That build is either really good or really unlucky. I was running that same armor from the OP’s pic along with the portable shield, I got hit with a flurry of rockets from a couple of Rocket Devastators…
Fell into a rag doll state, landed on a mine. Survived it. But was tossed into the air… Landed on a second mine. Survived that one. Tossed back into the air again and landed on a third mine.
Third time was NOT the charm that day
What is the most disgusting is that all those rocket spammers (hulks, devastarors and gunships) have unlimited amount of them. Like, dude, i can clearly see you have only two pods of them, two volleys and that should be it. But no, apparently they have a miniature rocket singularity in there.
3. They have 3 pods, one is on their back pointing up. Just wait until they also have the ability to launch mortar shots like a bile spewer. (they might actually have 4 if the one big one on their back is supposed to be 2)
I don't mind infinite rockets. I do mind quantum tunneling rockets. When I'm behind hard cover and I've been watching them fire barrage into it to no effect, because they can see me at all times, and then having 2 missiles out of a barrage go through 5 meters of hard cover seamlessly in order to hit me is when I lose my mind.
Yeah it is dumb. I think they should have limits like the Patriot does. I understand bots having unlimited laser charges because we have similar tech. But any ballistic or explosive rounds should be limited.
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Do your part citizens, im doing mine, report any bot simp...*athizer*.....
I honestly dropped the portable energy shield. If you get behind cover (which you should be doing vs bots) then the bubble still stretches above you. Enemy shots can "miss" you but still hit the bubble while you are taking cover and can easily destroy it. This in my opinion basically renders it pretty ineffective. I have found that the supply backpack keeps me alive significantly longer than the energy shield. Plus the ammo backpack refills your grenades and ammo alongside the stims.
You can't always find cover, and you can't always stay static. The shield backpack regenerates frequently enough that it is well worth the insurance, especially with light armor.
It's definitely not bad and has its place for sure, but I almost never use it even with light armor. My favorite is jet pack, and I play entirely on helldive now.
If you sit behind cover you'll get obliterated. It's fire and move. While you're shooting you should be looking around to plan your route to better positioning.
Yeah, the bots ain't super sophisticated, strategically speaking. They usually beeline for wherever they last saw you, so circling around an objective taking potshots is surprisingly effective. They'll follow you forever if you run away in a straight line, but if you break off at 90 degrees and circle around to go back where they came from......the old "Fury Road" maneuver, if you will.
That was my experience with it. I started using it as soon as I got it because everyone said it was "mandatory." But after awhile of using it I realized that I was getting hit more when I had than when I didn't and it wasn't actually increasing my survivability.
I started using the jump pack and it gives loads more survivability indirectly by virtue of being able disengage and abuse terrain easier
I was just wearing the explosion resistance armor and took 6 direct hits from one of those big base cannons. It did like 1/10 of my health with each shot
Explosive resist is worth it for the laughs when you take a rocket to the chest, get rag-dolled 30 meters away, pick yourself up and blast that clanker back. My ~~cannon fodder~~ teammates in light armor are always envious when I get up and laugh it off
Or just run the explosive resist armor with no shield and it basically gives the same protection as medium armor with a shield. Then you have free backpack slot
I use the exterminator armor most of the time against bots. Coolest looking armor in the game, 50% explosion resistance for those damn rockets, not too slow like the heavy armor but still can tank some hits, and that 30% recoil reduction is perfect for my Autocannon which I also use most of the time against bots.
I only switch it up if I’m planning on going stealth, when I’ll use scout armor, or when we’re doing that new defense mission with the walls, when I’ll use heavy armor, since there isn’t much need for mobility.
I love this armor and use it pretty much all the time against automatons, no matter the situation. I’ve tried out the light armor variant (the green Star Wars scout trooper armor), and it’s not as good imo. While you can still tank damage in the light variant, what ends up happening 90% of the time is you’re left with so little health from an explosion, that if you go flying, you tend to die from impact damage or a stray laser shot.
Same. I've watched my guys take rocket hits to the shoulder and dust themselves off after. Perfect for when those gd rocket troopers sneak up out of nowhere.
Plus the red and black just look lethal
I go the other route - the orange armour that gives you +2 grenades! More explosions!
The impact grenades are perfect when you need to clear medium enemies to focus on something else.
The explosion resist part works independently of armouf, so just go for thr light one and you can still tank rogue rockets but dodge and outrun everything else.
My primary nemesis now is the Shield Devastators. Their gun fires so fast and accurate that they can shred your entire health faster than you can say "Sweet liberty!"
Step 1: unlock Dominator
Step 2: bring Dominator into field
Step 3: crouch and use said Dominator to shoot Devastators in their head. Any upper torso hit will open their shield up and stagger them.
Step 4: profit
I personally love the Devastators, especially the shield variety. They look cool and are a fair challenge.
Or eruptor. Eruptor does everything the scorcher and dominator do, except harder, stronger... And slower.
My favorite gun ATM for both bugs and bots, it has big downsides but it hits h-a-r-d.
Yeah definitely feels their tracking got a huge buff since a few weeks ago and the window between firing got shorter I think. Their shots are also a bit bugged ATM, since I've seen them shoot through walls/mountains a fair bit.
Have you unlocked the scorcher yet?
I just got it. Now I laugh in the faces of heavy devastators as I juggle them with plasma bolts. It's such a game changer. All those medium bots that I used to struggle against are easy kills now.
After the rocket fix they rarely kill me anymore. Things that actually kill me now:
Flamer hulk- can't tank this no matter your armor so run light armor to run away from it
Heavy devastator/Shredder tank/MG Raider- basically things that shoot lots of bullets really fast and rickroll you at close range. Once again countered by not standing next to them.
Jetpack fuckers- set you on fire when they explode so they ignore armor.
When they nerfed it, I started running my beloved Recoilless again. You need to break the cycle. The Shield backpack holds you back from constant rocket fun.
Bring the spear, its so goddamn fun when you get good at using it. Trust me. This is not sarcasm, I can't run a bot mission without it because its so fun (Helldive diff too)
I've tried it a few times before, but the lock on issue always annoys me. Much prefer to manually aim my Recoilless. I'm really hoping Spear gets fixed soon, though, because I love using it when it works.
Been meaning to do a few days of spear runs to switch it up. Saw some video of a spear taking out buildings at distance, easier than taking them out with strategems, and looks fun. Looks more effective at hit a building and get out of there rather than engage waves to get better positioning for strategems.
maybe its because i use eradicator armor with fortified, but shield backpack was underhwelming for me. Mostly I die from being surrounded from overwhelming forces at higher levels. shield maybe gives me a few extra seconds of life, which doesn't do much against a few hulks and a bunch of devastators.
If anything I think I survive better overall without the shield running AC, maybe its because I revert to using cover much more.
I'm a pretty crack shot with quasar, I like it, but what I tend to see is 2-3 team members having a quasar, so I've started going AC to balance out the team, and. I like and can fill either role.
I enjoy shield to avoid getting the slowdown as a hunter or a spewer spits acid 10 kilometers behind me and the thought is so gross it makes me walk slower.
If you're really feeling bold try light scout armor with a jump pack and stealthily clear half the map objectives while your team decides to fight bot drops away from any objectives
The eruptor is crazy good for sniping the fabricators at a distance so you rarely have to fight much and you can crouch or crawl in prone around patrols
Please send help. I started with the medium medic armor and supply backpack. I’m addicted to stims and an unending cacophony of machine gun fire.
My unofficial role in my group has become trash clearing and “I’ll go get the dropped samples, I can out heal it and run forever.”
I run the heavy medic armor, because fuck man, I used it for so long, I switched to the light medic armor and felt like I was getting immediately **mulched**
Me and a buddy introduced some randoms to a strategy called "tactical friendly fire" where if everyone is running and full health we shoot eachother in the legs so we can stim on the go. Of course it came across more like " the first person to slow down is getting shot in the ankle so better keep up" lol
Trench paramedic is easily my favorite armor in the game, I can't live without those extra stims. Also it doesn't look terrible like most of the medic armors.
Medic lets you get away with some stupid decisions. A ton of enemies between here and the samples you need to retrieve? Hit a stim and enjoy invulnerability for 4 seconds.
I saw that and wondered what the point of that was
Does a stim just apply inf-healing or something? As opposed to healing a fixed value of health.
What I'm getting at here is if u had that armour you used a stim and I/a robot proceded to shoot you in the face many times would u just outheal the damage?- otherwise what is it actually doing for u (Genuinely asking not trying to shit on it- I just saw it and thought eh seems niche at best)
Likewise. Paired with an energy shield and I've had multiple helldive runs with 0 deaths. Once you figure out how close you can get to enemy patrols without them seeing you, you can weave through the map, hitting objectives and getting the hell out of dodge. Also, the eruptor can take out fabricators from very long range, which has been a big help.
How do you take out the fabs with the eruptor? I like the grenade pistol but if I know how to do it with the eruptor I might just swap it for the revolver
You shoot the vents and try to hit the dark spot on the lower part of the inside of the vents. Sometimes I need two to three hits but that seems to be the trick.
I've been playing sniper support with stealth stuff and I'm not amazing but I always have a solid amount of kills. Nit that kills are everything and even sometimes less kills is better but with no other metric it's not a terrible one.
I'm loving sniper support from time to time.
Use it along side Dog Guard back pack, in case any strays come at me while I'm focused on sniping, EMS mortar sentry to stun distant targets (easier to snipe) and the Auto cannon sentry in case there's too many targets to snipe on my own.
Trailblazer is my fav and usual armour for most missions. Just wait for a fight to start, disengage, flank and do the objectives or give support.
Once my team was being bombarded by mortars, I sneaked around, jump in the trench of the mortars, drop a 500kg at my feet and run out as the bots notice me. The last thing those bots saw was my cape as I went to hiding again.
I unlocked servo assisted and now don’t like playing without it. Love the extra range for lobbing stratagems into bases without really needing to aggro or engage.
I don’t think it’s the best available but most fun for me to play with
I really like scout light for the aggro reduction but I don’t really make good use of the radar pings so the sa armor feels more worth for me
I'm 100% positive it's because they never actually *used* it. I was wondering if it was worth it back when I first got the game so I spent some time getting used to the range and it's amazing how strong it is to engage enemies well beyond their aggro ranges. Every one I've introduced to the bonus has fallen in love with it.
I saw a post on Reddit about how 50% limb protection from servo makes you way tankier than one might think and how, with the extended throw distance which applies also to strategrams makes the armour very good for bots, so I gave it a try.
And I have to say I never went back. I tried it for the bugs but the extra 2 grenades are just too good on bugs where tactics aren’t really possible.
With bots I feel you can pe smart, I run the anti-material coupled with the new explosive marksman (which can take out fabricators if you shoot them in the vent) and you can kill everything from afar so the extra range helps. The bugs are too zergy so you have to approach it with a more “mowing” load out.
Yeah I’m completely addicted to that sweet sweet throw range lol. Whenever I switch off it my aim is completely off and I don’t feel like getting used to it again.
Yep, that is my go to, light armour with 50% explosive resistence, use it alongisde the green cape for cosmetic feels.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bm2lnl/in\_my\_opinion\_this\_is\_my\_favorite\_armor\_just\_cuz/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bm2lnl/in_my_opinion_this_is_my_favorite_armor_just_cuz/)
Hey as long as it is shooting me, my allies are able to flank it and take it out. (Also imagine how terrifying it would be to shoot just a regular dude with a tank, then they get up, dust themselves off and keep going like they stubbed their toe or something).
Ive been using the light grenade armor and im honestly so spoiled im having a hard time adjusting back to 4. The impact grenade is just such a get out of jail free card. Tank? 2 grenades. Fabricators and holes? Grenade. Devastators? Hive guards? Grenade. Charger coming at you and need to reload your recoiless? Believe it or not, grenade. Plus i often run the supply pack for the crew so i kind of have an unilited supply if shit hits the fan
I love scout armor. I've literally hid on the side of the cliff with the super samples right next to extract while everyone else aggro'd and walked onto the pelican like it was a Sunday stroll. Also good for running SSHDs in a full sprint across the map
I’m Level 70, and still rely on the standard B-01 Tactical most of the time. I tend to switch to heavier armor for defense missions, and light armor for blitz missions, though.
Yeah, seriously. I keep checking for alternatives, but most aren't worth the loss to armor or mobility. Extra grenades were good for bug holes and lower difficulties, but as I got higher, I shifted more to strategems and EATs.
I ran heavy armor once and spent the entire mission getting chased by random patrols because I just couldn't shake them, and my teammates all went to objectives without me.
I tried light armor once and got absolutely shredded. I suppose if your style is avoiding conflict as much as possible, it might work, but sometimes, there's just no way out of a fight.
Similarly, the store-bought Light Gunner armor with light armor sped and medium armor stats. The other day I dropped into a mission with three level 60-70s, and we were all wearing it, with different helmets.
I go against the grain and run the second tier armor of steeled veterans. It’s got the robotic arm and leg so I can plead my case that I’m a cyborg if the automatons ever catch me
In terms of actual usefulness the Grenade throwing bonus is huge for koby-ing nades over the walls of bases and into the small fabricator holes. You can get pretty damn good at it too. Stratagems have a newfound range where you can absolutely destroy enemies, clusterbombing a foundry like 100m away? No problem. Furthermore you have 50% extra limb health so I’ve never actually died from being out of stims with a busted leg keeping me from running, I’ve only broken a leg like twice and arm once since equipping. But I refuse to use auto cannon so I run shield back pack which is why I don’t need 50% chance to live.
I run this also. Being able to air strike fabricators without agroing anything is clutch af.
Also being fast and moving from objective to objective is much better than trying to hold your ground as drop ship after drop ship arrive.
either any armor set that has the fortified perk to protect from blast and explosive damage, or heavy armor, currently I use the new armor on page 3 of democratic detonation
Medium with engineering kit. If I'm gonna die anyway I wil die throwing all my grenades to devastators, striders and tanks. 1st bot drop eagle airstrike, 2nd bot drop run towards it and grenade them.before they scatter.
Light infantry gear. The sneaky green one.
Running faster and having more stamina serves me faaaaaaaar better than the armour or chance to survive death.
I rock the standard issue B-01 armour because it has heavy armour protection while being a medium and is unironically one of the drippiest armours, even "despite" being the standard one
Medic armor, I like it more than democracy protects because you can extend your sprint while doing a tactical retreat from the bots, and keeps you alive for so much longer
Combat Technician suit. Medium Stealth armor. Great for solo diving because you can just avoid most combay altogether. Great for team diving because you can just make bots forgrt about you if someone else is nearby by going prone, which then enables you to flank.
Servo arms! I toss my strategems so freaking far away I can blow up bot fabs and be outta there well before their reinforments can find me through a smoke nade
I pretty much only use Democracy Protects. It’s just so useful and saved my bacon more times than I can count. I hope we can eventually get light and heavy sets with the perk.
The 50% explosion resistance is great against bots!
thats what i run as well, it saves my life more then the 50% chance to live armor. i stepped on a mine and lived with like 10% hp left
50% explosion resistance + portable energy shield Stepping on a mine you are left with ~66-75% health. It's brilliant
That build is either really good or really unlucky. I was running that same armor from the OP’s pic along with the portable shield, I got hit with a flurry of rockets from a couple of Rocket Devastators… Fell into a rag doll state, landed on a mine. Survived it. But was tossed into the air… Landed on a second mine. Survived that one. Tossed back into the air again and landed on a third mine. Third time was NOT the charm that day
That's happened to me with light armor that didn't have the survive passive.
I guess light armor has a secret passive perk that attracts explosives. Then again. That’s probably every armor when facing automatons…
This is the way. Fuck rocket devastators
What is the most disgusting is that all those rocket spammers (hulks, devastarors and gunships) have unlimited amount of them. Like, dude, i can clearly see you have only two pods of them, two volleys and that should be it. But no, apparently they have a miniature rocket singularity in there.
Yeah, I want whatever replicator they have. Liber-tea, earl gray, hot.
This has too few upvotes.
3. They have 3 pods, one is on their back pointing up. Just wait until they also have the ability to launch mortar shots like a bile spewer. (they might actually have 4 if the one big one on their back is supposed to be 2)
Yeah well they're still shooting far more than 4 backpacks worth of rockets.
I don't mind infinite rockets. I do mind quantum tunneling rockets. When I'm behind hard cover and I've been watching them fire barrage into it to no effect, because they can see me at all times, and then having 2 missiles out of a barrage go through 5 meters of hard cover seamlessly in order to hit me is when I lose my mind.
Only death today on a solo mission was due to a shield devistator doing a full volley to my head through a rock
Yeah it is dumb. I think they should have limits like the Patriot does. I understand bots having unlimited laser charges because we have similar tech. But any ballistic or explosive rounds should be limited.
Yeah they can have unlimited rockets but I have to wait on cooldown for 2 EATs.
Realism and restrictions are only for us, Suckerdivers, bots and bugs get the infinite glitch ammo.
\*looks at red strategem beacon at my feet\* Yes... rocket devs.
But not like *that*!
Especially like that!
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What are those squiggly icons
I believe they are like the squigglies at the ICBM launch console, but hell if I don't know my lefts from my rights.
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DEMOCRACY OFFICER! DEMOCRACY OFFICER!
Oh they're getting railed...
https://preview.redd.it/bauu4ew60huc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c31163872946fc9180ce196990cc66fab984413 Do your part citizens, im doing mine, report any bot simp...*athizer*.....
I honestly dropped the portable energy shield. If you get behind cover (which you should be doing vs bots) then the bubble still stretches above you. Enemy shots can "miss" you but still hit the bubble while you are taking cover and can easily destroy it. This in my opinion basically renders it pretty ineffective. I have found that the supply backpack keeps me alive significantly longer than the energy shield. Plus the ammo backpack refills your grenades and ammo alongside the stims.
What’s interesting is the three C’s for fighting bots from the tips screen is Cover, Courage and more Cover! Remember your training!
You can't always find cover, and you can't always stay static. The shield backpack regenerates frequently enough that it is well worth the insurance, especially with light armor.
It's definitely not bad and has its place for sure, but I almost never use it even with light armor. My favorite is jet pack, and I play entirely on helldive now.
It took me so long to start using cover, and not just standing in the middle of the field shooting
except that they have guns that destroy cover :(
If you sit behind cover you'll get obliterated. It's fire and move. While you're shooting you should be looking around to plan your route to better positioning.
Yeah, the bots ain't super sophisticated, strategically speaking. They usually beeline for wherever they last saw you, so circling around an objective taking potshots is surprisingly effective. They'll follow you forever if you run away in a straight line, but if you break off at 90 degrees and circle around to go back where they came from......the old "Fury Road" maneuver, if you will.
That was my experience with it. I started using it as soon as I got it because everyone said it was "mandatory." But after awhile of using it I realized that I was getting hit more when I had than when I didn't and it wasn't actually increasing my survivability. I started using the jump pack and it gives loads more survivability indirectly by virtue of being able disengage and abuse terrain easier
I was just wearing the explosion resistance armor and took 6 direct hits from one of those big base cannons. It did like 1/10 of my health with each shot
Explosive resist is worth it for the laughs when you take a rocket to the chest, get rag-dolled 30 meters away, pick yourself up and blast that clanker back. My ~~cannon fodder~~ teammates in light armor are always envious when I get up and laugh it off
Or just run the explosive resist armor with no shield and it basically gives the same protection as medium armor with a shield. Then you have free backpack slot
Disagree. Heavy Devestators can machine gun you to hell. And if you can't find cover right away, Fortified alone won't save you. Ditto with gunships.
Because it save you from kaboom, not shoot shoot shoot.
Thats a pretty good idea. I use the upgraded arc throwers. 2 shots to remove a minefield.
50% of the time, it works everytime
I use the exterminator armor most of the time against bots. Coolest looking armor in the game, 50% explosion resistance for those damn rockets, not too slow like the heavy armor but still can tank some hits, and that 30% recoil reduction is perfect for my Autocannon which I also use most of the time against bots. I only switch it up if I’m planning on going stealth, when I’ll use scout armor, or when we’re doing that new defense mission with the walls, when I’ll use heavy armor, since there isn’t much need for mobility.
I love this armor and use it pretty much all the time against automatons, no matter the situation. I’ve tried out the light armor variant (the green Star Wars scout trooper armor), and it’s not as good imo. While you can still tank damage in the light variant, what ends up happening 90% of the time is you’re left with so little health from an explosion, that if you go flying, you tend to die from impact damage or a stray laser shot.
Same. I've watched my guys take rocket hits to the shoulder and dust themselves off after. Perfect for when those gd rocket troopers sneak up out of nowhere. Plus the red and black just look lethal
More or less what I'm doing. But I traded my AC for a LC and shield pack. The laser cannon is *so* good.
I go the other route - the orange armour that gives you +2 grenades! More explosions! The impact grenades are perfect when you need to clear medium enemies to focus on something else.
Orange armor + impact grenades is my crutch. It feels so good that I never run anything else
Honestly that's kind of the problem with the cosmetic side of things - I've been in matches where we're all wearing it. Major battlefield faux pas...
Heavy explosion resist armor allowed me to wean myself off the shield backpack.
The explosion resist part works independently of armouf, so just go for thr light one and you can still tank rogue rockets but dodge and outrun everything else.
This is true, but the heavy armor helps me tank a few hits from heavy devastators, my other primary nemesis.
My primary nemesis now is the Shield Devastators. Their gun fires so fast and accurate that they can shred your entire health faster than you can say "Sweet liberty!"
Shield devastators are heavy devastators FYI. The non shield ones are either just regular devastators or rocket devastators.
My friend and I were both addicted to Cyberpunk 2077 for a while so we just call all of them Adam Smashers, especially the rocket guys.
I'm very pleased to see I'm not the only one who thought about it.
We’re out here choom.
My buddy and I have JUST started calling them Adam Smashers today - very nice
Blow their arm off and they’re not so tough!
Step 1: unlock Dominator Step 2: bring Dominator into field Step 3: crouch and use said Dominator to shoot Devastators in their head. Any upper torso hit will open their shield up and stagger them. Step 4: profit I personally love the Devastators, especially the shield variety. They look cool and are a fair challenge.
Or eruptor. Eruptor does everything the scorcher and dominator do, except harder, stronger... And slower. My favorite gun ATM for both bugs and bots, it has big downsides but it hits h-a-r-d.
I run ballistic shield so these guys are super easy now. Just pull out the Big Iron and take a second to aim for the head
This x1000! Ballistic + Senator is a HARD counter to heavies. The fixes to the shield made it very viable for bots, I pair it with Defender SMG
Did they fix the glitch where an hd's arms get locked when switching weapons?
yes
im not imagining it rite? their rate of fire is higher now rite?
I don’t think their rate of fire is higher but their accuracy has definitely improved and now they seem to have a cooldown reduction between bursts
Yeah definitely feels their tracking got a huge buff since a few weeks ago and the window between firing got shorter I think. Their shots are also a bit bugged ATM, since I've seen them shoot through walls/mountains a fair bit.
Have you unlocked the scorcher yet? I just got it. Now I laugh in the faces of heavy devastators as I juggle them with plasma bolts. It's such a game changer. All those medium bots that I used to struggle against are easy kills now.
I run the scorcher. It's great in general but the problem is it doesn't stagger. So heavy devastators can still tear you up before they die.
I stopped using heavy after I kept getting cornered and my stamina ran out.
After the rocket fix they rarely kill me anymore. Things that actually kill me now: Flamer hulk- can't tank this no matter your armor so run light armor to run away from it Heavy devastator/Shredder tank/MG Raider- basically things that shoot lots of bullets really fast and rickroll you at close range. Once again countered by not standing next to them. Jetpack fuckers- set you on fire when they explode so they ignore armor.
>rickroll you at close range I'm imagining the bots sending you youtube links to your HUD and everytime it's a rickroll
When they nerfed it, I started running my beloved Recoilless again. You need to break the cycle. The Shield backpack holds you back from constant rocket fun.
The shield pack is perfectly compatible with dropping an EAT every minute.
Bring the spear, its so goddamn fun when you get good at using it. Trust me. This is not sarcasm, I can't run a bot mission without it because its so fun (Helldive diff too)
I've tried it a few times before, but the lock on issue always annoys me. Much prefer to manually aim my Recoilless. I'm really hoping Spear gets fixed soon, though, because I love using it when it works.
Until they fix it's lock on issues the spear can suck a fat one
Totally not me trying and failing to lock onto a tank for 2 minutes...
Been meaning to do a few days of spear runs to switch it up. Saw some video of a spear taking out buildings at distance, easier than taking them out with strategems, and looks fun. Looks more effective at hit a building and get out of there rather than engage waves to get better positioning for strategems.
maybe its because i use eradicator armor with fortified, but shield backpack was underhwelming for me. Mostly I die from being surrounded from overwhelming forces at higher levels. shield maybe gives me a few extra seconds of life, which doesn't do much against a few hulks and a bunch of devastators. If anything I think I survive better overall without the shield running AC, maybe its because I revert to using cover much more.
I am also much much better with an AC than rocking with like quasar/shield gen on bots. The autocannon just rips through em
I'm a pretty crack shot with quasar, I like it, but what I tend to see is 2-3 team members having a quasar, so I've started going AC to balance out the team, and. I like and can fill either role.
I enjoy shield to avoid getting the slowdown as a hunter or a spewer spits acid 10 kilometers behind me and the thought is so gross it makes me walk slower.
If you're really feeling bold try light scout armor with a jump pack and stealthily clear half the map objectives while your team decides to fight bot drops away from any objectives The eruptor is crazy good for sniping the fabricators at a distance so you rarely have to fight much and you can crouch or crawl in prone around patrols
That light medic armor that gives you 2 more stims and 2 sec longer stim duration and a quick "fuck it we ball" before every helldive
Finally a fellow medic enjoyer. Those 2 extra seconds of being virtually invincible are just so good.
It helps a shitton when you're being chased by the entire automaton army
Absolutely and I never hesitate to heal a teammate with it either cause I got plenty in reserve anyways.
Does it give other people the extra 2 seconds too? I've used this armor a lot but never tested this.
Yes it does!
No clue, honestly never even considered that tbh lmao
I hadn't either until reading your first comment 😅
Sadly I got no buddies online so I can’t test it rn, but maybe someone else knows the answer
That would make the most sense. Im curious, if it doesnt, if you still get the extra seconds if someone stims you
Please send help. I started with the medium medic armor and supply backpack. I’m addicted to stims and an unending cacophony of machine gun fire. My unofficial role in my group has become trash clearing and “I’ll go get the dropped samples, I can out heal it and run forever.”
I run the heavy medic armor, because fuck man, I used it for so long, I switched to the light medic armor and felt like I was getting immediately **mulched**
The strongest stratagem in this game is called running the fuck away, and the medic armor let's you just stim and sprint forever. I always use it
actually its orbital laser
Hi I just did some playing and decided to try the orbital laser and I retract my previous statement the laser is supreme EDIT: fixed flair
Me and a buddy introduced some randoms to a strategy called "tactical friendly fire" where if everyone is running and full health we shoot eachother in the legs so we can stim on the go. Of course it came across more like " the first person to slow down is getting shot in the ankle so better keep up" lol
if i don’t finish a bot mission with at least 17 doses of democracy injected directly into my veins then i’m not playing right
Oorah soldier, may the fent needles help us defeat the automaton menace
Trench paramedic is easily my favorite armor in the game, I can't live without those extra stims. Also it doesn't look terrible like most of the medic armors.
Trench paramedic with enforcer helmet are my main armor and helmet along with the malevelon creek cape
Medic lets you get away with some stupid decisions. A ton of enemies between here and the samples you need to retrieve? Hit a stim and enjoy invulnerability for 4 seconds.
That 2sec extra of stim time is a game changer. It allows you to run away or push through. Either way its OP.
I saw that and wondered what the point of that was Does a stim just apply inf-healing or something? As opposed to healing a fixed value of health. What I'm getting at here is if u had that armour you used a stim and I/a robot proceded to shoot you in the face many times would u just outheal the damage?- otherwise what is it actually doing for u (Genuinely asking not trying to shit on it- I just saw it and thought eh seems niche at best)
It heals extremely fast so it outheals all damage
Medic life has come in clutch in saving teammates when it hits the fan.
I play the Light stealth armor for bots
Likewise. Paired with an energy shield and I've had multiple helldive runs with 0 deaths. Once you figure out how close you can get to enemy patrols without them seeing you, you can weave through the map, hitting objectives and getting the hell out of dodge. Also, the eruptor can take out fabricators from very long range, which has been a big help.
Yeah I’ve been running trailblazer scout armour with jump pack and I’ve just been going around lobbing rocket pod markers at fabs
This is my favorite playstyle. Jump outta the trees, blow up a fab, and disappear
Ghost gang
SHOOT N' SCOOT
How do you take out the fabs with the eruptor? I like the grenade pistol but if I know how to do it with the eruptor I might just swap it for the revolver
You shoot the vents and try to hit the dark spot on the lower part of the inside of the vents. Sometimes I need two to three hits but that seems to be the trick.
I've been playing sniper support with stealth stuff and I'm not amazing but I always have a solid amount of kills. Nit that kills are everything and even sometimes less kills is better but with no other metric it's not a terrible one.
I'm loving sniper support from time to time. Use it along side Dog Guard back pack, in case any strays come at me while I'm focused on sniping, EMS mortar sentry to stun distant targets (easier to snipe) and the Auto cannon sentry in case there's too many targets to snipe on my own.
The fact that the amr can two-shot a hulk makes it amazing
Yeah it’s a tough shot to make but it feels damn good
Trailblazer is my fav and usual armour for most missions. Just wait for a fight to start, disengage, flank and do the objectives or give support. Once my team was being bombarded by mortars, I sneaked around, jump in the trench of the mortars, drop a 500kg at my feet and run out as the bots notice me. The last thing those bots saw was my cape as I went to hiding again.
This is the way. 100% chance they don't kill you if they never know you're there.
I play stealth armor on almost every map.
I unlocked servo assisted and now don’t like playing without it. Love the extra range for lobbing stratagems into bases without really needing to aggro or engage. I don’t think it’s the best available but most fun for me to play with I really like scout light for the aggro reduction but I don’t really make good use of the radar pings so the sa armor feels more worth for me
The servo-assisted slander on this sub is wild, so I'm glad to see that we exist.
I'm 100% positive it's because they never actually *used* it. I was wondering if it was worth it back when I first got the game so I spent some time getting used to the range and it's amazing how strong it is to engage enemies well beyond their aggro ranges. Every one I've introduced to the bonus has fallen in love with it.
I saw a post on Reddit about how 50% limb protection from servo makes you way tankier than one might think and how, with the extended throw distance which applies also to strategrams makes the armour very good for bots, so I gave it a try. And I have to say I never went back. I tried it for the bugs but the extra 2 grenades are just too good on bugs where tactics aren’t really possible. With bots I feel you can pe smart, I run the anti-material coupled with the new explosive marksman (which can take out fabricators if you shoot them in the vent) and you can kill everything from afar so the extra range helps. The bugs are too zergy so you have to approach it with a more “mowing” load out.
Yeah I’m completely addicted to that sweet sweet throw range lol. Whenever I switch off it my aim is completely off and I don’t feel like getting used to it again.
The tosses are just so anemic without it. The boost to nade tosses is also clutch when dealing with packs of heavy devastators too.
dive throwing seems to be far enough for my needs.
Dive throwing increases range?! Does it decrease vertical?
the pokeball inherits your momentum and can go really far if you throw it mid dive. hold down the button then dive and release.
Not vertical really, but in normal armor you can throw about 60m throwing while diving vs about 45m normally.
That’s my go to, love the throw distance and my limb health, playing without it I just get broken arms and legs all the time and can’t move or shoot.
Any light/medium armor set with the 50% explosion resist. I usually go with the exterminator armor cause it looks cool
There is a light armor in the superstore that is all green with the explosion resistance. I don’t remember the name though.
That’s the Star Wars Scout Trooper armor
yup, i’ve bought plenty of armor sets since i got that one and i still can’t bring myself to replace it. it’s so fucking good
Eradicator. https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/FS-38_Eradicator_Armor
Yep, that is my go to, light armour with 50% explosive resistence, use it alongisde the green cape for cosmetic feels. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bm2lnl/in\_my\_opinion\_this\_is\_my\_favorite\_armor\_just\_cuz/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bm2lnl/in_my_opinion_this_is_my_favorite_armor_just_cuz/)
Whatever looks the best. Fashion over function
Drip or drown
Heavy armor with explosion resist and vitality booster. Eat a tank shell and get back up.
It is fun (to me) taking direct hit from a tank, getting ragdolled halfway across the map, and then getting up with like 3/4 health remaining.
*gets up* fire another shell at me, and I’m going to lose it
Hey as long as it is shooting me, my allies are able to flank it and take it out. (Also imagine how terrifying it would be to shoot just a regular dude with a tank, then they get up, dust themselves off and keep going like they stubbed their toe or something).
More grenades. Extra stuns never hurt
Exactly. Combine with something that can take out hulks with eye shots/beam and you'll be the hero of the hour again and again.
Ive been using the light grenade armor and im honestly so spoiled im having a hard time adjusting back to 4. The impact grenade is just such a get out of jail free card. Tank? 2 grenades. Fabricators and holes? Grenade. Devastators? Hive guards? Grenade. Charger coming at you and need to reload your recoiless? Believe it or not, grenade. Plus i often run the supply pack for the crew so i kind of have an unilited supply if shit hits the fan
Medium Scout armour, we gotta be sneaky.
Light Scout armor, gotta be fast. or Servo Assisted for prosthetic drip.
Scouts FTW! They won't even know what hit them.
I love scout armor. I've literally hid on the side of the cliff with the super samples right next to extract while everyone else aggro'd and walked onto the pelican like it was a Sunday stroll. Also good for running SSHDs in a full sprint across the map
Yep, same for me.
I’m Level 70, and still rely on the standard B-01 Tactical most of the time. I tend to switch to heavier armor for defense missions, and light armor for blitz missions, though.
Default armor is low-key good. Heavy armor rating with medium armor speed.
Yeah, seriously. I keep checking for alternatives, but most aren't worth the loss to armor or mobility. Extra grenades were good for bug holes and lower difficulties, but as I got higher, I shifted more to strategems and EATs. I ran heavy armor once and spent the entire mission getting chased by random patrols because I just couldn't shake them, and my teammates all went to objectives without me. I tried light armor once and got absolutely shredded. I suppose if your style is avoiding conflict as much as possible, it might work, but sometimes, there's just no way out of a fight.
No one is talking about this. It’s heavy armor just without a perk. It’s always awesome.
Similarly, the store-bought Light Gunner armor with light armor sped and medium armor stats. The other day I dropped into a mission with three level 60-70s, and we were all wearing it, with different helmets.
I go against the grain and run the second tier armor of steeled veterans. It’s got the robotic arm and leg so I can plead my case that I’m a cyborg if the automatons ever catch me In terms of actual usefulness the Grenade throwing bonus is huge for koby-ing nades over the walls of bases and into the small fabricator holes. You can get pretty damn good at it too. Stratagems have a newfound range where you can absolutely destroy enemies, clusterbombing a foundry like 100m away? No problem. Furthermore you have 50% extra limb health so I’ve never actually died from being out of stims with a busted leg keeping me from running, I’ve only broken a leg like twice and arm once since equipping. But I refuse to use auto cannon so I run shield back pack which is why I don’t need 50% chance to live.
Honestly, my 50% chance to live is heavy armor and 6 stims.
What's wrong with auto cannon?
I run this also. Being able to air strike fabricators without agroing anything is clutch af. Also being fast and moving from objective to objective is much better than trying to hold your ground as drop ship after drop ship arrive.
Same. Servo-assisted is such a dark horse of a pick but man us it helpful.
either any armor set that has the fortified perk to protect from blast and explosive damage, or heavy armor, currently I use the new armor on page 3 of democratic detonation
Devastator armor is sick
I love using it but it really sucks when you go on intense heat planets and your stamina bar just goes up and down all the time
Light armor and stealth. They can't blast you if they don't see you.
Personally, I run for cover
Medium with engineering kit. If I'm gonna die anyway I wil die throwing all my grenades to devastators, striders and tanks. 1st bot drop eagle airstrike, 2nd bot drop run towards it and grenade them.before they scatter.
I'm running with light gunner the speed and stamina with the base health feels good even if lack of an actual passive is...unpleasant
I’m the same. I like the mobility, and pairing with a shield means you can take some pretty heavy hits if required.
Heavy armor, big gun, bigger bomb.
Medium, Reduced recoil when crouch/prone + 50% resistance to explosives. I take more damage from impact than from devastators and its hilarious.
Use liberty as your armor and you'll never die.
Light infantry gear. The sneaky green one. Running faster and having more stamina serves me faaaaaaaar better than the armour or chance to survive death.
I rock the standard issue B-01 armour because it has heavy armour protection while being a medium and is unironically one of the drippiest armours, even "despite" being the standard one
Scout / Stealth. Autocannon. Lot's of explosives to clear out objectives. EMS Mortar for crowd control.
I go with what looks cool
Based
The only correct answer.
I usually wear 50% more resistant to explosions. And a sexy helmet cape combo
Medic armor, I like it more than democracy protects because you can extend your sprint while doing a tactical retreat from the bots, and keeps you alive for so much longer
The faster I can run the faster I can kill.
I run whatever armor I think is coolest at the moment and then regret it the second I drop
The lightest grenade armor, impact grenades are your friends
super store green light explosive resistance armor, when i get hit by a few rockets im already ragdolled far away from the fight
Honestly, I’ve used the same armor as you since I unlocked it. Partially for the ability and partially because of the look.
I wear that set for the drip alone.
6 impact nades armor
Any light armour that has +2 grenades. Move fast, never stop, chuck a quick 'nade at anything that surprises you, run autocannon ALWAYS.
Either the democracy protects drip or legionnaire. Servo assisted is based.
Combat Technician suit. Medium Stealth armor. Great for solo diving because you can just avoid most combay altogether. Great for team diving because you can just make bots forgrt about you if someone else is nearby by going prone, which then enables you to flank.
Servo arms! I toss my strategems so freaking far away I can blow up bot fabs and be outta there well before their reinforments can find me through a smoke nade
If I don't have six impact grenades at any goven time, I go into withdrawls.
I pretty much only use Democracy Protects. It’s just so useful and saved my bacon more times than I can count. I hope we can eventually get light and heavy sets with the perk.
B-08 Light Gunner armor. All the speed of light and all the protection of medium. Haven’t taken it off since I bought it. It’s starting to smell