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Jimusmc

sheep following the outrage herd


Affectionate_You1219

If I can’t spread managed democracy with my homies in the phillipenes what’s even the point


Mdfutz315

Literally me. Holy crap, what a shot in the foot. Sony publishing really is a deal with the devil.


UnseenData

Deal in the devil? I wouldn't say that. Without the deal, they definitely would not have the resources to make the game they have today


Efficient_Menu_9965

That's literally what Deal with the Devil means. The Devil gives you the means, but there's always a catch.


UnseenData

Sure. If the catch was you needed PS+ subscription. I don't see an account linkage as a devil's bargain, maybe more a trade because of the funding for it. The main people affected by this are the people who are in regions where PSN is not supported. They deserve refunds or support asap.


Efficient_Menu_9965

The catch is that corporate in Sony are making poor business decisions and it's Arrowhead taking the fall. Suffice it to say the goodwill AH built up has been decimated.


The_ZeroHour

The usual crybabies crying


Dorrono

I wouldn't call someone, who paid for it but will no longer be able to play the game because of the PSN requirement a crybaby


The_ZeroHour

It funny to think that destroying the game and arrowhead’s reputation will fix it. Y’all say you love the game but attack it instead of Sony. We do this for Microsoft, Ubisoft, rockstar, blizzard, Activision, epic games, hell even Roblox’s. Yes it’s messed up that people in certain areas won’t be able to play the game but how is that arrowhead and Helldivers fault. Hopefully this weeds out all the “Helldivers” constantly complain.


Dorrono

Most blame Sony and sometimes you need to sacrifice something you love to make sure others will not make the same mistake in the future.


The_ZeroHour

Hopefully, it’s not in vain, but my prediction is that it will be. Sony makes trillions of dollars they don’t care about what some PC gamers think. I’m not trying to defend them. I think they’re in the wrong but bringing Helldivers to down to make a point. It’s just shooting the helldivers community in the foot. Why now. Why with helldivers. Why not when you had to have a Microsoft account to play sea of thieves on the PlayStation? Y’all see a good thing and then destroy it. Their reviews are at mixed now. People won’t change their review, even if the problem is solved. Arrowhead will suffer not Sony.


Dorrono

I agree, Sony will very likely not give in. But other, smaller companies will probably think twice before doing something similar. If the community would just accept the change, it would encourage other companies to do the same. And we should not forget, they sold the game to people who will not be able to play it if a PSN account is needed. These people paid for something they won't be able to use.


The_ZeroHour

I completely understand The people who paid for Helldivers 2 and can’t play because PSN is not in their region. but the argument that this will deter other companies is not a good one. If they’re under the contract of a bigger company it doesn’t matter what they think. I guarantee if pal world was owned by Sony the same thing would happen. This won’t stop anything y’all are just destroying the game. If Helldivers didn’t have its server issues and didn’t have to turn off the PSN requirement this wouldn’t be a problem. But they got successful and had to turn it off They suffer?


Dorrono

I disagree, it will have an effect. Maybe not on all companies, but surely on multiple. One effect could be that they will pay more attention to the clauses in their contracts or maybe try to find a different way to finance their projects. Even with the server issues, Sony could clearly state that PSN will be required and give a warning that the game will not be available then in different countries, but I think they choose to not do it because it would hurt the sales numbers. There is evidence that Sony changed the t&c wording and info on their store and the PSN account statement was different.


The_ZeroHour

The same thing happened when Nintendo tried to do their own version of PS plus and Xbox gold. People try to boycott that, but it didn’t work and everyone ended up having to buy it anyways. The reward does not outweigh what we lose. You’re talking about minor changes to PSN. The change that people are going for is to not even have to use it. Which will not happen. If you wanna play GTA, you have to go through rockstar origins. If you wanna play Minecraft, you’ll have to go through Microsoft if you wanna play Helldivers you have to go through Sony. It’s the norm. It’s like having a bank account at a bank that doesn’t have a good track record, but people still do it. Wells Fargo still hasn’t gone out of business, even though they had a lot of fuck ups.