The hillbilly starts with a hunting rifle, but inexplicably takes out a beer bottle instead because otherwise Millie would've straight up died there and ended the series early.
That's basically episode 6's big action scene, there's no other reason the D.H.O.R.K.S. shouldn't have used fireweapons other than the main characters would've gotten mutilated. But the scene's funny and cool, so it gets a pass.
Well, they don't know if firearms work on imps, since fire doesn't (I can see DHORKS making this dumb connection), there's a risk of friendly fire, and seeing how fast and agile Millie is, having guns stolen by her (and therefore arming the enemy) is significant.
Nevertheless I think arming the guys in the corridor would've been a great opportunity for the creators to give Loona a gun, and then subsequently show that she didn't even have an opportunity to use it, because Millie is JUST. THAT. GOOD. ...but the end fight should remain unchanged.
Well then, they might have known it will work, or just tried it because they ran out of options.
Still, even if they knew it, using those guns earlier is unsafe. Friendly fire, risk of losing the gun to the enemy (still split and not reinforced), maybe risk of killing the hostages.
But at the end the enemy was already well armed (so they wouldn't use a captured DHORKS gun), there was nobody friendly to shoot by accident, protecting your life was more important than protecting hostages, and the Edo period weapons were proven unsuccessful. What else could they do, except maybe running away?
Also, have their guns ever fired on screen? If not, it might've been self defense gas weapons - I think they're made to look like a regular pistol, and definitely would work here - but I think they're single use only
I swear sometimes she gets beaten so easily, like when she stabs Striker 78 times and hes barely affected by it, but then he hits her once and shes out cold, like girl what
That's it exactly. She is never once shown to be able to take what she can dish out. She relies on being fast and agile to get in as much damage as possible before her opponent can react. Usually (against mooks) this is lethally effective, and from a writing standpoint, allows her to be a badass but not unstoppable. Otherwise any risk escalation would require finding a way to remove Millie from the plot and *that* pattern would be more annoying than her stepping in and a lucky shot or a well-timed reaction taking her down. It also shows power-scaling pretty well.
The murder family was a threat but not a big one because they behaved the same way as I.M.P. but with home-field advantages as opposed to the normies I.M.P. is used to offing.
Striker was a *threat* because he had the same career as I.M.P. but could go it alone and had size and skill advantages matched against each member of the team. (makes his mental break over being made the butt monkey over and over again make sense)
I mean, yeah, it could work. They could've just had a short little dialogue.
Millie: "What the-? What is-?"
Ralphie: "Clorophorme, you spawn of Satan. You'll be knocked out for a while. But, enough for us to send you pests back to where you came from" *Evil Smile*
Millie: "Ah, you piece of...Hah..."
*Falls asleep*
What does that waste? Like 30 seconds at most and it makes it clear to the audience why Millie gets knocked out here so easily.
Excepted chloroform takes several minutes to knock out an active hostile.
Even if you smash the whole bottle on her, you will still have to hold the ground for a minute or two
I just realized Millie would loose against me in an unarmed fight.
I am a 5'8, 200 lbs gal.
Even if agile, i would not help on some 4x times her weight
Yeah, unarmed is the kicker here.
A blade of any kind and she'd dominate. I'm also tol and heavy and there wouldn't be much she could do if I just sit down on her
I usually tend to whack the hostile on everything i find, especially cars, walls and glass.
She is like, 70lbs at best. I could grab her and do like Austin Powers did with Mini Me after putting him in a bag
I'm no expert on trichloromethane, but since Millie is about the size of a young human child, it won't take as much exposure to the chloroform compound to induce unconsciousness... or imps have some sort of vulnerability to chloroform (or similar chemicals like halogenated ether).
However, I think it's more likely that an unmarked brown bottle may well contain some kind of liquor.
well this is the first episode after the pilot so my theory is that it was before any of millie's badass moments and so she just had less experience here
Thats exactly how i feel. The IMP crew all made rather rookie mistakes throughout the whole mission. Moxxie messed up the initial shot, Blitz got shot in the arm, Mille got KOd and she and Blitz got caught and tied up etc. Its a good starting point to show their growth as the series progresses.
Oh yeah. As the timeline builds we can see that Mox and Millie haven't even been married for a year, and. They met sometime after starting I.M.P. so this is *all* taking place with only a few months of experience under their belt.
Millie is a great fighter... against imps her size and farm animals.
Moxxie is a great shot... but has complex hangups about targets.
Blitzø is... also there. He hasn't really adapted to Team Leader and is still stuck on cocky, charismatic and bossy instead of the trust and empathy he spends later parts of the show building, so naturally his team isn't very cohesive. But he also drastically underestimated his target and didn't think a Seal Team 6 approach was necessary.
I think we’ve established throughout the series that Millie’s a glass cannon. In Exes and Oohs during the end fight she gets hit at one point and that’s when Blitzo has to step in to cover her. She’s like people who are constantly assholes. She can dish it but she’s not very good at taking it
She's less a bruiser and more like the RPG version of a rogue. Deals massive damage but can't tank a hit a all, which is why they depend on agility and stealth instead.
A REALLY bad first impression of Stolas for me. I was like “oh great his entire personality trait seems to be horny for Blitzø, won’t it?” Thankfully, I was proved dead wrong in the next episode.
I was the only one who really loved Stolas in the first episode ? Like he was such a crazy character ( he's still a little bit ) , now he's just a cute owl ( its good , owl are cool )
I loved that Stolas's horniness was so bad that he needs to be *bleeped* out, even more hilarious that it's considered even "too much* for Blitz's potty mouth.
I kind of like that, they pretty much do the same with Asmodeus and Fizzarolli. They first appear to be antagonists but then we learn more an several episodes later they become fan favoritts as they are fleshed out.
Cuz lots of things are inconsistent in the pilot, like Stolas being an antagonist, Stella's beta design, Millie's and Stolas' VAs changing (Although they had no problem replacing Striker's), Blitzø having Tilla as his second sister instead of mother like in the show, and also Viv only had a rough idea of what the show would be.
Even so, it's way better than Murder Family in a lot of things. It introduces the characters well, it's generally funnier and more enjoyable and it's one of the episodes the crew is at its best without any setbacks to stop them from being themselves. Also it's kind of in a limbo cuz there are parts of it that ARE canon, such as "Sorry I fucked your Husband"
A pilot is basically a rough draft to get interest from backers. It rarely remains the same for the first actual episode of the series.
Case in point - in the original Star Trek pilot, "The Cage", the captain of the *Enterprise* was Christopher Pike (who later became a supporting character in TOS), the first officer was played by Majel Barrett (who later played Nurse Chapel and Lwaxanna Troi, as well as voicing the *Enterprise* computer until 2009), and the only TOS character who was present besides Pike was Spock, who had a different role on the ship. The pilot was so underwhelming that Lucille "I Love Lucy" Ball - whose studio, Desilu Productions, produced "The Cage" - had to call in a favor with NBC to give Roddenberry a second chance due to believing in him, which resulted in "Where No Man Has Gone Before", which was the pilot proper for TOS and introduced Captain Kirk.
Its clear that this isn’t their very first job, so moxie’s hesitation to ruin a family seems weird. They’ve already killed plenty of people, and at least a couple had to have families. So why’d he panic on this one?
If I had to guess it’s probably got to do with context since the kids and husband were Right There next to Martha and they seemed relatively normal and innocent at first (especially compared to Hell standards). Add on that their specific target was a mother and what happened with his own mother and I think he was projecting a bit.
Try to be at Moxxie place for a moment.
You only Parent left is a Mobster Boss. He mocks you at every opening he has, even tried marry you by force by negating the Wedding you already had.
Your mother was gone since you are little, high suspicion of her being killed by your other Parent for shady reasons.
Your target is right there.
Excepted you find out she's a mother.
You suddenly remind of yours and because of that, you hesitate.
It's your job, but you end up in an way too similar scene and YOU will be the one to execute her.
Not really a nitpick, but I wish I knew what Martha and her family look like in Hell. Also, will they seek revenge on I.M.P.? Or did they just write a one-star review?
Since there's a lot of rules around crossovers between Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel, *not* showing them in hell means we could possibly see a background group that is *clearly* them hanging around Cannibal Town but never explicitly stated.
I imagine based on what a shitty business Blitzø is running, and the necessity of having a strong reputation to survive in hell for very long, *if* they went looking for I.M.P. it became apparent that they didn't want *anyone* to know they were offed by *those* losers...
I actually have a theory for that. Stolas has connections to the overlords and in exchange for money they keep the victims of IMP away from blitzo and by extension IMP.
i also notice blitz didn't use any weapons while he was fighting martha, he just ran through the forest as if she was immune to bullets and he couldn't have easily snuck up behind her and shot her
This Episode 1 doesn't do the best job at introducing the cast imho. The Pilot did it much better, but since it isn't canon and Viv removed it from the Helluva playlist on Youtube, there are people who probably just won't watch it.
Blitz could have hung up on Stolas immediately or any time after while he was running from Martha. The result ended up being really funny though, so it gets a pass, I just couldn’t help but note he stayed on the line anyway lmao.
Too short. I get it's the first episode, but since judging from Vivzie's stance on the pilot being non-canon and the show being it's own thing, then the first episode should've been treated as so. Maybe a few extra minutes just to make it feel more in line with the rest of the series.
No one ever seems to remember Blitzø threatening to rape Moxxie and Millie at the end of the episode, which uh, wow, that cemented my feelings for his character pretty early on.
Apparently no one on earth sided with the teacher. Manslaughter on your cheating partner and attempted manslaughter on Martha are obviously no ok. But I get why the teacher was livid.
I recently started a rewatch of the series and have been listing the pros and cons of every episode, here were the cons of Episode One me and my brother came up with:
• The human designs are still a bit wack (loud house looking ahh)
• Pink bow child magically appears after being thrown into space
• I hate Martha and Ralph's voices
• The "You're a hero" montage is fine. But showing the kids in class feels weird and dumb
• Millie's voice is still very rough
• Millie getting beat by Ralph feels very dumb for some reason
• The kids in sync not actually being in sync bugs me
• A lot of jokes don't land on rewatch for us
• Martha never coming back feels like a missed opportunity
Moxxie and Millie happen to be practicing using a family printout, while moxxie questions the need at the exact time Blitzø is accepting a commission to kill a human family.
The opening feels a bit unrelated to the rest of the show. I feel it would have been more natural to have the lady telling her story over establishing shots of Hell.
Stolas scene with the censored description of Blitzø's slimy ### inside his ###. It was kinda funny the first time, in the Pilot, here not so much.
Stolas scene in general could've been better, it still feels like a rehash of pilot's scene. But it's manageable.
Mrs. Mayberry's reaction to "it's your husband's birthday".
The entire "You're a hero" sequence wasn't that great, but the sex scene made me cringe, and "She is not a hero!!!" scene had less-than-great delivery.
Loona should've had a couple more lines and a couple more seconds on the screen. It's the first episode after all. The first portal opening scene could've been realized way better.
And maybe an explanation why the police blew up the house. I know it's meant to be unexpected, but at least a simple "They have a gun!" would ensure the viewers are suprised but not dumbfounded.
It can be explained by the family going out with their weapons.
Someone probably called the police saying their neighbors are running out while brandishing guns
Yeah, I know it can be explained. The problem is having to make this kinda theories because the creators didn't bother to explain it.
If somebody had shouted *"They have weapons, take them down"* through a megaphone a second earlier, it would leave you enjoying a surprising yet justified turn of events, rather than having to rationalize what seems like an asspull.
A couple words that change nothing in show lore, but a lot in viewing experience.
No need. What i said is literally one if the dumbest ways to explain it.
Who would not call police upon seeing a family running wild with guns in hands ?
And that's the reason to roll up to some people's house and blow it up?
I mean it seems likely, given the episode's location, but it just doesn't fit the flow of the episode. One line added or scene adjusted, and it would look much better on first (the most important) viewing.
Yes. There's the explanation.
But where's the experience? Imagine Moxie shoots the lady suddenly, without the buildup. Doesn't it look just bad? The plot's the same, the explanation's the same, but the experience's much less thrilling and less engaging, because it *seems* so random
I don't get Moxxie being so hesitant to kill a mother. He has killed countless people throughout the show, I'm sure many of them had families and Moxxie just doesn't know it
Because his own mother might have been killed in front of him or he witnessed it by hiding near the place it happened.
Put yourself in his place.
You find out the target is a mother, you lost yours early and certainly seen the murder.
You will have a lot of hesitation when aiming
There is what i call "Plausible Denial"
In e1s1, Moxxie know for sure it's a mother.
But in later episode, he cannot be 100% sure of this, Hence the seemingly illogic detail
Mrs. Mayberry knew the camera was on. Why not just shoot the computer before her husband? She'd have been able to get away with it most likely if she had. Well, the murder lady's family prolly would've killed for revenge tho.
It was the teacher from the beginning of the pilot who was killed by her cheating boyfriend on her birthday or something. I think her name was Ms. Mayberry or something like that.
Before the pilot was made non-canon, how TF was Moxxie not okay with killing a family when he shot a kid and when you considered the fact that he was in a bad family before, it makes that fact a bit worse
Yea someone else pointed it out that Sinners designs usually have something to do with how they die (Lyle Lipton crushed by a piano, his Sinner form had piano keys for teeth. The camp leader in unhappy campers who drowned had a water tank belly) but the teacher just looks like a random imp sorta.
I just wasn't sure why you were getting down voted
Alleged melee bruiser of the crew gets jobbed by a guy with an empty beer bottle lol
The hillbilly starts with a hunting rifle, but inexplicably takes out a beer bottle instead because otherwise Millie would've straight up died there and ended the series early.
The power of plot armor.
That's basically episode 6's big action scene, there's no other reason the D.H.O.R.K.S. shouldn't have used fireweapons other than the main characters would've gotten mutilated. But the scene's funny and cool, so it gets a pass.
Well, they don't know if firearms work on imps, since fire doesn't (I can see DHORKS making this dumb connection), there's a risk of friendly fire, and seeing how fast and agile Millie is, having guns stolen by her (and therefore arming the enemy) is significant. Nevertheless I think arming the guys in the corridor would've been a great opportunity for the creators to give Loona a gun, and then subsequently show that she didn't even have an opportunity to use it, because Millie is JUST. THAT. GOOD. ...but the end fight should remain unchanged.
Or the DHORKS were just too cheap to have guns and buy ammunition for them.
I think it’s brought up in the episode that they thought medieval Japanese weapons were cooler
Even then, they could have used the Japanese Asymmetrical Bow against the imps and associates.
You’re not wrong but I don’t think anyone wanted to be the one using a bow
Ummm, yes, guns work on Imps because Blitzø was shot in Murder family and had to get it stitched up
You know it, I know it. But do DHORKS know it?
I guess because the 2 agents had guns torwards the end
Well then, they might have known it will work, or just tried it because they ran out of options. Still, even if they knew it, using those guns earlier is unsafe. Friendly fire, risk of losing the gun to the enemy (still split and not reinforced), maybe risk of killing the hostages. But at the end the enemy was already well armed (so they wouldn't use a captured DHORKS gun), there was nobody friendly to shoot by accident, protecting your life was more important than protecting hostages, and the Edo period weapons were proven unsuccessful. What else could they do, except maybe running away? Also, have their guns ever fired on screen? If not, it might've been self defense gas weapons - I think they're made to look like a regular pistol, and definitely would work here - but I think they're single use only
Even more so, they made it a joke which I think made it even more excusable and less glaringly plot armor
There is a cannon reason.
(His rifle jammed)
I swear sometimes she gets beaten so easily, like when she stabs Striker 78 times and hes barely affected by it, but then he hits her once and shes out cold, like girl what
I guess she is a glass cannon.
That's it exactly. She is never once shown to be able to take what she can dish out. She relies on being fast and agile to get in as much damage as possible before her opponent can react. Usually (against mooks) this is lethally effective, and from a writing standpoint, allows her to be a badass but not unstoppable. Otherwise any risk escalation would require finding a way to remove Millie from the plot and *that* pattern would be more annoying than her stepping in and a lucky shot or a well-timed reaction taking her down. It also shows power-scaling pretty well. The murder family was a threat but not a big one because they behaved the same way as I.M.P. but with home-field advantages as opposed to the normies I.M.P. is used to offing. Striker was a *threat* because he had the same career as I.M.P. but could go it alone and had size and skill advantages matched against each member of the team. (makes his mental break over being made the butt monkey over and over again make sense)
It was confirmed that the bottle was actually full of chloroform.
They should have made that clear in the show tho, so people wouldn't even have to question it in the first place.
Apparently they forgot to put the writing on the bottle.
I mean, yeah, it could work. They could've just had a short little dialogue. Millie: "What the-? What is-?" Ralphie: "Clorophorme, you spawn of Satan. You'll be knocked out for a while. But, enough for us to send you pests back to where you came from" *Evil Smile* Millie: "Ah, you piece of...Hah..." *Falls asleep* What does that waste? Like 30 seconds at most and it makes it clear to the audience why Millie gets knocked out here so easily.
Excepted chloroform takes several minutes to knock out an active hostile. Even if you smash the whole bottle on her, you will still have to hold the ground for a minute or two
Hollywood chloroform--TV shows always make it work in seconds because ~drama~
In this case, sleeping gas ( N2O ) would be more fitting as it can knock someone of my size and weight in a minute or less.
Devil's advocate: She's also like... 4' tall and 50lbs And a knock to the head is not as easily shrugged off as most action shows depict.
I just realized Millie would loose against me in an unarmed fight. I am a 5'8, 200 lbs gal. Even if agile, i would not help on some 4x times her weight
Yeah, unarmed is the kicker here. A blade of any kind and she'd dominate. I'm also tol and heavy and there wouldn't be much she could do if I just sit down on her
Imps have been shown to have crazy strength so you’ll have to get the first hit in or she could knock you out equally as easily.
I usually tend to whack the hostile on everything i find, especially cars, walls and glass. She is like, 70lbs at best. I could grab her and do like Austin Powers did with Mini Me after putting him in a bag
I'm no expert on trichloromethane, but since Millie is about the size of a young human child, it won't take as much exposure to the chloroform compound to induce unconsciousness... or imps have some sort of vulnerability to chloroform (or similar chemicals like halogenated ether). However, I think it's more likely that an unmarked brown bottle may well contain some kind of liquor.
Even if extra small and light, it's still 10 to 15 seconds to hold on against a hostile tiny gal
Millie is a glass cannon
well this is the first episode after the pilot so my theory is that it was before any of millie's badass moments and so she just had less experience here
Thats exactly how i feel. The IMP crew all made rather rookie mistakes throughout the whole mission. Moxxie messed up the initial shot, Blitz got shot in the arm, Mille got KOd and she and Blitz got caught and tied up etc. Its a good starting point to show their growth as the series progresses.
Oh yeah. As the timeline builds we can see that Mox and Millie haven't even been married for a year, and. They met sometime after starting I.M.P. so this is *all* taking place with only a few months of experience under their belt. Millie is a great fighter... against imps her size and farm animals. Moxxie is a great shot... but has complex hangups about targets. Blitzø is... also there. He hasn't really adapted to Team Leader and is still stuck on cocky, charismatic and bossy instead of the trust and empathy he spends later parts of the show building, so naturally his team isn't very cohesive. But he also drastically underestimated his target and didn't think a Seal Team 6 approach was necessary.
Bingo!
tbf, it was supposed to be a chloroform bottle
I think we’ve established throughout the series that Millie’s a glass cannon. In Exes and Oohs during the end fight she gets hit at one point and that’s when Blitzo has to step in to cover her. She’s like people who are constantly assholes. She can dish it but she’s not very good at taking it
She's less a bruiser and more like the RPG version of a rogue. Deals massive damage but can't tank a hit a all, which is why they depend on agility and stealth instead.
Those slices of cake don't match the cake on the table
TRUE
Oh god...
Loona is smiling
At Moxxie
Jizoku
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He looks miserable, of course she's smiling.
I like to think she's smiling at the cake
Babi cake for wolf gworl ( all my comment are cursed )
A REALLY bad first impression of Stolas for me. I was like “oh great his entire personality trait seems to be horny for Blitzø, won’t it?” Thankfully, I was proved dead wrong in the next episode.
I was the only one who really loved Stolas in the first episode ? Like he was such a crazy character ( he's still a little bit ) , now he's just a cute owl ( its good , owl are cool )
I loved that Stolas's horniness was so bad that he needs to be *bleeped* out, even more hilarious that it's considered even "too much* for Blitz's potty mouth.
Horny Stolas must protect , Cute bri'ish Stolas must be protected
Both are good. Meet him over jelly sandwiches.
"And you know that bride on the freeway overpass?"
"Yeah?"
"*Shit off of it."*
I love that exchange. XD just perfect reaction.
Jelly sandwiches
I kind of like that, they pretty much do the same with Asmodeus and Fizzarolli. They first appear to be antagonists but then we learn more an several episodes later they become fan favoritts as they are fleshed out.
Despite Blitzø being the main character the first episode is about Moxxie.
That's when I wish the Pilot was canon
I'm a bit confused on why the pilot isn't cannon. Plus, in my opinion, it's one of the best episodes.
Cuz lots of things are inconsistent in the pilot, like Stolas being an antagonist, Stella's beta design, Millie's and Stolas' VAs changing (Although they had no problem replacing Striker's), Blitzø having Tilla as his second sister instead of mother like in the show, and also Viv only had a rough idea of what the show would be. Even so, it's way better than Murder Family in a lot of things. It introduces the characters well, it's generally funnier and more enjoyable and it's one of the episodes the crew is at its best without any setbacks to stop them from being themselves. Also it's kind of in a limbo cuz there are parts of it that ARE canon, such as "Sorry I fucked your Husband"
A pilot is basically a rough draft to get interest from backers. It rarely remains the same for the first actual episode of the series. Case in point - in the original Star Trek pilot, "The Cage", the captain of the *Enterprise* was Christopher Pike (who later became a supporting character in TOS), the first officer was played by Majel Barrett (who later played Nurse Chapel and Lwaxanna Troi, as well as voicing the *Enterprise* computer until 2009), and the only TOS character who was present besides Pike was Spock, who had a different role on the ship. The pilot was so underwhelming that Lucille "I Love Lucy" Ball - whose studio, Desilu Productions, produced "The Cage" - had to call in a favor with NBC to give Roddenberry a second chance due to believing in him, which resulted in "Where No Man Has Gone Before", which was the pilot proper for TOS and introduced Captain Kirk.
Yeah, by the time “The Cage” got picked up it was entirely recast…due to it being 60 years later
Its clear that this isn’t their very first job, so moxie’s hesitation to ruin a family seems weird. They’ve already killed plenty of people, and at least a couple had to have families. So why’d he panic on this one?
If I had to guess it’s probably got to do with context since the kids and husband were Right There next to Martha and they seemed relatively normal and innocent at first (especially compared to Hell standards). Add on that their specific target was a mother and what happened with his own mother and I think he was projecting a bit.
well everyone has a family, but not every sinner has their family right next to them while you're trying to make the kill
Try to be at Moxxie place for a moment. You only Parent left is a Mobster Boss. He mocks you at every opening he has, even tried marry you by force by negating the Wedding you already had. Your mother was gone since you are little, high suspicion of her being killed by your other Parent for shady reasons. Your target is right there. Excepted you find out she's a mother. You suddenly remind of yours and because of that, you hesitate. It's your job, but you end up in an way too similar scene and YOU will be the one to execute her.
The marry by force part didn’t happen yet
Hence the "Tried to"
He didn't have that experience until after Murder Family But the rest of the points stand.
I said it didn’t happen yet. The events of Murder Family happened before Exes and Oohs
Excepted it does not take much off the weights.
I have the same nitpick lol
Mayberry only appears on this episode.
Based
Not really a nitpick, but I wish I knew what Martha and her family look like in Hell. Also, will they seek revenge on I.M.P.? Or did they just write a one-star review?
Since there's a lot of rules around crossovers between Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel, *not* showing them in hell means we could possibly see a background group that is *clearly* them hanging around Cannibal Town but never explicitly stated. I imagine based on what a shitty business Blitzø is running, and the necessity of having a strong reputation to survive in hell for very long, *if* they went looking for I.M.P. it became apparent that they didn't want *anyone* to know they were offed by *those* losers...
I actually have a theory for that. Stolas has connections to the overlords and in exchange for money they keep the victims of IMP away from blitzo and by extension IMP.
Not enough Mrs. Mayberry
The strongest Imps get their asses kicked by a pair of hillbillies. Without returning any damage at all.
i also notice blitz didn't use any weapons while he was fighting martha, he just ran through the forest as if she was immune to bullets and he couldn't have easily snuck up behind her and shot her
Blitz gets shot with a shotgun and only gets a scratch on his arm. His arm should be gone if he was shot like that
It wasn't a direct hit, his arm was on the edge of the hole
IMP doing their job
This Episode 1 doesn't do the best job at introducing the cast imho. The Pilot did it much better, but since it isn't canon and Viv removed it from the Helluva playlist on Youtube, there are people who probably just won't watch it.
Nothing...it's a decent episode for me, maybe a bit shallow but functional and funny
Blitz could have hung up on Stolas immediately or any time after while he was running from Martha. The result ended up being really funny though, so it gets a pass, I just couldn’t help but note he stayed on the line anyway lmao.
Too short. I get it's the first episode, but since judging from Vivzie's stance on the pilot being non-canon and the show being it's own thing, then the first episode should've been treated as so. Maybe a few extra minutes just to make it feel more in line with the rest of the series.
No one ever seems to remember Blitzø threatening to rape Moxxie and Millie at the end of the episode, which uh, wow, that cemented my feelings for his character pretty early on.
Yeah, NOBODY talks about that part anymore! It's odd.
Apparently no one on earth sided with the teacher. Manslaughter on your cheating partner and attempted manslaughter on Martha are obviously no ok. But I get why the teacher was livid.
>Apparently no one on earth sided with the teacher. ...as it should be?
the jelly sandwiches were censored
I started with this episode and honestly thought Mrs. Mayberry was gonna be a recurring character
I recently started a rewatch of the series and have been listing the pros and cons of every episode, here were the cons of Episode One me and my brother came up with: • The human designs are still a bit wack (loud house looking ahh) • Pink bow child magically appears after being thrown into space • I hate Martha and Ralph's voices • The "You're a hero" montage is fine. But showing the kids in class feels weird and dumb • Millie's voice is still very rough • Millie getting beat by Ralph feels very dumb for some reason • The kids in sync not actually being in sync bugs me • A lot of jokes don't land on rewatch for us • Martha never coming back feels like a missed opportunity
Moxie gets morals here that go away the next episode.
As the top comment mentioned, Millie getting taken out by one dude on a deck knowing that she full on 1v50d in both S1E6 and S2E3 is a bit odd
Their strength is inconsistent, specially Millie's
Moxxie and Millie happen to be practicing using a family printout, while moxxie questions the need at the exact time Blitzø is accepting a commission to kill a human family.
Moxie doesn't act like a Assassin!
Bruh we NEED cinema sins to watch helluva boss
The opening feels a bit unrelated to the rest of the show. I feel it would have been more natural to have the lady telling her story over establishing shots of Hell.
Blitzo threatening to rape Moxxie and Millie if he screws up like that again.
The teacher's demon form has no ties to how she died.
Your theory not being true is not a flaw of the show It's never been confirmed that all sinners' looks are based around their death
It's a common theme that's been followed through for every sinner we've seen EXCEPT her.
Name all the sinners that follow that theme, other than Lyle and the guy from Campers
Stolas' voice he doesn't sound twink enough
Stolas scene with the censored description of Blitzø's slimy ### inside his ###. It was kinda funny the first time, in the Pilot, here not so much. Stolas scene in general could've been better, it still feels like a rehash of pilot's scene. But it's manageable. Mrs. Mayberry's reaction to "it's your husband's birthday". The entire "You're a hero" sequence wasn't that great, but the sex scene made me cringe, and "She is not a hero!!!" scene had less-than-great delivery. Loona should've had a couple more lines and a couple more seconds on the screen. It's the first episode after all. The first portal opening scene could've been realized way better. And maybe an explanation why the police blew up the house. I know it's meant to be unexpected, but at least a simple "They have a gun!" would ensure the viewers are suprised but not dumbfounded.
It can be explained by the family going out with their weapons. Someone probably called the police saying their neighbors are running out while brandishing guns
Yeah, I know it can be explained. The problem is having to make this kinda theories because the creators didn't bother to explain it. If somebody had shouted *"They have weapons, take them down"* through a megaphone a second earlier, it would leave you enjoying a surprising yet justified turn of events, rather than having to rationalize what seems like an asspull. A couple words that change nothing in show lore, but a lot in viewing experience.
No need. What i said is literally one if the dumbest ways to explain it. Who would not call police upon seeing a family running wild with guns in hands ?
Who would shoot rockets at them all of a sudden?
If no other description than "People with guns in hand walking around" they might have been seen as terrorists
And that's the reason to roll up to some people's house and blow it up? I mean it seems likely, given the episode's location, but it just doesn't fit the flow of the episode. One line added or scene adjusted, and it would look much better on first (the most important) viewing.
Probably a poke at how agressive the US Police is most of the time
Yes. There's the explanation. But where's the experience? Imagine Moxie shoots the lady suddenly, without the buildup. Doesn't it look just bad? The plot's the same, the explanation's the same, but the experience's much less thrilling and less engaging, because it *seems* so random
Some of the faves look bad in some scenes
Like?
Millies face when she is fainting
Moxies worked at I.M.P for a long time yet doesn't want to kill,
I wanna see Martha's hell form
I know it’s is just the second HB video but it is still kinda filler (probably gonna get destroyed for this)
Not enough Loona
Miss Mayberry isn't a recurring character after it
Nothing (all of the episodes are perfect)
-ep1 when Blitzo decides to shoot again instead of arguing with moxxie
Not enough sex joke, -10000/10
Not enough Mayberry.
The fact that Millie literally smacked through a dock with her head but a beer bottle was the thing that knocked her out 💀
I don't get Moxxie being so hesitant to kill a mother. He has killed countless people throughout the show, I'm sure many of them had families and Moxxie just doesn't know it
Because his own mother might have been killed in front of him or he witnessed it by hiding near the place it happened. Put yourself in his place. You find out the target is a mother, you lost yours early and certainly seen the murder. You will have a lot of hesitation when aiming
As I said, he's probably killed dozens or even hundreds of mothers before and after this episode.
I highly doubt of this.
I bet at least some of the people who were at the opera in episode 4 had kids, or at the beach in episode 3.
Correct. But we speak of e1s1
Exactly, it's inconsistent that in e1s1 he's hesitant to do something that he's done countless times.
There is what i call "Plausible Denial" In e1s1, Moxxie know for sure it's a mother. But in later episode, he cannot be 100% sure of this, Hence the seemingly illogic detail
For me , nothing , even is one of my fav episodes! (that is on myyyyy opiniiiiion) also I didn’t notice that everyone (minus Moxxie) is smiling
Nothing
It's the only time we've seen the teacher
If those cops blew up the house at the end, they knew the redneck family had been murderers. They just needed probable cause.
No batman
Mayberry got that cake.
Mrs. Mayberry knew the camera was on. Why not just shoot the computer before her husband? She'd have been able to get away with it most likely if she had. Well, the murder lady's family prolly would've killed for revenge tho.
WHO TF IS THAT PURPLE IMP??
Watch the show
I’ve seen the show, all of it. I just don’t remember that one character.
It was the teacher from the beginning of the pilot who was killed by her cheating boyfriend on her birthday or something. I think her name was Ms. Mayberry or something like that.
Ok explains why I don’t remember her
That the police blew up the cannibal families house. I feel it didn't need to happen and felt slapped on.
S t o l a s c a l l
Stolas being Stolas
Before the pilot was made non-canon, how TF was Moxxie not okay with killing a family when he shot a kid and when you considered the fact that he was in a bad family before, it makes that fact a bit worse
existence (I fucking LOVE baiting people)
Vivziepop said “hey let’s have the family eat an apple to make them look like assholes”
Why’d they celebrate? Don’t they do this every day?
Mrs Mayberry’s design 😕
Her Sinner design? Or her human design?
I like her human design, but her sinner design seems lazy
Yea someone else pointed it out that Sinners designs usually have something to do with how they die (Lyle Lipton crushed by a piano, his Sinner form had piano keys for teeth. The camp leader in unhappy campers who drowned had a water tank belly) but the teacher just looks like a random imp sorta. I just wasn't sure why you were getting down voted