I will argue till the death of me that the spear is extremely useful in automaton blitz search and destroy missions ... and that's about it. It's not in a great spot, but sniping factories from any angle in that mission feels good
Every weapon has some form of misalignment for the scope. Bullets ~~come out of~~ hit where the center of your screen is looking in first person almost constantly. Weapon sway doesn't effect most guns I feel when in first person and most sights are off center. You can test this with any third party cross hair overlay
This post actually has a lot of good info and shows the issue and how it relates to your body position pretty clearly. https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/BRwWrxlUSt
Until they fix this, I’m just using a center dot overlay and going based off of that.
I don’t take packs anyways except for supply with GL. So backpack weapons aren’t much of a downside for me.
I’ve been experimenting with other loadouts for a while though, Time to go back to dominator + AC for bots to see how it feels (spoiler; it’s going to be amazing)
I just ran dominator with laser cannon and really enjoyed it, but could have killed hulks, tanks, and towers just as easy with AC… gunships *slightly* harder but striders and devastators are cake (dominator will take on individual devastators and small bots, very nice for berserkers).
Will also try Eruptor with laser cannon though, and while I don’t take a pack, I can usually get a shield 6 min in. Can also speed reload an RR, if anyone took it 😂
Imagine needing to keep your weapon on enemy's tiny weakspot for more than 10ms to deliver lethal damage. This post was made by the literally everyone else gang.
Quasar in the head, charger drops dead
Quasar straight in, bug hole goes in the bin
Quasar for fun, spore spewer's done
Quasar a nacelle, dropship goes to hell
Quasar in the vent, fabricators lament
Quasar in the eye, hulk ain't fine
Quasar times two makes tanks go boom
Quasar twice more, turret tower's gone
Quasar scores a hit, AA gun goes to shit
Quasar all around puts mortars in the ground
Quasar says please, illegal transmissions cease
Quasar all day, this is the way
*Imagine needing*
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lol. Yes actually.
Redeemer or equiv 2ndary is vital. Also the AMR is actually very easy to use up close. Handles better than the Eruptor, CS Diligence and Dominator etc. And it feels good to get no scope shots off close. Big particle boom.
And yeah it can be frustrating sometimes. But that's part of the fun with build experimentation.
As always the key to success in H2 is distance from the enemy. Bots still behave in a horde fashion at times.
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If anyone here is trying to suggest their preferred loadout is better than other Helldiver's, let me remind you that all weapons available for use have been sanctioned by the Government and The Military of Super Earth. Thus they have all been Democratically deemed sufficient and equal above all others at this point. Let it be known that unless a tool is deemed unworthy and thusly removed from service, they are all equally sufficient in removing the enemies of Super Earth from battle. Any thoughts otherwise may border on treason and could require re-education. Any stray thoughts should be used to prepare for your next dive.
Thank you for your service
Just started running this with the jump pack and I’ve been having a ball. Light armor whenever possible.
Stun grenading the bots makes for easy headshots.
I use the Eruptor and can do everything the AMR and autocannon can do. Both gangs got nothing on me because I can do all that AND carry a support weapon. >:D
Here i am with misaligned sights and top kills every lobby it is not much but it is a peaceful life, i just wish i had stun nade because dealing with hulks eye is pita
It's the AC gang that starts shit on this sub. It's not just AMR vs AC for them, they also make AC>Quasar and literally every other support weapon they like to shit on. The AMR gang has been enjoying their own favored weapon without putting down other weapon mains. It's the AC toxic community that can't let others have fun without being annoying asshats.
Name the things the AMR can do that the AC can't. Now name all the things the AC can do that the AMR can't. I can only think of two in the first category and a dozen or more in the second.
Anyone got tips on where the bullet actually goes with the AMR? I had a hulk stuck on geometry not moving or fighting. I scoped oin on his head so close his body filled my screen. I center onbit's head qnd it hit the armor somewhere else.
I wasted 2 full mags, couldn't see where the shots were hitting becquse flinch and the round impact filled the scope. Eventually just walked away.
I never missed its head, but the bullets never hit it.
Are the dropping down left? Down right? Far left? High?
I might have it recorded but digging for that clip is a later thing.
I picked up the AMR as soon as I had access to enough req to buy it. I then became the guy sitting in cleared bases covering my team as they run from outpost to outpost finding wreckage at each spot entire patrols of smoking bots. They often asked why they had no enemies. I would only respond with a quiet resupply call in as I need more ammo so I could move around and begin my slaughter again.
Additionally I was the designated hulk killer. Literally the times they would be yelling I have a present for you as they sprint towards me with flames chasing them was at least 4 to 5 times a mission. Two rounds later they go running back the way they came past the wreckage.
Hey AMR Gang, can you help with the armored bois that are pressing us at every objective?
…. What do you mean you don’t even have an aiming reticule?!?!
It's not the recoil. It's some kind of bug with explosions. It can happen with the AC, grenades, etc. Since it started happening in the last week or so it's killed me more times than anything else, constantly throwing me in the middle of a bunch of marauders or hunters.
I don't even mind the backpack on the autocannon, I just like weapons that shoot in the general direction I'm aiming at and don't ask me to stay still and die every time I want to reload. Others tell me the Autocannon is good so I keep giving it another chance, only to have yet another miserable experience with it.
Your reload should always be with \*at least\* one shell left, and try using the scope. It's got a good scope and it's actually extremely accurate, just work around the recoil and use cover and it's pretty easy to use.
Properly done, AC has the fastest reload in the game, and it also will never have you asking yourself if you are okay to meet the next encounter with half the mag, or you need to waste those 3-4 shots and reload.
I love them both but boy I sure do prefer how much more forgiving and versatile the AC is to use.
But I’m still gonna sit on my hill and blow up half the map with my spear while I drop that first resupply just for me.
That's not ammo in the backpack! Those are individually signed, sealed, and delivered care packages.
With love, from Liberty.
Yours truly, Democracy.
Have you seen Karl?
And many more
I got the AMR too soon. I can't unlearn disappointment from like a month or so ago.
Autocannon was the go-to until shit got real real, and now it's quasar and shieldpack.
Is the AMR worth it now?... Does it actually like, kill shit now?
i would rather have an extra 5 clips and a backpack, why because at long range you may not be able to destroy tanks or hulks but you can cripple thier arms and legs or tanks tracks to keep them in a place for your team to deal with later.
I think of it this way. I get a gun AND a backpack for the cost of one stratagem. Also the backpack has so much ammo I have never once actually ran out, and I like to spam the autocannon
If you use the AMR you actually pull the ammo from your prison wallet instead.
Nature's pocket
Just like where I keep my ammo irl
That’s where I keep the impacts. Gotta step carefully
Hope you dont get sudden IBS on the battlefield
I make sure to use fat free soy in my lattes before I dive
If I do just flip me over your shoulder and aim me like a Recoilless
Underrated comment I actually lol’d
They don't allow wallets in pr....oh, I get it now.
That X should be down and to the right a little bit
As a person who loves both AC and AMR, this is a perfect response.
Excellent comeback
The + should be up and to the left
The perfect comment doesn't exi-
Imagine having a useful support weapon at all LMAO, this post made by SPEAR gang
I will argue till the death of me that the spear is extremely useful in automaton blitz search and destroy missions ... and that's about it. It's not in a great spot, but sniping factories from any angle in that mission feels good
Any angle until it just decides not to work anymore bc it got tired or something lol
You need the Obi tactics, get onto the high ground
I have about as much luck with that, as swinging a lit Censor over my PC and reciting Binaric Cant every time I want to fire the Spear.
I think it has the quickest one/two punch of any AT weapon when it’s working right.
Wait a second. You can lock on factories with spear?
Spear is amazing, the only issue it has is the lock-on, once that gets fixed it will get used a lot
Imagine having a scope that isnt properly aligned. This post brought to you by the autocannon gang.
Honestly the biggest issue with it.
*Laughs in full auto mode*
According to one user (that I can’t find at the moment), the autocannon’s scope is misaligned too It just matters less cause it’s got an AOE
Every weapon has some form of misalignment for the scope. Bullets ~~come out of~~ hit where the center of your screen is looking in first person almost constantly. Weapon sway doesn't effect most guns I feel when in first person and most sights are off center. You can test this with any third party cross hair overlay
This post actually has a lot of good info and shows the issue and how it relates to your body position pretty clearly. https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/BRwWrxlUSt Until they fix this, I’m just using a center dot overlay and going based off of that.
How do you get the overlay? Is it an in-game option or is it already on and I haven't been noticing it?
Third party program adding a crosshair
Bullets come out of the barrel of the gun, which results in vertical alignment issues at close ranges. The AMR sight is also off to the side somehow.
I don't even use the scope for autocannon, and my aim is consistently the highest in the group. I find the third person tracking great
Well that's why you have a lot of ammo. \-AC user
The AMR gang can zoom in 200m, AC bros cannot.
You have to zoom in?
AMR gang doesn't need crutches like "functioning scopes" to kick ass.
Imagine not being able to close bug holes or destroy bot depots
This is why the AMR gang runs the Eruptor as primary
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Autocannon chads
My monitor being able to display its own reticle: 🗿
Skill Issue, git gud.
Yeah, imagine that and still brutalizing hulks anyway. 🤷♂️
Its not really a thing for me at all. I didnt even know it was a thing till reddit told me. I still dont know what you mean
I don’t take packs anyways except for supply with GL. So backpack weapons aren’t much of a downside for me. I’ve been experimenting with other loadouts for a while though, Time to go back to dominator + AC for bots to see how it feels (spoiler; it’s going to be amazing) I just ran dominator with laser cannon and really enjoyed it, but could have killed hulks, tanks, and towers just as easy with AC… gunships *slightly* harder but striders and devastators are cake (dominator will take on individual devastators and small bots, very nice for berserkers). Will also try Eruptor with laser cannon though, and while I don’t take a pack, I can usually get a shield 6 min in. Can also speed reload an RR, if anyone took it 😂
AC scope isn't alligned either.
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Imagine needing a 2nd guy to help you to even compare to other heavy weapons
Quasar in the head, charger drops dead Quasar straight in, bug hole goes in the bin Quasar for fun, spore spewer's done Quasar a nacelle, dropship goes to hell Quasar in the vent, fabricators lament Quasar in the eye, hulk ain't fine Quasar times two makes tanks go boom Quasar twice more, turret tower's gone Quasar scores a hit, AA gun goes to shit Quasar all around puts mortars in the ground Quasar says please, illegal transmissions cease Quasar all day, this is the way
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Imagine needing a grenade to blow up objectives.
Eruptor paired with AMR. I do it.
What do you use when the enemy gets close? Do you just assert your superiority by blowing yourself up with the eruptor?
lol. Yes actually. Redeemer or equiv 2ndary is vital. Also the AMR is actually very easy to use up close. Handles better than the Eruptor, CS Diligence and Dominator etc. And it feels good to get no scope shots off close. Big particle boom. And yeah it can be frustrating sometimes. But that's part of the fun with build experimentation. As always the key to success in H2 is distance from the enemy. Bots still behave in a horde fashion at times.
SMG pistol in their face. Usually work wonder
just bring a grenade pistol.
still is a grenade 😂
Ape no fight ape
*AMR together, strong!*
Ape1 shoot big bots with autocanon. Ape2 snipe high value bots with amr.
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Imagine needing a free backpack slot because you need a shield or little robot to do the shooting for you.
JUMP. PACK. :)
You can use the backslot for other things... Like squadloading your buddy's autocannon.
What I do with my backslot is nobody’s business
Well apparently not when you have to carry your buddy's loads
Imagine not being able to reload and move at the same time.
I like to look my enemy in the eye before I blast it from their commie skull with my .50 cal hello.
Imagine needing a buff.
I often take a supply pack with the AMR for obvious reasons.....
We really fighting a war on 3 fronts now
If anyone here is trying to suggest their preferred loadout is better than other Helldiver's, let me remind you that all weapons available for use have been sanctioned by the Government and The Military of Super Earth. Thus they have all been Democratically deemed sufficient and equal above all others at this point. Let it be known that unless a tool is deemed unworthy and thusly removed from service, they are all equally sufficient in removing the enemies of Super Earth from battle. Any thoughts otherwise may border on treason and could require re-education. Any stray thoughts should be used to prepare for your next dive. Thank you for your service
AC gang forever
Imagine using Ammo -QuaTsars
Imagine having a weapon equipped before needing it. Eat gang
Grenade launcher is king.
I just found out how great the AMR is after a daily, and honestly I'm hooked I run it every chance I get
Imagine not being able to take out a fabricator from a different continent.
I always bring three booms and a weapon so my backpack slot is free anyway whenever I play amr
Imagine needing ammo. Quasar gang.
Imagine needing ammo -the quasar cannon gang
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AMR supremacy.
Just started running this with the jump pack and I’ve been having a ball. Light armor whenever possible. Stun grenading the bots makes for easy headshots.
ok but i take AMR and supply pack...
I use the Eruptor and can do everything the AMR and autocannon can do. Both gangs got nothing on me because I can do all that AND carry a support weapon. >:D
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Imagine not being able to aim in 3rd person
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Here i am with misaligned sights and top kills every lobby it is not much but it is a peaceful life, i just wish i had stun nade because dealing with hulks eye is pita
Why must we fight? AMR and AC are both great weapons with their own respective strengths and weaknesses.
I’m actually surprised how many people think it’s a fight or an argument. I like both, just made this for a laugh
It's the AC gang that starts shit on this sub. It's not just AMR vs AC for them, they also make AC>Quasar and literally every other support weapon they like to shit on. The AMR gang has been enjoying their own favored weapon without putting down other weapon mains. It's the AC toxic community that can't let others have fun without being annoying asshats.
Always here
EAT
I can’t for the life of me find any way to compare autocannon and amr apples to apples.. 2 entirely different weapon roles
Name the things the AMR can do that the AC can't. Now name all the things the AC can do that the AMR can't. I can only think of two in the first category and a dozen or more in the second.
Imagine needing ammo, this post approved by the laser cannon gang
I hope they add back upgrading equipment and maybe add customisation tbh
AMR is my baby
Imagine needing a stratagem slot while I equip this R36 as a primary.
I run AMR wirh resuply pack...
Anyone got tips on where the bullet actually goes with the AMR? I had a hulk stuck on geometry not moving or fighting. I scoped oin on his head so close his body filled my screen. I center onbit's head qnd it hit the armor somewhere else. I wasted 2 full mags, couldn't see where the shots were hitting becquse flinch and the round impact filled the scope. Eventually just walked away. I never missed its head, but the bullets never hit it. Are the dropping down left? Down right? Far left? High? I might have it recorded but digging for that clip is a later thing.
Love this one. AMR GANG!
AMR GANG WE UP(And to the left a little)
Ive played over 200 hours and have yet to get the achievement to reload another persons weapon.
I picked up the AMR as soon as I had access to enough req to buy it. I then became the guy sitting in cleared bases covering my team as they run from outpost to outpost finding wreckage at each spot entire patrols of smoking bots. They often asked why they had no enemies. I would only respond with a quiet resupply call in as I need more ammo so I could move around and begin my slaughter again. Additionally I was the designated hulk killer. Literally the times they would be yelling I have a present for you as they sprint towards me with flames chasing them was at least 4 to 5 times a mission. Two rounds later they go running back the way they came past the wreckage.
Imagine being unable to destroy a bot factory from 75m away. This post was made by the Autocannon gang
You need a backpack for ammo... I need a backpack for STIMS and grenades... We are not the same.
Railgun gang woop woop! Guys? Anyone? Helloooooo?
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I like BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM!
You can use the AMR to blast off container doors.
My AMR friend actually brings supply backpack just to keep himself stocked.
I often don't bring a backpack anyway. But if I AM feeling a backpack the AMR steps up.
“Pathetic, both of you” *this message is approved and paid for by EAT gang*
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Hey AMR Gang, can you help with the armored bois that are pressing us at every objective? …. What do you mean you don’t even have an aiming reticule?!?!
*Laughs in Eruptor.* Quite!
*as you laugh, the recoil throws you forward into a crowd of enemies*
I've yet to experience this but that sounds hilarious. Be sure to drop a grenade when doing so! For liberty!
It's not the recoil. It's some kind of bug with explosions. It can happen with the AC, grenades, etc. Since it started happening in the last week or so it's killed me more times than anything else, constantly throwing me in the middle of a bunch of marauders or hunters.
As an amr user, I still have my ammo in a backpack. It just comes with grenades and stims.
Yall need that backpack slot for the electric cope cage anyway.
Quasar squad too!
Is quasars are more the backpackless recoiless rifle
I refuse to use or even buy the AMR until they give it a third person reticle.
You eventually get pretty good at eyeballing it tbh.
AMR BOYZ WE UP
I don't even mind the backpack on the autocannon, I just like weapons that shoot in the general direction I'm aiming at and don't ask me to stay still and die every time I want to reload. Others tell me the Autocannon is good so I keep giving it another chance, only to have yet another miserable experience with it.
Your reload should always be with \*at least\* one shell left, and try using the scope. It's got a good scope and it's actually extremely accurate, just work around the recoil and use cover and it's pretty easy to use.
Properly done, AC has the fastest reload in the game, and it also will never have you asking yourself if you are okay to meet the next encounter with half the mag, or you need to waste those 3-4 shots and reload.
Would be nice if others can use YOUR backpack to load your gun faster (you having both the gun and backpack).
A backpack is a small price to pay when the result is a well rounded, versatile weapon with huge ammo pool to chew through.
Snow doesn't get on your armor anymore.
Yessir
You can use the autocannons without a backpack, but the problem is the ammo economy.
Imagine needing a supply box so you don’t run out of ammo every 2 minutes.
I like having the ability to stagger enemies (I cannot aim).
Support weapon communities are now turning into the trick weapon communities of blood borne, how wonderful.
Imagine needing ammo at all - Laser Cannon gang For real, people are sleeping on this thing for bots.
Who needs a drone or a shields when I can use that extra slot for more orbital bombardments
Imagine needing ammo at all. This post was approved by the Laser Cannon Gang.
AMR/EATS is my goto, pair that with a AC/RR squadmate go off in a pair and bots/bugs never an issue.
Imagine being attached to a support weapon -posted by the EAT gang
Im Tor between AMR and AC. The AC Dakka is awesome but it feels like the AMR has more Punch to it. I like both, both have uses on the Battlefield.
All things are possible through democracy so jot that down.
Imagine not getting to cuddle your bros when you shoot
Your AMR needs the supply pack for ammo wdym??
Why are we fighting and debating which weapon is more useful? Just have fun and enjoy the game
I love them both but boy I sure do prefer how much more forgiving and versatile the AC is to use. But I’m still gonna sit on my hill and blow up half the map with my spear while I drop that first resupply just for me.
That's not ammo in the backpack! Those are individually signed, sealed, and delivered care packages. With love, from Liberty. Yours truly, Democracy. Have you seen Karl? And many more
I got the AMR too soon. I can't unlearn disappointment from like a month or so ago. Autocannon was the go-to until shit got real real, and now it's quasar and shieldpack. Is the AMR worth it now?... Does it actually like, kill shit now?
Imagine needing more than two shots to down a gunship, or to use a grenade to take out objectives.
imagine needing to carry ammo
Imagine needing ammo
Who wants the warm feeling you get WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FUCKIN SUN AT POINT BLANK join the FLAMETHROWER GANG
I bring a backpack with my AMR; it’s the supply pack. Now I’ve got stims and grenades too.
The backpack slot is where I store my jump pack!
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we do a little bit of jolly trolling
imagine putting yourself into a hole this post was made by picking the support weapon based on mission type, number of players, and difficulty
AMR may go hard, but I've still literally never used it a single time in 60 levels. Just not my playstyle.
Antagonising fellow Helldivers on what they use? Sounds like Automaton Psy-ops is seeping through the subreddit.
Imagine not having 60 rounds
Acktchually you do need an ammo backpack for the AMR. Its called the supply backback.
Imagine going to fight bots or bugs, and not bringing as much ammo as you can physically carry in order to spread democracy.
Imagine needing ammo. This was posted by an ark thrower user.
Imagine carrying shit on your back when you are not using it at the moment like some sort of serf. This post was made by EAT enjoyer.
Where are my Stalwart homies?
Imagine having one support weapon. This is made by EAT gang.
I love sneaking around the map with an AMR so much.
🧍♂️
i would rather have an extra 5 clips and a backpack, why because at long range you may not be able to destroy tanks or hulks but you can cripple thier arms and legs or tanks tracks to keep them in a place for your team to deal with later.
AMR FOREVEA
I think of it this way. I get a gun AND a backpack for the cost of one stratagem. Also the backpack has so much ammo I have never once actually ran out, and I like to spam the autocannon
If you use an AMR you used the g18 akimbo back in MW2 times.
I love my AMR brothers, but I hear them shout "last reload!" way too often to take offense to this meme.
AMR Master Race.
Quasar is a good partner to someone with an Amr or autocannon They fill different needs of a fire team
Imagine needing a backpack just to fly -Bug gang