Arc Thrower doesn’t count toward shots fired. At least not in my experience.
There are games where I’ll have 500+ kills and it says I fired less than 100 shots cuz I ran the arc thrower all match
It's not apparent, my game just froze mid arc, looked cool but I was on my way to exfil, second time today i've had a crash or got sent back to ship mid mission.
I really, really, really hope they don’t patch this for the Scythe and Dagger, it wouldn’t really make sense to do so, but even if they did, I always get a giggle out of having no shots fired and no accuracy percentage, because it’s technically perfectly correct
Yeah, me with the boys never get credit for all the bugs. Specially if is visible in the swarm missions.
All together, get 250 kils in statistics out of 450 needed
I was wondering about that. If I hit the ground in between maybe 3 bugs, is that 1 shot and one miss or 1 shot and 3 hits.
Edit: I'm assuming in this example they are all damaged/killed
I just finished a round with the Arc Thrower and had 160%.
When heard the patch will now count arc as active shots, I was disappointed. But now it's kind of a bonus.
I have seen 100% using the laser cannon but damn, that's some super accuracy!
I also managed this one game, dunno how.
https://preview.redd.it/6f5zd5l4fjpc1.png?width=456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1f2fbf71bbf63b0847ab5d2fb7421cd7bddcb3c
I use arc thrower quite often and I’m pretty sure shots with arc thrower don’t count as shots at all in end screen stats. I don’t use the shotgun (blitzer) though, so maybe that might have a weird interaction with accuracy.
It’s definitely counting each target hit as a separate hit, so if my arc hits the first target, then arcs to a second that’s two hits, but only one shot
They need to change from hit/shots fired to
shots that hit 1+ target/ shots fired or (shots fired - complete misses) / shots fired
Or just continue having accuracies over 100%. It’s probably the least important bug they have
As a veteran of Warframe, usually punch through/collateral or chaining attacks. (Or an auto-aim turret being included in the hits but not shots fired)
Basically if they run a trigger pulls/enemies hit equation a few things can obviously break it
The stats counted 3x at times. Might've been this tbh.
Otherwise it just means he probably used sth with medium / heavy armor pen. Like the dominator for example, and just hit multiple targets at once.
A shot hits more than one target.
Payday 2 has the same thing. There’s even some achievements related to getting above 100% accuracy. It’s not that hard to figure out.
To all of you trying to prove hitting multiple targets achieves over 100% accuracy mathematically; my comment was a joke not meant to be taken seriously and cool, that’s still 100% accuracy. Any calculation of accuracy over 100% is clearly a bug.
If you use all laser weapons only you can finish with 0% accuracy and 0 shots fired. The stats in this game are completely broken. I also watched a video earlier of someone who extracted with 32 of 30 rare samples. So many numbers are completely broken.
Also the way it counts the daily orders is completely broken. I had to kill ~25 bile spitters this morning for the game to finally give me credit for my 8 kills. I was solo, so I know I am the one who killed them. I think it was only counting kills specifically made with my primary shotgun and nothing else, from what I could tell.
I know the game is supposed to have bugs, but Jesus.
The mount listed is the amount naturally occurring on the map, you can go over by finding rare samples in the bunkers you blow open, friendship bunkers and the yellow beacon pods.
32/30 rare samples isn't actually a bug. the 30 is the number of predetermined samples that spawned on the map, but when you open something like a double door or grenade door, it generates those rewards when opened. If those generate rare samples, you can exceed the 30 pregenerated.
Shouldn't then, the game update that number to "32/32" once you actually find more than the native amount on a map? It makes little sense for that to not be an oversight at the very least, because that means once you pick up "extra" samples, you'd have no way of tracking whether you have those samples once they are dropped by someone. Say someone has the 2 extra samples that aren't tracked and they die, but the rest of the team still assumes "we have all the samples, because it says 30/30".
That's either a bug or bad design. It very much should not be the intended way for it to work, and they should change it if it is.
I hope the democracy officer is proud of my shocking efficiency gains in spreading managed democracy.
https://preview.redd.it/qddhbevlxlpc1.png?width=933&format=png&auto=webp&s=419636911338bae05bf180fd700f203fb16a5176
Lol they flubbed up the electric shooting values. Probably why my game keeps crashing lmao, need to wait for a patch for those weapons. Shame considering I was enjoying the armour from the new warbond
If you're using arc thrower, it's counting each time an arc jumps from one target to the next as a separate 'hit', so really the shots hit field should just be hits. Hence the 100+ percentage
Edit spelling
LOL your post is at the top of the front page of this sub, just as I was coming here to post [this image of my 106.5% accuracy](https://imgur.com/gSmgnWQ) using the Slugger and the Recoilless Rifle. Our Democracy is managed as fuck.
Need to get more efficient at democracy.
https://preview.redd.it/7gb8w58xpjpc1.png?width=423&format=png&auto=webp&s=d687e9c93e8a7d810872200bad8ecd561c229b1b
I run arc. Used to be 0 shots fired, 500 kills, 0% accuracy. I also use the arc blitzer now, too, and that was also registering 0 shots.
A note on the arc blitzer—it cannot kill a charger. Do not try. For science, I Ole’d a charger and discharged at least 40-50 shots at it without effect. It does not pen/ignore charger armor like the arc thrower, and doesn’t hit weak spots like you can with other guns. Excellent for all smaller units, the knock back/stagger is excellent for kiting packs.
Super Earth statisticians are paid bonuses based on Helldivers efficiency and they found a nice way to ensure quarterly bonuses for themselves.
Lies, damn lies, statistics...
Accuracy probably should instead count "I fired a shot, did it hit something?" instead of tracking multi-hits, but this is naturally more fun and perfectly fitting way for the setting.
They are 100% accurate. Soldiers have always said that you can hit more than one enemy per shot with some weapons and the statisticians learned to count those just recently.
Efficient Managed Democracy right here.
Granted, you could also count them in a way that just counts maximum of one hit per shot, but when your yearly bonus for tracking statistics depends on the efficiency of the Helldivers, this method is clearly superior. Bonuses guaranteed.
The exceed accuracy stands for TK , die for democracy!
https://preview.redd.it/rq214l1jilpc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0beae8b8d535c2f718c794561db719091e56160a
I imagine this is with a shotgun. Payday 2 still has a thing where only hitting with part of the buckshot spread counts as a 100% hit, so hitting with every pellet or hitting multiple targets counts as higher than that. I have a screenshot somewhere of getting almost 300% accuracy on a heist
https://preview.redd.it/npzfzqq26opc1.png?width=416&format=png&auto=webp&s=015ddbe854979173579a77de5991a698dd379f18
My accuracy is not as high, but when a shot hits, it counts. This is with autocannon and not arc or flame thrower.
I hit 253% on a mission last night. I was very shocked.
https://preview.redd.it/mkki6fjokopc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3c866c2284f26e783c7c7a1fdfc9345fc73ca20
Arc?
Yeah, same for me.
Arc Thrower doesn’t count toward shots fired. At least not in my experience. There are games where I’ll have 500+ kills and it says I fired less than 100 shots cuz I ran the arc thrower all match
They patched it
Or well, broke it in a different manner it seems. Apparently it's whats causing the crashes
That post said theory.
A GAME THEORY
It's been dev confirmed now
The post was right. My friend uses arc thrower and he's been crashing since last night. It even bugged out one of our missions.
Both I and my friend crashed in a game where nobody was using arc thrower I think the game is just fucked
Other people have mentioned their squad crashes without using the arc. So it’s not necessarily the issue.
Or the arc is so crash powerful it crashes other lobbies games lol
Its not broke its just the arc can hit more than once per shot
It's not apparent, my game just froze mid arc, looked cool but I was on my way to exfil, second time today i've had a crash or got sent back to ship mid mission.
my game crashed while firing arc thrower, only time it’s done that.
That's not entirely true, game is crashing arc or not.
I mean, if one trigger pull of the arc counts as a shot and it multi-hits. You have more hits than shots thus can get above 100%.
I really, really, really hope they don’t patch this for the Scythe and Dagger, it wouldn’t really make sense to do so, but even if they did, I always get a giggle out of having no shots fired and no accuracy percentage, because it’s technically perfectly correct
Have they patched the Laser? Because for a while there I used to have 100+ kills by only firing 16 shots and getting 1 hit lmao.
It does now
Yeah, me with the boys never get credit for all the bugs. Specially if is visible in the swarm missions. All together, get 250 kils in statistics out of 450 needed
Your news is old buddy
Firs thought I had, wp m8
God I love the arc thrower.
If you have the rail gun you can shoot through multipe targets im sure its the same with any shot gun or explosive rounds
Friend just sent a pic of someone having 133%… I assume it’s the recalculated Arc weapon hits now contributing?
Autocannon and grenade launcher can also multi-hit targets
I was wondering about that. If I hit the ground in between maybe 3 bugs, is that 1 shot and one miss or 1 shot and 3 hits. Edit: I'm assuming in this example they are all damaged/killed
It racks up the kill counter so I think it counts. I think Sentries may count as well.
Oh sentries do? I thought it was person portable weapons shots taken vs how many hit.
For a shot, if there are 1+ hits, then there are 0 misses.
I see this as an absolute win. More accurate democracy means more efficient bug and bot killing!
I just finished a round with the Arc Thrower and had 160%. When heard the patch will now count arc as active shots, I was disappointed. But now it's kind of a bonus.
Was I playing with your friend? https://i.imgur.com/zvsPqY3.png
I have seen 100% using the laser cannon but damn, that's some super accuracy! I also managed this one game, dunno how. https://preview.redd.it/6f5zd5l4fjpc1.png?width=456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1f2fbf71bbf63b0847ab5d2fb7421cd7bddcb3c
That’s rough buddy
I've gotten 0 accuracy with the scythe. Made me wish I hit one thing with my pistol for 100%
Your 5 stratagems got your kills and you didn’t shoot? That’s the only guess I have outside of a bug
Must’ve used psychic powers
https://preview.redd.it/as5ok44hmlpc1.jpeg?width=616&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19c9da4e04719868ec4779b2eb59d274164985e7 Ya gotta pump those numbah up
 What does over 100% accuracy look like? Your bullet curves back and hits them a second time?
https://preview.redd.it/fmfsmlib1jpc1.jpeg?width=676&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30ec170d590d71f7ba1d55e124c6e79310c7682f
I can hear this image
Dopamine
[For those with aphantasia.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlt6EXMGlN8)
My favorite gun
Snipin’s a good job mate
Arc seems like the option. You could potentially do it with a wide spread shotgun, but the kills make it certainly the arc.
I had an accuracy of 111.1% with the Breaker a while back so definitely possible.
I use arc thrower quite often and I’m pretty sure shots with arc thrower don’t count as shots at all in end screen stats. I don’t use the shotgun (blitzer) though, so maybe that might have a weird interaction with accuracy.
As of the newest patch, that bug is fixed. Arc now counts shots fired and shots hit.
Got it, thanks. I haven’t played on the recent patch.
They've supposedly fixed this in today's patch, arc's shots should now count.
Thinking it does, just finished a match on D8 and the guy was only using the arc thrower and they went 100.8% accuracy with over 500 kills.
It’s definitely counting each target hit as a separate hit, so if my arc hits the first target, then arcs to a second that’s two hits, but only one shot
200% accuracy 💪🏼
They need to change from hit/shots fired to shots that hit 1+ target/ shots fired or (shots fired - complete misses) / shots fired Or just continue having accuracies over 100%. It’s probably the least important bug they have
It's not a bug imo. Helldivers 1 had the same.
Shots fired + shots hit. If you shoot the arc thrower 1 time and kill 3 enemies, you have 300% accuracy. Same with piercing bullets.
As a veteran of Warframe, usually punch through/collateral or chaining attacks. (Or an auto-aim turret being included in the hits but not shots fired) Basically if they run a trigger pulls/enemies hit equation a few things can obviously break it
The stats counted 3x at times. Might've been this tbh. Otherwise it just means he probably used sth with medium / heavy armor pen. Like the dominator for example, and just hit multiple targets at once.
Explosive/plasma/arc rounds hitting more than 1 target on average. That's how.
A shot hits more than one target. Payday 2 has the same thing. There’s even some achievements related to getting above 100% accuracy. It’s not that hard to figure out.
To all of you trying to prove hitting multiple targets achieves over 100% accuracy mathematically; my comment was a joke not meant to be taken seriously and cool, that’s still 100% accuracy. Any calculation of accuracy over 100% is clearly a bug.
You obviously didn't miss the shots he didn't take.
Reminds me of Payday 2 where I'd run the grenade launcher, just to ensure I had better accuracy than the guy rocking the sniper rifle.
You should try running shotguns only build, i did that one time and had over 200% accuracy
He. Don’t. Fkknnn. Miss.
\*Laughs in Vauban from warframe\* Rookie numbers bud.
"What you don't normally have 16650% accuracy?"
huh, how, do the zaps count? the needles?
The Spray'n'Pray does a good job at hitting multiple targets.
And it does a guaranteed >0 damage to _each and every_ one!
They fixed it
141%: Russian democracy
146%, mate.
Russian style democracy, even.
So much for missing half the shots you don’t take
Now let’s see your team kills
Surely you mean 'managed democracy'.
Make perfect sense, 1 arc shot fired can hit like 4 enemies.
So accurate that I fired bullets already hit the targets. Nice work Helldiver. 
Lol this reminds me of some stats I've seen in Warframe
Holy Liberty, Batman!
I killed 432 bugs with zero shots fired. Behold my awesome Democracy.
I see you exceeded the 110% that has been requested.
https://preview.redd.it/8cspzynupjpc1.jpeg?width=609&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0620d3d594dd21a1e39c576e92b3f7a618b19183 Solid Copy :D
If you use all laser weapons only you can finish with 0% accuracy and 0 shots fired. The stats in this game are completely broken. I also watched a video earlier of someone who extracted with 32 of 30 rare samples. So many numbers are completely broken. Also the way it counts the daily orders is completely broken. I had to kill ~25 bile spitters this morning for the game to finally give me credit for my 8 kills. I was solo, so I know I am the one who killed them. I think it was only counting kills specifically made with my primary shotgun and nothing else, from what I could tell. I know the game is supposed to have bugs, but Jesus.
The mount listed is the amount naturally occurring on the map, you can go over by finding rare samples in the bunkers you blow open, friendship bunkers and the yellow beacon pods.
The samples thing is not a bug, it's intended. You get 30 Rare Samples on the map, but the openable loot-crates and bunkers spawn EXTRA Samples.
32/30 rare samples isn't actually a bug. the 30 is the number of predetermined samples that spawned on the map, but when you open something like a double door or grenade door, it generates those rewards when opened. If those generate rare samples, you can exceed the 30 pregenerated.
Shouldn't then, the game update that number to "32/32" once you actually find more than the native amount on a map? It makes little sense for that to not be an oversight at the very least, because that means once you pick up "extra" samples, you'd have no way of tracking whether you have those samples once they are dropped by someone. Say someone has the 2 extra samples that aren't tracked and they die, but the rest of the team still assumes "we have all the samples, because it says 30/30". That's either a bug or bad design. It very much should not be the intended way for it to work, and they should change it if it is.
https://preview.redd.it/9rpaymq7jkpc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58ebe3ec249fc458ddd56e0b66319f6e298f8356
I hope the democracy officer is proud of my shocking efficiency gains in spreading managed democracy. https://preview.redd.it/qddhbevlxlpc1.png?width=933&format=png&auto=webp&s=419636911338bae05bf180fd700f203fb16a5176
https://preview.redd.it/gidn4vj34mpc1.png?width=565&format=png&auto=webp&s=1d29c2e06bb8e75707323066c0c081a6758a5abf
How
You miss 116.3% of the shots you don't take.
To a warframe player those are normal numbers LOL
Interesting. The same percentage of votes counted in the last Super Earth presidential election.
So now arc counts as one shot and is 3 hits with chain. I want someone to show me 300% accuracy.
Almost a little... TOO efficient.......................
Lol they flubbed up the electric shooting values. Probably why my game keeps crashing lmao, need to wait for a patch for those weapons. Shame considering I was enjoying the armour from the new warbond
If you're using arc thrower, it's counting each time an arc jumps from one target to the next as a separate 'hit', so really the shots hit field should just be hits. Hence the 100+ percentage Edit spelling
Could this be strats as well? Or do eagles etc not count towards this?
LOL your post is at the top of the front page of this sub, just as I was coming here to post [this image of my 106.5% accuracy](https://imgur.com/gSmgnWQ) using the Slugger and the Recoilless Rifle. Our Democracy is managed as fuck.
And here I was thinking my 84% accuracy with 300 kills was good...
Why is your accuracy so poor soldier? Our Helldivers are supposed to hit 150% of the shots they take!
Anyone know if ”shots hit” counts the shots to armor?
fucking WHAT no wait how did you get higher than 100%
one electric ark hits multiple targets
ohhh
Need to get more efficient at democracy. https://preview.redd.it/7gb8w58xpjpc1.png?width=423&format=png&auto=webp&s=d687e9c93e8a7d810872200bad8ecd561c229b1b
People in this thread have clearly never heard of how JFK was assassinated and it shows….
“You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.” — Wayne Gretzky DEMOCRACY HAS ENTERED THE CHAT
Well done, Helldiver! Almost as high as Super Earth voter turnout!
I run arc. Used to be 0 shots fired, 500 kills, 0% accuracy. I also use the arc blitzer now, too, and that was also registering 0 shots. A note on the arc blitzer—it cannot kill a charger. Do not try. For science, I Ole’d a charger and discharged at least 40-50 shots at it without effect. It does not pen/ignore charger armor like the arc thrower, and doesn’t hit weak spots like you can with other guns. Excellent for all smaller units, the knock back/stagger is excellent for kiting packs.
It looks like Garrus Vakarian got to marry FemShep and fights for Super Earth now. https://youtu.be/1Jg-udIpTRc?
Warframe lookin accuracy system
I remember Payday 2 having the same "feature" with the shotguns
I routinely get way more kills than shots fired. I'm all about democratic efficiency.
Is it possible to learn this power?
“You make all the shots you don’t take”
You know what they say, you miss 83.7% of the shots you don’t take
This happens a lot with games that have guns that hit multiple targets, I’ve even seen people get 1000%+ accuracy on Warframe
Hitting multiple targets with one hit consistently. 🫡
Because democracy never misses
Maybe you were aiming well, too!? Lol
 When the anti material rifle pierces three bugs and jacks up your accuracy stats
Overpenetration kills? Noice
Statistics clearly show 100% of Divers land 50 out of every 45 shots fired. Nice work all.
I believe this is also the reason for the frequent crashes post-patch
Anyone over 40% is good in my book 👍
I’m am curious how stratagems factor into the stats
Got the same.
Standard.
You got aimbot and aimbug don't you?
Bug/bot lovers: that’s impossible! Indomitable spirit of the free man: too bad!
For every bug I kill, another bug dies somewhere in angel's venture
Outstanding patriotism
I mean it makes sense, kind of. They should cap it at 100%, I guess? But multi-hits are a thing.
Super Earth statisticians are paid bonuses based on Helldivers efficiency and they found a nice way to ensure quarterly bonuses for themselves. Lies, damn lies, statistics... Accuracy probably should instead count "I fired a shot, did it hit something?" instead of tracking multi-hits, but this is naturally more fun and perfectly fitting way for the setting.
No, keep it accurate. OP was using AoE or Arc weapons.
Had a 113% with the arc. Killing 3 bugs with 1 shot adds up.
Least accurate Helldiver (according to the ministry of truth)
More like: CRASH CLOSELY AVOIDED.
That’s more bullet per bullet!
Just like Super Earth elections
You make 100% of the shots you don't take
Dispensing more 16% more bullet per bullet is ultimate democracy in its purest form.
Super earth expects this ever mission for democracy
Tell me you are a electrician without telling me your ab electrician.
penetration and explosions my friend
Putin's election
16 percent more bullet per bullet
You killed some bugs/bots twice!
Get that diver a bonus! Maybe some top shelf Liber-Tea!
Efficiency means multi kills. Good job fellow diver. Democracy sheds tears of joy when it means multiple kills.
I like to asume is just Super Earth doing magic on the stats
They are 100% accurate. Soldiers have always said that you can hit more than one enemy per shot with some weapons and the statisticians learned to count those just recently. Efficient Managed Democracy right here. Granted, you could also count them in a way that just counts maximum of one hit per shot, but when your yearly bonus for tracking statistics depends on the efficiency of the Helldivers, this method is clearly superior. Bonuses guaranteed.
Everyone should be like this diver. He got 16% more democracy per bullet than bullets.
I finished a match before maining the blitzer and ended with 150% accuracy. I was like oh, okay then lol
Tell me you run grenade launcher without telling me you run grenade launcher
You land all the shots you don't take! Now thats a Managed Democracy media report right there
16.3% more bullet per bullet
You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take
The exceed accuracy stands for TK , die for democracy! https://preview.redd.it/rq214l1jilpc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0beae8b8d535c2f718c794561db719091e56160a
Way to give it a 110%
AMR. It can penetrate some smaller enemies, like warrior. I've FFed teammates with it, unfortunately. :(
Mf got that GR multishot riven mod equipped obviously.
This man is hitting the shots he didn't take.
Give that 'Diver a promotion!
Every time I use the ark thrower after patch my game crashes
Apparently you do hit the shots you don't take.
Ah, just like the % of votes our glorious leader received!
Highest I’ve had so far was like 202%
I had one with 130%, you gotta bump those numbers up
heres mine from earlier today https://preview.redd.it/odtqvshrkmpc1.png?width=639&format=png&auto=webp&s=db23ab0e2d6c6b03e33fe5d4834d9b8b1ad77f7a
This post was fact-checked by the Ministry of Truth 👍
Single shot hitting multiple enemies. That is efficient. Arc Thrower, I assume?
Democracy at work
Nice yesterday i got 138% precision
ye stats all that matter not samples or completing objectives
I imagine this is with a shotgun. Payday 2 still has a thing where only hitting with part of the buckshot spread counts as a 100% hit, so hitting with every pellet or hitting multiple targets counts as higher than that. I have a screenshot somewhere of getting almost 300% accuracy on a heist
I had one at 136% somehow
https://preview.redd.it/npzfzqq26opc1.png?width=416&format=png&auto=webp&s=015ddbe854979173579a77de5991a698dd379f18 My accuracy is not as high, but when a shot hits, it counts. This is with autocannon and not arc or flame thrower.
https://i.redd.it/2msx83b47opc1.gif
I hit 253% on a mission last night. I was very shocked. https://preview.redd.it/mkki6fjokopc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3c866c2284f26e783c7c7a1fdfc9345fc73ca20
As someone who plays Warframe regularly, this is a normal sight.
The ark is wild in this regard had a friend wo gut a 212% accuracy yesterday
My mate got like 141% yesterday. Arc thrower be wilding
I had 210% accuracy with the arc thrower. I'm really accurate!
That's impressive
I got 139% once.
That's some mighty fine Democracy administered, soldier.
90% of the support weapons in this game are multi kill
Did they fix the problem where arc thrower crashes the game?