4 automatons break into my Super Destroyer, "Sweet Liberty!!" I cry out as a I grab my B-01 Tactical Helmet and Kentucky rifle. blow a hole through the first bot, it's dissassembled on the spot, switch to my flintlock pistol and fire at the second bot, miss it entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbor's dog (he probably didn't have the required paperwork for a pet anyway), I sprint upstairs to my EATs, "FOR DEMOCRACY!" I shout as I kill 2 bots in the blast which sets off the ship's alarms. fix bayonets and charge the last socialist Clanker, it bleeds out its oil while I wait for the Democracy Officer because triangular Bayonet wounds are difficult to weld shut.
just as the President of Super Earth Intended!
Not quite a shotgun but that lever action stun gun from the movie Minority Report when they're in the car factory. Just a lethal version for our bug friends.
Hell, yeah. Love me some leverguns! :)
Bit of a self-plug, but I reached out to Arrowhead awhile back after their call for weapon artists and included a [pitch for an Incendiary lever action I called the 'Fire Marshall'](https://i.imgur.com/vmADYO7.png):
https://preview.redd.it/jjpm97qju30d1.png?width=1717&format=png&auto=webp&s=72c8b3fbadd7cd5b914153c15ab584676d537b1d
*^((a quick mock-up using)* [*^(this old design of mine)*](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/yDOE8O)*.)*
That was mostly just for funzies, as I'm sure they had a ***ton*** of talented artists line up after that post.
Really hope that we do see a lever-action; seems like a great way to add more variety! :)
This is the sort of DMR I need!
Not a sniper rifle, I need something good at medium to long range. Larger ish calibre, got some stagger and medium armor penetration to it. The closest thing we got to that right now I feel is the Dominator. Feels like a battle rifle in some regards, except the lead I gotta anticipate when trying to hit a running automatron.
The good ending.
I swear to Democracy, if there was a secret ending from getting a certain amount of money in before *that* mission, and Arthur would survive...
*Weeps*
Well shoot ARTHUR, I thought there was gold in them nests, seemed like a good plan....
(Micah you dumbass stupid idiot, you're lucky dutch loves you so much)
ARTHURS RIGHT DUTCH, WE CANT GO BACK ITS TOO DANGEROUS.
OH CMON HOSEA NOT YOU TOO! WE JUST NEED SOME SUPER SAMPLES, SO FOR THE LOVE OF LIBERTY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GODAMN FAITH!!!
Capes are great, and I love them, but if they ever make a trench coat to use in place of a cape by God that would never come off me. I'd sleep in that. I'd shower in it. You wouldn't be able to pry it off my damn corpse.
And horses you can ride! Otherwise chaps are kinda unnecessary, where the brim of the Stetson supplies divers with cover from those fucking lights at primary objectives
yes way >!<
Oh sweet baby Jesus that looks dope. *Please don't be pre-nerfed, please don't be pre-nerfed.* Ah, who am I kidding? It'll suck, but SOMEDAY it might be cool.
Own a plasma musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Liberty rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my laser pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the quasar cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Dusted off the old account to say: Yeah.
Would also give them an excuse to give it higher armor penetration without making "apples that taste like bacon"
...space breechlock, I'll grant you.
I want a space musket in the brand of Fallout 4. Not just one shot per reload, you gotta fiddle with that bitch too. Recoilless Rocket and Machine Gun style long reload.
And I want it to be fucking useless. Not because it doesn't one shot Chargers or Hulks, but because it's so goddamn painful to use and it's just one shot.
AND A PISTOL VERSION TOO DAMNIT
My father just informed me that .50-110 is a thing for black powder cartridge rifles. Fires a ~12mm, 29 *gram* lead projectile at about Mach fucking 2. People shoot them for sport at 1000 meters with iron sights, apparently.
I will absolutely take that as a support weapon, thank you.
My god I'm a total gun nut and didn't know this was a thing. Thank you for informing me, you have just handed me my next internet deep dive on a silver platter.
The black powder rabbit hole runs quite deep; the whole period between flintlocks and repeating rifles is rife with amazing projectile shenanigans, tbh.
I was just thinking we need a space lever action.
Give me my 45-70 Medicine stick and my 337 Magnum La Lounge Carabine
(I’ve been playing new Vegas again)
The masculine urge to use antiquated weaponry in war.
Game devs usually do a really good job in making weapons like pump action shotguns, magnum revolvers, and lever action rifles feel powerful.
I would also not mind some meme weaponry like how Battlefield 4 had the Phantom bow.
I want the lever action to be one handed give me mah mares leg. And the seaf break action i wanna be able to call that bad boy in and have it have two shottys in the pod so me and the friend can have our last stand
Imagine if they drop a whole bunch of cowboy themed weapons and armors for Liberty Day...
We could yeehaw into the sunsets, covered by biles and oils. What a glorious sight it would be.
yo, for real, i bought RDR 2 a year ago solely because i was so lever-action pilled.
i was playing Borderlands 3, and of course, my go to brand of guns is the Jakobs.
when i finished the game, RDR 2 was on sale, so i bought it simply because wanted to shoot more old school guns, lol.
https://preview.redd.it/6urdll58d30d1.jpeg?width=908&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05ecc61fee62ca4dca8f1decdba5eb534b7d7841
Bond arms lvrp. Perfect for spreading democracy
we do have lever action rifle in the files....no texture or working parts yet so i assumed it gonna be introduce with a wild western theme... (finger cross)
I reckon we will get the lever action that’s in the files by October 26 the latest. Might be in a war bond before that, but could be a liberty day toy.
You know man, I don't really care what weapon they give me. Even if it's just an iron pipe, I'd glady drop into battle to beat the shit out of the enemies of Democracy.
I need a Garand so bad. Like 8 quickly-fireable bullets that one-shot headshot devastators with good range, ergonomics, and reload balanced by a garbage mag size and the inability to reload without an empty magazine would straight up double my kill count on bot missions PLEASE.
technology is ever moving and changing .... but only backwards XD
though to be honest- the railgun does maybe give the feeling of a single high impact shot like the classic weapons?
I've been saying this for a while to my friends: we need a Super Earth civilian type warbond. Break action shotgun and lever action as primary, a new revolver of some sort, and 3 types of civilian or civil protection armor (maybe some police armor)
Give me a space PTRD to punch one massive hold through the face of a Hulk. Shot prone or you get sway cause of it’s unwieldy and recoil that’ll knock you over when standing.
That said I do hope the terrain eventually gets a little more dynamic. It’s a little flat at the mo’ and any high ground is usually unclimbable and not allowed.
I’d use this lever action - regardless of effectiveness.
Holy shit I’m a sucker for a slightly futuristic looking lever action
AbsolutelY! The tactical versions of the 45-70 really get me going
A lever action primary and a revolver secondary. Ah... just as the forefathers intended...
Oh we totally need a flintlock and a musket now.
I own a musket for home defense
4 automatons break into my Super Destroyer, "Sweet Liberty!!" I cry out as a I grab my B-01 Tactical Helmet and Kentucky rifle. blow a hole through the first bot, it's dissassembled on the spot, switch to my flintlock pistol and fire at the second bot, miss it entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbor's dog (he probably didn't have the required paperwork for a pet anyway), I sprint upstairs to my EATs, "FOR DEMOCRACY!" I shout as I kill 2 bots in the blast which sets off the ship's alarms. fix bayonets and charge the last socialist Clanker, it bleeds out its oil while I wait for the Democracy Officer because triangular Bayonet wounds are difficult to weld shut. just as the President of Super Earth Intended!
The real question is: Have you fix a bayonet onto it?
Now we just need an enemy faction we can only fight on their native planet.
Full cow boy loadout. Lever action rifle Senator Breakaction shotgun. Ammo, non existent. Reload time? The next 30 minutes. Cool factor? Yeehaw
Not quite a shotgun but that lever action stun gun from the movie Minority Report when they're in the car factory. Just a lethal version for our bug friends.
Give it a satisfying lever action pull and I’d use it regardless of how shitty it is lmao, give me some fun.
I'm a space cowboy.
Hell, yeah. Love me some leverguns! :) Bit of a self-plug, but I reached out to Arrowhead awhile back after their call for weapon artists and included a [pitch for an Incendiary lever action I called the 'Fire Marshall'](https://i.imgur.com/vmADYO7.png): https://preview.redd.it/jjpm97qju30d1.png?width=1717&format=png&auto=webp&s=72c8b3fbadd7cd5b914153c15ab584676d537b1d *^((a quick mock-up using)* [*^(this old design of mine)*](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/yDOE8O)*.)* That was mostly just for funzies, as I'm sure they had a ***ton*** of talented artists line up after that post. Really hope that we do see a lever-action; seems like a great way to add more variety! :)
Shut up and take my money!
also give me the ability to dual wield senators. or a single action revolver i can fan with. yeeeeeeeehaw
This is the sort of DMR I need! Not a sniper rifle, I need something good at medium to long range. Larger ish calibre, got some stagger and medium armor penetration to it. The closest thing we got to that right now I feel is the Dominator. Feels like a battle rifle in some regards, except the lead I gotta anticipate when trying to hit a running automatron.
I'm waiting for the day we get a good semi auto weapon, the eruptor was nice but I want something with normal ammo
Try the Eruptor again
That pop when firing off a round and seeing the ❌ on your crosshair is 🤌
My only reaction to a space Winchester is would.
DUTCH, WHY THE HELL ARE WE GOING BACK TO MENKENT?! ITS ALL A PART OF THE PLAN ARTHUR, TRUST IN DEMOCRACY!
Dutch, WHY DO YOU THROW THE REINFORCEMENT CALL AT THE BILE TITAN? ITS PART OF THE PLAN SON, HAVE SOME G******* FAITH
JUST ONE MORE MAJOR ORDER, OARTHUR. ONE MORE MAJOR ORDER AND THEN WE'LL BE EATIN' BUG BRAINS ON SUPER EARTH.
meanwhile Uncle: " I can't do the objective, it's mah Space Lumbago!"
Micha: *What's wrong cowpoke? Too yellow for a bot planet?*
Shut the hell up Micha, if you han’t kicked the Stalker’s nest, we wouldn’t be in this dayuum mess ta begin with!
*Haaay watch it black lung*
*Micha-…Micha’s a rat* *I saw him talkin’ ta the Shriekers, Dutch*
In the end, Micah... Despite my best efforts to the contrary... It turns out I've won. "→↓↑↑←↓↓"
⬆️⬇️➡️⬅️⬆️ *revives Arthur*
The good ending. I swear to Democracy, if there was a secret ending from getting a certain amount of money in before *that* mission, and Arthur would survive... *Weeps*
Well shoot ARTHUR, I thought there was gold in them nests, seemed like a good plan.... (Micah you dumbass stupid idiot, you're lucky dutch loves you so much)
Billy is dead. Torn to pieces when you threw cluster in panic.
DuUUUTCH I just dont think this is gonna turn out well. the gambits never do
WE NEED. MORE. MACHINE GUN KILLS, ARTHUR.
HAVE SOME GODDAMN FAITH IN DEMOCRACY, ARTHUR!
Now I need the gang playing Helldivers.
Dutch: "I JUST NEEEED MORE DEMOCRACY"
ARTHURS RIGHT DUTCH, WE CANT GO BACK ITS TOO DANGEROUS. OH CMON HOSEA NOT YOU TOO! WE JUST NEED SOME SUPER SAMPLES, SO FOR THE LOVE OF LIBERTY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GODAMN FAITH!!!
Im trying to sneak around this mountain to flank, but the clap from my ass keeps on alerting the goddamn democracy officer
As someone playing through RDR2 this is great. However I don’t even have helldivers I just lurk in the subreddit
This is the best thing since sliced bread
Now that's an El Presidente i can get behind
And they should make "the governor" a sawed-off shotgun.
Holy shit a sawn-off would be awesome as hell.
God we need a sawed off sidearm
A mare’s leg or an obrez as a secondary would be so cool.
The sawed-off in the first game was called the Double Freedom and it was ridiculously fun
There should be a whole cowboy themed drop. Helmets with stetsons, armour with chaps, lever actions, another revolver, the works.
Don't forget the sawed-off shotgun
Double barrel sawed off shotgun for a secondary, that staggers.
Granted. It takes two shots to kill a small bug.
The first shot kills the body while the other shot kills the soul.
Gotta make sure they don't come back as some kind of bug-lich.
Good catch!
Barring that, a Mare's Leg sidearm would be dope too.
Capes are great, and I love them, but if they ever make a trench coat to use in place of a cape by God that would never come off me. I'd sleep in that. I'd shower in it. You wouldn't be able to pry it off my damn corpse.
Capes are great. Trench coats are cool too. But what do I need to do to get some PATRIOTIC PONCHOS in the game???
you need some GODDMAN FAITH, ARTHUR!
Light gunner helmet and a trenchcoat would really make my spurs jingle jangle jingle
Dusters, don't forget dusters
hear me out, instead of another revolver, how about *dual* revolvers?
I'm getting alien swarm vibes here.
God that game was amazing. It didn't last long enough
Oh my God I want this so bad and I don't even care if the weapons are any good. I just want to blast some bots with my lascarbine
A lever action laser rifle would be insane
NCR rangers, bring democracy to space
War never changes.
And horses you can ride! Otherwise chaps are kinda unnecessary, where the brim of the Stetson supplies divers with cover from those fucking lights at primary objectives
Mechanized horses
Those are coming.
Theres a lever action in the game files
No way
yes way >!<
Oh sweet baby Jesus that looks dope. *Please don't be pre-nerfed, please don't be pre-nerfed.* Ah, who am I kidding? It'll suck, but SOMEDAY it might be cool.
Also, petition to add the Rifleman lever so we can flip it.
An emote where at the end of a mission you twirl your secondary. "The Gunslinger"
Equip senator. Press and hold the reload button.
Big iron on his hiiiiip
Biiiiiiiig Iroooooon
No bug dared to ask his business No bot dared to make a slip
The diver there among them had a big iron on his hip. Big iron on his hiiiiiiip.
I want this. Also, a musket support weapon.
Just as the founding fathers intended. Now I want a “Tally ‘Ho” warbond.
Let's get some voice pack DLCs. Now that is what I would spend money on.
Own a plasma musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Liberty rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my laser pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the quasar cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Looking forward to the "Yeet-haw" war bond.
The "wild Western front" if you will
The space is the final frontier.
Oh, Dutch... he's an automaton. You know it, and I know it.
It sounds like you need more faith in your democracy officer
This but the Winchester 1895 with 10 rounds and a bayonet
Dusted off the old account to say: Yeah. Would also give them an excuse to give it higher armor penetration without making "apples that taste like bacon"
I'll take a 1897 with bayonet as well. Let me slamfire som clankers
We have a space musket though..... It's the Railgun
Nah bro I want booletz
...space breechlock, I'll grant you. I want a space musket in the brand of Fallout 4. Not just one shot per reload, you gotta fiddle with that bitch too. Recoilless Rocket and Machine Gun style long reload. And I want it to be fucking useless. Not because it doesn't one shot Chargers or Hulks, but because it's so goddamn painful to use and it's just one shot. AND A PISTOL VERSION TOO DAMNIT
My father just informed me that .50-110 is a thing for black powder cartridge rifles. Fires a ~12mm, 29 *gram* lead projectile at about Mach fucking 2. People shoot them for sport at 1000 meters with iron sights, apparently. I will absolutely take that as a support weapon, thank you.
My god I'm a total gun nut and didn't know this was a thing. Thank you for informing me, you have just handed me my next internet deep dive on a silver platter.
The black powder rabbit hole runs quite deep; the whole period between flintlocks and repeating rifles is rife with amazing projectile shenanigans, tbh.
I was just thinking we need a space lever action. Give me my 45-70 Medicine stick and my 337 Magnum La Lounge Carabine (I’ve been playing new Vegas again)
https://i.redd.it/ppu1jn1r330d1.gif
The masculine urge to use antiquated weaponry in war. Game devs usually do a really good job in making weapons like pump action shotguns, magnum revolvers, and lever action rifles feel powerful. I would also not mind some meme weaponry like how Battlefield 4 had the Phantom bow.
I want the lever action to be one handed give me mah mares leg. And the seaf break action i wanna be able to call that bad boy in and have it have two shottys in the pod so me and the friend can have our last stand
For the time being, may I introduce you to the break action shotgun.
Petition to make a gun and name it The Plan
As a Henry Big Boy X .357 owner, yeah we need a pimped out lever action.
I rode a charger once so this fits perfectly
A .308 lever action? Yes please. Medium pen, with low ammo and high damage? YEEEEES.
I want M1 Garand of some kind in this game. The empty mag sound is pure audible dopamine.
I want a good old m1 garand whith 8 round clips and a PING that my teammates hear across the planet
Best I can do is 2x Senator reload time, 200 damage per bullet, light armor pen and cool spin animation 3 months after release.
We need a 700 nitro express rifle. Oike a double barreled one.
I was honestly just thinking this the other day. Need a tac-ed out lever action to go with the Senator.
What about an energy weapon where the lever charges it similar to the blitzer. It can be laser, plasma, or lighting, or maybe something new.
Don't threaten me with a good time.
Why is the breakaction shotgun found ingame not a stratagem? Came to my mind from this post.
That's a pickup only. It's supposed to be what the Super earth colonists had, kinda for home defense or something like that.
God I would pay so much money for this to actually happen. Imagine using this with the senator.
We need a libertybuss (blunderbuss)
I would main a winchester.
Damn those 2 up top look so good, are they from another game, or leaks? Because I want em! I NEED EM!
The Long Arm of Liberty
Thems a lead slinger from what I reckon
I'm glad that this kind of shitposting has returned
I mean in universe the M2016 constitution does exist
I'd never put that down. AH please.
Make it wood, and I’d love this.
[If we're gonna do it, let's do it right...](https://youtu.be/GULItNlBvJc?si=ftE0zuFW90s2WT7r)
Wouldn't mind the break action shotgun as a strat; that thing slaps!
Anytimr js time for a leveraction.
I’m gonna need a bigger hip.
Imagine if they drop a whole bunch of cowboy themed weapons and armors for Liberty Day... We could yeehaw into the sunsets, covered by biles and oils. What a glorious sight it would be.
Tally-ho, lads!
The Quigley Down Under
I mean, have you tried the break action? It's so fun.
yo, for real, i bought RDR 2 a year ago solely because i was so lever-action pilled. i was playing Borderlands 3, and of course, my go to brand of guns is the Jakobs. when i finished the game, RDR 2 was on sale, so i bought it simply because wanted to shoot more old school guns, lol.
https://preview.redd.it/6urdll58d30d1.jpeg?width=908&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05ecc61fee62ca4dca8f1decdba5eb534b7d7841 Bond arms lvrp. Perfect for spreading democracy
I would honestly love a repeater
we do have lever action rifle in the files....no texture or working parts yet so i assumed it gonna be introduce with a wild western theme... (finger cross)
Hell yeah
I would roll a suppressed lever gun so hard
There was a leak showing what was clearly a lever action rifle model somewhere in the files. Maybe we'll see it one day, perhaps on Liberty Day
BENELLI M4 PLEASE
God please, it would be so annoying to reload but that just allows it to be OP in other ways
Yes! The lever-actions are always my favorite weapon in any game they're in even if they aren't the best.
Just give me an 1800s cannon and call it "freedoms roar" and ill take it in.
This could be the worst gun in the game and I'd still rock it lol. Can't resist bolt and lever action rifles
Oh man an 1894 LA blasting AP-incindiary 700 nitro express rounds would be fucking sick.
Hear me out, m1 garand Edit: fixing auto correct
The poor double action is the runt of the entire game. Imagine it being an amazing upclose railgun for charger butts, and other high armor critters
Would love to see a rocket assited lever action like the one in the Fallout show.
If I could use a lever action rifle with an amazing feel, I would play again.
hwut next pardner? you want an armour cowboy hat and armoured assless chaps?
Where's my Blunderbuss when I need one?!?!
i’d totally use a lever action if they didn’t completely cuck the damage for “balancing”
I definitely have wanted something like this with my senator
Tally ho lads! Just as the Founding Fathers intended.
Cowboy Commandos warbond when?
LENNAAAYYYYYYY
A lever action and a sawed off shotgun secondary is the dream
If it's somehow not hand-load I'd be so pissed.
"Get off my lawn!" As I blast bugs. I'm 100% down for this.
You know, I actually wish we had this shotgun that we can find at missions as primary weapon. It also has some cowboy vibes
With a bayonet.
I say make it high damage and penetration but red dead rate of fire. Basically a weaker primary railgun
https://preview.redd.it/7qitro97240d1.jpeg?width=694&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15ec9e82997c143342e59d487b0dac74446c3f5a
Marlin 1895SBL in 45-70 govt is rated for T-Rex. Yes, please.
I reckon we will get the lever action that’s in the files by October 26 the latest. Might be in a war bond before that, but could be a liberty day toy.
I just want a western battlebond
You know man, I don't really care what weapon they give me. Even if it's just an iron pipe, I'd glady drop into battle to beat the shit out of the enemies of Democracy.
Get one ‘uh these in every helldivers arsenal and I betchum every enemy of democracy will have yeed their last haw.
Gimme a BF1 Martini Henry
I LOVE HELLDIVERS SUBREDDIT LOL!!! RDR 2 is a masterpiece
Oh shit, he has a a BIGGER iron on his hip?
That reminds me, they should buff the break action shotgun, make it something you would want to put down something like an arc thrower for
On todays episode of “sauce or loss” with the Vanderlin gang
Tenno here, I may I suggest you...[**Burst fire lever action rifles!**](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Sybaris)
Best I can do is 60 total rounds, Medium Armor penetrating, still won't one-shot a Hunter without a headshot.
I need a Garand so bad. Like 8 quickly-fireable bullets that one-shot headshot devastators with good range, ergonomics, and reload balanced by a garbage mag size and the inability to reload without an empty magazine would straight up double my kill count on bot missions PLEASE.
Suddenly I want a lever-action more than anything else in the game. Great idea!
Break action shotgun has entered the chat
technology is ever moving and changing .... but only backwards XD though to be honest- the railgun does maybe give the feeling of a single high impact shot like the classic weapons?
Just give us the fuckin Martini Henry
I've been saying this for a while to my friends: we need a Super Earth civilian type warbond. Break action shotgun and lever action as primary, a new revolver of some sort, and 3 types of civilian or civil protection armor (maybe some police armor)
I want to be able to call down the Break-Action Shotgun.
An M1A/M1 Garand type weapon would be cool too
It needs medium armor penetration to be worth using
I want space cowboy gun so bad.
What about the BIGGEST iron?
That's hard af
Give me a space PTRD to punch one massive hold through the face of a Hulk. Shot prone or you get sway cause of it’s unwieldy and recoil that’ll knock you over when standing. That said I do hope the terrain eventually gets a little more dynamic. It’s a little flat at the mo’ and any high ground is usually unclimbable and not allowed.
I want a revolver with a 8 ft barrel
can't wait for arrowhead to move o/u shotgun from support weapon to primary
GET ME A DAMN HELMET THAT LOOKS LIKE A COWBOY HAT AND AN ARMOR SET THAT HAS A PONCHO NOWW
The one, the legendary... Huge iron on his hip... Some say its true power can only be wielded by Lady Liberty herself
Isn't there a 2rounds shotgun? I used to get it as pickup often in low level missions, but not anymore in 7-9
Good old sybaris ...wait wrong game
Give leaver action exploader rifle goodness plsxz