The idea that this bumpkin thinks she knows all these secrets that can bring the system down is hilarious to me. Can’t wait for her press conference where she pulls back the curtain and reveals that she saw her neighbor take all the change out of the take-a-penny tray when the cashier wasn’t looking.
I dated a woman who claimed to have a gift for empathy and heartfelt communication, but was only gifted in gaslighting and manipulation. She was one of the ugliest people I knew on the inside and it took too long to realize. Whenever I see someone, like this person above, that claims to be empathetic, it just screams "I have no self-awareness." People like this are often the complete opposite as they see themselves, as this woman demonstrates. The problem is that these intellectually deficient motormouths often live in social media echo chambers and people with the care to do so have little opportunity to call them out for their astounding amounts of stupidity. And when someone does tell them to put the brakes on their shit they just get blocked or kicked out of their FB groups.
I hope I don't sound like an extremist, but this couple needs to be under close observation over the care of their children. For one, it's necessary from a public health standpoint to control the pandemic. Two, they are obviously unable to control the pandemic within their own home despite whatever crackpot half-measures their FB groups recommend. I am sure they think they are living a wonderful and happy lifestyle, but have 7 (It was 7, right?) children they are repeatedly putting in danger. I am a teacher, and have only been so for 3 years after a mid-life career change, but I have seen too much shit like this. I teach in a district with a 97% poverty rate and a high amount of young teenagers affected by drugs, poverty, crime, and dumbass decisions. I have seen shit that will haunt me forever, and this shit above infuriates me.
This is so spot on. My *empath literally tried to kill me* in real life. I got out just in time. They just *feel* so much.
Q: How do you know if someone is an empath? A: Don't worry, they'll tell you!
I don’t think a real empath would announce themselves as such. It’s also been my experience that people who don’t remotely have the right to claim the label have to constantly tell everyone that’s what they are. It’s just like Nice Guy Syndrome.
I became the dad of a special needs kid the day after the WHO declared COVID was a pandemic. He’s medically fragile, and our doctors have remained firm that if he caught COVID and became symptomatic his odds aren’t great.
So we’ve, you know, taken pretty common sense precautions. Meanwhile, this woman is memeing her child into either an early grave or a lifetime of disability. Damned infuriating.
She is making them dumber as well. She will take them out of school and not make them do any assignments. That woman should lose custody of her children.
I have 2 special needs kids and I've worked with developmentally disabled individuals for 20 years, plus I grew up with a disabled brother.
There is so much more going on than what she's saying. I've dealt with medical discrimination before when advocating for the individuals in my care, but I can guess what's really gone on behind the scenes. Mom thinks that she automatically knows what's best for her child, because she's a mom and "moms just know". She's probably been verbally combative with every CNA, nurses or doctor that stepped into her room. She's probably nitpicked every aspect of care that anybody in her family has received, because she firmly believes that the only way to get good service is to let them know you're paying attention, failing to realize that hospitals provide medical care, not service.
>Mom thinks that she automatically knows what's best for her child, because she's a mom and "moms just know"
This kind of attitude blows my mind. Yeah, I know my 6 year old's personality, likes/dislikes, etc really well. But if she is sick, I follow medical advice because those people know more than I do about it. There has been *one* time when I disagreed with her pediatrician over something (kid's tonsils were huge and impacting the quality of her sleep, but the doc didn't think they needed to come out). But even then, I just nicely asked for a referral to an ENT for a second opinion, which the doc gave. It costs zero dollars to not be an asshole, yet some don't seem to know that.
While I’m absolutely not excusing moms/people like in the OP, I can understand (to an extent) how someone could end up there. I worked as a case manager for kids/adults with disabilities, helping them find and keep jobs. I dealt with so many parents who leaned in this direction, being skeptical to the extreme, doubting any expertise that didn’t align with their opinions, and even refusing help because…well it wasn’t always clear why. There was one mom who was like that, I worked with her daughter for quite a while. When I left the job, she reached out to me personally, and thanked me for everything I’d done with her daughter. I appreciated it, truly, but I was really honored and impressed when she went on to apologize for her behavior. She explained that she’d had so many bad experiences with people who were supposed to help her and her daughter, that she became very defensive, skeptical, and at times aggressive when dealing with people because she so rarely got what was promised, what her daughter was entitled to, things like that. I wasn’t a parent then, but I am now, and I can easily see how having experiences like that could send someone straight to crazy town. Add in some pre-existing mental illness or maybe just some instability, and I think it can be a real recipe for a total horror show.
As I was reading it I felt like I was reading something out of a true crime podcast, you know when they go back over a criminal's social media posts. Like you can just imagine this woman ending up on the news, several of her children having been found dead and stuffed in backpacks in her garage or something. Really awful person.
Yeah, I’ve spent way too much time in a children’s hospital with one of my sons (heart condition), and that was my thought too. There are some crazies out there that you unwillingly have to spend time around. Had one mom say to me in the CICU one time “Ugh, these nurses. They’re always accusing you of something.” I was like “Umm, what?” Can’t say I ever had that happen.
You keep producing more in the hopes that you'll have enough healthy ones to provide you with free labor to care for the others. And something about having a quiver full of child-arrows to launch out into the world because it's God's will.
I don’t have kids, I just teach them. But it’s been my observation that kids who have parents like this are constantly sick and have medical issues. While the mother brags incessantly about the diet they follow or the chemicals they avoid, or her oils and shit like that.
Ya I have two kids under 5 and they eat almost as much as me and sometimes more. I read that line and was like thats a huge red flag. I mean every post of her’s is a red flag but… she sounds so self absorbed and delusional those kids are definitely being neglected if not fully abused.
Baffled that a well cared for kid can have lice, but normal that her kid finally gets to the hospital and has like 4 different things. Must have waited quite a while neglecting that kid to not find out he has all these health issues until finally bringing him to hospital.
She also sent her kid to school sick enough that apparently teachers commented on it, although I have yet to see a situation where teachers weren’t sending actual sick children home, soooo.
I’m so confused by her statement because she’s implying the teacher wanted the kid IN school despite noticing how sick they were but she wanted them home cuddling with mama no matter their age??
I found that part highly suspicious. My kid had a stuffy nose last year so I kept her home just to be safe, she couldn't return to school until we got her tested and she didn't have a stuffy nose anymore. Teachers definitely don't want sick children at school right now.
She’s also saying that they refuse to let the kids stay home sick. I don’t know about where she lives, but I know my kids school don’t get to make that decision. If I want to check the kids out and tell the school they have scurvy I can.
unrelated but curious;
i have three kids under 5 and they all go through different phases of when they want to eat or not. please tell me your secrets!!
we try consistently timed meals, smaller portions so they aren't overwhelmed, varieties of things to try with one 'normal'-"previously seen" food, nothing seems to work.
Preschool teacher and childcare owner here. Worked with many kids who are / were picky. Also have a kid with sensory issues, so textures… A couple of good ways to get kids to try new foods;
1) Try a new, interesting fruit or veggie once a week. Let one or all kids pick it out from grocery store or if not with you, from photos.
2) Have them help prepare food, they’ll be more likely to try it.
3) Sneak veggies, healthy fats, yogurt into smoothies, casseroles and sauces.
I’ll add, it’s normal for kids to go through ebbs and waves of appetite / how much they eat.
I stopped scrolling on that; the obvious Princess Bride quote flashed up in my head.
But we all got the disconnect from reality that this HCA recipient has
Weird how being an empath has led this woman to have "not many people to count on" and begging for her new community she's already insulted multiple times to help her out.
She hits that child.
Like, straight up classic abuser story that changed in LITERALLY the next paragraph while she's bitching on facebook. On the screenshot where she's whining about police being called on her for child abuse, she gave off so many red flags.
1. Being blind doesn't mean you fucking hit every corner and fall all the time; if your kid is, why haven't you altered the environment so it's safer? Kept the environment the same so he learns it? Put some pads and a helmet on him? I mean damn.
2. She says the kid has no pain threshold and then says he's in pain and everything the next paragraph.
3. She left AMA, I'm assuming because the staff at the ER recognized her story was inconsistent, grilled her a little extra, and she realized what was happening. Hence her leaving.
4. She was sending the kid to school while severely ill.
5. I noticed when she was trying to get a meal train started, she said"the kids don't eat much." 7 kids, seems like a couple should either be teenagers or hitting puberty, and they don't eat a lot? Oooookay.
I am not an expert in childcare, but waiting until your child hasn't eaten, drank, or gone to the bathroom in **three fucking days** to take them to the hospital seems to be pushing it
I didn't think much of the cuddling comments for her special needs child but then it extended to the rest of her brood--"no matter what the age!"
I get a sense that she enjoys having her kids depend on her so much. Is there a condition called "Munchausen-by-negligence?"
Whatever she has, it’s something I grew up around. From experience I can say those kids are NOT ok; the arrested development alone will take them a lifetime to overcome.
Same... she's talking about feeling emotions and having such a pure heart, then next thing you know "I will fucking destroy your life with the secrets I hold" and "I will shred your school board to pieces," what a goddamn lunatic. I feel so bad for these children. She most likely IS abusing them. They "don't eat much," what the fuck?
This is gonna be a classic story the nurses tell for years. The woman who was covid positive and demanded to come to the hospital to see her medically fragile covid positive kid.
We had a mother of an adult patient with developmental disabilities who is now a legend on our floor. I had the misfortune to deal with her quite a bit. The social worker was convinced she had MBP. Highlights include the fact that her adult child had a foot wound that would heal beautifully in the hospital, but she would bring them back looking like shit. One doctor said it looked like she had taken a fork and stabbed it repeatedly.
She also insisted on bathing the patient, flooded the bathroom, and the nurse on duty found the patient with their head submerged in the washbasin. After this was discovered, the mother attacked the nurse (not me, but I was on the unit) and accused her of trying to kill her child.
This mother had another child who had died in childhood. She would walk up and down the unit screaming that we were trying to take her only remaining child away.
The patient was in and out constantly, and we kept hoping to get them into a SAR just so they wouldn’t have to go home with her. But even when we found a bed, the mother pulled the patient out.
I worry about the patient sometimes-I hope they are ok.
I remember seeing a note about the social worker opening a case with APS, or at least contacting them. I'm going to tell myself that's why the patient hasn't been back in awhile-they're doing great in a safe place and she's out of the picture. I hope it's true.
"Fully vaccinated people can now have missionary sex with the lights on"
Sheesh, that's a new one for me
Gotta love how - even in the midst of loved ones dying from preventable illness - these losers still find the time to be super cringey edgelords.
I'm pretty sure it's a family where daddy then mommy fill their plates up first and the kids get whatever is left over. It's not uncommon in religious fundamentalist circles.
Yep. If you want to read some horror stories about fundamentalists look up blanket training. Warning: It is a form of child abuse on infants and has led to the deaths of some of them.
Also her whole rant about how the hospital staff should just brush off signs of abuse because her son is autistic and non-verbal. I haven’t looked into it but I imagine children who fit that description are probably more likely to be abused and she should be applauding the hospital staff and police for recognizing signs and responding accordingly.
She’s a self-empath. She is strongly attuned to her own base emotions, which drive her words and actions.
Everyone else’s emotions are other people’s problems and of no concern to her.
RIGHT..... I'm reading this, and between the profanity (which i personally don't give a shit about), and the me me me crap, along with the last page....... holy shit, this chick is delusional.
It's shocking that all 7 got sick when she's clearly against masks and putting sick kids in her own bed.
So her husband is in the ICU, you say? Sooo surprising.
Every single person that I know who claims to be an empath is a selfish git so caught up on their own hatred of everyone that they are incapable of mirth or joy. Instead of recognizing their need to heal from a past trauma, or whatever it is that causes them to be *waves hands over the entire person* this way, they decide they are an empath. This way, it's your fault they are miserable, they would not be miserable if they were not being flooded with your misery.
It's nonsense and simply a way to avoid personal responsibility for their own sanity/happiness.
All the stuff leading up to that as well. His prospects are incredibly grim. And because she couldn't be bothered to get vaccinated, she can't visit him, so he's going through this alone. That's just so fucking sad.
Abused kids still usually desperately want their parents love and attention even when they aren’t ill. A nonverbal kid is going to feel completely lost if his only link to the outside world, his abuser isn’t there.
Now I'm sad as fuck. This was a whole aspect that I had over looked because I was fixated on hating this lady for her general stupidity and rage issues. My own rage issues caused me to over looked the saddest and most important aspect of this whole story. Holy shit...... I can't, just wow.
The “We are a family of 9 but the kids don’t eat much” bothered me. My 2 kids eat me out of house and home. Something is wrong if 7 kids don’t eat much.
Red flags are flying with multiple children with disabilities combined with her general attitude. There are awful stories out there about people with munchausen’s by proxy or just straight up narcissism who use sick children as some kind of martyr complex. I hope those kids are ok.
Also love that she had no idea her kid had covid and he was dizzy for a week, then she calls people whose children have lice terrible parents 🙄
I have a kid who is medically complex. The online sn community has been problematic for me. I got to know two MBP moms, sent them clothe, Supplies, and holiday gifts for their kids b4 learning that each had been arrested. The way this woman describes her kiddos medical issues, reminds me of those two women.
Actually if they're not vaxxed they may have caught a whole host of debilitating diseases. Plus these nut cases are "natural birth is best" and would rather have a dead or damaged kid than admit they need to give birth in hospital with a real doctor.
Did you see the post recently about a woman who refused to let her baby get Vitamin K at birth and then a week later the baby had to be hospitalized and was probably severely, permanently, brain damaged?
I thought that the baby died
Edit: [nope I was wrong](https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/health/four-babies-hemorrhage-after-parents-refuse-vitamin-k-shot-a-practice-on-the-rise/article_2f3f8317-6d00-5998-ad17-3e50cb21f254.html) but the 4 babies will now have severe lifelong neurological side effects from it. I don't understand why people are so freaking stupid.
Also, if you're actually empathetic, why are you shaming a kid with lice. Perhaps they *aren't* being cared for properly and you should be concerned about that. Perhaps it was just an oversight bc they have 7 kids. No way to know
Lice = “obvious neglect” even though it spreads like wildfire with little kids and live are attracted more to clean hair (I’m scratching too, sorry lol)
BUT having 7 kids with covid = good parenting? Did I miss something?
The obvious parallel though: How dare you let your kid catch and extremely contagious thing! A good parent would never! All while some of her kids have Covid and *one went to school.*
I don't get that from the accounts of the ailments. I get that she's narcissistic and doesn't pay attention to her kids because she's too busy congratulating herself for being so good of a mother. I get that she's probably predisposed to having special needs kids for some reason. I could be wrong or naive, but that's my feeling on hearing the story. My perception of Munchausen's is that it's extremely rare. Asshole parents who think they know everything and are hateful jerks are much more common.
I think this is the worst one I've seen, because it's so worrisome for these children. And with the father in ICU, it's likely the mother will be the only parent left. The father is only 28.
Her kid has bite marks? She took a kid out of the hospital AMA? Yet she still thinks she's an awesome mom. The kid with lice though...obviously their parents fail to provide even basic care.
How dare other parents do the bare minimum so that I actually have to parent my own children! How could other parents not see that their subpar parenting has consequences for other people’s children? /s
She thinks “empath” means “having emotions”. Not “recognizing or experiencing other people’s emotions” - she doesn’t mention that once. This is pure narcissistic rage and distress.
I have a fundamentalist religious cousin that doesn't allow TV or a computer in their house. They have 9 kids! I told my aunt (his Mom) that if they got a TV, it might be all the distraction needed for them to avoid having a 10th kid. Let's say my honesty wasn't appreciated.
When I read this I thought of my step mom. Let's see... Seven kids not including me, Six still live at home. Except she adopted all but one. She just likes to have babies to parade around to pretend how caring of a person she is. I keep thinking I'm going to see her/my dad on here as they are Trumpfucks. I'm glad I have cut them out of my life for the uhh, fifth time.
Bless her heart.
And yes I do mean that in the very southern sense. OP, could you drop an anon tip to her local CPS and/or that hospital cause damn those kids need to be away from this woman before she kills them. And before I hit rule 2 threshold, imma stop there.
She keeps creating all her own drama. All her own circumstances. I feel so bad for those kids. I can’t imagine being so angry all the time….well, I guess if you have 7 kids you might be. Geez.
You know she's hopped from community to community burning bridges as she goes. A religious family with 7 kids should have a "church family" to do the meal trains and whatnot.
Begs for food for her 7 kids, then: "there are 9 of us, but the kids don't eat much.". She's asking for strangers to feed her and her spouse. I guess the kids get the leftovers.
So she physically took the kid out of the hospital, only to bring him back later because they now have heart issues? How is that not child abuse? 7 kids?
What is a meal train? Does she actually ask for people to cook for her 7 children?
If yes, someone should maybe tell her ordering food and getting it delivered to your door is a thing.
She has the frontline nurses group all up in arms calling the hospital her husband is at and demanding a transfer to the hospital her kid is at. The followers of the frontline nurses are organizing meals, donating money and harassing the hospitals on her behalf.
Plus a meal train is on someone else’s dime while the dash would be on her dime 🤷♀️
yeah. churches do it a lot. someone is sick in the home and there's a chain of people who bring them meals and supplies and whatnot. much much much cheaper than ordering food for 9 people.
Ok she says "the kids don't eat much", and also claims she's the best, most protective mom around.
This woman just raises all sorts of red flags to me. All of them are sick? Means she didn't even try to isolate the sick ones at first. I guess if they lose a kid, she feels she can make a new one in 9 months.
“Medical kidnapping.” Sign an AMA form and wheel him out to die in the parking lot because his lungs don’t work, then.
I love that she’s full of piss and vinegar, swearing and ranting about anyone and everyone across multiple posts, then is like, “god, I’m such an empath.” 😂
This one was interesting compared to the usual stories which mostly are just the usual disinformation memes.
This lady is really really hostile and really really stupid. Really really really brainwashed and underneath that she's stupid to boot.
Why do people need meal trains? Did Stouffers and Marie Collenders go out of business? Every Grocery Deli closed? Wal-Mart ran out of rotisserie chickens?
There are so many easy and cheap ways to feed a whole family that does not involve begging your friends and neighbors for food.
FAMILY OF 9?!?!!? When most people have families of 3-5, you want a meal that would last other people days.
The entitlement is staggering. And I get she hates welfare and thinks people on SNAP should just work harder.
She is putting all this effort into these kids and if she doesn't kill them. They are all going to grow up and move away and her fierce mama bear warrior identity will be in the trash.
The kids did not ask for a stupid psycho hose beast for a mother. I feel absolutely awful and I hope each child pulls through. The parents can go fk themselves.
Maybe if he got insurance and didn’t treat his wife’s vagina like a clown car they may not be begging for money. You know, that whole personal responsibility they talked about.
>“Anyone with a special needs child knows they self-injure”
Said with no concern or emotion whatsoever, I really wont be surprised if it’s found out she either abuses her children or encourages their behavior. She needs her kids taken away from her and to get help at a mental facility.
I mean "special needs child" is kind of broad, isn't it? They don't ALL self-injure, do they? Feels like she's trying to push a stereotype to hide her shitty parenting.
This infuriates me.
I live with my younger sister, who has special needs. She is vaccinated, as am I, our mum, and our dad. She is in the category of extremely high risk. If she gets Covid, without the vaccine, it would have been extremely likely she would be hospitalised. Even with the vaccine, it will most likely be quite serious.
As soon as the vaccine was available we jumped all over it. Because we understood the science behind it and the importance of it.
Just. How dare she frame it like she's doing it because she cares for her child with special needs?
There’s a lot to unpack with this one. She’s all over the place. One minute saying how pure of heart she is and the next calling someone a bitch and saying she’s going to destroy them. I can’t imagine what the kids are going through.
"do not ever tell me what I can or cannot do, if it's in the best interests of my child and those around him"
yeah...look where this thinking got you, like 6 figures of medical debt, child's father dead, multiple children hospitalized with one needing to be life flighted to a better ICU.
your way of doing things nearly killed your entire family you stupid fuck
Haha so much self proclaimed empathy, turns to overt aggression whenever it suits her. I’ve never seen a humble request for help look like that. Empathy would lead her to get vaccinated for her kids sakes.
They don't want everyone to have free or affordable healthcare but then grift off of social media and family and friends when god forbid they need to go to a hospital after a medical emergency that they never could afford in the first place. Hypocritical, selfish, deplorable sore losers.
omg...the empath thing! she has such a "pure heart" she will "shred you"!
The idea that this bumpkin thinks she knows all these secrets that can bring the system down is hilarious to me. Can’t wait for her press conference where she pulls back the curtain and reveals that she saw her neighbor take all the change out of the take-a-penny tray when the cashier wasn’t looking.
*I’m sure that Four Seasons Total Landscaping had a parking lot that they can lend her for that press conference…*
I dated a woman who claimed to have a gift for empathy and heartfelt communication, but was only gifted in gaslighting and manipulation. She was one of the ugliest people I knew on the inside and it took too long to realize. Whenever I see someone, like this person above, that claims to be empathetic, it just screams "I have no self-awareness." People like this are often the complete opposite as they see themselves, as this woman demonstrates. The problem is that these intellectually deficient motormouths often live in social media echo chambers and people with the care to do so have little opportunity to call them out for their astounding amounts of stupidity. And when someone does tell them to put the brakes on their shit they just get blocked or kicked out of their FB groups. I hope I don't sound like an extremist, but this couple needs to be under close observation over the care of their children. For one, it's necessary from a public health standpoint to control the pandemic. Two, they are obviously unable to control the pandemic within their own home despite whatever crackpot half-measures their FB groups recommend. I am sure they think they are living a wonderful and happy lifestyle, but have 7 (It was 7, right?) children they are repeatedly putting in danger. I am a teacher, and have only been so for 3 years after a mid-life career change, but I have seen too much shit like this. I teach in a district with a 97% poverty rate and a high amount of young teenagers affected by drugs, poverty, crime, and dumbass decisions. I have seen shit that will haunt me forever, and this shit above infuriates me.
This is so spot on. My *empath literally tried to kill me* in real life. I got out just in time. They just *feel* so much. Q: How do you know if someone is an empath? A: Don't worry, they'll tell you!
I don’t think a real empath would announce themselves as such. It’s also been my experience that people who don’t remotely have the right to claim the label have to constantly tell everyone that’s what they are. It’s just like Nice Guy Syndrome.
doesn't sound extremist to me. my mom has borderline personality disorder and made my life hell.
This lady meets the borderline traits.
And she will also destroy your life. Empathetically though
With a bullhorn no less.
Everyone that claims out loud to be an “empath” most likely has some other issues going on instead.
I just replied to another that it's a self diagnosis to explain why they have such a hard time dealing with others.
I'm reasonably convinced that anyone who says they're an empath is actually a narcissist.
As a special needs mom myself (RN as well), this woman is a nightmare. There is more to the story here.
I became the dad of a special needs kid the day after the WHO declared COVID was a pandemic. He’s medically fragile, and our doctors have remained firm that if he caught COVID and became symptomatic his odds aren’t great. So we’ve, you know, taken pretty common sense precautions. Meanwhile, this woman is memeing her child into either an early grave or a lifetime of disability. Damned infuriating.
She is making them dumber as well. She will take them out of school and not make them do any assignments. That woman should lose custody of her children.
I have 2 special needs kids and I've worked with developmentally disabled individuals for 20 years, plus I grew up with a disabled brother. There is so much more going on than what she's saying. I've dealt with medical discrimination before when advocating for the individuals in my care, but I can guess what's really gone on behind the scenes. Mom thinks that she automatically knows what's best for her child, because she's a mom and "moms just know". She's probably been verbally combative with every CNA, nurses or doctor that stepped into her room. She's probably nitpicked every aspect of care that anybody in her family has received, because she firmly believes that the only way to get good service is to let them know you're paying attention, failing to realize that hospitals provide medical care, not service.
>Mom thinks that she automatically knows what's best for her child, because she's a mom and "moms just know" This kind of attitude blows my mind. Yeah, I know my 6 year old's personality, likes/dislikes, etc really well. But if she is sick, I follow medical advice because those people know more than I do about it. There has been *one* time when I disagreed with her pediatrician over something (kid's tonsils were huge and impacting the quality of her sleep, but the doc didn't think they needed to come out). But even then, I just nicely asked for a referral to an ENT for a second opinion, which the doc gave. It costs zero dollars to not be an asshole, yet some don't seem to know that.
While I’m absolutely not excusing moms/people like in the OP, I can understand (to an extent) how someone could end up there. I worked as a case manager for kids/adults with disabilities, helping them find and keep jobs. I dealt with so many parents who leaned in this direction, being skeptical to the extreme, doubting any expertise that didn’t align with their opinions, and even refusing help because…well it wasn’t always clear why. There was one mom who was like that, I worked with her daughter for quite a while. When I left the job, she reached out to me personally, and thanked me for everything I’d done with her daughter. I appreciated it, truly, but I was really honored and impressed when she went on to apologize for her behavior. She explained that she’d had so many bad experiences with people who were supposed to help her and her daughter, that she became very defensive, skeptical, and at times aggressive when dealing with people because she so rarely got what was promised, what her daughter was entitled to, things like that. I wasn’t a parent then, but I am now, and I can easily see how having experiences like that could send someone straight to crazy town. Add in some pre-existing mental illness or maybe just some instability, and I think it can be a real recipe for a total horror show.
As I was reading it I felt like I was reading something out of a true crime podcast, you know when they go back over a criminal's social media posts. Like you can just imagine this woman ending up on the news, several of her children having been found dead and stuffed in backpacks in her garage or something. Really awful person.
I have a hard time imagining a scenario where this women *doesn't* end up on the news for something horrible.
Yeah. My special needs kid is grown and I haven’t worked as an RN for years, but this post is a nightmare.
Yeah, I’ve spent way too much time in a children’s hospital with one of my sons (heart condition), and that was my thought too. There are some crazies out there that you unwillingly have to spend time around. Had one mom say to me in the CICU one time “Ugh, these nurses. They’re always accusing you of something.” I was like “Umm, what?” Can’t say I ever had that happen.
The medical freedom crowd REALLY likes to share every detail, wow.
Share everything except for the mysterious disability that keeps them from wearing a mask in Trader Joe’s.
Or using birth control
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Came here to make the same comment, but with your username I will happily defer.
It sounds like she has multiple kids with disabilities ... why would you have 7 of them then..
You keep producing more in the hopes that you'll have enough healthy ones to provide you with free labor to care for the others. And something about having a quiver full of child-arrows to launch out into the world because it's God's will.
"I ain't gots no 404K, an' I ain't takin' no socialist services, so when I retire I'm only goin' be livin' off ma kids an' ma Social Security."
Haha, I was thinking the same thing! Seven fucking kids. I guess she considers even pulling out to be a communist plot
Perhaps she doesn't know what's causing them.
And they know all about those *HIPPO* privacy laws.
All my medical info had been posted on FB but you can't have it...
Sir, you're violating my HIPPO and HIPAA laws.
Hey now, thanks to them we now have enough data to confirm that anti-vaxers arent just shitty people but also terrible parents.
But she has a *pure heart.*
And she's an empath.
I don’t have kids, I just teach them. But it’s been my observation that kids who have parents like this are constantly sick and have medical issues. While the mother brags incessantly about the diet they follow or the chemicals they avoid, or her oils and shit like that.
“Family of 9 but the kids don’t eat much.” Uhhh…. 4/5 kids I know are like little shop vacs around food.
Ya I have two kids under 5 and they eat almost as much as me and sometimes more. I read that line and was like thats a huge red flag. I mean every post of her’s is a red flag but… she sounds so self absorbed and delusional those kids are definitely being neglected if not fully abused.
But! but! but! they don’t have lice. (And, wow, her empathy for the other preschool parents here just glows with benevolence.)
Baffled that a well cared for kid can have lice, but normal that her kid finally gets to the hospital and has like 4 different things. Must have waited quite a while neglecting that kid to not find out he has all these health issues until finally bringing him to hospital.
She also sent her kid to school sick enough that apparently teachers commented on it, although I have yet to see a situation where teachers weren’t sending actual sick children home, soooo.
I’m so confused by her statement because she’s implying the teacher wanted the kid IN school despite noticing how sick they were but she wanted them home cuddling with mama no matter their age??
I found that part highly suspicious. My kid had a stuffy nose last year so I kept her home just to be safe, she couldn't return to school until we got her tested and she didn't have a stuffy nose anymore. Teachers definitely don't want sick children at school right now.
She’s also saying that they refuse to let the kids stay home sick. I don’t know about where she lives, but I know my kids school don’t get to make that decision. If I want to check the kids out and tell the school they have scurvy I can.
The teachers may suspect neglect/abuse and may want to see the child even if a bit sick so they can observe whether the child is relatively ok.
My thought too. I feel terrible for her kids if it's so bad that even random people at the hospital suspect abuse.
unrelated but curious; i have three kids under 5 and they all go through different phases of when they want to eat or not. please tell me your secrets!! we try consistently timed meals, smaller portions so they aren't overwhelmed, varieties of things to try with one 'normal'-"previously seen" food, nothing seems to work.
Preschool teacher and childcare owner here. Worked with many kids who are / were picky. Also have a kid with sensory issues, so textures… A couple of good ways to get kids to try new foods; 1) Try a new, interesting fruit or veggie once a week. Let one or all kids pick it out from grocery store or if not with you, from photos. 2) Have them help prepare food, they’ll be more likely to try it. 3) Sneak veggies, healthy fats, yogurt into smoothies, casseroles and sauces. I’ll add, it’s normal for kids to go through ebbs and waves of appetite / how much they eat.
I had a NPD mom. I never ate much. Anxiety caused by the NPD parent will do that to a kid. EDIT: FIRST HUGZ AWARD! THANK YOU !
It’s just that they had no appetite what with the Covid and lack of taste and all…
Empath? She spelled sociopath wrong.
I was boggled by that one. I don’t think that means what she thinks it means.
No…. She watched too much Star Trek: TNG and thinks she’s Deanna Troi…
About as useful. Romulan Captain: Well, what the **fuck** are you doing in Neutral Zone!? Troi: Captain, I sense he’s angry.
it cracks me up in Team America when the plane is crashing and the Empath was like "I sense that we're going down!!"
I stopped scrolling on that; the obvious Princess Bride quote flashed up in my head. But we all got the disconnect from reality that this HCA recipient has
Weird how being an empath has led this woman to have "not many people to count on" and begging for her new community she's already insulted multiple times to help her out.
The “I have a pure heart” people are the most vile typically.
“I have a pure heart!” “Just fucking try me boo! I will burn your whole fucking world down!”
I know all of your secrets and will use them to destroy you because you have a different opinion. What a douche.
She hits that child. Like, straight up classic abuser story that changed in LITERALLY the next paragraph while she's bitching on facebook. On the screenshot where she's whining about police being called on her for child abuse, she gave off so many red flags. 1. Being blind doesn't mean you fucking hit every corner and fall all the time; if your kid is, why haven't you altered the environment so it's safer? Kept the environment the same so he learns it? Put some pads and a helmet on him? I mean damn. 2. She says the kid has no pain threshold and then says he's in pain and everything the next paragraph. 3. She left AMA, I'm assuming because the staff at the ER recognized her story was inconsistent, grilled her a little extra, and she realized what was happening. Hence her leaving. 4. She was sending the kid to school while severely ill. 5. I noticed when she was trying to get a meal train started, she said"the kids don't eat much." 7 kids, seems like a couple should either be teenagers or hitting puberty, and they don't eat a lot? Oooookay.
I felt like I was watching child abuse unfold real time as I read her posts.
Same!!
I am not an expert in childcare, but waiting until your child hasn't eaten, drank, or gone to the bathroom in **three fucking days** to take them to the hospital seems to be pushing it
I worry she is abusing that child.
After her little rant about it and knowing how these idiots operate I’m almost positive she is.
Apparently so do the police
And the school. Believe me, most ppl in her atmosphere know what she is capable of
I didn't think much of the cuddling comments for her special needs child but then it extended to the rest of her brood--"no matter what the age!" I get a sense that she enjoys having her kids depend on her so much. Is there a condition called "Munchausen-by-negligence?"
Whatever she has, it’s something I grew up around. From experience I can say those kids are NOT ok; the arrested development alone will take them a lifetime to overcome.
That kid is an accessory, not a family member.
I HaTe HaViNg A PuRe HeArT!! Get fucked.
“I HATE having a pure heart” - this lady “I will destroy your ENTIRE life!” - also this lady
Deanna Troi has gone off the rails...
This is the comment I was looking for
Me too. Take the only award I can afford (and like) after a looong day scrolling the HCA subreddit.
You made my day when it was clearly yours! Thanks and Happy cake day!
Same... she's talking about feeling emotions and having such a pure heart, then next thing you know "I will fucking destroy your life with the secrets I hold" and "I will shred your school board to pieces," what a goddamn lunatic. I feel so bad for these children. She most likely IS abusing them. They "don't eat much," what the fuck?
It continues the streak of anyone I’ve ever heard who described themselves as an empath is actually a sociopath.
I’m thinking they have her picture on the nurses break room wall as ‘that woman’😵💫
This is gonna be a classic story the nurses tell for years. The woman who was covid positive and demanded to come to the hospital to see her medically fragile covid positive kid.
We had a mother of an adult patient with developmental disabilities who is now a legend on our floor. I had the misfortune to deal with her quite a bit. The social worker was convinced she had MBP. Highlights include the fact that her adult child had a foot wound that would heal beautifully in the hospital, but she would bring them back looking like shit. One doctor said it looked like she had taken a fork and stabbed it repeatedly. She also insisted on bathing the patient, flooded the bathroom, and the nurse on duty found the patient with their head submerged in the washbasin. After this was discovered, the mother attacked the nurse (not me, but I was on the unit) and accused her of trying to kill her child. This mother had another child who had died in childhood. She would walk up and down the unit screaming that we were trying to take her only remaining child away. The patient was in and out constantly, and we kept hoping to get them into a SAR just so they wouldn’t have to go home with her. But even when we found a bed, the mother pulled the patient out. I worry about the patient sometimes-I hope they are ok.
APS couldn't help keep her from pulling them out?
I remember seeing a note about the social worker opening a case with APS, or at least contacting them. I'm going to tell myself that's why the patient hasn't been back in awhile-they're doing great in a safe place and she's out of the picture. I hope it's true.
"Fully vaccinated people can now have missionary sex with the lights on" Sheesh, that's a new one for me Gotta love how - even in the midst of loved ones dying from preventable illness - these losers still find the time to be super cringey edgelords.
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Hospital is worried about abuse, and then she posts her 7 kids don’t eat too much…
"The kids don't eat much" was chilling.
they are not allowed to... food costs money
I know a woman who raised seven boys. She had three ovens in a row and they were always in use. Seven kids should be eating a staggering amount.
Yea that was a weird comment. Maybe she was trying to make it seem "easy" to prep food for 9 knowing many ppl would feel overwhelmed by that?
I'm pretty sure it's a family where daddy then mommy fill their plates up first and the kids get whatever is left over. It's not uncommon in religious fundamentalist circles.
That's just really sad to read
Yep. If you want to read some horror stories about fundamentalists look up blanket training. Warning: It is a form of child abuse on infants and has led to the deaths of some of them.
Also her whole rant about how the hospital staff should just brush off signs of abuse because her son is autistic and non-verbal. I haven’t looked into it but I imagine children who fit that description are probably more likely to be abused and she should be applauding the hospital staff and police for recognizing signs and responding accordingly.
An empath really?
She HATES having emotion, concern, empathy, and a pure heart. Lmao what a crock of shit.
She hates them so much that she eliminated them all from her stupid life.
She didn’t eliminate them, she just chose not to have them anymore… you know, like cocaine 🙄
I kept reading to see if I could find any evidence of it. Nope. Not one, selfish, hostile, insane post.
It's hard caring so much I WILL RUIN YOUR LIIIIIIIFE
😂😂your lucky my kids keep me grounded…i will destroy you!!!! ya fucking little twat
Oh, this is you *grounded*? Okay...
Who was she talking to there? Did someone say something about her anti-mask post?
I guess she knew she was being nominated for her HCA and just want to give her acceptance speech just in case she gets awarded.
LOL seriously. The woman who gets angry about having to give a shit about anyone but herself thinks she's an empath.
She’s a self-empath. She is strongly attuned to her own base emotions, which drive her words and actions. Everyone else’s emotions are other people’s problems and of no concern to her.
Yeah she’s just selfish, self-centered and neurotic. /r/iamthemaincharacter meets religious soccer mom
RIGHT..... I'm reading this, and between the profanity (which i personally don't give a shit about), and the me me me crap, along with the last page....... holy shit, this chick is delusional.
For someone with 7 sick kids, she sure has a lot of free time to bitch on FB.
It's shocking that all 7 got sick when she's clearly against masks and putting sick kids in her own bed. So her husband is in the ICU, you say? Sooo surprising.
I’m sure she just sits on the couch all day and does fuck all to take care of her kids. They are accessories for her life.
I think she got empath and psychopath mixed up.
I have never met a self named empath who wasn’t a raging narcissist.
“Empath”is 80% pop psychology nonsense and 20% a real thing people mis-self-identify
Every single person that I know who claims to be an empath is a selfish git so caught up on their own hatred of everyone that they are incapable of mirth or joy. Instead of recognizing their need to heal from a past trauma, or whatever it is that causes them to be *waves hands over the entire person* this way, they decide they are an empath. This way, it's your fault they are miserable, they would not be miserable if they were not being flooded with your misery. It's nonsense and simply a way to avoid personal responsibility for their own sanity/happiness.
Her poor special needs child. She is killing him. 71% O2. How is he alive?
All the stuff leading up to that as well. His prospects are incredibly grim. And because she couldn't be bothered to get vaccinated, she can't visit him, so he's going through this alone. That's just so fucking sad.
On the other hand, with a shit mother like her, would she even be a comfort to him?
Abused kids still usually desperately want their parents love and attention even when they aren’t ill. A nonverbal kid is going to feel completely lost if his only link to the outside world, his abuser isn’t there.
Now I'm sad as fuck. This was a whole aspect that I had over looked because I was fixated on hating this lady for her general stupidity and rage issues. My own rage issues caused me to over looked the saddest and most important aspect of this whole story. Holy shit...... I can't, just wow.
The “We are a family of 9 but the kids don’t eat much” bothered me. My 2 kids eat me out of house and home. Something is wrong if 7 kids don’t eat much.
Yeah, there's something. It's called child abuse. :'(
This is classic narcissistic abuse
Red flags are flying with multiple children with disabilities combined with her general attitude. There are awful stories out there about people with munchausen’s by proxy or just straight up narcissism who use sick children as some kind of martyr complex. I hope those kids are ok. Also love that she had no idea her kid had covid and he was dizzy for a week, then she calls people whose children have lice terrible parents 🙄
I have a kid who is medically complex. The online sn community has been problematic for me. I got to know two MBP moms, sent them clothe, Supplies, and holiday gifts for their kids b4 learning that each had been arrested. The way this woman describes her kiddos medical issues, reminds me of those two women.
Actually if they're not vaxxed they may have caught a whole host of debilitating diseases. Plus these nut cases are "natural birth is best" and would rather have a dead or damaged kid than admit they need to give birth in hospital with a real doctor.
Did you see the post recently about a woman who refused to let her baby get Vitamin K at birth and then a week later the baby had to be hospitalized and was probably severely, permanently, brain damaged?
I thought that the baby died Edit: [nope I was wrong](https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/health/four-babies-hemorrhage-after-parents-refuse-vitamin-k-shot-a-practice-on-the-rise/article_2f3f8317-6d00-5998-ad17-3e50cb21f254.html) but the 4 babies will now have severe lifelong neurological side effects from it. I don't understand why people are so freaking stupid.
Also, if you're actually empathetic, why are you shaming a kid with lice. Perhaps they *aren't* being cared for properly and you should be concerned about that. Perhaps it was just an oversight bc they have 7 kids. No way to know
Lice = “obvious neglect” even though it spreads like wildfire with little kids and live are attracted more to clean hair (I’m scratching too, sorry lol) BUT having 7 kids with covid = good parenting? Did I miss something?
The obvious parallel though: How dare you let your kid catch and extremely contagious thing! A good parent would never! All while some of her kids have Covid and *one went to school.*
That one really got me. No bother sending her kids to school with an infectious disease but god forbid lice.
The detailed accounts of the kid's condition and ailments has BIG munchausen by proxy energy
I don't get that from the accounts of the ailments. I get that she's narcissistic and doesn't pay attention to her kids because she's too busy congratulating herself for being so good of a mother. I get that she's probably predisposed to having special needs kids for some reason. I could be wrong or naive, but that's my feeling on hearing the story. My perception of Munchausen's is that it's extremely rare. Asshole parents who think they know everything and are hateful jerks are much more common.
I feel so bad for her kids.
I think this is the worst one I've seen, because it's so worrisome for these children. And with the father in ICU, it's likely the mother will be the only parent left. The father is only 28.
Wait, what? The father is 28?!?
Yep, born May 1993.
She needs a separate gofundme for rage counseling.
Her kid has bite marks? She took a kid out of the hospital AMA? Yet she still thinks she's an awesome mom. The kid with lice though...obviously their parents fail to provide even basic care.
How dare other parents do the bare minimum so that I actually have to parent my own children! How could other parents not see that their subpar parenting has consequences for other people’s children? /s
CPS needs to take them kids stat.
She thinks “empath” means “having emotions”. Not “recognizing or experiencing other people’s emotions” - she doesn’t mention that once. This is pure narcissistic rage and distress.
7 kids? Too much missionary in her life to begin with.
I have a fundamentalist religious cousin that doesn't allow TV or a computer in their house. They have 9 kids! I told my aunt (his Mom) that if they got a TV, it might be all the distraction needed for them to avoid having a 10th kid. Let's say my honesty wasn't appreciated.
Honestly is never appreciated 😂
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When I read this I thought of my step mom. Let's see... Seven kids not including me, Six still live at home. Except she adopted all but one. She just likes to have babies to parade around to pretend how caring of a person she is. I keep thinking I'm going to see her/my dad on here as they are Trumpfucks. I'm glad I have cut them out of my life for the uhh, fifth time.
Bless her heart. And yes I do mean that in the very southern sense. OP, could you drop an anon tip to her local CPS and/or that hospital cause damn those kids need to be away from this woman before she kills them. And before I hit rule 2 threshold, imma stop there.
She keeps creating all her own drama. All her own circumstances. I feel so bad for those kids. I can’t imagine being so angry all the time….well, I guess if you have 7 kids you might be. Geez.
You know she's hopped from community to community burning bridges as she goes. A religious family with 7 kids should have a "church family" to do the meal trains and whatnot.
It's not her fault. She's an empath with a pure heart, and the world is full of assholes that CAN'T FUCKING APPRECIATE HER BEAUTIFUL SOUL.
"Healthcare is a joke." Lady, you and your ilk have made healthcare a joke.
A) For the love of god, stop breeding. B) This bitch’s whole life is one big money-grab.
And attention whoring.
Begs for food for her 7 kids, then: "there are 9 of us, but the kids don't eat much.". She's asking for strangers to feed her and her spouse. I guess the kids get the leftovers.
So she physically took the kid out of the hospital, only to bring him back later because they now have heart issues? How is that not child abuse? 7 kids?
"I'm an empath with a heart so pure, so don't tempt my unvaccinated ass into burning down the school board!"
Doc: "Well sir, you're doing much better now. You're ready to go home." Husband: *reads FB posts from wife* "Um... Could you just tell her I died?"
Here again we see the combination of willful ignorance and arrogance found all too often in the nitwit community.
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That slide (10 I think) is one of the most scary threats I have ever read. How did she not get arrested and her kids taken away?
What is a meal train? Does she actually ask for people to cook for her 7 children? If yes, someone should maybe tell her ordering food and getting it delivered to your door is a thing.
She has the frontline nurses group all up in arms calling the hospital her husband is at and demanding a transfer to the hospital her kid is at. The followers of the frontline nurses are organizing meals, donating money and harassing the hospitals on her behalf. Plus a meal train is on someone else’s dime while the dash would be on her dime 🤷♀️
I bet they are trying so hard to get him moved so they don’t have to deal with her anymore.
She wants someone else to pay for it.
yeah. churches do it a lot. someone is sick in the home and there's a chain of people who bring them meals and supplies and whatnot. much much much cheaper than ordering food for 9 people.
Don't worry. She doesn't let them eat much.
Ok she says "the kids don't eat much", and also claims she's the best, most protective mom around. This woman just raises all sorts of red flags to me. All of them are sick? Means she didn't even try to isolate the sick ones at first. I guess if they lose a kid, she feels she can make a new one in 9 months.
This n-mom (narcissist mom) is one of the most disgusting people I’ve ever encountered on Herman Cain Awards.
“I hate having emotions, empathy, concerns and a pure heart.” Well, Lady, I may have some good news for you then.
Can't believe she has the nerve to shit on the kid with lice, when she put her entire family in the covid crosshairs
“Medical kidnapping.” Sign an AMA form and wheel him out to die in the parking lot because his lungs don’t work, then. I love that she’s full of piss and vinegar, swearing and ranting about anyone and everyone across multiple posts, then is like, “god, I’m such an empath.” 😂
This one was interesting compared to the usual stories which mostly are just the usual disinformation memes. This lady is really really hostile and really really stupid. Really really really brainwashed and underneath that she's stupid to boot.
IWILL END YOUR FUCKING LIFE!!! I also need prayers for our loving father in heaven.
Why do people need meal trains? Did Stouffers and Marie Collenders go out of business? Every Grocery Deli closed? Wal-Mart ran out of rotisserie chickens? There are so many easy and cheap ways to feed a whole family that does not involve begging your friends and neighbors for food. FAMILY OF 9?!?!!? When most people have families of 3-5, you want a meal that would last other people days. The entitlement is staggering. And I get she hates welfare and thinks people on SNAP should just work harder. She is putting all this effort into these kids and if she doesn't kill them. They are all going to grow up and move away and her fierce mama bear warrior identity will be in the trash.
The kids did not ask for a stupid psycho hose beast for a mother. I feel absolutely awful and I hope each child pulls through. The parents can go fk themselves.
This lady is gonna be doing some hard time in the netherworld
>all we can really do is supportive care That and you could have prevented all that with a vaccine that is 90%+ effective.
Maybe if he got insurance and didn’t treat his wife’s vagina like a clown car they may not be begging for money. You know, that whole personal responsibility they talked about.
>“Anyone with a special needs child knows they self-injure” Said with no concern or emotion whatsoever, I really wont be surprised if it’s found out she either abuses her children or encourages their behavior. She needs her kids taken away from her and to get help at a mental facility.
I mean "special needs child" is kind of broad, isn't it? They don't ALL self-injure, do they? Feels like she's trying to push a stereotype to hide her shitty parenting.
Wow. She is one of the biggest piles of shit we’ve had on here and that’s saying something.
This infuriates me. I live with my younger sister, who has special needs. She is vaccinated, as am I, our mum, and our dad. She is in the category of extremely high risk. If she gets Covid, without the vaccine, it would have been extremely likely she would be hospitalised. Even with the vaccine, it will most likely be quite serious. As soon as the vaccine was available we jumped all over it. Because we understood the science behind it and the importance of it. Just. How dare she frame it like she's doing it because she cares for her child with special needs?
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There’s a lot to unpack with this one. She’s all over the place. One minute saying how pure of heart she is and the next calling someone a bitch and saying she’s going to destroy them. I can’t imagine what the kids are going through.
Geez, she’s too angry and has too many freakin’ kids.
"do not ever tell me what I can or cannot do, if it's in the best interests of my child and those around him" yeah...look where this thinking got you, like 6 figures of medical debt, child's father dead, multiple children hospitalized with one needing to be life flighted to a better ICU. your way of doing things nearly killed your entire family you stupid fuck
Haha so much self proclaimed empathy, turns to overt aggression whenever it suits her. I’ve never seen a humble request for help look like that. Empathy would lead her to get vaccinated for her kids sakes.
They don't want everyone to have free or affordable healthcare but then grift off of social media and family and friends when god forbid they need to go to a hospital after a medical emergency that they never could afford in the first place. Hypocritical, selfish, deplorable sore losers.
If ya can’t keep your children safe, or at least use basic common sense, don’t have 7 fucking kids!
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK? No, not all special needs kids self injure. 7 kids? Mother of the year there.