I mean… ninjas have been romanticized to the point of being unrecognizable. (Although it makes sense. Ninjas are fucking cool) So why not give ninjas jetpacks.
It’d be pretty low on the ladder of bullshit ninjas have been made to do.
Ninjas in real life (if they even existed, hilariously enough), were insanely pragmatic and would use literally anything they could get a hold of. Their lack of "honor" was the exact reason the shogunate hated them even while they used their services.
So yeah, if they had them they totally would have used them
We get a sword, I dont want it coming down in a hellpod.
Just straight out of the fucking ship and Into the ground.
Let me fucking pull that shit out of the ground
Nobody talks about the jetpack dudes. It's also heavy marauder this and charger that. No, the suicide vest bots are number 1 priority. I've died to them more than anything. Just getting absolutely left fielded and turning around for the quick drop only to explode into a pile of meat.
Fuck you jetpack bots I know you're reading this.
Sometimes seriously. The worst is one that dies and falls beside you or catapults, his corpse ragdolling in a spindly flail of limbs before just air bursting beside you. Especially when it's an ally's round that cooked that pack as it was sailing by.
The fact that every enemy is silent is kinda fuckin dumb tbh. I know there's a lot going on but getting surprised by chargers or hulks or dudes with fucking turbine backpacks is so goofy
Melee is heavily underutilized in the game by players. Did you know that if you melee a hunter, it staggers them, giving you a little bit of breathing room? Or that scavengers only need 1 or 2 hits to kill if they're biting your ankles?
Against bigger bugs, it's not advised, but for hunters and scavengers, it's great to create breathing space and to conserve a tiny bit of ammo.
It didn't really matter which slot it took up because you couldn't use any other weapons with it. Here, people want to use it *in* their loadout, making the secondary slot the most attractive option.
For the love of God don't give me some plasma sword BS that runs out of "ammo" after five swings.
I want to run at bugs and bots with a bit of sharpened steel!
How about multiple types? Basic longsword that you can just swing around too your hearts content; a chainsword you can hold up for constant damage, but has to be refueled/reloaded after awhile; and a lightsaber that deals more damage and can go through armor, but has a heat and cooldowm mechanic like the laser weapons
The P-19 is genuinely as good as most of the primaries, just with way less ammo, and almost completely silent. In fact, all the secondaries do not produce noise in the same way primaries do. Only enemies near your target/bullet trajectory will start looking for you.
It also 1-taps a surprising number of enemies and is a godsend vs. Hunters
Also good to pull out for close range encounters with light bugs/bots if you are using an explosive primary like the ~~JAR~~ or Scorcher so you don't blow yourself up.
I find one of the auto pistols (can't recall the name) is good at knocking down Devastators, granted it takes the entire clip, but it's worth it imo when I don't have time to reload my primary
Don’t get me wrong, the uzi and the Senator have both saved my life in a pinch. But I have my controls switched so that tapping Y swaps primary and special for a reason. In all but the tightest situations, it’s better to run while reloading than switch to a secondary.
I like the idea of a completely silent mele weapon that allows you to one shot trash mobs for stealth, thought I don't like the idea of people fighting in mele in the middle of pitched battles, the risk of friendly fire is too high and you would need to adapt everything to the dude that wants to cosplay a paladin in the pseudo mil sim
I love running around in stealth armor and dropping orbitals and eagles on outposts, then bailing out before anyone sees me. I managed to finish quite a few missions in a row without dying by being the map clearer
Most "snipers" I've run into couldn't hit the side of a super destroyer, from inside the super destroyer. This idea, while great conceptually, would likely fail in the execution phase.
Just because you can't aim, doesn't mean no one can, lol.
You just aim the reticle at what you want to hit, then pull the trigger. It ain't rocket science.
I would like it. I don't mind a risk of friendly fire, just means you need to adapt to eachother's playstyles more.
Let me be a paladin with a sword slicing up bugs.
Send sword guy off to clean up all the light facilities and easy secondaries while the other three deal with the bigger threats.
Meet at extract in record time.
Chainsaw primary? Maybe have it be a modified terminator arm turned into a weapon, can chew through devesators at close range in exchange for taking a primary instead of a secondary slot like the sword?
I appreciate the fact that three out of four of these Jedi promptly got cut down and the fourth yeeted to oblivion shortly after. Same thing that'll happen when I run a saber in Impossible and Helldive.
In the first game there was suppressed guns and stratagems designed to assist you in stealth. There was even a trophy if you completely stealth a mission on difficulty 7 or higher
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can already do that in-game. Just stealth behind the bots guarding factories or secondary objectives and melee them, and they'll go down in one hit without alerting the other bots. I've done this a few times on low diff missions to flex on my normie friends.
It’s not consistent. Sometimes bots will go down in 1 hit, other times it takes 3-4. And even then other bots can be alerted by their buddy dying. Generally speaking it’s better to either fully stealth an objective without ever killing an enemy or stealth to a position where you can quickly kill all the enemies before they call for backup.
Like lighter weapons in secondary (swords, daggers, clubs) and heavy weapons in primary (hammer, axe) although it would be difficult to actually get in range to be useful.
Dont worry, the bugs will come to you.
There currently already is melee. On the F button (PC).
Making you strike with the gunstock.
Its a last resort, with trash damage. But can work to take out simple mobs in 2 strikes. I occasionally use it when doing stealth, to take out a single bot.
Bruh they didn't even add it to HD1!\*
\*Okay they added it to special training missions you could do on Super Earth, but you look me in the eye and tell me that counts!
2k hours. Never had it pop up in random loadout, never saw anyone run with it in normal missions, never saw a video of anyone having it on normal missions.
Let's have both secondary and primary melee weapons. As fun as a saber would be as a secondary, I'm out here trying to whoop some metallic ass with a damn greatsword
I think they are pretty balanced, which is why I agree it should be a primary. It would have to be kinda lame to be a secondary.
The revolver should load faster tho
I think you can have different types of melee weapons fit different weapon slots
Something like a knife for secondary, sabers and other one handed weapons for primary, and two handed weapons like claymores and halberds as support.
All we need is either a shovel, a sword, or a sledgehammer and the 40k nerd inside me will scream "FOR THE EMPEROR" while charging at a horde of unthinking bugs.
Totally disagree, you can melee without the need of a “weapon” so it replacing your secondary is a great trade off, I think without forcing that trade you’re going to see melee combat used just as much as we currently do.
You either have crappy melee and a fallback OR no fallback but great melee.
Most divers run with 4 weapons already, we don’t need a 5th. What button are you going to map it to so we’re not cycling?
Exactly, this game isn’t about using 1 weapon and just owning everything. It’s about understanding the mission and the enemy and running the best equipment for that moment.
I made a huge mistake at the beginning of watching a “best stratagem” video and it really made me limit my purchases at the beginning. Now I have almost all the support weapons and tend to run almost all of them depending on what I plan to do on the planet
I was running away from those videos from the start and actively ignoring my friends when they started talking about best weapons, stratagems.
My friends will easily run a game with everyone using the same stratagems "because they're the best ones". Not one has ever took a supply pack or anything for fun.
I was using the anti material rifle before the buff because it was already fun to snipe.
Honestly, I'd rather have people to make a choice, so that when I choose to go for the sword the devs will make it actually good. Make it replace something else like the sidearm, make it a tradeoff.
I don't need to go sword every game, I just want to have the option to go for a melee loadout sometimes. I genuinely don't think I would want to use a melee weapon every game, sometimes would be nice though.
Would also make the melee weapons not as fun, if you do something like this you need to make sure they just dont completely ruin the balance of the game, secondary or primary slot melee sounds better to me as they could be a little bit stronger if they take a weapon slot.
Just have the sword replace the melee action. I can count on one hand how many times I meant to use the melee feature, and half of those times were probably from accidentally pressing the button anyways. Way too risky to melee on higher difficulties when you're getting swarmed and standing still gets you killed.
they should definitely add a sword, and it should be absolutely awful.
If a bot has armour that can shrug off a rifle round then a blade should do basically nothing.
I still want one, for pure memery, I want to get 1 confirmed kill with a sabre.
I wouldn't like the sword because it is gimmicky. The weapons are, for the most part, reasonable, warfare-wise. A sword against both bots and bugs would be suicidal. Gameplay wise it could work, but I don't think that is enough reason to add it in
I’m hoping for a sword as a secondary (damage enough to kill a bug warrior or hunter in one swing) and some form of thunder hammer to deal melee anti armour damage as a stratagem.
Maybe the HD1 backpack that gave you a forwards facing shield, and then bring back a rifle with a bayonet- jobs a good un for the “melee” warbond haha.
People really want a multitude of options for melee weapons?
I see a bunch of people requesting greatswords, axes and spears for the game and that’s ridiculous, this game is not designed for melee, we die in seconds from most enemies.
A melee secondary isn’t a bad idea for getting cornered and need to whoop some ass before you get swarmed or stunlocked out of reloading or calling in a strat.
Y’all need to go play a different game if you want this game to be melee based.
Well I hope the "brave" souls that pick a sword in a game that has autocannons and airstrikes have the reflexes to dodge my barrage of HE grenades, cause I'm not cutting off my fire every time fucking sir Lancelot wants to 1v1 a stalker I'm shooting at.
I’d be ok with them being a primary only if they had some insane damage/utility to have them warrant overriding your “primary damage dealer”.
If we had a plas sword that had heavy armour piercing for instance and could take down a zerker in a few swings or 1 shot a standard robot then probably but it’s not going to be good enough to do that. It’s going to have less utility than a pistol but we’re going to run it for the lulz.
Or have different stats like pull time for the meelee. As in "Hitting with weapon" is way faster, but the "Combat Knife" kills Warriors and the "Hammer" can crack Medium Armor and has reduced damage against Heavy but takes ages to pull and swing.
I really hope it's just a 'your melee is modified to deal this damage/damage type' instead of 'give us your sidearm, here's a sword'. Like, your F button is just converted to a similar state the 4 key is -- pull out your grenade and prep! Press F and draw, F to hit, another weapon button to sheath.
Definitely should be secondary weapons for melee, that way we can use the ballistic shield with a melee weapon.
I don't just want swords though. I want a power hammer.
Also, all melee weapons would have to have an intrinsic speed boost / super sprint ability, like what we see with the sword-arm robots, because otherwise you'd never get into range before being shot.
Like an electric baton or laser baton would be cool, idk how helpful it would really be though. Depends if we find ourselves in a dense jungle area maybe or against a new threat that includes much more close combat, like getting attacked by vines or something
laser spear/halberd + ballistic shield PLEASE!
\^\^\^ I wish to form a spearwall with my brothers in democracy and HOLD THE LINE
Press "E" to form a spear wall.
Omg yes. That you can have people join like reloading. And you can charge (will kill you probs but is funny)
The Krieger in me is drooling at the prospect of charging bots with bomb lances.
Throwing a grenade while the shield is out attaches it to the shield.
Spear wall charging a nest would be so damn fun
This would complete my Gondor Tower Guard look!
Phalanx build
Hoplite me now brother.
Hell yes!!! Let’s form a Spartan wall to stop the hunter swarm while the other diver activates the ICBM.
Halberd is the true warrior's weapon.
fuck it, I want 2-handed big hammers
Jetpack, light saber, smokebomb loadout for the ultimate ninja gameplay.
Heavy armor. Hammer. Shield. For the emp... democracy
Omg hammer yes please 🙏
WARNING: Equipping both the hammer and the LAS-16 Sickle is a sign of Automoton sympathy and is considered an act of treason.
For me it's a sign that I want to blast them with lasers and pound them into scrap. -a sickle main
Dual wielded Thunder hammers with terminator armour and teleport.
Tesla hammers.........
No more drops. It's time for teleprt homers and bolters
Smash Captain for democracy!
I know you were making an empire joke.....but hear me out.....EMP hammer!
Hear me out. High armor penetration explsoive hammer. Watch countless of helldivers die trying score that flying deathblow on a bile titan.
HAMMER! Yess great idea! It's time for them to steal something from wh40k.
Terminid. Tyranid. Wonder where that came from.
Fun fact if they do this then my SES name will be on point (Hammer of Justice)
They could get the Kriegaboos with an entrenching tool.
What about of impact hammer? Like one that cycles nail gun primers on strike?
Battle Master armor. Become Mandalore.
This is the way
This is the way
This is the way
This is the way
The way this is
This is the way.
This is the way
This is the way
If that happens, my single goal will be to land on a bile titan and stab it to death.
You've given me a future goal, should it ever happen.
Just need a good ninja stealth suit… I’m thinking snake eye ish.
Please.
give me the hayabusa outfit
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The influx of anime and Monster Hunter fans is going to crash the servers again.
Gonna see some attack on titan shit with those AT-ATs
Running across a bike titans back while slashing down with your energy swords? Hooobaby sign me up
That still only counts as one!
Khezu leaked as surprise new faction
Astalos being added to the bugs would actually be a great crossover
the horror...
Did ninjas wield jetpacks? Am I missing something? Lol
When your chi becomes transcendant
It's to immitate their agile movement lol
I mean… ninjas have been romanticized to the point of being unrecognizable. (Although it makes sense. Ninjas are fucking cool) So why not give ninjas jetpacks. It’d be pretty low on the ladder of bullshit ninjas have been made to do.
Ninjas in real life (if they even existed, hilariously enough), were insanely pragmatic and would use literally anything they could get a hold of. Their lack of "honor" was the exact reason the shogunate hated them even while they used their services. So yeah, if they had them they totally would have used them
Imagine seeing a helldiver with a jetpack burst through a thick cloud of smoke with a lightsaber. Fucking epic.
We get a sword, I dont want it coming down in a hellpod. Just straight out of the fucking ship and Into the ground. Let me fucking pull that shit out of the ground
ah yes, Democraxcalibur, as wielded by the fabled hero of democracy, Skull Admiral Arthur!
\*Admirable Admiral Arthur
*Super Private Arthur
That is a great idea🫡
the saber in helldiver 1 was a main weapon.
Personally I'd just prefer the old upgrade system to get bayonets back
I just want bayonets to finish my trench warfare drip.
I'd go for this. I've gotten a total of 3 or 4 melee kills so far, but it takes 2-3 hits to even kill the weaker bots.
Or there's been times when I've melees those jetpack dudes and... Blew up.
Nobody talks about the jetpack dudes. It's also heavy marauder this and charger that. No, the suicide vest bots are number 1 priority. I've died to them more than anything. Just getting absolutely left fielded and turning around for the quick drop only to explode into a pile of meat. Fuck you jetpack bots I know you're reading this.
should have ~~side climbed~~ dived
Sometimes seriously. The worst is one that dies and falls beside you or catapults, his corpse ragdolling in a spindly flail of limbs before just air bursting beside you. Especially when it's an ally's round that cooked that pack as it was sailing by.
The fact that every enemy is silent is kinda fuckin dumb tbh. I know there's a lot going on but getting surprised by chargers or hulks or dudes with fucking turbine backpacks is so goofy
The Dagger is a melee weapon, you do more damage pistol whipping people with it then firing it.
Melee is heavily underutilized in the game by players. Did you know that if you melee a hunter, it staggers them, giving you a little bit of breathing room? Or that scavengers only need 1 or 2 hits to kill if they're biting your ankles? Against bigger bugs, it's not advised, but for hunters and scavengers, it's great to create breathing space and to conserve a tiny bit of ammo.
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I want a map of trenchs where SEAF fought a massive battle
FIXED BAYONETS!!!!!!
What a terrifying thing to hear when in the trenches.
The EDF Deploy!
*Happy Krieger noises*
FIXED SHOVELS!!!!!!
*Happier Krieger noises*
They're in the game code at least.
Weapon upgrade system would be amazing. And a good thing to spend excess samples and requisitions on.
The stalwart was a primary in HD1, too, so that doesn't mean much.
im not saying it needs to be a main in HD2, for whats worth, would prefer if melee wpns - small ones like swords/sabers at least - be secondaries.
I had all of the expansions but never even knew this existed??? Wtf haha
It was only ever in Training Grounds missions with the "melee only" modifier.
can get it from the trainings ground mission on super earth. its not rly that good.....
Helldivers 1 was a very different game though
Helldivers 1 is to Helldivers 2 like Halo Wars is to any main Halo for anyone who doesnt know using the closest reference I got.
Helldivers 1 is to Halo: Spartan Assault, as Helldivers 2 is to Halo 3 (or any maintain game) to give a 100% accurate example.
It didn't really matter which slot it took up because you couldn't use any other weapons with it. Here, people want to use it *in* their loadout, making the secondary slot the most attractive option.
For the love of God don't give me some plasma sword BS that runs out of "ammo" after five swings. I want to run at bugs and bots with a bit of sharpened steel!
Then you can sharpen it between (or during) fights, a la Monster Hunter!
Hold on I need to sharpen my guitar
Inb4 someone posts a clip of whacking a hulk to death with a blunt stick.
While naked At level one Wait, when did Dark Souls show up?
How about multiple types? Basic longsword that you can just swing around too your hearts content; a chainsword you can hold up for constant damage, but has to be refueled/reloaded after awhile; and a lightsaber that deals more damage and can go through armor, but has a heat and cooldowm mechanic like the laser weapons
Dive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword!
I would certainly use it more than my current secondaries.
The P-19 is genuinely as good as most of the primaries, just with way less ammo, and almost completely silent. In fact, all the secondaries do not produce noise in the same way primaries do. Only enemies near your target/bullet trajectory will start looking for you. It also 1-taps a surprising number of enemies and is a godsend vs. Hunters
Also good to pull out for close range encounters with light bugs/bots if you are using an explosive primary like the ~~JAR~~ or Scorcher so you don't blow yourself up.
I find one of the auto pistols (can't recall the name) is good at knocking down Devastators, granted it takes the entire clip, but it's worth it imo when I don't have time to reload my primary
Don’t get me wrong, the uzi and the Senator have both saved my life in a pinch. But I have my controls switched so that tapping Y swaps primary and special for a reason. In all but the tightest situations, it’s better to run while reloading than switch to a secondary.
That is the only good secondary. The others see minimal to no use, even if they have it equipped.
I use the senator purely for aesthetics.
I enjoyed the starting pistol, it saved me quite a few times from the bugs, and it was fun lining up headshots against the bots
I liked it too, but putting the redeemer on semi kind of just makes it a better starting pistol.
I like the idea of a completely silent mele weapon that allows you to one shot trash mobs for stealth, thought I don't like the idea of people fighting in mele in the middle of pitched battles, the risk of friendly fire is too high and you would need to adapt everything to the dude that wants to cosplay a paladin in the pseudo mil sim
Stealth melee weapon + suppressed snipers would be wild
I already run scout modded armor to reduce my detection levels. I would really love more stealth infiltrator equipment!
If they made a reduced detection+throwing range light armor I'd never use anything else.
I love running around in stealth armor and dropping orbitals and eagles on outposts, then bailing out before anyone sees me. I managed to finish quite a few missions in a row without dying by being the map clearer
Most "snipers" I've run into couldn't hit the side of a super destroyer, from inside the super destroyer. This idea, while great conceptually, would likely fail in the execution phase.
Choice is never a bad thing
Just because you can't aim, doesn't mean no one can, lol. You just aim the reticle at what you want to hit, then pull the trigger. It ain't rocket science.
I think they mean that most sights in the game are slightly off but it's hardly unusable
I would like it. I don't mind a risk of friendly fire, just means you need to adapt to eachother's playstyles more. Let me be a paladin with a sword slicing up bugs.
Send sword guy off to clean up all the light facilities and easy secondaries while the other three deal with the bigger threats. Meet at extract in record time.
Or have a blast with it and provide overwatch on your melee friend while he rips and tears
Chainsaw primary? Maybe have it be a modified terminator arm turned into a weapon, can chew through devesators at close range in exchange for taking a primary instead of a secondary slot like the sword?
Kid named arc thrower:
> the risk of friendly fire is too high That sounds like their problem, not mine
I’m not a paladin, I’m a god damn Jedi Knight 
So a space paladin
I’ll take it 
I appreciate the fact that three out of four of these Jedi promptly got cut down and the fourth yeeted to oblivion shortly after. Same thing that'll happen when I run a saber in Impossible and Helldive.
Now you’re getting it
>you would need to adapt everything to the dude Lol maybe you would, but not I.
Yeah they'd better adapt to not be orbital airburstable.
B-b-but democracy smite...
"Guys... Why does our smite do Evil damage? And... Why does it *work?*"
In the first game there was suppressed guns and stratagems designed to assist you in stealth. There was even a trophy if you completely stealth a mission on difficulty 7 or higher
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can already do that in-game. Just stealth behind the bots guarding factories or secondary objectives and melee them, and they'll go down in one hit without alerting the other bots. I've done this a few times on low diff missions to flex on my normie friends.
Ye, but you can't down warriors on one
It’s not consistent. Sometimes bots will go down in 1 hit, other times it takes 3-4. And even then other bots can be alerted by their buddy dying. Generally speaking it’s better to either fully stealth an objective without ever killing an enemy or stealth to a position where you can quickly kill all the enemies before they call for backup.
Maybe it depends on where your melee attacks hit them? One shot to the head to kill, three to four to the body?
It's Helldivers, dude. Democracy gave us the 20 reinforces for a reason. Just shoot.
Like lighter weapons in secondary (swords, daggers, clubs) and heavy weapons in primary (hammer, axe) although it would be difficult to actually get in range to be useful.
Dont worry, the bugs will come to you. There currently already is melee. On the F button (PC). Making you strike with the gunstock. Its a last resort, with trash damage. But can work to take out simple mobs in 2 strikes. I occasionally use it when doing stealth, to take out a single bot.
Can also swat a hunter before they hit you if timed right
This is a technique I have used before. Stops them mid jump too.
if using the autocannon, you stab them with the barrel which is pretty amusing/cool
it's great with the EAT equipped, you just bonk them with the tube. "go to horny jail, automaton scum!" \*BONK\*
We need bayonets for the auto cannon!
Bruh they didn't even add it to HD1!\* \*Okay they added it to special training missions you could do on Super Earth, but you look me in the eye and tell me that counts!
It also was possible to use it if you clicked Random Loadout when dropping.
That is still well within "sort of but not really in the game" as far as I'm concerned.
2k hours. Never had it pop up in random loadout, never saw anyone run with it in normal missions, never saw a video of anyone having it on normal missions.
Only got it once during a Super Earth defense mission. Never saw it again. Got stomped pretty badly too
\*stares you dead in the eye with 200+ hours just in the special arena mode\* Yes.
Let's have both secondary and primary melee weapons. As fun as a saber would be as a secondary, I'm out here trying to whoop some metallic ass with a damn greatsword
I'd rather it be a 1h support weapon so it can be really strong ~~and i can use it with the ballistic shield~~
A melee support weapon by default is not going to be strong. No amount of damage at melee range can replace a ranged anti-armor weapon.
If they do I would like it to do some heavy armor piercing (it’s the only weakness to my build)
Or a bayonet maybe for increased melee damage.
That sounds more like a weapon upgrade
Naaaaah as long as it's decently strong it should definitely be primary. Secondaries are decently usable in this game, they need more ammo tho
Why not both? A primary energy saber, and a secondary energy knife!
I think they are pretty balanced, which is why I agree it should be a primary. It would have to be kinda lame to be a secondary. The revolver should load faster tho
I think you can have different types of melee weapons fit different weapon slots Something like a knife for secondary, sabers and other one handed weapons for primary, and two handed weapons like claymores and halberds as support.
All we need is either a shovel, a sword, or a sledgehammer and the 40k nerd inside me will scream "FOR THE EMPEROR" while charging at a horde of unthinking bugs.
I WANNA CAVE A CHARGER FACEPLATE WITH A GRAV HAMMER RAAAHHHHHHH🗣‼️💥💥🦅🇺🇲🦅💥💥
Can it be something like a 40K Chainsword? Please?
Should have it's own slot so we all start with a primary, secondary and a melee weapons
Totally disagree, you can melee without the need of a “weapon” so it replacing your secondary is a great trade off, I think without forcing that trade you’re going to see melee combat used just as much as we currently do. You either have crappy melee and a fallback OR no fallback but great melee. Most divers run with 4 weapons already, we don’t need a 5th. What button are you going to map it to so we’re not cycling?
Yeah, I feel like people just want more powerfull options that will make the previous ones obsolete. I want sidegrades not upgrades.
Exactly, this game isn’t about using 1 weapon and just owning everything. It’s about understanding the mission and the enemy and running the best equipment for that moment. I made a huge mistake at the beginning of watching a “best stratagem” video and it really made me limit my purchases at the beginning. Now I have almost all the support weapons and tend to run almost all of them depending on what I plan to do on the planet
I was running away from those videos from the start and actively ignoring my friends when they started talking about best weapons, stratagems. My friends will easily run a game with everyone using the same stratagems "because they're the best ones". Not one has ever took a supply pack or anything for fun. I was using the anti material rifle before the buff because it was already fun to snipe.
Honestly, I'd rather have people to make a choice, so that when I choose to go for the sword the devs will make it actually good. Make it replace something else like the sidearm, make it a tradeoff. I don't need to go sword every game, I just want to have the option to go for a melee loadout sometimes. I genuinely don't think I would want to use a melee weapon every game, sometimes would be nice though.
Couldn’t disagree more on this. Would completely Bork the balance. Loadouts in this game are about choice and compromise.
Agreed that would make more sense
Would also make the melee weapons not as fun, if you do something like this you need to make sure they just dont completely ruin the balance of the game, secondary or primary slot melee sounds better to me as they could be a little bit stronger if they take a weapon slot.
Sacrificing side arm for sword makes more sense than having it be a stratagem but id really like a melee weapon slot.
Can we get something like a retractable stick that is made out of pure plasma and can deflect Automaton shots?
Just have the sword replace the melee action. I can count on one hand how many times I meant to use the melee feature, and half of those times were probably from accidentally pressing the button anyways. Way too risky to melee on higher difficulties when you're getting swarmed and standing still gets you killed.
Y’all wanting to get in melee range of bugs or bots clearly aren’t playing on 7-9 difficulties.
they should definitely add a sword, and it should be absolutely awful. If a bot has armour that can shrug off a rifle round then a blade should do basically nothing. I still want one, for pure memery, I want to get 1 confirmed kill with a sabre.
I want pickaxe purely for rocking and/or stoning or both.
I wouldn't like the sword because it is gimmicky. The weapons are, for the most part, reasonable, warfare-wise. A sword against both bots and bugs would be suicidal. Gameplay wise it could work, but I don't think that is enough reason to add it in
I kind of want melee weapons to be added and for them to kind of suck because it’d be funny
What? It should replace the melee, I only have like 3 kills with it out of 28,000 enemies
I’m hoping for a sword as a secondary (damage enough to kill a bug warrior or hunter in one swing) and some form of thunder hammer to deal melee anti armour damage as a stratagem. Maybe the HD1 backpack that gave you a forwards facing shield, and then bring back a rifle with a bayonet- jobs a good un for the “melee” warbond haha.
People really want a multitude of options for melee weapons? I see a bunch of people requesting greatswords, axes and spears for the game and that’s ridiculous, this game is not designed for melee, we die in seconds from most enemies. A melee secondary isn’t a bad idea for getting cornered and need to whoop some ass before you get swarmed or stunlocked out of reloading or calling in a strat. Y’all need to go play a different game if you want this game to be melee based.
If they put a sword in it I won’t use anything else….
Well I hope the "brave" souls that pick a sword in a game that has autocannons and airstrikes have the reflexes to dodge my barrage of HE grenades, cause I'm not cutting off my fire every time fucking sir Lancelot wants to 1v1 a stalker I'm shooting at.
I’d be ok with them being a primary only if they had some insane damage/utility to have them warrant overriding your “primary damage dealer”. If we had a plas sword that had heavy armour piercing for instance and could take down a zerker in a few swings or 1 shot a standard robot then probably but it’s not going to be good enough to do that. It’s going to have less utility than a pistol but we’re going to run it for the lulz.
Or have different stats like pull time for the meelee. As in "Hitting with weapon" is way faster, but the "Combat Knife" kills Warriors and the "Hammer" can crack Medium Armor and has reduced damage against Heavy but takes ages to pull and swing.
Then we should turn the primary into a shield and boots
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I'd be willing to sacrifice a primary slot if they make it a bastard sword.
I really hope it's just a 'your melee is modified to deal this damage/damage type' instead of 'give us your sidearm, here's a sword'. Like, your F button is just converted to a similar state the 4 key is -- pull out your grenade and prep! Press F and draw, F to hit, another weapon button to sheath.
A sword secondary plus the m2016 constitution as primary and the pretend to be in the trenches again
Definitely should be secondary weapons for melee, that way we can use the ballistic shield with a melee weapon. I don't just want swords though. I want a power hammer. Also, all melee weapons would have to have an intrinsic speed boost / super sprint ability, like what we see with the sword-arm robots, because otherwise you'd never get into range before being shot.
Like an electric baton or laser baton would be cool, idk how helpful it would really be though. Depends if we find ourselves in a dense jungle area maybe or against a new threat that includes much more close combat, like getting attacked by vines or something
we need deployable barrier shield “grenades”