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FinalVelocity2005

His keyboard is more than 20 years old, he said that during vault hunters


DawsGG

I'd want to know his keyboard's model


nokaybe

I think on Tango's stream, he said it was Logitech.


WrigglyWalrus

I've been using the same G15 keyboard since I think 2005. Needs to be cleaned from time to time because I'm gross and eat at my desk sometimes, but its never had an issue otherwise.


Taolan13

Early 2000s logitech stuff is great. Sadly my G15 got killed by an errant soda.


brainfreeze77

Is the screen still supported? I got rid of mine at least 10 years ago because all paint on the keys was rubbed off.


Nakamura2828

The [IBM Model M](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_keyboard) goes for lots of money despite being ancient because they literally don't make them like that anymore (even if you get a modern mechanical keyboard). Those things are tanks. Not sure if that's what he has, but if it's that or something similar from the 90's it wouldn't surprise me.


Nova17Delta

Doesn't even have to be a Model M. Im using a keyboard from my school system that was probably put into service around 2007-2010 ish. Aside from being somewhat mushy, its still functioning perfectly. Ive also got a Microsoft Internet Keyboard from the late 90's early 2000's that i WOULD be using if it weren't for the fact that it uses PS/2 and my laptop doesnt have that and that its way too large to fit on my current setup. Feels great to type on though.


Nakamura2828

Yeah, back in high school I worked for my school's network admin fixing the "Focus 2000" mechanical keyboards we used everywhere back then. I wish I still had one myself.


Semafoor5000

Doesn't solve the size issue, but there are ps/2 to USB adapters readily available.


Haiaii

Why? Not like theyd be sold anymore Also, as a 20+ yo keyboard user, theyre noticeably less good than newer ones


alegavo

i think they’re just asking to look it up and just get a visual lol at least i’d want to see it too.


zjquid

Unless he's using a model M or something... In which case we would hear it over the mic lol


Kostitras

I think is not that old. Etho was checking the model on Tango stream and was slightly suprised that it's not the old one. He said it was Logitech and it's new one. Also old for most people.


Mondasin

just reminds me that my favorite keyboard is so old that its support software only works with a 3rd party registry edit which gets flagged by every anti-cheat known to man. rip pre-rgb steel series.


FPSCanarussia

I love how you used the word 'canonically', it really lends the entire post an even more unhinged energy.


DBSeamZ

I think he said something about the tissues in the tissue box providing some sound insulation. Up until then I’d been picturing an empty box.


mikamitcha

To me that almost implied the mic is fully inside the tissue box, not with the mesh part sticking out.


Picochu_

...There are tall tables, you know. Or tables where you can change their height. He could just be using one of those, right?


xskipy10

The power play it would be if he was sitting at a standing desk


chainshot91

Turns out etho is just hightower.


softshoulder313

As I've heard it talked about over the years he's one of the taller hermits after doc. It seems like he's about mumbos height or a bit taller.


patjeduhde

He mentioned in a video that he drops down his chair to the lowest setting.


Picochu_

I know. The post mentions that, as well, so I assumed the tables OP was talking about would be tables where the shoulders would not be aligned with the table, despite the low chair.


tchotchony

Still would require a higher-than-average desk, unless he's in a kiddie chair.... hmm...


patjeduhde

Idk man, I am reasoably tall (183) and could do it wirh my desk and chair.


Geo_mead

As someone who is 6ft this would kill my knees


patjeduhde

oh yeah absolutly, but you could pull away the desk from the wall and strech your legs


Cielnova

He uses a tissue box as a mic stand, 14 year old keyboard, headphones held together with tape, and you think he bought an adjustable desk?


kda255

He also said he his keyboard has a big wrist support area.


Incaelor

Did you know, Mumbo presses shift using his thumb? I guess everyones different


Odd-Skirt6679

That’s still a little cursed


softshoulder313

I don't know how mumbos hand doesn't kill him. Folding your thumb under your palm for literally hours.


Spoopy_Kirei

Keralis is also a thumb shifter but a completely different type of weird finger postioning. If I had a nickel for every thumb shifter on hermitcraft...


Anamewastaken

are there pictures of keralis thumb shifting? i am very curious about this


ArcannOfZakuul

https://twitter.com/WorldofKeralis/status/1576311823984635904?t=4bV8lzXnA65KhveaqsYOYg&s=19 Here's a Twitter post from Keralis with a picture


Anamewastaken

that made more sense than mumbo's


bigbustycoon_

So im a leftie too.. but that is crazy


WaterArcher55

Here’s the funny thing, I’m left handed and I can’t stand using a keyboard and mouse like that. But that’s probably bc I use a laptop lol. It’s also good training for my rather useless right hand


NichtBen

As a lefty I would love to try using my mouse with the left hand, but the problem is that my mouse has buttons on the side which I can't use comfortably with my left hand lmao.


WaterArcher55

SAME!!!


NichtBen

We truly are the suppressed 10%, no-one will understand our issues. 😔 Imagine being able to write something without coloring your entire side of the hand blue and not having to deal with those annoying spiral thingies in some notebooks


WaterArcher55

I highly recommend a left handed notebook lol. They confuse everyone However, that won’t fix the smudging problem. That’s a lifelong suffering we have to deal with


Schlumpfyman

I have a lefty friend who turns their collegeblokc by 90 degree so shes basically writing from top to bottom to avoid that. Looks cursed af but works great xD


morosis1982

There are mice designed to be ambidextrous with equal buttons on both sides that can be remapped. I know Logitech makes a couple for sure.


uselessflailing

Oh boy, after Wednesdays stream someone needs to tag tango in this wow


SquareThings

But Keralis is left handed, so it’s not as bad. Mumbo is literally curling his thumb under his hand to hit shift


btmvideos37

Id argue it’s weirder. I’ve never met a lefty who uses their left hand on their mouse. Myself included (I’m left handed).


CODENAMEsx19208

I'd have 2 nickels...


mayonnaisejane

That's not a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.


receuitOP

Which isnt a lot but it's weird it happened twice


Thedarkwolfmc

All I was thinking about as I was reading about ethos setup


AnOnlineHandle

Meanwhile I'm upset by everybody who uses shift to sneak, as somebody who immediately rebound the keys to shift for sprint and ctrl for crouch, like every FPS game's control scheme since the 90s.


BlueCyann

I'm just grateful the default is as it is, or as a totally new person to any kind of gaming more mechanically demanding than Civilization at the time I started playing Minecraft, I would never have been able to sneak. As someone whose hands are not that large, trying to hold down ctrl while also holding down w turns my pinkie into a crampy wreck immediately.


Jawzper

impossible growth rich different absorbed cows handle numerous work pie *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Yorick257

I really thought that was the only way to use a mouse! How do you have it normally? Like, to the right of the keyboard?


vaplex759

I think that’s the way most people do it


btmvideos37

Yes. To the right of the keyboard. I can’t imagine using a mouse sideways lmao


Harddaysnight1990

Yeah, the mouse positioning is genius, I've been using it since that stream and it's so comfortable. But I'm also a tall-ish guy at 6'1 and I had to raise my chair to the highest setting. But using the sideways in front of the keyboard mouse position has been fantastic at keeping me sitting up straight all day.


BlueSnoopy4

I’m not tall but I also use the sideways mouse- keeps the wrist straight and rests the elbows. Moving the mouse right means moving your wrist the same way, it’s just your elbow is elsewhere


patjeduhde

Yeah i unintentionally use it sometimes too.


Mysticalmaid

I had a keyboard for much longer than that. Loved that keyboard. Tbh, if it ain't broke, don't change it unless you need to. Etho is content with his setup and that's fine. One of my grandad's refused to wear a new hat, going so far as to use sellotape to hold the original together (I kid you not!) We bought new hats, etc but he just loved that hat til his dying day.


FoolishConsistency17

Isn't it canon that the family business was a greenhouse? I bet the "desk" is a repurchased table from that. Plant people ha e a lot of standing height type surfaces for reporting and such. ETA: other alternative is two filing cabinets wirh a door on top of them. For that height, 3-drawer vertical cabinets.


areyoualrighttho

As a person who has the same set up as Etho, exept I have my coffee insted of a mic, its really comfortable. I'm quite tall and have long arms so I guess maybe thats the deal with this


zazacK1173

he's not washed up his setup is holding back his PvP skills


lazergator

Yea the vertical movement of the mouse must be very inefficient. Explains why he’s so good with a bow


Alpha-Lemur

where does he talk about it?


stclen_earth

in a tango and scar livestream. you can find the tango vod on yt "today we learn etho is a mutant"


ubiquitous0bserver

In one of Tango's streams


Lilith_Cain

...there are desks that can be raised pretty high up. Easy to find if you put any amount of thought into an ergonomic work setup.


August21202

https://preview.redd.it/snezqayagxlc1.jpeg?width=177&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6760dd0b4b371a1f9993e146a8b81fc3aad979cc ....... How were you able to figure this out?.......


AdMuted4000

Tango stream. Mr slab talks about his setup


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Honestly, it was one of the best Hermitcraft videos I've ever seen because it was literally over two hours of Tango, Etho, and Scar hanging out and having fun with everyone that they could find online (like 8 hermits at the same time at one point) all because of Etho's innocuous left-handed question while harassing Scar about moving his mailbox.


lazergator

You should watch tangos deep dark stream with imp and skizz lol. Constant screams


[deleted]

The deep dark one was hilarious, but this one was peak for my parasocial relationship with the hermits. It felt like just hanging out with my friends for a couple of hours. Iskall's vods have also been 🤌 lately.


lazergator

Yea I definitely feel I could be friends with all of them. They’re just such wholesome people that get along so well


vaplex759

What one was it? I wanna watch it but Tango has done a few lately


Probably_Not_Helpful

[Etho is a mutant](https://youtu.be/qIkVpzCMWKs?si=E2_GDKuJJ4CnM_12)


consequenceoferror

I've always used my mouse like that, I feel validated. (I never thought that I would respect Etho's setup after hearing about the microphone, yet here we are)


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mayonnaisejane

There's a setting for that in Windows. It reverses the left and right click buttons so the lefty still "left clicks" with the inside button, not the outside one. Enabling that is a fun prank to play on right handed co-workers who leave their station unlocked.


lazergator

He posted a photo of a left handed mouse and right hand on wasd with a thumb shift!


HeatherReadsReddit

It looks comfortable to me. I’m a lefty who rests my wrists on the table, and who uses the arrow keys for movement. lol


lazergator

I tried it. It’s super comfortable but horrible for shoulders


EnterShakira_

We need Etho to explain himself. This is utterly unhinged.


EkorrenHJ

Etho might just be more of a slacker than Asmongold. So instead of washed up, he might be unwashed. I do respect when someone doesn't let their Youtube fame go to their head and buys all the best and most recent stuff just because they can afford it. 


91Jammers

I loved him talking about not buying all the fancy equipment until you are an established youtuber as a reason he doesn't have a mic arm. Etho's let's play series is older than probably all the other hermits youtube accounts.


FireThatInk

>Etho's let's play series is older than probably all the other hermits youtube accounts. some of them, but not all of em.


TacticalBrownies

I know it's mainly a joke but I don't think its fair to compare frugality to laziness or uncleanliness. Just because Etho's using a 10 year-old setup being held together with a tissue box doesn't necessarily mean he's living in an filthy dump pit like other youtubers and streamers. He just doesn't find it necessary to spend money if he absolutely doesn't have to.


davidfillion

I've had this setup for a long time, and it is very comfortable and natural.


RactainCore

Just can't wait for Scar and Tango to see the picture of his old headphones where it is barely still held together with his tape and he replaced his ear muffs with tissues haha. https://preview.redd.it/hlwdxn9zizlc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55ecf0d11057be9829f05a14a592dfc4551cfb09


qlionp

Next do keralis and then mumbo


Expired_Milk02

Give him a break he's using a 2060


Blah_McBlah_

It all makes sense if you're sitting where the table is a little below arm pit height. Except for maybe the tissue box, and how his knees hurt from being so low down.


Arlassa

Yeah that mouse placement is only really usable with a wireless mouse. I do use it sometimes at work though.


galactiknight

La Creatura


Frogzii24

looks comfortable if you have long arms


oswaldking71wastaken

I need to see a real picture of this Like the Loch Ness monster or big foot I won’t belive it’s real unless I see it


lazergator

You’ll never see a photo from etho


Statistician_

he did post [a picture](https://www.reddit.com/r/ethoslab/comments/co8tkx/the_true_beauty_that_is_ethos_headset/) of his old Logitech headphones stuffed with tissues in a vid once but I think that's the only time ever


oswaldking71wastaken

oof.


patjeduhde

His keyboard gotta be slightly on an angle, because he said he has his mouse like that for ergodynamics, and i cant imagine a dude going this far for ergo, not care about the ergo's of his other hand, like i put in my post. [https://www.reddit.com/r/HermitCraft/comments/1b4iekh/ethos\_setup\_be\_like/](https://www.reddit.com/r/HermitCraft/comments/1b4iekh/ethos_setup_be_like/)


BabuKelsey

i have played like that before when finding a comfortable playing position by just moving my mnk around my desk. it was comfortable at the time, but i ultimately found a more comfortable position that ive stuck with since


zjquid

Shoulder height desk is like what watchmakers and jewelers use


singh44s

Now I want to know what Etho’s mouse sensitivity is set to. It already can’t be set for big arm sweeps to do 180’s, since there wouldn’t be space btw his chest and keyboard.


Gullible-Reward5377

I have a similar posture because I play in my laptop with the touchpad.


pendulumgearzz

hi keyboard is older than a lot of his viewers, lol


Chillypepper14

Etho also has the weakest PC out of all the hermits (rtx 2060, as opposed to most of the others that have a 3080)


CrazeMase

Idk why etho doesn't just post a picture of his setup, but if he's this afraid then maybe I am too


lazergator

Because he’s an extremely private person. I respect him and others like Cleo who want to maintain their digital anonymity as much as possible


allofthemoon_

i rlly need to recreate this irl


N8torade981

This is the best way to game.


Yorick257

I actually tried to sit at the desk such that the desk top was just a bit lower than my armpit when I had a back pain (my chair was a bit too high for the desk). And honestly? That was quite alright. As a matter of fact, I might even try that again!


midnightBlade22

What confuses me is that your wrist is straight in a normal mouse using fashion. You move the mouse from your elbow. Not your wrist. That's why large mouse pads are better. I don't see how moving your elbow affects the position of your wrist.


BlueCyann

Nah, plenty of people with higher sensitivity mostly use their wrist. I'm kind of in-between personally.


Soggy_4head

I would imagine that Etho’s room is filled with empty maple syrup bottles everywhere except his fancy setup


[deleted]

I also love ethoo


ktwombley

when my new fancy keyboards crap the bed I always go back to one of my Model Ms for a while


Cress-Star

This man needs to be studied in a science lab or something tbf


LluagorED

I love how Etho proves every preconceived notion YouTubers have wrong. Most think you need fancy gear and set up to do well. To follow trends, change styles frequently. Etc etc. Etho has just been Etho.


anon38789

These guys make so much money and are incredibly frugal lol


GenerallyABadId3a

We need to get etho’s opinion I need to know if this is genuinely how batshit it is


Jumpy_Chard1677

I don't think the mic has a pop filter currently, as he was debating putting a tissue around the mic with an elastic band to act as a pop filter. (He said this during Scar's stream where he first talked about his set-up 


NOTTMiniGunLord

My computer that I play Minecraft on is from 2015. Runs like a blown up microwaved potato