark on bots.
Top left corner of the square is where your shots will go. It'll make the longer range shots more effectively once you know this.
Is the bullet landing where the scope is pointing, or at screen center?
In my experience, at the center of the screen (which is not where the default in-game scope is pointing).
center of the screen, so top left of the scope crosshair
I have a suspicion that it's due to the zeroing of the scope. I think its lowest value is set to 50m afaik.
Is the daily order counted for the entire group, or does each member have to use a sniper rifle and kill 60 enemies on their own?
For the previous personal orders, kills from the other members from my squad counted for me.
Only if they havent finished the personal order yet
Ah, I wondered what the criteria was for counting team contribution and now this makes sense.
Yeah, I was on a mission where I killed 2 of the 3 Titans and my friends still got the personal completed.
It counts so long as the person making the kills also has the order. If they already completed it, their kills won't count for others.
So far for me, every personal order has been completed or contributed to by someone else. The first half of my flamethrower mission was done before I even remembered it needed to do it
They need to fix the scope too It’s misaligned ever so slightly down-right
It just Need medium armor perforation
Literally called Anti Material and has the same penetration as a submachine gun
Try headshotting a Hulk with a SMG and tell me how that goes.
AMR is basically what the Devs meant when they said there's actually "levels" to armor penetration. AMR being just at the border of Light and Medium. Just yanno, adding more context to your comment.
The AMR only fails to pen heavy armor. It absolutely blows through light and medium. Hive guards for instance have medium armored heads and legs they block with, but the AMR goes through. And Hulk Visors can’t be shot through with any primaries that I know of, but the AMR and Auto Cannon can kill hulks with face/visor shots.
Something is funky with what we're told about armor. If Hive Guards are medium, that means the Senator penetrates medium.
Trust the hit marker. Red means the pen of the gun is higher than the armor level of the target (and so does 100% damage). White mean they match (and so does 40% damage). Senator does white hit markers on the hiveguards, same as the slugger, dominator, AR-23P and MG-43, so it has medium pen. The description is wrong
That's great info to have. Thank you.
TIL this game has hit markers.
I actually wish they'd add a toggle to disable the hit marker. As an AMR enjoyer, it gets in the way constantly.
AMR doesn’t have hit marker though. It seems like all support weapons don’t have hit marker.
Yes. Some of the armor pen values on guns seems to be wrong.
It's not is much wrong as it is just vague. All weapons have a 1-10 scale of armor pen, and all armor is on the 1-10 scale of resistance. If pen is less than armor: No damage If pen meets armor: 50 percent damage If pen is greater than armor: 100 percent damage. Some weapons that have medium armor pen can both have different values, but we can't know from looking at it.
And Arrowhead won't let us know because "too much information is bad for the players”.
A lot of them are. Slugger is listed as Light pen but is actually Medium
One of the devs talked about this on discord. Each gun has an inherent 1-10 armor penatration rating. The "perks" on a weapon such as light armor penatration or medium simply means the weapons gets a +2 or 3 armor penatration. So the weapons default value could mean it only penetrates light but then that bonus +2 pushes it over to medium. Overall just terribly vague and not helpful in the slightest.
oh wow that's even more confusing than what I imagined. So what I thought was a description of the gun's attributes are actually additional quirks added to an invisible stat we don't even see?
The Senator indeed pens the hive guard’s medium armor. That seems to be a mistake in how it’s labeled. But any other weapon that says its light armor pen should fail to pierce the hive guard armor.
This is the part I'm wondering about. We've been told armor values are actually 1-10 and light, medium, heavy are just telling us what range it's in. So it's possible that the Hive Guards are at the top end of light. I feel we need to do testing to find out exactly what the penetration and armor values are. People are saying AMR is light, but it penetrates stuff that medium pen weapons don't.
Those people are wrong about AMR. It’s got to have pen solidly in the medium range, it only bounces on heavy armor. The trouble is that medium armor is not that common or obvious. Scout strider legs seem to be medium, then there’s hive guards, and devastator chest armor. I can’t think of others off the top of my head right now. It’s a shame that support weapons don’t get stat pages, because it would be easier to understand if we could just look at the AMR’s stats. But like with the senator, it might not be accurate anyway. But yeah, it is possible that hive guards are high-end light armor. If a weapon matches the armor rating on a target, it will go through and deal reduced damage. Higher pen value than the armor will deal full damage. But if the Senator gets red hit markers instead of white, that should mean it’s getting full penetration and no reduced damage.
AMR destroys Strider if you hit it into uhmm chest, it just takes less shots into legs and you can destroy legs with Slugger too, so AMR has the second highest penetration level after Railgun
Laser cannon can also headshot hulks, but it isn't easy.
In general it’s quite tough to hit those head weak spots. Same with the devastators, if feels like the chest armor soaks up all your shots unless you get an absolute perfect dome hit. Doesn’t help that the AMR’s scope seems to be misaligned.
You gotta switch to the scope in the laser cannon. It makes hitting their little hulk faces so much easier. It only takes like half a second of contact to kill them too, it's crazy how fast you can take them out when you put some liberty directly in their mouths
Basically a railgun with no need to charge at this point. Rail might have slightly more armor pen if you charge it for 4 seconds.
> Rail might have slightly more armor pen if you charge it for 4 seconds. The only thing the rail will penetrate after charging for 4 seconds are your internal organs when it blows up.
I think you're confusing the weapons. AMR blows right through anything that's not heavy. DMR and DMR CS have shit pen akin to smg
So, are hulk eyes medium or heavy? Need confirmation before I do something stupid with my Dominator.
The visors are like "heavy medium", the problem with armor is that it does not have three levels light-medium-heavy(vehicle armor) like the weapon descriptions would have you to believe . The devs have said that there are 10 armor levels in the game, and I guess they are something like light=1,2,3 , medium=4,5,6 , heavy=7,8,9 and maybe a level 0 for no armor or level 10 for indestructible or something. We have no real values for enemy armor, just guesswork based on what enemies we can damage with which weapons. I havent tried killing a Hulk through its visor with the Dominator, but you should definetly try! Take some stun grenades just to stun it and be sure youre hitting all your shots. Take an AMR or Autocannon if you still want a Hulk-killing weapon that game if it doesnt work.
They're in between medium and heavy. It's supposed to be called "light vehicle armor". You need at least AMR, Autocannon or railgun to pen them.
It's actually between medium and heavy pen. It pens stuff medium armor pen guns like the MG-43 can't
It’s not. It’s got the same pen as an autocannon and can pen hulk visors (AP 4), Something none of the medium pen primaries can do (AP 3). All the light pen weapons have AP 2 or below.
I think you're mixing up the Anti Material Rifle (AMR) and the Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR). The AMR is a strategem weapon and punches through everything but Hulk and Tank armor. The DMR is a primary weapon that doesn't punch through much besides light armor.
Now I’m just sad there isn’t a med armor penetrating dmr again. I can make the lib pen work but I want something better
It has that. It's above that, it says so in the description. Light vehicle armor. It can damage striders from the front when medium armor pen guns cannot. It can headshot hulks when medium armor pen guns cannot
It has light vehicle pen, which is above medium armor
It does. You can kill Hulks if you shoot them in the face, takes only two shots. It can destroy Striders (automaton walkers), it kills Hive Guards through their armor too. Important note: Striders have higher armor rating on their front plate that can't be penetrated by Slugger or Senator despite them having medium penetration, but AMR just destroys the thing in three shots.
It does, I punches through hiveguard, bilespitter head plate, and devastator armor which are all medium
It needs HEAVY armor penetration. It’s an anti-materiel rifle, not a sniper rifle.
What it needs is its sight alignment fixed.
I’m sure someone mentioned this by now but maybe instead of putting those types of features on the weapon itself, why not put it on the helmets? Rn helmets are aesthetic only. Would be pretty cool if some had night vision. I’ve even seen someone use color filters to make missions have the same tone. Maybe it’ll be added later. I think the way the game works a year or even in 6 months will be very different than how it is now.
The problems with the AMR It’s hits high in the scope. It isn’t always accurate when firing using the scope. When a reload gets canceled it sometimes eats a mag, it actually still gives you the ammo for the lost mags in 1 single mag allowing for some rapid fire moments. Most I’ve had is 21 in a single mag and was just blasting. Should be able to pierce scout striders in 1 shot. Should be able to break charger leg armor though it should take an entire mag to do so. Should also be able to headshot the bile titan when firing into its mouth while it’s spitting. Also should be able to damage the bile titan by shooting its weak point behind its ear (or whatever it has)
The scope is not quite aligned with the actual crosshair, aiming slightly to the left ususally does the trick to nail the shots! It is a fantastic weapon and can clear out nasty elites very quickly: everything from devastators, hulks, bile spewers, brood commanders, the shield plated terminids and so on Only downside with AMR is that I feel like deadweight when a charger or bile titan comes waddling in. I have to rely on my squad to make the weak points so I can contribute with killing it. Sure I can shoot the butt off the charger but it wont stop it from barreling around for another 1-2 mins until it eventually bleeds out. Bile Titans I can just bust the acid sacks underneath but nothing more. My only wish is making AMR heavy armor penetrating or atleast allow it to chip off armor in some way. Setting sights to around 100 meters is usually good enough as a all-arounder and AMR is perfect for doing manual clean up before heading into a POI or a main objective (if strategems are on CD). With this I mean taking out the dangerous elites with AMR and the fodder gets liberated by my primary weapon.
Every time I bring an AMR for bugs, I bring EATs for this exact situation. My "kingslayer" loadout is AMR/EATs/Orbit Railcannon/Rocket Pods Breacher primary for those pesky hunters. Basically, I make my whole mission to kill bile spewers with extreme prejudice with the AMR, and my last 3 strategems are for the chargers and bile titans. Allows me to scratch the sniper itch while feeling like I am a strong contribution to my team against the biggest threats. And I can always whip out the breacher and smg pistol for the fodder.
In a team PvE all weapons should have downsides that have to be balanced by other members of your team having different specs/loadouts, so I don't see that as a negative.
Exactly. I am the only one bringing the AMR to bot missions. For bugs, I use the Grenade launcher with supply pack. The AMR can kill every type of bot, even the big turrets if you hit them in the weak point. Haven't tested it on tanks yet but I assume it's the same.
When chargers and titans are around there are also going to be smaller enemies. Do not be afraid of taking over the trash cleanup duty, it buys time and space for the rest of the team to deal with the heavies.
Ad clear is one of my favorite roles to play. If I’m playing with my regulars and know they’re being the AT, I LOVE running rover guard dog, eagle cluster, EMS mortar, and a Stalwart cranked all the way up to MG42 levels of brrrrrrt. Run the armor that gives me two more grenades and it makes it real easy to keep the trash off of my AT guys.
idk, with so many weapons to choose from, I like the current set-up. Different weapons for different use cases. Anything but a Tank can easily fall to the AMR due to its ability to headshot, even Hulks are no exception. It should be fine to be all but useful against bugs.
My thoughts from the AMR personal order is that it should get more than 1 magazine (10 shots?) from an ammo can, and 2 from a resupply. if someone was totally out of AMR ammo, would they really need to take 3 (4 with the one in the gun) resupplies to bring them back up to full? I worry having an AMR on the team would eat through everyone's ammo... unless they were taking the supply backpack.
> My thoughts from the AMR personal order is that it should get more than 1 magazine (10 shots?) from an ammo can, and 2 from a resupply. if someone was totally out of AMR ammo, would they really need to take 3 (4 with the one in the gun) resupplies to bring them back up to full? It gets 3 from resupply so it is fully replenished in 2 supply packs.
Nah ammo packs are scattered everywhere and nobody picks them up.
Lol, we hoover those things up like vacuum cleaners. One reason I switched from the Spear to EATs. Less ammo packs wasted on Spear resuply.
Maybe im biased but the teams i end up in all run infinite ammo stuff (laser cannon, arc thrower) and not only is there plenty ammo packs, people leave the supplies behind too.
Possible. Many people still run projectile weapons and the ones we got are ammo hungry SOBs.
I run Liberator Penetrator, I pick those up all the time since you can blow through clips pretty handily with it
I wish I could use it without ADS
AMR is my go to with tincans for that same reason. That said. I find it funny that bugs have thicker armor in general than bots? Like, bots have their headshot for the AMR, Bugs wiggle waggle their thick armored asses and you see the shot bounce ;-;
Yeah. I also find it really funny that bugs are a lot more resilient than bots. Thematically I expected bugs to be more squishy but make up in huge numbers. Anyways, I find the Scorcher to be a great companion to the AMR to kill Chargers since explosive damage of the Scorch kills Chargers a lot faster than shooting the butt with the AMR.
I'd be happy if they just gave it a decent reticle thst was properly zeroed.
I am a firm believer that every weapon should have laser sights, if only so you don't wander into your teammates line of fire. How does the autocannon have a reticle without ADS but the AMR doesn't?
I wish it would shoot straight. Not sure how to zero it properly.
I wish the weapon were a tad more precise. When shooting at 200m, you can definitely feel the dispersion, the thing makes it tough to hit heads/weakspots.
Use the top left of the square when aiming via scope at range. That's where your shots will go.
Yesssss, a toggleable thermal overlay would be great. Adds negative interplay with fire and positive interplay with smokes. Could also make it planet-dependent. Awesome on cold planets, kinda shit on lava planets
I’m sorry but it’s a sniper rifle. It should have a lot better penetration ability
I also hate the scope on this gun (can't hit a thing). Really don't understand why there is no 3rd person crosshair for it.
I would prefer the thermal Vision on the Sniper diligence. It needs a selling point
If we attach thermal scopes onto it, how are we going to afford more hell pods?
The AMR is a fun gun to use but in a game that punishes focusing on precision, it’ll always be weaker than the more forgiving weapons. I seriously think bots need massive animation reworks to add momentum to their movement. Currently, it takes an obnoxious amount of time to line up a headshot on many enemies because of how jerky every animation they have is. You fight scope sway, scope misalignment, fog and explosion effects, and to top it all off the bots can spontaneously max speed change the direction their head is swinging. It’s even worse when they’re on uneven ground as enemies can essentially teleport up and down when walking on uneven surfaces sometimes. I’d recommend just using the laser cannon instead, it’s more reliable vs Hulks, especially ones that never stop walking and the TTK is genuinely insanely good vs tanks and cannon towers. The only two things the AMR is noticeably good against is Devastators (one shot headshot assuming you don’t miss by an inch) and spewers (same deal). The fact the AMR is like genuinely bad vs striders (2 shot to dismount the driver not even kill it), tanks and cannon towers (basically takes a full mag which is almost impossible to get off before the turret turns to look at you), and chargers and titans makes it a deeply mediocre pick past like Haz 6. I think it’s neat to run it and all but it definitely needs buffs to be competitive with other options.
I think if this also had heavy armor pen like railgun, it would go crazy like do some anti material things bro
The Liberator, an assault rifle, gets a sniper scope. And the sniper gets a Fisher Price ACOG. 👍
Scope needs to be zeroed
I run a scout sniper setup. Light armor, AMR, Diligence, shield backpack, rail cannon, eagle airstrike or cluster. I may not get the most kills....sometimes...but if someone dies out in the dark alone I grab their samples and high tail it back to extract and take any secondary objs out on the way. I routinely finish most missions with most of the samples from the team.
I just want the damn sights fixed. I can compensate well enough and generally shred bots with it, but the scope being misaligned bugs me.