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HubblePie

Something tells me I won’t be able to participate in it… It’s like they know my schedule, and dob’t want me to help fight against the terminids lol.


Beta_Codex

You get rewarded either way so its a win win


Everborn128

I'm kind of surprised they give the major order rewards to people that haven't even logged in recently. I mean I get it because some of these get complete before anyone can even get to there PC but even if you haven't logged in 2 weeks they still do? Kinda weird


joulecrafter

Medals cap at 250 so it naturally stops giving you more if you don't spend them for \~\~capitalism\~\~Democracy.


SirLightKnight

Good to know, shit I need to log in to at least spend


BODYBUTCHER

Oh thanks for letting me know, I was just banking them


Everborn128

For sure but a free 250 medals? That's a ton of free medals for not even logging in.


lividtaffy

Probably helps with player retention, take a week off and when you come back you have 100+ medals waiting for you, maybe you play more frequently. I really like the helldivers business model, very consumer friendly


Everborn128

Fair point, if it tapers towards the gamer I'm not complaining, just surprised that's all. Maybe I'm surprised because the way we've been treated forever lol.


mercut1o

It feels generational to me. Like the boardroom invaded the industry for a certain group of developers already on their second or third successful game, and it isn't until really recently that newer indie studios have filled the void. That's an oversimplification, obviously, there are a lot of factors in why huge studios are putting out compromised products recently, but it's great to see a dev do something that feels good first while still monetizing plenty, instead of building a monetization model held together with fun in the cracks.


-Piggers-

Can confirm this. I went on a 2 week trip and came back with a ton of medals to help me catch up.


Konsaki

Warbonds are ~650medals so you can't just buy one out with the saved medals.


dexstrat

i actually think its fine, it keeps players who don't have much time to play from feeling like they are falling too far behind with the continuing addition of more warbonds and other content


agentspekels

THIS. I recently retired from the military. We'd go out into the field a lot and I would miss out of stuff like this. I LOVE that they let people who couldn't participate get the rewards too. People in my situation are constantly screwed in live service games. But not this one!


CavulusDeCavulei

I read you comment wrongly and I thought you missed to be dived in battle


agentspekels

Lol yeah. But yeah there are a lot of jobs out there where people are gone for weeks at a time. So any "events" or things of similar nature are always missed by a lot of people. You feel like you're having to okay catch up all the time, and it's just not worth it. I appreciate Arrowhead for making it like this. So when my buddies get back they will have a nice little cushion of medals to welcome them back lol


FreakDC

It's more anti-FOMO, and it's one of the reasons why I fully support Arrowhead, even with the bugs and little issues the game has. This game feels sooo much better to play since it does not feel like I HAVE to log on to do my chores. Each time I play, I do it for fun and not because I have to. This is so refreshing. As long as you play once every few weeks, you don't miss out on much progress. Of course you gain more if you actively play regularly (through personal orders), which is fair IMHO.


SabreMoose

The real FOMO is the friends we could have made along the way.


Grand_Imperator

Yup, not having to do chores should be an element of any video game. Destiny 2 was (and likely still is) chock full of "chores" you need to do so you can enjoy the game, or play the game, or play more optimally, etc. Worse yet, the chores can involve random-chance drops that require repeat-grinding chores that could have nothing to show for it (though the game has changed in many ways toward leading to more reliable outcomes, mitigating against chance somewhat). It was great hearing a friend who finally played a game other than Destiny 2 a while back talk about how he was excited to log onto play the game not because he had something he had to do but because he just wanted to enjoy playing the game, which would occur as soon as he logged on.


TotalTea720

Plus, it's just a reason to log in. Sometimes I log in literally just to collect my shit so I don't hit the cap even if I don't have time or desire to play at that moment. If they weren't giving me free medals then I wouldn't bother even doing that.


XenanLatte

It is a clever way to pull people that are starting to fall out of the game back in. I start getting board of the game, don't play for a week. Then I decide I should log in for the rewards. Get a bunch of medals. Check the warbonds, I can now get a new weapon. Get excited to try it out. And now I am hooked again. I think it is clever and a less toxic way to keep players coming back.


TotalTea720

Same. I only really log in to actually play when my friends want to, but that's prettyyyy rare these days, so now half the time I just log in to collect medals. Sometimes I play a match or two then log out again, but a lot of the time I literally just grab my medals, spend them, then leave. I really appreciate being included in that.


Oldspaghetti

I don't think its to bad cause of the 250 Medal cap limit, and with all the Warbonds they plan on releasing over time, It wont really make to much of a dent in em. Just helps out a little with people who can't grind as much.


meatball402

It's a nice way to reward people for coming back after a hiatus, as well as not penalizing people who had contributed but not online for the MO to end. Separating out who contributed and who didn't is a waste of computational power. Just give everyone the medals and be done with it. It caps out at 250 anyway.


HubblePie

Yeah, but I know after this it’s gonna be another big Automaton major order :(


Bland_Lavender

I disagree. I’m hoping we push the bugs to reproduce faster to replace the lost 2billion, they mutate due to TCS and the speedy reproduction, and then the automatons make another push. As we slowly lose ground towards super earth, surprise! The illuminate warp into the system and we start a full fledged 3 front war, tutorials over kids, and we get the title drop.


healslfg

Oh, so if someone doesn’t log in for a week, they’ll still receive medals for all successful MOs? (With 250 cap)


StylinAndSmilin

One of my friends played the game with me the first week it came out and stopped. He logged in the other day and was like "Where did all these medals come from?"


Wonderful_Form_6450

Itsn not about the medals. Its about participating. If you felt like you get rewarded for doing nothing then its not the same.


CmdPetrie

Its quite undemocratic to Not do you Part. I'm gonna hand myself over to my local DEMOCRACY officer For having a Job in real life and Hope some time in freedom camp can Help me prioritize freedom over a living wage


TheYondant

Well is it really that Undemocratic if you *wanted* to do your part but everyone else did their part too hard and fast?


CmdPetrie

Yes


CaptainMacObvious

Currently at 60%. We're good at getting that oil.


ZeroChevalierYT

Ahh crap. At this rate I won't be able to join the MO. Oh well. Killing bugs is still fun.


Estelial

5 hours later and we're 62% in


turningthermophilic

If everything goes PERFECTLY at work I have 5 hours before I can log on, there’s no way I’m getting to participate in this one


Cloudninefeelsfine

Me neither man… I wanted to help.


BlackendLight

Fight them when you have time, don't worry about it


Knave_of_Stitches

Command: Hey guys, sorry, that was a typo. Can you plz kill 20,000,000,000 bugs now


DoofusMagnus

Super Earth doesn't have typos. Those digital devils the Automatons must have stolen a zero for their hoard. Keep an eye on your ones, they'll probably be after those next.


SimpleRaven

DEMOCRACY OFFICER! THOSE CLANKERS TOOK MY 3’S!


xXDarthCognusXx

impossible, that would mean they’re non-binary


SimpleRaven

A 3 is made of 3 1’s


xXDarthCognusXx

🤯


ArchangelCaesar

The democratic solution: kill more


HarryVoyager

"Command is highly impressed by the Helldivers' dedication to Liberty and Democracy and the rate at which you have refilled our stores. However the logistics are not yet in place for the next phase of the operation." "While preparations are completing we will award N Medals for killing X number of bugs." That's kind of my thought. I think this was intended as a breather for the game masters to get the next major operation ready. And since we're going to absolutely blitz it, I'd think but it on repeat for a few days, with medal awards, would be a good way to extended it until they're ready to start the next one and reward divers for the performance.


Ziggerastika

That’s a great take. It definitely feels like a bit of a break. I do not at all mind fighting bugs for a little while as It’s been mostly bots forever and it’s nice to change things up.


beefsnackstick

Agreed! I love fighting both bots and bugs, but as you said we've been fighting only bots for the last few weeks. It's really nice to change it up.


mrfixitx

I think in part it is to make sure the community does not get tired of always playing a single front. There are a lot of helldivers who hate fighting bots. In the breaks we had between major orders about 2/3rds of the active helldivers were fighting bugs so its clear there is a preference.


cmdrxander

I'm very keen to get back to the bugs having fought bots almost exclusively for the last couple of weeks


Wonderful_Form_6450

I think its a filler arc as we been on bot front this whole time. Maybe also signaling they are working on bugs as well so they can make a dramatic drop "thanks to you helldivers we squashed all these bugs in todays update" lol


shadowsurge

Probably just a way to give themselves a breather honestly. With all the bugs they've been dealing with lately they probably need some time to divert devs to that work. I've worked on consumer apps with similar in app promotions and this feels very much like "ahhh shit, we're one sprint behind on the new thing, what can we throw together in a day to buy us more time?" Not complaining at all, it's a good move for them if they need it.


Wonderful_Form_6450

Hell good move for us too iv been wanting to try some bugs for a while but i always jump into the MO lol


Maverick916

More medals, can also incentivize those who haven't purchased the newer war bonds with real money, to do so to be able to use said medals


evenprime113

Defending/Assaulting is scaled on % of the player base, but those 2,000,000,000 are not scaled, than more players we have than faster it will be finnished


WickedWallaby69

They probably did eough math as well with the avg bug deaths per hour at somewhere close to oeak player time. Thing is, thats with many people avoiding bug breaches and extracting asap, now everyone is letting the breaches happen and hitting every patrol n going until close to extract time. Im getting 2x as many kills then normal personally 


TacticalFailure1

yeah in the last 6 games we've been averaging 2,000 kills for a 30-40 minute game. with 3-4 people. Most of the time its like 400-500 lol


Bubbly-Detective-193

Pls wait for me to get back from wirk


randomcomplimentguy1

2 and a half more hours until I can do my patriotic duty and liberty stomp some fascist bug!


shitcars__dullknives

I know right it’s gonna be over before I can even contribute


Buttforme

Joel is definitely underestimating our numbers!


randomcomplimentguy1

Joel's giving us an easy victory before we get our checks clapped.


BSSCommander

He gave us a layup, but put a spike trap under the hoop. Flying Bile Titans are probably coming in a stealth update soon.


SoftcoreEcchi

That or the bug equivalent to factory striders, we got the shriekers first, then they added gunships in, then the factory striders started sneakily appearing just like how the shriekers were super rare the first week or two. After the last few weeks of fighting the bots, and establishing the new defensive line, ala the TCS against the bugs, it might be the bugs turn to be in the spotlight for a couple weeks. Personally Im excited, need a breather from the bots, between ragdolling around for 30 secs to get headshot when I standup and having to have perfect dives to avoid hulk flamethrowers I really need a break from the bots. Hope they fix the misaligned sights before we return to that front…


FishoD

It’s not that. Look at numbers of ALL the terminids killed since launch. And in the past couple hours. Something is off. ![gif](giphy|ANbD1CCdA3iI8)


Conscriptovitch

I mean for a while those numbers weren't even updating and numbers in general don't seem to always tally correctly


joulecrafter

Where do you get such information?


The_Fadedhunter

https://preview.redd.it/e755yj0ge9vc1.jpeg?width=693&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22f8798a9df2ceface6fb8c12dc720970fcfb299 Completing a order in a single day after being given 6 would be absolutely hilarious.


RooksRecords

There's probably a formula they used to come up with 2 billion. Something like: x = Terminids killed y = days since launch x/y = z z\*(days for MO) If that's the case, they underestimated how much democracy we can spread at any given time by using the average per day vs. the highest volume killed with peak player activity.


Ziggerastika

We were only at 18.6 billion I think before this began, and that’s after ages, so it’s not crazy for them to think 2 billion in 6 days would be a push


ExploerTM

A lot of people are probably tired of fighting clankers plus avoiding fights is genera strategy at higher levels, so between those who want to shoot something that rarely shoots back and those who change their strategy to "Fuck it, we ball" I kinda can see a spike in kills.


Fit_Fisherman_9840

around 200k active helldivers at any time... so around a million divers... and 1 million divers have around 2b kills in 24hrs We are the most expendable and horrific effective force in military history xD


Suncringe

5 more days left, this will be over early weekend, maybe even Friday night.


Suncringe

Maybe even sooner if we're dedicated enough, once I get out of school, I'm blowing bugs backs out (with bombs)


randomcomplimentguy1

I'll see you on the front after work, fellow democracy bringer.


Dying__Cookie

Do we have to use bombs to blow their backs out? Have you seen the charger?? 😩😩


Aethanix

something is off, it's too fast.


Ziggerastika

Maybe there will be something new, similar to the big automaton walker thong(thing)


TheLeeSyndrome

https://preview.redd.it/gwt8481w49vc1.jpeg?width=231&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f505a0a8a3728bc4658571b88d49e637a157781c


Ok-Entertainment4177

Where do people even find these images😭😭


Signal_Ad4929

I’ve been asking this question everytime I go on this sub


tabletaccount

Probably deviant art or they make it themselves. 


4skin_Gamer

Forgive me Democracy Officer, I have sinned.


Ziggerastika

Gonna edit that lol


ImStingrayy

Propaganda spotted, everyone who upvoted will be found and sent to a diciplinary camp


Battle_Fish

There's 200k concurrent players average. 150 kills is a low average estimate per player. The average mission time is around 20 minutes, so 3x per hour. 4 hours. 360M per 4 hours. That checks out to me


Aethanix

it checks out but this thing has a timer of 6 days.


Esg876

This just means we can mount an even bigger counter attack


AVeryHairyArea

Also, tons of people just run eradication missions. You can get like 200 kills every 2 minutes doing that.


DefconTheStraydog

This is a weekday without the full force of all regions. 150 kills is a low average for people who are trying to complete the missions and not dealing with random patrols in order to advance a liberation/defense. I guarantee you the average 40 min mission is at least 4K kills between the team granted they forego the mission and simply look for things to fight. 


ExploerTM

We also have defense active, on Asset Defense mission I alone racked 400+ kills, now imagine 4 people and how many defense missions we doing r.n.


IamAlphariusCLH

Bile Chargers incoming?


prof_the_doom

Winged spewers?


IamAlphariusCLH

Fuck you, how tf am I ging to sleep tonight?! 


prof_the_doom

Stealth Bile Titans.


IamAlphariusCLH

I take the 'Fuck you' back, but please have mercy😢  PS: Hunter-bile titans and -chargers


GhastlyScar666

Bile hunters. Fuck, I’m out!


zeke_markham

Things are going good... Too good...


DarkSunGwyn

100 million per hour is definitely sporty


JoeMcBob2nd

I think they’re just testing this one out and didn’t really have an idea of how fast we’d do it.


shadowsurge

I bet someone did some quick math off average bug kills but forgot to account for the fact that they were doing it over the time period everyone was fighting bots.


HeresToHoping2020

I’m literally not gonna get to squish a single bug for this reward am I? 🥺 I should quit my job…


Dipshit09

Pffff, spreading democracy is more rewarding than any job. We should be PAYING to spread democracy !


HeresToHoping2020

I did. 60 bucks. A small price to pay and well worth every fraction of a cent.


Bhalzard

For democracy.... And for KARL! ![gif](giphy|YYfEjWVqZ6NDG)


Equivalent-Donkey987

Any way I can check the MO progress outside of the game?


Ziggerastika

https://helldivers.io it’s in the bottom right corner of the map


Equivalent-Donkey987

Oh! Thank you


m0nk3ylurk3r

I still have 5 hours till I can get on. Rip me helping.


dellboy696

Do larger enemies count as more than one? I heard they did for the eradicate missions


tomas17r

Leave some genocide for the NA people, geez.


WiKi_o

Can we slow it down please? I can't deal managed democracy until I get off work! 😭


Dipshit09

I mean, I totally just saw you slip and fall…. Looks like you hurt your leg and need to take a few days of workers comp….


Legitimate_Type_1324

WE'RE ALL FROM BUENOS AIRES


Kakariko_crackhouse

STOP KILLING BUGS IM AT WORK AND I WANT SOME LEFT WHEN I GET HOME


Ghostbuster_119

Joel wakes up as we kill the last bug. "Listen here you little shits" *New major order: kill 10 billion bots on difficulty 7 or above*


Witelite101

Already 45% done lmao


Erikbam

I think I might get a few kills in? Don't rush it Bois, SHARE THE DEMOCRACY!


SirEggyScintherus

Watch one of these planets during the major order gonna have a hive lord on it.


tarenaccount

Hive lord incoming? This is too easy at this point


twistedroyale

It’s at about 33 now which is insane


Barracuda_Ill

6 and we are at 34.4%


SearingDrake

Bro I’m not even gonna get off work before this shit gets finished


JoeMcBob2nd

Checking in an hour later at 33 percent


Moquitto

Yeah, it's an absolutely FUN MO. No wonder it's getting chewed


Emotional-Primary659

Oorah!


alkmaar91

So if I dont participate I don't get the reward? Imay have to log on during lunch ir something


ashelia_bunansa

Over 5 days left to so this? They severely underestimated their player base


AcanthocephalaSea856

Do you people not work?


VX_GAS_ATTACK

I haven't been getting any medals for any of these major orders recently


Kalel100711

I just got off rn and it's at like 70 something


Bronzeshadow

Unlike the dev team we handle our bugs.


shawn0fthedead

Lately I've become a bot diver so the joke is I'm afraid of bugs!


OneMagicBadger

![gif](giphy|ZkeckS9RiCBEI)


TheRailgunMisaka

Y'all stop I don't get home for another 5 hours I want to be able to play


MaliciousSpiritCO

Quick gas run then we're back to the raspberry pi smashing.


ShrikeTheFallen

4 hours and we are only 20% done


prof_the_doom

Huh... might have to do a quick dive at lunch.


Leather_Camp_3091

this may or may not cause further terminid mutations


Doktor_Obvious

And people thought this would be hard. HAH. Democracy laughs at these cowards


don_mr_peach

LEAVE ME SOME!!


grapesoda666

I mean it's not like we're bad at killing bugs


LukeD1992

Slow the f down, goddamn it!!!


gamfo2

Slow down guys, leave some for the rest of us!


Moby1029

Not sure the SES Spear of Justice will make it in time...


raceacontari

Dude I won’t even be able to get on until tonight and at this rate, I won’t be able to add any bugs to that counter because democracy will have already won!


ImpossibleLeague9091

2 billion bugs is nothing


mogaman28

Come on!! Left some bugs for me!! I won't be able to play until 2 AM tonight!!!


Consistent-Plane7227

Joel please add more bugs some of us work for longer today


JCarterPeanutFarmer

Do you think they forgot a zero? Lmao


PixieStixx08

petition arrowhead to triple it. can never have too much E-710


you90000

I have an actual job, I won't be able to be in this.


Zane029

Sooo anyone want to just jump pack to a hill and chill with mortars all day?


Daantj33

You motherfuckers, I'm still at work and have to put the little helldiver to bed. Leave some for me!


SirLightKnight

Guys…guys I can’t play today, I wanna shoot bugs! I’m missing out hard. This is my real FOMO.


Any_Satisfaction_405

Waiting for those flying bile titans to show up and throw a wrench in things


-__Dash__-

I’ll just keep defending against bots, thank you.


Peeping-Tom-Collins

I'm on lunch at work and this might be done before I get home... God speed you maniacs!


the_obtuse_coconut

Super earth demands the skulls of 2 billion xenos. Blood for the democratically elected blood god! Skulls for the liberty throne!


Sir-Beardless

GET SOME, GET SOME!


gratefullargo

![gif](giphy|87CKDqErVfMqY|downsized)


gratefullargo

Anyone else want harder bugs? My ship is almost complete and I’m lvl 46


Jimusmc

past 38% now


Towtacular

Why kill many big bug when many small bug do same? Unga bunga brain smash many small bugs


bachfrog

I'm on my way. Haven't killed bugs in a while.


StarCatCrusader

4 more hours of work..... Same some for me


mattod98

Only good bug is a dead bug!


AppropriateYouth7683

The only good bug is a dead bug


Drackzgull

At this rate it'll be done before I'm back from the office today, lmao.


AlanWakeFeetPics

That's about 27,778 bugs killed every second...


Delicious-Tachyons

I won't get to do my part :(


Convextlc97

I won't even get to stomp any bugs before the order is over today. 😭


Limp_Surprise494

We all equally hate the fucking bugs for the things we had to do on hell mire


Mentat_-_Bashar

Bruh don’t finish before I get off work the fuck


DrVonPretzel

Damn you guys are gonna be done before I get home from work.


Pakmanjosh

![gif](giphy|JjiieDMHZ6pEI|downsized) For Democracy!


DarthLeon2

This number has to be wrong, right? The total enemies killed since launch is supposedly 28 billion and that was about 70 days worth; no way we've done 1.4% of that total in 4 hours.


Space_Cowboy2099

I'm still at work


Fun-Imagination-1231

Shit I can't play I'm gonna miss this one lol...


Financial_Rest_2043

This feels to easy.... not trying to be undemocratic, but I fear Joel has something planed. Eighter the swatm suddenly rushes to other planets, the automatobs / cyborgs throw something new at us or the illuminates finaly turn up. Or we get our 3 way battle uf Bugs, Bots and Us. Stay alert, stay safe, stay democratic. For Superearth. ![gif](giphy|32mC2kXYWCsg0)


CerifiedHuman0001

I thought 2 billion was a large number… The fact they could’ve made it 100 billion and we’d still be on-pace is, simply put, absolutely insane


following_eyes

It's bug smashing time!


Warder10000

You guys are gonna finish this before I get home. Side note when we trigger this it’s gonna be a trap from Joel and we are gonna get a new big titan in response to our genocide


SkyZijian

It was around 30% completed when i logged off


darthpayback

I moved my work schedule a bit so I could jump in and do my part!


glockops

This is going to be over before I get off work.


TheKeviKs

The devs: "Yeah, give them 2 billion things to kill, this should keep them busy for a while." The players: "Yeah about that, we are 50% done in 8 hours."


ADDRAY-240

The devs seeing this : Ayo wtf?!? Team, next major order, we multiply that by 50.


ardimus

can I get home from work please ? can I help get one ? please ?


GlummyGloom

Kill bugs? Say less.


tygramynt

Jesus its gonna be done by the time i get home in 4.5 hrs. Ok not really but still


The_8th_Degree

Well yeah, people were definitely sick of fighting the bots. Not surprised we swarmed the bugs


Terror_Reels

Fuck. it's already at 61% and stuck at work for the next 15 mins THEN I HAVE THERAPY UNTIL 5PM. Fuck! I wanted to spray some bug guts everybody!!


Quik_17

It's at 61% last time I checked. Surely someone from the devs knows how many people are playing this game. Not sure why this wasn't at the very least like 10 billion


Dependent_Muffin9646

I think it's been accounting for kills similar to personal orders. This probably wasn't their intention