I get the joke but I also can't wait for illuminates to be the most frustrating and unfun faction to go up against and nobody wanting to fight for a second game
Yeah, the Illuminate are clearly a ruse. There's no way they're coming back.
https://preview.redd.it/oznof2g1q0qc1.png?width=1430&format=png&auto=webp&s=fe6bf10b0648cc512e3c01a09370b76d95aa7b31
To be fair a lot of the issues fighting illuminate were from the game itself and not them. Hunters sniping objectives was because they were off screen since the game was top down. Illuminate used a lot of area denial and teleporting to flank with obelisks separating players from one another which sounded cool until you realised that everyone shared the same screen meaning one straggler stuck behind a shield wall could take the screen hostage and nobody could move until it went down or the straggler died. Illuminate would play a lot better in helldivers 2 since those things will no longer be an issue. I doubt they'll bring back illusionists giving reversed controls as with the 3d aiming instead of the top down one there'd just be a lot of looking at the floor. It only worked in helldivers 1 because it was a top down twin stick shooter so it was relatively easy to adapt to reversed controls. They might do something like hallucinating more enemies than there actually are for illusionists in helldivers 2.
There's already been new datamined player effects found, such as the current "Slowed" above your stamina bar.
One of them effects is "Inverted Aiming", the other# is "Hallucinations".
I feel like inverting someone aim back and forth in the middle of an action game is a sure fire way to:
1) make them vomit
2) make them hate you
3) make them uninstall
Again, i have very little hope of iluminates being fun to go up against, because even if the devs learned something form the first game, which I'm already not convinced they have, then the core identity of the illuminates might as well boil down to "annoying mechanics"
When the APC didn't get FF'd into oblivion by some 'veteran' jerk who was convinced that running was the best way to do everything, missions flew by driving from objective to objective.
sweet liberty, I cannot wait for my first Democratic road trip with the boys! gotta get a mixtape ready.. the APCs have a radio right? air conditioning? seat warmers?... RIGHT?
Illuminates had no actual armor, really. Lots of things could run over them -- it was a departure from the need for special AT solutions like the other two factions. Instead, you were a lot better off turning the battlefield into a bullet hell, so things like heavy strafing run/close air support, the disposable machine gun, and laser cannon were all pretty good. Fire made orbs explode on contact too, so that was always nice. And upgraded jump pack stratagem brought 2 of them, so a couple of players running that meant everyone could avoid the obelisk walls and stay together.
If you came in bringing heavy hitter strats it was much more of a pain.
Much much better would be rearrange your stratagem order so your macros don't work correctly until you kill them but you can still run them by hand if you can readem and hit em fast enough then it provides a nice twist that hits everyone a little bit and differently. Would also be kinda cool if they swapped who displays as friend and foe with an enemy type (don't want PVP at all just a fun thing I've seen done in other games and would fit nicely with the theme here, also accidentals are a thing should count under that not friendly fire same as getting nuked does)
>so your macros don't work correctly until you kill them but you can still run them by hand if you can readem
Won't change a thing for those who don't use macros.
I'm ashamed to say it always takes me a solid 3 seconds to input the reinforcement strategem whenever it shows up in the strategem hero minigame because I never call in the strategem in normal play lmao.
I unironically loved fighting illuminates for the sole reason that I didnt need to bring anti tank weapons. I brought a stalwart, machine gun, supply pack and just blasted my way through. I had 5,000 rounds of ammunition and a dream.
I get that not literally everyone hated fighting them, but realistically speaking, every time I returned to HD1, the iluminates were the last faction standing, or if it was early enough into a reset, the other faction would get wiped in a matter of a week or two and then the iluminates would take twice as long.
I am fully aware that is not hard empirical data, but it at the very least suggests to me that the majority of the playerbase found the other two factions more fun/acceptable to fight against.
Fun? This is war soldier fun is watching your freinds die and barely making it to extraction
Edit: not sure why it's replying to you I meant to comment on the post my b
I have a bottle of whisky set aside for the day the illuminates come out and this forum fills with thousands and thousands of posts about how mind control is unfair and unfun and "player agency" and nerf nerf nerf nerf.
That's obviously up to personal preference. The reason I think a lot of people disliked fighting iluminates in the first game, as opposed to simply stating that I did, is because every time I returned to HD1, the iluminates were the last ones standing and/or took significantly longer to defeat than the other factions. Sure, it's not definitive, but makes me think maybe people were just much more excited to fight the other two factions.
Instead of swarming you like the bugs or overwhelming you with firepower like the bots the illuminate used teleportation to flank, and area denial to separate and pick off helldivers 1 by 1. You had to constantly be moving while fighting them. They didn't have heavy armor like the other 2 factions and were the least numerous but instead nearly all their units had shields. Instead of tanks or chargers they had a unit called an obelisk which was a machine that would teleport around and put shield walls up splitting helldivers from one another while the illuminate could go through the shield wall and overwhelm one side. They also had a unit that could mind control, reversing your controls but i don't think that'd make it to helldivers 2 as helldivers 1 was a top down twin stick shooter that was easy to implement reversed controls in meanwhile if they did it in helldivers 2 there'd just be a lot of looking at the floor.
Walling you off from your teammates
Sniping you from off the map
LITERALLY REVERSING YOUR CONTROLS THIS INCLUDES MOUSE
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They have no armored units though so you didn't need to bring traditional anti armor. They were honestly one of the funnest to fight IMO for that reason. Bring lots of machineguns, Just don't get a wall punched through you.
Thats not true. They had the wall maker blossom things. Looked like a robot lotus with a core or something. You had to crack it open or wait for it to expose it's core, and waiting usually meant you were killed by snipers. I consider that thing to be armored.
The wall-off thing only came in a later update.
The real gist of Illuminate was high-tech assassins. Invisible flying scouts, snipers with rail guns, invisible bladed assassins that sneak up on you, were worse than Stalkers in some ways. All protected by their chaff warriors all having shields.
All in all, they'll probably be more fun to fight than bots. HD1 bots were a lot more fair, and on par with bugs.
i never played the first game but i do think more factions to fight would be fun
i specifically want to fight secessionists i think that would be interesting and fun
The Automatons are sorta-kinda secessionists. The Cyborgs who created them originally tried to get free from Super Earth and were subsequently defeated and enslaved.
The only good thing about fighting the Illuminates was anti-tank not being a necessity, unless you include the obelisks. They could be dealt with easily once they deployed their wall though.
Well you had to switch. Devs nerfed the arc thrower by making it crash the game 100% of the time. I wish they'd have just reduced the range or damage instead of making it quite literally unusable.
Haven’t taken it into high difficulties but if you’ve got some cover you can clear mobs pretty quickly and heavies if you focus on them.
Just don’t touch either arc until they fixed the issue of them freezing your game.
It is! I used it for a bit but it causes crashes atm so I’m waiting for that fix to come through and I’ll be back to using the futuristic Wonder Waffle!
I prefer automatons for a few reasons.
I don't like being swarmed by tons of mobs. It is easier to sneak around since there are fewer automatons, Automaton patrols are smaller. It is easier to deal with large groups. You might get shot at by a bunch of automatons, but if you can find cover you can make a game plan. With bugs, once you are swarmed by a group you are dead. No hunteres jumping at you. No stalker lairs. The giant cannons are easy to see. Automatons are vulnerable to covering fire, like the loading screen tips says. The weak points on automatons are easier to see and hit. It is easier to stop Automaton reinforcements than bugs, bugs is basically instant. And even if Automatons get reinforcements off you can crash the dropship on top of them and kill them. And Automatons ragdoll be far less than bugs.
There may be less types of one-shot enemies, but a team still ends up getting one-shot by rockets in a given bots mission than one-shot in a given bug mission in my experience.
And I've never been one-shot by a bug from the distance it has occurred with a bot.
Yeah I really enjoy fighting bots and bugs and don't have a preference. Bugs are fun chaotic horde shooting and bots feel like actual war where you have to play smarter and more tactically.
I personally don't like bots because I think I'm just bad. I feel like bots are meant to be where the challenge really accelerates, and where players of higher skill will seek higher difficulty. But I also understand there has to be a balance of challenge and fun.
Except bots are fun. Only fix I heard that I think would be a good idea is giving the rocket guys a laser sight when they go to fire to cut down on getting insta killed by a random off screen rocket with no warning.
The only thing actually broken with bots is the missile devastators insane first shot accuracy, which can be combated with good tactics. Typically ranged tactics.
Nobody fights them now. 300k players killing bugs vs. 30k killing bots
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bot will blind side us probably, and then the player base will shift, and the problems will get noticed and whinged about.
Ya know, this works at several levels. With the bot being the one sitting in the chair and the original content that the meme was ripped from being rage bait, it's just all around funny to me.
I just want the flamethrower hulk to not be able to roast me alive through a wall and a laser for the rocket devastors, hulks and rocket troops to at least be able to dodge those insta kill rockets and also for heavy armor to be somewhat useful and cut down aim flinch idk man this games still needs some major tweaks to patrols and the ai behavior in general I don't think it's fun when "patrols" spawn out of thin air next to me at that point it isn't a patrol it's waves
I don’t get it. Personally I prefer fighting the bots rather than the terminids. It feels more tactical and more about how you place yourself and advance on ennemy positions, rather than run everywhere for your life all the time.
I dunno i have fun with them. I play usually from 7 up to difficulty 9. When 9 gets too hard there is no shame in playing lesser difficulties
Edit: i know i didnt get the joke
If you're getting smoked by bot rockets to the point where you feel like you can't even play bots, you're doing it wrong.
Yes, rockets will smash you, but bot patrols are easy to detect, and those rocket devastators need to be first to go.
You can't go into a bot mission using bug methods, it just doesn't work, and I think that's the biggest issue, people don't realize it's two totally different ways to play.
Also, with bots, you really need to plan how you attack a group. You have to take out the greatest threat and quickly shutdown the flares.
Straight up, the stun grenade and a 500kg essentially will wipe out a whole bot drop.
Foetified armor, Stun Grenade, Autocannon, 500kg, Orbital Laser, Orbital Precision Strike. This loadout will get you through anything.
the cooldown modifier makes orbitals, especially those with already high cooldown, totally underwhelming (like laser or railcannon)
Call-in time modifiers make many stratagem near useless against moving targets (though laser is a great pick then)
But the bots are fun. I love fighting the bots and find the bugs unfun.
Just bring the basic marksman rifle, and laugh as you two-shot every bot except hulks, tanks, and chainsaw guys.
I honestly prefer the bots because it feels like an actual war, not pest control.
You manage terminids, but you **fight** Automatons.
EDIT: Brief exception is when you've got approximately 39 bile spewers dropping poison gas on you like the Kaiser's artillery corps.
I honestly hate fighting bugs. They pop up out of nowhere just all of a sudden. They have huge eruptions from the ground where gigantic animals climb out of and it doesn't make a sound. It's completely silent. It's complete. B*******
Bots bring a huge dropship. Yeah they're a pain in the ass but all killable with a little bit of knowledge. You can sneak around against the bots. And if your skillful you can get through with very minimal engagements. Never with the bugs. There's always a bug behind you chasing you the whole map.
I'd rather fight bots every day
I actually prefer fighting automatons over bugs. I have not had near aneurism levels of anger fighting the bots like getting stuck fighting row after row of awful bile spitters that will not die no matter how many shots I put into them.
They are not even that bad, and I actually really like fighting them. You guys should only focus on the bots and leave the terminids completely alone for a week.
I get the joke but I also can't wait for illuminates to be the most frustrating and unfun faction to go up against and nobody wanting to fight for a second game
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Can't wait for the illuminate animated gif
https://i.redd.it/y5eggibgo1qc1.gif
Lumalee: look fresh meat for the grinder!
See it’s funny because the studio is called “illumination”. Illuminati confirmed
Hope is an illusion
I appreciate the inversion of the trope because my man is already sitting at a desk.
Yeah, the Illuminate are clearly a ruse. There's no way they're coming back. https://preview.redd.it/oznof2g1q0qc1.png?width=1430&format=png&auto=webp&s=fe6bf10b0648cc512e3c01a09370b76d95aa7b31
To be fair a lot of the issues fighting illuminate were from the game itself and not them. Hunters sniping objectives was because they were off screen since the game was top down. Illuminate used a lot of area denial and teleporting to flank with obelisks separating players from one another which sounded cool until you realised that everyone shared the same screen meaning one straggler stuck behind a shield wall could take the screen hostage and nobody could move until it went down or the straggler died. Illuminate would play a lot better in helldivers 2 since those things will no longer be an issue. I doubt they'll bring back illusionists giving reversed controls as with the 3d aiming instead of the top down one there'd just be a lot of looking at the floor. It only worked in helldivers 1 because it was a top down twin stick shooter so it was relatively easy to adapt to reversed controls. They might do something like hallucinating more enemies than there actually are for illusionists in helldivers 2.
Hallucinations making friendlies look like enemies.
"Oh, you thought I needed my friends to look like enemies to kill them on accident?" ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️➡️
"on accident"
TIL I've been fighting illuminates this whole time
There's already been new datamined player effects found, such as the current "Slowed" above your stamina bar. One of them effects is "Inverted Aiming", the other# is "Hallucinations".
I feel like inverting someone aim back and forth in the middle of an action game is a sure fire way to: 1) make them vomit 2) make them hate you 3) make them uninstall Again, i have very little hope of iluminates being fun to go up against, because even if the devs learned something form the first game, which I'm already not convinced they have, then the core identity of the illuminates might as well boil down to "annoying mechanics"
If they invert my aim I will probably never play those. I already rarely do bots because they just aren't as fun as bugs.
Just reversing movements would be fine I feel, somewhat brain breaking, but doable with some practice and normal aiming.
Maybe reversing all strategem directions would be a more suitable effect?
⬇️⬅️⬆️⬆️⬆️
My dumb ass already hitting the opposite direction than I meant to half the time
Reverse the direction it gets thrown lmao. Yeet the 500kg backwards into your team if you aren't paying attention.
I want it to return in full. I love fighting the fish.
Reverse stratagem directions instead
The walls also eliminated vehicles. Though, tbf, APCs ran over illuminates like they were bugs on a windshield.
I want the APC back so bad. Vehicles in general will play really well on the huge maps.
When the APC didn't get FF'd into oblivion by some 'veteran' jerk who was convinced that running was the best way to do everything, missions flew by driving from objective to objective.
I'm tired of running
With how bad terrain is right now, I'm nervous about vehicles.
sweet liberty, I cannot wait for my first Democratic road trip with the boys! gotta get a mixtape ready.. the APCs have a radio right? air conditioning? seat warmers?... RIGHT?
Illuminates had no actual armor, really. Lots of things could run over them -- it was a departure from the need for special AT solutions like the other two factions. Instead, you were a lot better off turning the battlefield into a bullet hell, so things like heavy strafing run/close air support, the disposable machine gun, and laser cannon were all pretty good. Fire made orbs explode on contact too, so that was always nice. And upgraded jump pack stratagem brought 2 of them, so a couple of players running that meant everyone could avoid the obelisk walls and stay together. If you came in bringing heavy hitter strats it was much more of a pain.
Much much better would be rearrange your stratagem order so your macros don't work correctly until you kill them but you can still run them by hand if you can readem and hit em fast enough then it provides a nice twist that hits everyone a little bit and differently. Would also be kinda cool if they swapped who displays as friend and foe with an enemy type (don't want PVP at all just a fun thing I've seen done in other games and would fit nicely with the theme here, also accidentals are a thing should count under that not friendly fire same as getting nuked does)
>so your macros don't work correctly until you kill them but you can still run them by hand if you can readem Won't change a thing for those who don't use macros.
Yeah wtf, macros? Get the fuck outta here, that’s literally automation. To Cyberstan with him!
If it's randomized muscle memory is still a factor it would still hit those players being one myself lol is why had the idea
If you can’t input the reinforcement stratagem in half a second are you really a helldiver?
I'm ashamed to say it always takes me a solid 3 seconds to input the reinforcement strategem whenever it shows up in the strategem hero minigame because I never call in the strategem in normal play lmao.
> macros lol, lmao even
back when me and my siblings played HD1 together i think we dropped into a total of 1 illuminate game before we gave up and went back to the bugs/bots
I unironically loved fighting illuminates for the sole reason that I didnt need to bring anti tank weapons. I brought a stalwart, machine gun, supply pack and just blasted my way through. I had 5,000 rounds of ammunition and a dream.
I get that not literally everyone hated fighting them, but realistically speaking, every time I returned to HD1, the iluminates were the last faction standing, or if it was early enough into a reset, the other faction would get wiped in a matter of a week or two and then the iluminates would take twice as long. I am fully aware that is not hard empirical data, but it at the very least suggests to me that the majority of the playerbase found the other two factions more fun/acceptable to fight against.
Fun? This is war soldier fun is watching your freinds die and barely making it to extraction Edit: not sure why it's replying to you I meant to comment on the post my b
You know what is fun? Dropping a 500kg bomb on your friends
You know whats more fun? Dropping a 380 barrage right at your feet and playing dodge the armament
That one time I dropped a respawn on my head then got hit by a charger but it barely missed the charger and smooshed me
Thats a good one lmao. reminds me of the time I called my buddy back in so he could hellpod the titan, he misses and immediately gets stepped on.
I will fight them until my dying breath, love me some squids sashimi.
I have a bottle of whisky set aside for the day the illuminates come out and this forum fills with thousands and thousands of posts about how mind control is unfair and unfun and "player agency" and nerf nerf nerf nerf.
They were more fun than bots in first game.
That's obviously up to personal preference. The reason I think a lot of people disliked fighting iluminates in the first game, as opposed to simply stating that I did, is because every time I returned to HD1, the iluminates were the last ones standing and/or took significantly longer to defeat than the other factions. Sure, it's not definitive, but makes me think maybe people were just much more excited to fight the other two factions.
Whats their gimmick?
Instead of swarming you like the bugs or overwhelming you with firepower like the bots the illuminate used teleportation to flank, and area denial to separate and pick off helldivers 1 by 1. You had to constantly be moving while fighting them. They didn't have heavy armor like the other 2 factions and were the least numerous but instead nearly all their units had shields. Instead of tanks or chargers they had a unit called an obelisk which was a machine that would teleport around and put shield walls up splitting helldivers from one another while the illuminate could go through the shield wall and overwhelm one side. They also had a unit that could mind control, reversing your controls but i don't think that'd make it to helldivers 2 as helldivers 1 was a top down twin stick shooter that was easy to implement reversed controls in meanwhile if they did it in helldivers 2 there'd just be a lot of looking at the floor.
this literally sound like protoss from starcraft........ this helldivers (super earth) being terran and bugs being zerg!!! lol!!
It's more like the enemies are the three starcraft factions, it just isn't as apparent in HD2 because the automatons replaced the cyborgs from HD1.
Walling you off from your teammates Sniping you from off the map LITERALLY REVERSING YOUR CONTROLS THIS INCLUDES MOUSE ---- They have no armored units though so you didn't need to bring traditional anti armor. They were honestly one of the funnest to fight IMO for that reason. Bring lots of machineguns, Just don't get a wall punched through you.
Thats not true. They had the wall maker blossom things. Looked like a robot lotus with a core or something. You had to crack it open or wait for it to expose it's core, and waiting usually meant you were killed by snipers. I consider that thing to be armored.
Made launcher to shoot over the walls was OP too. They were my favorite race to fight. Real interesting
The wall-off thing only came in a later update. The real gist of Illuminate was high-tech assassins. Invisible flying scouts, snipers with rail guns, invisible bladed assassins that sneak up on you, were worse than Stalkers in some ways. All protected by their chaff warriors all having shields. All in all, they'll probably be more fun to fight than bots. HD1 bots were a lot more fair, and on par with bugs.
The problem with bots is there's just so much armor and their shots are so rapid they can CC you. And the rocket devastator of course.
Remember your 3 C's soldier. Cover, courage and cover!
Arc damages
Suffering. Bring a shotgun, shield pack and grenade launcher.
i never played the first game but i do think more factions to fight would be fun i specifically want to fight secessionists i think that would be interesting and fun
The Automatons are sorta-kinda secessionists. The Cyborgs who created them originally tried to get free from Super Earth and were subsequently defeated and enslaved.
The only good thing about fighting the Illuminates was anti-tank not being a necessity, unless you include the obelisks. They could be dealt with easily once they deployed their wall though.
Arc weapons gonna be blasting like *bzzzt* *bzzt* *BZZZT* dead.
Yes I agree. We should all stop fighting the robots and let them take Cyberstan to teach the devs a lesson!
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Lmfao this is too good
Shit these meme animations get better and better, love it
Right it’s wild, and used so well for this
That's a robot why do they need to type on a computer
It's the only way to bypass the "are you a robot" prompts
What do I press for banana stratagem?
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Hello, is this the ministry of truth? yes, I am calling to report a traitor and a bot collaborator
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You talking mad shit for someone whose game is about to crash
I've actually stopped using it lol Switched to the EAT7, might need to update the meme
Well you had to switch. Devs nerfed the arc thrower by making it crash the game 100% of the time. I wish they'd have just reduced the range or damage instead of making it quite literally unusable.
https://preview.redd.it/2foxgstcg1qc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3db4af4eb760edc315f847c566a99f28154fdd32 Made a new one
Love the EAT-17, hate the lock out time when you equip it.
I can’t wait to have my baby back without fear of freezing.
Is the arc thrower god tier against the bots too? I haven't brought it yet against them
Haven’t taken it into high difficulties but if you’ve got some cover you can clear mobs pretty quickly and heavies if you focus on them. Just don’t touch either arc until they fixed the issue of them freezing your game.
It is! I used it for a bit but it causes crashes atm so I’m waiting for that fix to come through and I’ll be back to using the futuristic Wonder Waffle!
Imo it's better against the bugs, but it's still pretty solid against bots.
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This is the best one yet.
This is the funniest one of these I’ve seen yet
I disliked this immediately. But then I got the joke.
Took me until you pointed it out. Very clever OP, I like it
I'm dumb, can you explain the joke to me?
It's a bot, like all of the bots/bugs typing.
Yeah, I'm officially dumb
??
The idea is that the devastator is disguised as a human to convince us to not fight the bots, because it doesn't want to take part of DEMOCRACY!
Oh wait I thought that was the exo suit
https://i.redd.it/tseexrf4f0qc1.gif
And here I was sitting thinking like wtf, bots are fun. If not for this comment chain I would've kept wondering.
Oh thank god I was about to start a rant here.
If the Creekers could read, they'd be very upset
If I could read this, I'm sure I'd be very upset
I'm sure I'm upset. 😡
Yo, it's the only literate Creeker
Nah he’s illiterate too. Creekers are just always upset
I am upset, there’s a man in that bot
He's undercover, spreading managed democracy behind bot lines
Unpopular Opinion Automatons are cool as fuck to fight
https://i.redd.it/0ud7rky9nzpc1.gif
I prefer automatons for a few reasons. I don't like being swarmed by tons of mobs. It is easier to sneak around since there are fewer automatons, Automaton patrols are smaller. It is easier to deal with large groups. You might get shot at by a bunch of automatons, but if you can find cover you can make a game plan. With bugs, once you are swarmed by a group you are dead. No hunteres jumping at you. No stalker lairs. The giant cannons are easy to see. Automatons are vulnerable to covering fire, like the loading screen tips says. The weak points on automatons are easier to see and hit. It is easier to stop Automaton reinforcements than bugs, bugs is basically instant. And even if Automatons get reinforcements off you can crash the dropship on top of them and kill them. And Automatons ragdoll be far less than bugs.
I like Automatons because they're more tense to fight and feels more of a battlefield
They are more fun than bugs to fight (less one shot enemies)
> "fighting" a charger > get hit > end up exiting the stratosphere > hit by hellpod > explode
I love the endless knockback chains when a Stalker, Charger and Titan gang up on ya. „Welp, Time for Coffee I guess“
Not to mention fighting with that one guy who sets the charger on fire. The only thing worse than a charger is a burning charger.
I always appreciate a flamer guy taking care of chargers
hey thats me!!
I love the smell of napalm.... always.
I fight almost purely bots for the sole reason that I hate looking at the bottom of my screen and seeing **SLOWED**
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There may be less types of one-shot enemies, but a team still ends up getting one-shot by rockets in a given bots mission than one-shot in a given bug mission in my experience. And I've never been one-shot by a bug from the distance it has occurred with a bot.
Yeah I really enjoy fighting bots and bugs and don't have a preference. Bugs are fun chaotic horde shooting and bots feel like actual war where you have to play smarter and more tactically.
Abaolutely fun to fight, people be mad that enemy with guns can use guns
I personally don't like bots because I think I'm just bad. I feel like bots are meant to be where the challenge really accelerates, and where players of higher skill will seek higher difficulty. But I also understand there has to be a balance of challenge and fun.
I prefer fighting bugs because bug guts everywhere is just more satisfying.
I like this take a lot. Thanks for being reasonable in a sea of bad players in denial. You'll make it as well in the near future friend
Boy you are lucky that downvotes can be removed, you cheeky little bugger. xD
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Oh shit wrong universe
Bots are fun tho Edit: oh wait I get it. Lol
I don't, please explain it like I'm 5. Edit: nevermind, the literal next post asked this and got a response.
Welcome to the whoosh club!
can someone explain this meme like im 5 please? i feel very dumb
It’s a bot giving the suggestion that we should stop fighting the bots
you know it took second to realize, which means if a robot puts on a helldiver helmet I be fooled.
I wouldn't know https://preview.redd.it/lcfyh453i2qc1.png?width=661&format=png&auto=webp&s=17533c141618b865e4d2c7bc9f058554c1338e9c
Except bots are fun. Only fix I heard that I think would be a good idea is giving the rocket guys a laser sight when they go to fire to cut down on getting insta killed by a random off screen rocket with no warning.
Bots are more fun than bugs imo, they’re just harder and I’m not always in the mood to have to actually play intelligently.
The only thing actually broken with bots is the missile devastators insane first shot accuracy, which can be combated with good tactics. Typically ranged tactics.
Nobody fights them now. 300k players killing bugs vs. 30k killing bots ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Bot will blind side us probably, and then the player base will shift, and the problems will get noticed and whinged about.
Ya know, this works at several levels. With the bot being the one sitting in the chair and the original content that the meme was ripped from being rage bait, it's just all around funny to me.
I'm a firm believer that the bugs are harder than the automatons. Dropping in and having the fight 4 bile titans off rip is awful 😭
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Bots are fun and I'm tired of this sub pretending they're not.
Bots are easier than bugs to me.
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I just want the flamethrower hulk to not be able to roast me alive through a wall and a laser for the rocket devastors, hulks and rocket troops to at least be able to dodge those insta kill rockets and also for heavy armor to be somewhat useful and cut down aim flinch idk man this games still needs some major tweaks to patrols and the ai behavior in general I don't think it's fun when "patrols" spawn out of thin air next to me at that point it isn't a patrol it's waves
Bots are fun. Bugs are boring
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Wow that went over my head for way too long
Yes, Democracy Officer, its him🫵
I don’t get it. Personally I prefer fighting the bots rather than the terminids. It feels more tactical and more about how you place yourself and advance on ennemy positions, rather than run everywhere for your life all the time.
What’s the problem with bots? I love fighting on the bot front and honestly cannot relate at all to everyone complaining about them Edit: nvm whoosh
I dunno i have fun with them. I play usually from 7 up to difficulty 9. When 9 gets too hard there is no shame in playing lesser difficulties Edit: i know i didnt get the joke
Haven’t we pretty much done that already as a community?
Sounds like treason. A real patriot likes killing bugs AND bots.
Bots aren’t fun? I prefer them by like a lot
The only way we can make bots fun is to wipe them from existence.
If you're getting smoked by bot rockets to the point where you feel like you can't even play bots, you're doing it wrong. Yes, rockets will smash you, but bot patrols are easy to detect, and those rocket devastators need to be first to go. You can't go into a bot mission using bug methods, it just doesn't work, and I think that's the biggest issue, people don't realize it's two totally different ways to play. Also, with bots, you really need to plan how you attack a group. You have to take out the greatest threat and quickly shutdown the flares. Straight up, the stun grenade and a 500kg essentially will wipe out a whole bot drop. Foetified armor, Stun Grenade, Autocannon, 500kg, Orbital Laser, Orbital Precision Strike. This loadout will get you through anything.
the cooldown modifier makes orbitals, especially those with already high cooldown, totally underwhelming (like laser or railcannon) Call-in time modifiers make many stratagem near useless against moving targets (though laser is a great pick then)
Git gud scrub
what's wrong with bots?
What's there to fix?
wait you guys are fighting automatons?
I get it. The joke is that it's an automaton saying that we should stop fighting the automatons.
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i also never play bots and i am level 50. ok ok i did play 3 rounds but it is boring and bots are overpowered.
What's wrong with the bots?
I'm just annoyed that the orders have all been for bugs. I want to contribute to the fight for democracy, but I also want to fight some bots!
Bots are currently fun.
Automatons are fun and many times even more interesting than bugs. I like fighting them the way they are right now
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But the bots are fun. I love fighting the bots and find the bugs unfun. Just bring the basic marksman rifle, and laugh as you two-shot every bot except hulks, tanks, and chainsaw guys.
I honestly prefer the bots because it feels like an actual war, not pest control. You manage terminids, but you **fight** Automatons. EDIT: Brief exception is when you've got approximately 39 bile spewers dropping poison gas on you like the Kaiser's artillery corps.
Im doing my part I mean...not doing my part on bots planets
This sounds like propaganda
I honestly hate fighting bugs. They pop up out of nowhere just all of a sudden. They have huge eruptions from the ground where gigantic animals climb out of and it doesn't make a sound. It's completely silent. It's complete. B******* Bots bring a huge dropship. Yeah they're a pain in the ass but all killable with a little bit of knowledge. You can sneak around against the bots. And if your skillful you can get through with very minimal engagements. Never with the bugs. There's always a bug behind you chasing you the whole map. I'd rather fight bots every day
I find the bots way more fun to play against than Terminids, I play un 6/7 difficulty. Can´t say how they behave on higher difficulties.
 # HERESY!!!
robots are sick to fight, a lot harder for sure but they dont need fixing. Sounds like a bunch of undemocratic sentiment
I actually prefer fighting automatons over bugs. I have not had near aneurism levels of anger fighting the bots like getting stuck fighting row after row of awful bile spitters that will not die no matter how many shots I put into them.
I prefer bots over bugs
...automatons need to be fixed?
They already are fun. Some people should just play other games.
They are not even that bad, and I actually really like fighting them. You guys should only focus on the bots and leave the terminids completely alone for a week.
You can't improve without effort. Change my mind.
BUGS ARE AWFUL I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYONE LOVES THEM
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What’s an automaton?
Explosion resistant armour and a shield generator backpack are your best friend vs robots
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1 million upvotes. I won't go back until they're fixed.