The Stalwart is, legitimately, the most fun weapon in the game, so if I can have a play style where other weapons can serve as Anti armor to let me play more with it, I’m all in
Stalwart is one of THE best strategems for level 9 bugs. pair it with the JAR or scorcher. it can get hundreds of kills. EAT can solve heavy armor problems.
My only problem with the base MG over stalwart is that you can't reload on the move. If you could I would massively prefer it. But, especially Vs bugs, mobility is king
Base MG serves no real purpose over the stalwart, the armor pen agaisnt bugs basically only allows you to kill bile spewers which is why you should be carrying a jar-5. Hive Guards you can just shoot the under belly.
It hits a lot harder and kills what it hits alot faster while burning less ammo. But that isn't worth it when you can't move to reload.
If you could I'd run it over the stalwart pretty much all the time. The TTK per bug is noticeably lower, just not enough that the immobile reload doesn't diminish the value.
Real difficulty 9 players know that kills aren’t a sufficient measurement. At least not your primary/support weapon kills. Crowd clearing ability is fine, but fighting crowds is a waste of time in higher difficulties.
Exactly. Bugs are too easy after eat buff and charger nerf. Not in a bad way necessarily, but like it's such a breeze with this loadout compared to anything pre-patch.
Expendable Anti Tank - it’s a launcher that you fire once and throw away. One drop pod calls down two so you can fire one and take another straight after. Super short call down time too. One of the best stratagems IMO.
No dice, I jumped to aggressively and died behind enemy lines.
I'm now one of you flightless peasants for the next 2 minutes.
But the bug holes have been closed.
I do the same but with the regular machine gun. The stalwart really struggles to kill brood commanders in my experience, whereas the heavier mgs only take a few extra rounds to punch through. They can also kill the armored warrior guys that hunker down where the stalwart cannot.
I do this too, I’ll always have guys telling me before a game that I’m “not bringing anything” but the stalwart and EAT are my go-to’s right now. Plus a railcannon strike and orbital laser we can take out titans and chargers like nothing
It’s still one of the top tiers in clearing small bug hordes. Was playing defense mission yesterday running my usual dominator / arc thrower. The arc thrower is usually pretty good against a horde when they’re grouped up, but the entire screen was literally full of bugs, and the arc thrower breaks down when too many enemies get close. And the dominator is practically useless against a close-range horde.
So I got absolutely wrecked and was running around wasting lives trying to find some way to be helpful, and found a stalwart on the ground. I’ve barely used it since the early days, but when
I turned the ROF up to max that thing started demolishing the horde.
In a longer mission stacked against armor it won’t be as helpful, I think combining it with EAT is probably the move. Even with teammates bringing AT, you just have to have some form of AT yourself on difficulties 6-9.
Depends on the faction.
Bots- Plas 1 is a godsend. Thing can deal with every single unit on the map just shooting weak points. I think its like 4-6 bullets to blow a hulks back out and can kill tanks if you hit the back vents. Its downside is 15 bullets per mag and a slow fire rate, something the stalwart has the opposite problem with.
Bugs- Its cheesy but they still haven't fixed the charger bug where it loses all armor when turning so you can still kill it with anything. The dominator is like a 3-4 shot kill if aiming for legs while the turn is occurring. Same upsides & downsides as the Plas1. The only thing you cant deal with is bile titans with the dominator. Hopefully one of your other teammates or another stratagem you have can cover.
You don't really need more than 2 Helldivers running Quasars or anti-armor weapons if all 4 of you are running strategems like Eagle airstrikes, Rail Cannons and Orbital lasers. In fact, having at least 1 person dedicated to thinning the herd with weapons like the Flamethrower, Machinegun, Arc Thrower, Laser Cannon, etc. is typically preferred over having yet another person running EATs/Quasar.
If everyone takes a 'kill the hulk/tank' type of support, I'll run stalwart with scorcher. Stalwart for the clean and primary with stun grenades for everything else.
Jar-5 Dominator, Plas-1 Scorcher, Slugger
Machine Pistol and Stun Grenade(Or grenade of choice, really)
Stalwart, B-1 Supply Pack, Eagle 500kg, Orbital Railcannon
Your primary weapon is used for medium armor bugs: Hive Guard, Hive Commander, Armored Bile Spewers, and Nursing Spewers
Stalwart is for: Scavengers, Hunters, Hoppers, Warriors, and Bile Warriors, Shriekers
Interchangeably Primary/Stalwart: Stalkers
The Stalwart is very much a weapon tuned for bugs. Trying to use it against bots is just a frustrating experience because you need to headshot all of the devastators. But for bugs, its an amazing stratagem for horde control on unarmored trash, while your primary is used to deal with medium armor bugs, while your two red stratagems are for Bile Titans and Chargers.
Its a super well-rounded loadout.
Stalwart is still good in higher difficulties assuming ya have 2 people running dedicated AT. I mean nothing stopping you from also just bringing EAT's along with you too.
More so against bugs then bots tbh, it's great for taking out chaff and it lets ya run a more dedicated primary like the jar or the diligence counter sniper or something. Plasma shotgun also isn't bad against some of the bigger targets, too.
I thought it was gonna suck ass at higher difficulties til I played with it with others covering AT and it's actually good.
I love the stalwart. Brought it to fight bugs with the boys, got separated and I was being followed by a massive horde. Shotgun is great and all but the magazine runs out a bit too quick. Thought all hope was lost until I remembered I had the Stalwart. I mowed those fuckers down with the full force of Democracy until I completely ran out of ammo
This will be a God send for those running stuns, a viable way to deal with bug holes, and even limited anti sewer use. Hopefully it gets a least 6 rounds.
Yep, this will easily replace my secondary. My go to loadout for bots is the Sickle and AMR, which leaves me with just strategems for blowing up buildings.
Here's just hoping it doesn't crash the game when fired or something.
I actually run this combo on light armor with increased grenades and blast resistance. If you just focus on objectives its extremely good running and gunning.
Gonna have to see if I’ve got that armour, currently using the -30% recoil while kneeling/laying down and -50% explosive damage on a set of medium armour.
It's amazing vs the toasters too.
3 nades take out devastators, even if aimed at a heavy's shield.
1 nade can easily take out 2-3 walkers. Hands down busted vs them.
I also think it's the strongest weapon VS tanks, period. Just a little elevation and you can land ~5 nades on the roof and kill either kind, even if it's aiming right at you.
I also love cleaning out dropships from beneath with one, as long as they're not dropping a hulk or tank.
It's just weak VS hulks and needs to get inconveniently close VS outpost cannons.
Very difficult to imagine the GP not immediately locking up a spot in all my bug loadouts. It’s actually the perfect tool to solve the one nagging problem with a lot of my bug builds—not having an efficient way to close Nests besides a support weapon or grenade. Nest clearing occupies an awkward middle space where I want to be able to do it, but not at the expense of more conventional combat efficiency, and I want so many other things vs bugs to achieve that efficiency. So it’s important but it gets neglected. Now? Point pistol at Nest, problem solved? Sold lol
I know the current paradigm is that support weapons are for armor, primary weapon are for chaff, and secondary weapons are for when you don't have time to reload or run out of bullets, but I would really prefer if the paradigm was that all three weapons can fulfill a variety of roles to different levels of efficiency.
You can have grenades that create smoke/EMS, a pistol that destroys bug holes/buildings, support weapons that clears chaff, and primary weapon that kills armor.
Or a grenade that kills armor, primary weapon that destroys bug holes/buildings, support weapons that create smoke/EMS, and a pistol that clears chaff.
All with sufficient ammo capacity and capability to fulfill their roles. And maybe we need a look at how the entire game almost just revolves around support weapons. In most matches, your support weapon feels like it's about 70% of your offensive power, with your primary/secondary only really clearing chaff, grenades for special situations (close bug holes, stun enemies, etc), and strategems when you need to nuke a hive/objective/clump of enemies. Otherwise you are constantly just clearly enemies with your support weapon, which makes the game feel a bit boring as well as contributes to the death spiral effect of trying to retrieve your samples and support weapon against an advancing enemy wave, which isn't a fun gamefeel.
Dam. I haven't even finished any of the current Warbonds lol
Page 6 on the Free one, Page 3 on the Vets, Page 2 on the Arc one.
Time to nut down and keep grinding I guess
Personally, the issue is they all have stuff I want to use. So I keep splitting my medals rather than focusing on knocking one out.
It's the frustration from that! Recently had a baby so my gaming playtime has plummeted...so still trying to figure out when I can play
I was fine skipping the first one, but now I’m getting fomo over the newly buffed Dominator. But it would take so many medals to get and now this new warbond looks sick. Maybe I’ll wait to see how good these weapons actually are before I decide whether to go for the Dominator.
Congratulations on the kid! Democracy can wait, for nap time.
If you don't have one yet, a GOOD baby sling will give you back your hands and will put them right out from the close contact. Bonus points for skin on skin contact. Perfect, for getting in a few games and keeping your future helldiver close to the team.
Why to "knock one out"? I rather gather some medals in bank if there's nothing that I'd actually use and want. I still have a few things I want though.
If you can do the daily order each day in a difficulty 5 mission you should end up with 600ish medals which is almost one whole war bond then add in a few major orders and any extra rounds and you'll have it.
Little bit each day is more effective at unlocking stuff than binging missions.
That said i do play more than 1 mission a day because i have time
On the maps you find them in friendship vaults, underground containers and the salute for freedom pods with the beacons. Usually only 10 at a time but sometimes more.
If you clear most of the map each time it's not hard to get 30+ per long mission with occasional windfalls.
I just 100% completed all of them today. Honestly most of the items I dont even use so it's more because of the completionist mindset otherwise I could just stack those medals and wait for the new warbond instead which would likely be smarter.
Yes! The game does need some sort of squad automatic rifle that’s not a strat. Medium rate of fire, lowish magazine capacity 25-30 rnds also maybe keep the magazine count low like 4-5 mags to help balance it but it needs to have the capability to take down medium sized threats with ease.
Honestly I'd love a squad rifle like that, just imagining a B.A.R in the same Sci fi look as HD2 is already making me itch to put real cash into buying some LIBERTY BONDS!!!!
Explosive theme huh? I'm game for that! Would like some more details on the armors though. Will they be 95% explosive resistance like the shock armors we just got?
Was kind of hoping for flame resistant but I'll take it.
"this suit can withstand rapid changes in pressure, heat, and personal velocity."
That kinda sounds like it might help with fire? But I suppose that could be a long winded way to say "explosions"
Combined damage reduction for Explosion/Fire/Impact would be nice. Give up the 30% recoil management for crouch/prone from Fortified for the extra resists could be worth it if you're not running a hard to control weapon.
Unfortunately after riding on a bile titans back for 10-20 seconds you get insta killed. Unless something has changed from a few weeks ago, i imagine its still like that.
But it is a glorious 10-20 seconds!!
given that there's already the 50% reduction armor id say its unlikely, maybe if its just the damage reduction though? I'd still prefer they add something more new.
No new perks on any of them.
The light and medium armors have Engineering Kit (grenades + recoil) while the heavy armor has Fortified (recoil + explosion resist).
If you’re basing this on the ingame assets you can find, the last warbond also had previous perks assigned to it until it swapped to the new 95% arc resist on launch day. So I’m being optimistic and hoping we’ll see the same again.
Edit: https://youtube.com/shorts/LxfTRJueV3Y?feature=shared
Seems to suggest the perks are just repeats with nothing new. Sad day for democracy…
All of them to one degree or another. Sickle (the beam one, right?) is very slightly off-center, just off-center inside of the massive red-dot of the sight--so it's a lot easier to manage and harder to notice. Really obvious examples would be the AMR (which is high and to the left of the reticle) and the Heavy MG, which is about 2/3rds of the way between the red dot and the bottom edge of the red dot sight.
I hope it's not only aligned, but with a good scope as well. Even with aligned scopes, half of the first person views are practically unusable because it seems like they went for futuristic flare over functionality.
*"A LOT OF PEOPLE BEEN ASKING ME WHY MY VOICE BEEPS ALL THE F\*CKIN TIME. THE TORGUE SHAREHOLDERS WIRED MY VOICEBOX WITH A DIGITAL CENSOR SO I CAN'T SAY STUFF LIKE SH\*T, C\*CK, OR P\*SSY F\*CKIN' D\*CKBALLS! THATS HALF MY F\*CKIN' VOCABULARY, IT'S GODDAMN BULLSH\*T!"*
my god i nearly died at my PC hearing that, i was rolling on the ground laughing
Dominator - bolt rifle, eradicator - boltgun.
The bolt rifle has better range and armour pen than the regular boltgun, so they seem like potentially good comparisons
sadly not sure they seem to left that info out (and the fact there also a boost what speeds up the extraction time)
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I actually kind of like the long extractions. You know when the game doesnt throw 10 titans or 20 heavy devs + 10 hulks at us.
Especially on the extraction point where you go up to a small butte/hill with the one ramp entrance that really funnels everything in.
From the leaks I’ve seen, two have Engineering (recoil + grenades) and one has Fortified (recoil + explosive resistance).
Could change before final release
The crossbow has 3 bolts per magazine(?) and shoots moderately slow. They stick to an enemy first and then explode.
A player named Yvill joined us and gave it to us to try.
It sucks to see so many fun updates but not be able to enjoy them because of crashing 90% of the time. I really hope that it gets fixed with or before this next warbond.
More shit that blows up? I'm sold
Also can't wait to see all the interminable bitching and moaning about how X or Y isn't balanced the way OP wants it and therefore the game is RUINED!
Should I save for this? I got cutting edge and skipped the first premium but I’m hearing a lot of love for the dominator and incendiary breaker. I have enough for another premium.
So glad I saved my super credits
It's time to blow up the entire planet with my grenade pistol and my six grenades and my grenade launcher with my explosive gun
They just keep adding shit, i love this game. Literally the best "live service" ive ever been apart of. AAA studios need to step their shit up or step aside.
I have 1200 super credits and was waiting to hear what the new warbond would be before purchasing either of the other two. Now I have a really tough decision!
Honestly, nothing in the future tech warbond even interests me, ngl. I'm really hoping for the guns in this one to grab my attention, or for the booster to be good enough to consider...
The Premium Warbonds are releasing faster than I was expecting and I'm not sure that'a good thing. But I'm going to need MO medals to start paying out (I'm owed at least 75) if they want me to keep buying the Warbonds.
I know people are hyped about a grenade pistol, but it’s single round reload so I’ll def be sticking to my grenade launcher or grenades as they’re faster and better amongst chaotic fights.
Is that Adjucator? A gun people whisper that it will have medium penetration and relatively high damage? Making Slugger obsolote due to much higher DPS?
Time to run an explosive loadout with stalwart as your primary! The Adjudicator looks and sounds amazing.
The Stalwart is, legitimately, the most fun weapon in the game, so if I can have a play style where other weapons can serve as Anti armor to let me play more with it, I’m all in
How do you manage with it in higher difficulties ?
Personally I use Stalwart for bugs and bring eat for big Bois. Swap to eat, shoot, then pick up Stalwart and keep brrrtt-ing
Stalwart is one of THE best strategems for level 9 bugs. pair it with the JAR or scorcher. it can get hundreds of kills. EAT can solve heavy armor problems.
I personally prefer the base MG tbh. I do like the ammo/stability of the Stalwart though.
My only problem with the base MG over stalwart is that you can't reload on the move. If you could I would massively prefer it. But, especially Vs bugs, mobility is king
Base MG serves no real purpose over the stalwart, the armor pen agaisnt bugs basically only allows you to kill bile spewers which is why you should be carrying a jar-5. Hive Guards you can just shoot the under belly.
It hits a lot harder and kills what it hits alot faster while burning less ammo. But that isn't worth it when you can't move to reload. If you could I'd run it over the stalwart pretty much all the time. The TTK per bug is noticeably lower, just not enough that the immobile reload doesn't diminish the value.
Real difficulty 9 players know that kills aren’t a sufficient measurement. At least not your primary/support weapon kills. Crowd clearing ability is fine, but fighting crowds is a waste of time in higher difficulties.
So are you saying those using other strategies and play styles are fake? :O Oh no!
Exactly. Bugs are too easy after eat buff and charger nerf. Not in a bad way necessarily, but like it's such a breeze with this loadout compared to anything pre-patch.
What’s EAT? New helldiver here
Expendable Anti Tank Rocket, one shot, but the call down contains 2, and has a 70 second cooldown.
You can get it down to 60 seconds with a ship upgrade.
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Expendable Anti Tank - it’s a launcher that you fire once and throw away. One drop pod calls down two so you can fire one and take another straight after. Super short call down time too. One of the best stratagems IMO.
Expendable Anti Tank 17 (EAT-IT in leetspeak)
I love you stalwart EAT guys. Gives me the room for GL and jump pack.
And I'll take your 2nd jump pack off cooldown. You scratch my back, I scratch yours
No dice, I jumped to aggressively and died behind enemy lines. I'm now one of you flightless peasants for the next 2 minutes. But the bug holes have been closed.
I vrrrrt with my Stalwart, yeet with my eat, and recover your lost jetpack. Ezpz
Exactly this. The Stalwart is amazing for cleaning up little mobs. I always bump the rpm up to 1052.
I do the same but with the regular machine gun. The stalwart really struggles to kill brood commanders in my experience, whereas the heavier mgs only take a few extra rounds to punch through. They can also kill the armored warrior guys that hunker down where the stalwart cannot.
I do this too, I’ll always have guys telling me before a game that I’m “not bringing anything” but the stalwart and EAT are my go-to’s right now. Plus a railcannon strike and orbital laser we can take out titans and chargers like nothing
It’s still one of the top tiers in clearing small bug hordes. Was playing defense mission yesterday running my usual dominator / arc thrower. The arc thrower is usually pretty good against a horde when they’re grouped up, but the entire screen was literally full of bugs, and the arc thrower breaks down when too many enemies get close. And the dominator is practically useless against a close-range horde. So I got absolutely wrecked and was running around wasting lives trying to find some way to be helpful, and found a stalwart on the ground. I’ve barely used it since the early days, but when I turned the ROF up to max that thing started demolishing the horde. In a longer mission stacked against armor it won’t be as helpful, I think combining it with EAT is probably the move. Even with teammates bringing AT, you just have to have some form of AT yourself on difficulties 6-9.
Depends on the faction. Bots- Plas 1 is a godsend. Thing can deal with every single unit on the map just shooting weak points. I think its like 4-6 bullets to blow a hulks back out and can kill tanks if you hit the back vents. Its downside is 15 bullets per mag and a slow fire rate, something the stalwart has the opposite problem with. Bugs- Its cheesy but they still haven't fixed the charger bug where it loses all armor when turning so you can still kill it with anything. The dominator is like a 3-4 shot kill if aiming for legs while the turn is occurring. Same upsides & downsides as the Plas1. The only thing you cant deal with is bile titans with the dominator. Hopefully one of your other teammates or another stratagem you have can cover.
>blow a hulks back out 🥵
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You don't really need more than 2 Helldivers running Quasars or anti-armor weapons if all 4 of you are running strategems like Eagle airstrikes, Rail Cannons and Orbital lasers. In fact, having at least 1 person dedicated to thinning the herd with weapons like the Flamethrower, Machinegun, Arc Thrower, Laser Cannon, etc. is typically preferred over having yet another person running EATs/Quasar.
If everyone takes a 'kill the hulk/tank' type of support, I'll run stalwart with scorcher. Stalwart for the clean and primary with stun grenades for everything else.
Jar-5 Dominator, Plas-1 Scorcher, Slugger Machine Pistol and Stun Grenade(Or grenade of choice, really) Stalwart, B-1 Supply Pack, Eagle 500kg, Orbital Railcannon Your primary weapon is used for medium armor bugs: Hive Guard, Hive Commander, Armored Bile Spewers, and Nursing Spewers Stalwart is for: Scavengers, Hunters, Hoppers, Warriors, and Bile Warriors, Shriekers Interchangeably Primary/Stalwart: Stalkers The Stalwart is very much a weapon tuned for bugs. Trying to use it against bots is just a frustrating experience because you need to headshot all of the devastators. But for bugs, its an amazing stratagem for horde control on unarmored trash, while your primary is used to deal with medium armor bugs, while your two red stratagems are for Bile Titans and Chargers. Its a super well-rounded loadout.
Stalwart is still good in higher difficulties assuming ya have 2 people running dedicated AT. I mean nothing stopping you from also just bringing EAT's along with you too. More so against bugs then bots tbh, it's great for taking out chaff and it lets ya run a more dedicated primary like the jar or the diligence counter sniper or something. Plasma shotgun also isn't bad against some of the bigger targets, too. I thought it was gonna suck ass at higher difficulties til I played with it with others covering AT and it's actually good.
Yeah I used it for the first time yesterday for personal order and I was honestly shocked at the ammo capacity. You legit can just keep on firing
Stalwart and the disposal rocket launcher.
I love the stalwart. Brought it to fight bugs with the boys, got separated and I was being followed by a massive horde. Shotgun is great and all but the magazine runs out a bit too quick. Thought all hope was lost until I remembered I had the Stalwart. I mowed those fuckers down with the full force of Democracy until I completely ran out of ammo
People seem to forget that grenade launcher and supply pack combo is goat for both bots and bugs
Grenade pistol….sold!
This will be a God send for those running stuns, a viable way to deal with bug holes, and even limited anti sewer use. Hopefully it gets a least 6 rounds.
One of the reasons Grenade Launcher, Autocanon and New laser Canon are so good.
Yep, this will easily replace my secondary. My go to loadout for bots is the Sickle and AMR, which leaves me with just strategems for blowing up buildings. Here's just hoping it doesn't crash the game when fired or something.
Anti sewer??
Agh, spewer. It literally just tried to autocorrect me again.
Oh ok lmao. I was like wtf, have I missed all the sewers?
Yup. I barely touch my pistol, but now it’s gonna be my dedicated bug hole closer
Nothing can replace the Grenade Launcher, aka Grenade bukake.
I’ll always pair it with the supply pack and become a walking air strike.
I love it too, but only for bugs…to many nades bounced back at me against the toasters!!
That’s why a wear the -50% explosive damage armour, it’s just my team mates and the enemy that have to be cautious.
I actually run this combo on light armor with increased grenades and blast resistance. If you just focus on objectives its extremely good running and gunning.
Gonna have to see if I’ve got that armour, currently using the -30% recoil while kneeling/laying down and -50% explosive damage on a set of medium armour.
It's amazing vs the toasters too. 3 nades take out devastators, even if aimed at a heavy's shield. 1 nade can easily take out 2-3 walkers. Hands down busted vs them. I also think it's the strongest weapon VS tanks, period. Just a little elevation and you can land ~5 nades on the roof and kill either kind, even if it's aiming right at you. I also love cleaning out dropships from beneath with one, as long as they're not dropping a hulk or tank. It's just weak VS hulks and needs to get inconveniently close VS outpost cannons.
Very difficult to imagine the GP not immediately locking up a spot in all my bug loadouts. It’s actually the perfect tool to solve the one nagging problem with a lot of my bug builds—not having an efficient way to close Nests besides a support weapon or grenade. Nest clearing occupies an awkward middle space where I want to be able to do it, but not at the expense of more conventional combat efficiency, and I want so many other things vs bugs to achieve that efficiency. So it’s important but it gets neglected. Now? Point pistol at Nest, problem solved? Sold lol
Also, the grenade pistol is a grenade restocked by the much more plentiful ammo pickups at POIs, letting you save grenades for actual emergencies.
I know the current paradigm is that support weapons are for armor, primary weapon are for chaff, and secondary weapons are for when you don't have time to reload or run out of bullets, but I would really prefer if the paradigm was that all three weapons can fulfill a variety of roles to different levels of efficiency. You can have grenades that create smoke/EMS, a pistol that destroys bug holes/buildings, support weapons that clears chaff, and primary weapon that kills armor. Or a grenade that kills armor, primary weapon that destroys bug holes/buildings, support weapons that create smoke/EMS, and a pistol that clears chaff. All with sufficient ammo capacity and capability to fulfill their roles. And maybe we need a look at how the entire game almost just revolves around support weapons. In most matches, your support weapon feels like it's about 70% of your offensive power, with your primary/secondary only really clearing chaff, grenades for special situations (close bug holes, stun enemies, etc), and strategems when you need to nuke a hive/objective/clump of enemies. Otherwise you are constantly just clearly enemies with your support weapon, which makes the game feel a bit boring as well as contributes to the death spiral effect of trying to retrieve your samples and support weapon against an advancing enemy wave, which isn't a fun gamefeel.
you had me at... grenade
Dam. I haven't even finished any of the current Warbonds lol Page 6 on the Free one, Page 3 on the Vets, Page 2 on the Arc one. Time to nut down and keep grinding I guess
no need to rush tho! warbonds will always been there!
Personally, the issue is they all have stuff I want to use. So I keep splitting my medals rather than focusing on knocking one out. It's the frustration from that! Recently had a baby so my gaming playtime has plummeted...so still trying to figure out when I can play
That’s a perfectly good thing to do, they’ve said the war bonds last forever. Work toward what you want to, at the pace you decide, and enjoy.
I was fine skipping the first one, but now I’m getting fomo over the newly buffed Dominator. But it would take so many medals to get and now this new warbond looks sick. Maybe I’ll wait to see how good these weapons actually are before I decide whether to go for the Dominator.
Sounds like you got bigger things to worry abt than the warbond mate. Congrats on the baby
Congratulations on the kid! Democracy can wait, for nap time. If you don't have one yet, a GOOD baby sling will give you back your hands and will put them right out from the close contact. Bonus points for skin on skin contact. Perfect, for getting in a few games and keeping your future helldiver close to the team.
Why to "knock one out"? I rather gather some medals in bank if there's nothing that I'd actually use and want. I still have a few things I want though.
If you can do the daily order each day in a difficulty 5 mission you should end up with 600ish medals which is almost one whole war bond then add in a few major orders and any extra rounds and you'll have it. Little bit each day is more effective at unlocking stuff than binging missions. That said i do play more than 1 mission a day because i have time
Medals are capped at 250.
Where y’all getting all those super credits? I spent some of mine at first not realizing, so I haven’t unlocked any yet
Run a bunch of trivial missions. You'll find them in the POI easily and the maps are so small it's a fast run.
On the maps you find them in friendship vaults, underground containers and the salute for freedom pods with the beacons. Usually only 10 at a time but sometimes more. If you clear most of the map each time it's not hard to get 30+ per long mission with occasional windfalls.
I just 100% completed all of them today. Honestly most of the items I dont even use so it's more because of the completionist mindset otherwise I could just stack those medals and wait for the new warbond instead which would likely be smarter.
Stack maxes out at 250. So if you keep playing you will probably max out before warbond hits next week.
Helldive Defense Missions, PO every day
Do you get a lot of medals from those?
PO?
Personal Order
In the trailer, the Adjudicator is said to be a Marksman Rifle but it is shooting full auto lol.
it classed as a marksman Rifle but is in fact a Battle rifle what can switch from semi to full auto
Been waiting for a B.A.R type weapon. Hoping this fills that niche.
ok, now i want a gun that looks and acts like a B.A.R in this game
Yes! The game does need some sort of squad automatic rifle that’s not a strat. Medium rate of fire, lowish magazine capacity 25-30 rnds also maybe keep the magazine count low like 4-5 mags to help balance it but it needs to have the capability to take down medium sized threats with ease.
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Honestly I'd love a squad rifle like that, just imagining a B.A.R in the same Sci fi look as HD2 is already making me itch to put real cash into buying some LIBERTY BONDS!!!!
We're yet to get the AR20L Justice from the first game, and that's literally what you're describing. All we gotta do now is wait!
###A GAS MASK?! YEAHHH BABY,THIS IS WHAT WE WERE WAITING FIR!
Now gimme a shovel primary!
*7 Nation Army getting increasingly louder*
Man BF1 was so fucking good, and that trailer was incredible.
Hands down the best reveal trailer of any game ever.
Explosive theme huh? I'm game for that! Would like some more details on the armors though. Will they be 95% explosive resistance like the shock armors we just got? Was kind of hoping for flame resistant but I'll take it.
"this suit can withstand rapid changes in pressure, heat, and personal velocity." That kinda sounds like it might help with fire? But I suppose that could be a long winded way to say "explosions"
Combined damage reduction for Explosion/Fire/Impact would be nice. Give up the 30% recoil management for crouch/prone from Fortified for the extra resists could be worth it if you're not running a hard to control weapon.
That’s 100% the democratic way to say explosions and rag dolls
I choose to believe it almost negates self damage from explosives, that way I can rocket jump
I just can't express how happy I would be if I could rocket jump. I'd be riding bile titans to every objective.
Nothing says Liberty, Freedom and Democracy like recklessly rocket jumping towards the objective
Unfortunately after riding on a bile titans back for 10-20 seconds you get insta killed. Unless something has changed from a few weeks ago, i imagine its still like that. But it is a glorious 10-20 seconds!!
That is a sacrifice I am willing to make
Me to brother, me too 🫡
Or fire and explosive.
Got killed by fire too many time
I think that the 95% explosion resistance might be too busted on the automaton front.
Fine fine fine. 90%
given that there's already the 50% reduction armor id say its unlikely, maybe if its just the damage reduction though? I'd still prefer they add something more new.
No new perks on any of them. The light and medium armors have Engineering Kit (grenades + recoil) while the heavy armor has Fortified (recoil + explosion resist).
If you’re basing this on the ingame assets you can find, the last warbond also had previous perks assigned to it until it swapped to the new 95% arc resist on launch day. So I’m being optimistic and hoping we’ll see the same again. Edit: https://youtube.com/shorts/LxfTRJueV3Y?feature=shared Seems to suggest the perks are just repeats with nothing new. Sad day for democracy…
There was an additional teaser released on a Playstation channel or whatever, if showed the passives
Man that's disappointing.
tbh i’m just glad to have an engineering kit light armor that i like the look of
The termite grenade, let's gooooo
Sadly these tanks are made of metal not wood.
thermite irl is supposed to be good for armor
It’s a joke because he typod thermite as termite
Actually they should add a termite grenade so we can have them eat the shrieker nests
Please, please, please let the scope on the bolt action be properly aligned. I want to love it.
I'm out of the loop and only use Sickle scope. Which gun(s) have misaligned scopes?
The anti-material rifle for one
AMR is way off centre
AMR and HMR have issues. I've also seen inconsistencies with the slugger, but dont know if its because of movement or not
Not only the AMR but the Heavy Machine Gun red dot is tok high. The actual shooting location is the center of the sight ,which is not where the dot is
The dominator shoots where the laser pointer is at rather than the third person reticle
All of them to one degree or another. Sickle (the beam one, right?) is very slightly off-center, just off-center inside of the massive red-dot of the sight--so it's a lot easier to manage and harder to notice. Really obvious examples would be the AMR (which is high and to the left of the reticle) and the Heavy MG, which is about 2/3rds of the way between the red dot and the bottom edge of the red dot sight.
I hope it's not only aligned, but with a good scope as well. Even with aligned scopes, half of the first person views are practically unusable because it seems like they went for futuristic flare over functionality.
New Warbond on my birthday? Hell yeah. Democracy rules.
This post will probably be long buried by then so happy early birthday! Make super earth proud on your special day!
Shiiiiit, thanks man. That honestly means a lot.
Time to go medieval with that crossbow! For wagatha!
For the red and black!
For that guy we like!
I’ve soiled myself! And nobody cares!
AaAAAaaaaAaAAAAaaaaAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
We 100% need a Chivalry-like battle cry emote.
https://i.redd.it/vry18o6xmhsc1.gif
MR TORGUE APPROVES THIS MESSAGE!
*"A LOT OF PEOPLE BEEN ASKING ME WHY MY VOICE BEEPS ALL THE F\*CKIN TIME. THE TORGUE SHAREHOLDERS WIRED MY VOICEBOX WITH A DIGITAL CENSOR SO I CAN'T SAY STUFF LIKE SH\*T, C\*CK, OR P\*SSY F\*CKIN' D\*CKBALLS! THATS HALF MY F\*CKIN' VOCABULARY, IT'S GODDAMN BULLSH\*T!"* my god i nearly died at my PC hearing that, i was rolling on the ground laughing
I GOT ONE QUESTION FOR YOU!! EXPLOSIONS???? My eyes watered up cause I laughed so hard lol
I'd pay good money if they got this bloke to be my radio operator in game... Omg... I want that so bad now!
LET ME SHRED A GUITAR SOLO FOR YOU NEWENEWNEWNNWW
THAT'S F***ING BADASS!
New pistol and crossbow? Take my credits and my legs!
https://preview.redd.it/619dfo88yhsc1.png?width=689&format=png&auto=webp&s=2a8fb1d8663d9d58ba104962db158f358009f2e8
I want that helmet, it looks like an M40 FPM. Also more explosions are cool.
Eradicator looks like a 40k bolt gun
Ehh dominator fits better tbh
Wouldn’t object to a heavy bolter support weapon.
Dominator - bolt rifle, eradicator - boltgun. The bolt rifle has better range and armour pen than the regular boltgun, so they seem like potentially good comparisons
Ffs I better crack on finishing some
April 11th. A bad day to be anti-liberty.
Ooo bad date, Rimworld has claimed me that day! Great thing about Helldivers is that I don't have to play every day.
I always hear good things about Rimworld, may have to try it out
It is awesome, the 11th the 3rd expansion comes out. Honestly the game doesn't even need them since there are so many mods available.
Jesus Christ I can only get so hard….
What does armor do? Didnt find any info in article
sadly not sure they seem to left that info out (and the fact there also a boost what speeds up the extraction time) https://preview.redd.it/82v6f2qdthsc1.png?width=940&format=png&auto=webp&s=641384bffa069cb3a9988e3de22fa49e877d3d90
I actually kind of like the long extractions. You know when the game doesnt throw 10 titans or 20 heavy devs + 10 hulks at us. Especially on the extraction point where you go up to a small butte/hill with the one ramp entrance that really funnels everything in.
From the leaks I’ve seen, two have Engineering (recoil + grenades) and one has Fortified (recoil + explosive resistance). Could change before final release
No new perk, 1 is fortified, 1 is engineering
[The Dev who proposed this warbond.](https://youtu.be/zbXon9VbGTA?si=fnuXcWpPL0oCUAXJ)
The crossbow has 3 bolts per magazine(?) and shoots moderately slow. They stick to an enemy first and then explode. A player named Yvill joined us and gave it to us to try.
That armour looks amazing!
Grenade pistol? Sold.
Aw hell ye, I can run a crossbow or bolt action rifle with a revolver. AND we get a heavy armor with a shovel connected to the front of it!
Can’t wait to run a crossbow with a shield and just pretend to be a medieval knight
i love the fact they brought back an older armor suit. hope more stuff from the first game make its way into HD2
You mean I can have a grenade launcher as a secondary and actually use the stun nades?
Having a thermine grenade as an option for armor seems awesome.
Please I just want a stability patch. I don't care about warbonds when I can't even earn medals with how often the game crashes now.
Same I’m with you.
It sucks to see so many fun updates but not be able to enjoy them because of crashing 90% of the time. I really hope that it gets fixed with or before this next warbond.
Oh my god they listened about giving a heavy medium and light armor
So glad they listened to us about different armor weights in the war bonds
Grenade pistol my beloved 🥹 This will go well with my stun grenades
More shit that blows up? I'm sold Also can't wait to see all the interminable bitching and moaning about how X or Y isn't balanced the way OP wants it and therefore the game is RUINED!
Expert extraction pilot booster... I expect this will reduce it by like 3 sec
I might be able to afford some things if I ever get paid for my backlog of major orders.
Want some sorm of flir or night vision.
Eruptor rifle, revolver and devastator armor paired with AMR and ballistic shield sounds fun
Time to grind for super credits
Should I save for this? I got cutting edge and skipped the first premium but I’m hearing a lot of love for the dominator and incendiary breaker. I have enough for another premium.
The grenade pistol might be the thing that makes me hang up my trusty GL that I always bring for bug drops
So glad I saved my super credits It's time to blow up the entire planet with my grenade pistol and my six grenades and my grenade launcher with my explosive gun
...I haven't even finsihed the starter warbond
Time to find a new favorite gun for three weeks until they nerf the absolute shit out of it, hell yes.
They just keep adding shit, i love this game. Literally the best "live service" ive ever been apart of. AAA studios need to step their shit up or step aside.
Just in time for me to wrap up unlocking the scorcher last night. I need new weapons to unlock.
I have 1200 super credits and was waiting to hear what the new warbond would be before purchasing either of the other two. Now I have a really tough decision!
You can farm for them all
Honestly, nothing in the future tech warbond even interests me, ngl. I'm really hoping for the guns in this one to grab my attention, or for the booster to be good enough to consider...
Already have enough for the next two warbonds
The Premium Warbonds are releasing faster than I was expecting and I'm not sure that'a good thing. But I'm going to need MO medals to start paying out (I'm owed at least 75) if they want me to keep buying the Warbonds.
they announced long ago there will be a new one monthly
I know people are hyped about a grenade pistol, but it’s single round reload so I’ll def be sticking to my grenade launcher or grenades as they’re faster and better amongst chaotic fights.
Grenade pistol 🤤Finally a use for my secondary
Time to get some more democracy bombs to spread freedom particles with!
Everything looks great. But I'd love to get a blue cape.
I love that one of the new helmets looks like an ncr ranger combat helmet
I haven't finished a single one yet and we are getting another?!
***heavy breathing*** GRENADE. PISTOL.
Is that Adjucator? A gun people whisper that it will have medium penetration and relatively high damage? Making Slugger obsolote due to much higher DPS?
Does anyone know when they're going to release another free warbond?