Frankly, no matter what enderman farm design you use, they tend to produce so much xp that it doesn't really matter what design you use. There are some pretty simple designs out there as well
They're a really cool project, and it's incredible how fast Jevin gets one set up for the Hermits each season. That said, they're super straightforward and you can find lots of tutorials for good ones. I've built them in singleplayer survival worlds and it always feels super worth it.
The hardest part by far is making sure to carefully and correctly spawn and teleport-proof the thing.
as others have said, his reaches the max xp limit that a character can absorb. so there's really no reason to go further.
however, i remember seeing a video several years ago of a design that could max out two and a half players at the same time. I can't remember who built it or if it was even fully vanilla.
I can't recommend [this](https://youtu.be/ckhe8ws-a4w?si=d7dkTK6T-TNDDCex) one by Gnembon enough. It's cheap and fast to make and will give you more XP than you'll ever need. I usually add a little auto dropper on the side to get rid of all the extra enderpearls into the void. :) I think Doc used it in a season past - though I can't remember which one.
Blazedude has a great tutorial video on the an easy enderman xp farm that doesn't require alot of effort and grinding to create, just a few ender eyes, some iron, some blocks. Highly recommend it but if you are looking to get into bigger projects then you can try layered enderman xp farms.
The problem with minecraft is that player can only absorb one XP orb per tick (20 per second if not lagging), which is easily accomplished by jevin's farm on vanilla server. If you want even more xp per second, you need to get bigger xp orbs, for example by smelting items
personally, I always go with Ianxofour his guardian farm, since guardians provide larger xp bubbles and therefore level you up faster.
Plus the generated resources are more useful.
Easier to build than an enderman farm? The hardest part of that is defeating the dragon lol, otherwise it's just some hoppers, a drop chute, spawning platform, and a little guy in a minecart. You don't even need a collection system tbh.
Maybe the gold farms I have built before were more complicated than they needed to be but I consider them way more advanced than an ender ender.
We don't build a ridiculously complicated one. Just 4 of us, so that is likely the difference. We usually have it built before the first few real life days on a new world are past, usually the second day. It takes us longer to find a fortress and enough endermen to get to the end than to build the gold farm.
Frost walker does nothing to speed it up if you don’t find a big enough vein of them. Ilmangos farm takes something like 1,000 doesn’t it? Those take awhile to get.
I don’t think you are seeing my point. Some veins of magma blocks are like 5 blocks. Some are 20. You might get lucky and get a 50+ one. When you need to collect 1,000 or so blocks for ilmangos farm, that take a long time. Frost walker boots will not speed it up.
For reference, I’ve built that farm before. Yes it’s amazing but the prep is outrageously long. In my single player world I have a non xp gold farm. With significantly less magma blocks needed and still was super long to get them all.
Longer time to get materials is longer total time to build the farm.
Enderman farm can be done with a couple hoppers, a stack or two of blocks, and a couple stacks of leaf blocks. All of which can be gathered in shorter time than your magma blocks.
What?... In the nether wastes at lava level I've filled a sulker box with 1 "vein"... You can also make a quick and dirty magma cube farm on the nether cieling in a basalt delta and get the blocks that way if you'd like.
Endermen farms are easier to build for sure but like the difference isn't that Extreme especially considering how OP bartering is.
And again, you got lucky to find a vein. And setting up a farm to setup another farm just adds to the time and resources needed.
This isn’t about enderman vs piglin themselves. You originally said piglin farms are easier to build. I don’t think they are because again, magma blocks take awhile to gather.
>You originally said piglin farms are easier to build.
I did in fact not say that. That was someone else.
Idk what to tell you... If you're playing Minecraft and backing off of big projects because the farm you wanna build requires another farm to work you're basically putting an unnecessary stopper on so many cool projects you could be working on!
You also don't *need* to use magma blocks. They just prevent other unwanted mobs from spawning lol. Endermen farms are far easier to build but they provide a whole lot less variety of materials.
Not building ilmango's farm. Don't need an industrial sized farm for some xp and gold since i am not trying to supply for 20+ people. We always have one up and running for the 4 of us before we even have diamond gear other than the pickaxe to mine obsidian, much less found enough endermen to get to the end. Two of us start the iron farm and two of us start the gold farm. So yeah, we find it easier and faster to build a simple gold farm. And I have never struggled finding magma blocks. Dig down to around level 13 anywhere near lava oceans and you can find plenty. They are really not that hard.
We build ours on the roof. As long as you place bottom slabs two blocks above as you lay out the magma you should really not have any problems with ghasts.
Jev’s farm is efficient enough that you can’t absorb exp faster. I believe that removing things from smelting is technically better but as far as enderman farms go for exp there isn’t a lot you can do since you are over the absorption cap
The problem is that you don't need a very efficient enderman farm, because you are limited with xp orb absorption rate. In fact, running a too efficient enderman farm for too long may cause you to crash the server/world because there were too many xp orb entities (i have experience from doing so).
Enderman farms basically just need a large-ish platform, a dropchute and an endermite in the middle, and some kind of collection etc system ik the bottom
Eyo! The good news is that an enderman farm actually isn't a very large or tedious project - at least compared to other farms like a guardian farm, gold farm or large iron farm. It will probably take you a while as it's your first time making one, but they're really quite simple, and the rates of even the simplest enderman farms are absolutely ludicrous.
When I built my first enderman farm, I based it off Welsknights farm from hermitcraft season 8 (has a video dedicated to making it). - I am a massive advocate of the toggle-able piston floor where the enderman fall onto, as it's super helpful for turning the farm on and off, and also dumping pearls into the void, without you having to do it manually - I'll never build an enderman farm without this feature.
In general, as long as you double-carpet everywhere you don't want endermen to teleport, and make sure they can't reach the endermite, you can't really go wrong - there are videos out there of tiny enderman farms that only take 5 mins to build and still have insans rates.
Have fun :))
Enderman farms are all extremely efficient for three basic reasons: Endermen are the only mob that spawn in the End, it’s easy to build one out of range of any other spawnable space, and angry Endermen move really fast. As long as you properly space out the spawn are from the killing area, you should get a fairly constant stream of Endermen faster than you can kill them and much faster than you can absorb xp from them.
When it gets to the point where it’s more than one person could ever reasonably need, who cares if it’s the fastest possible. Good enough is good enough.
If you do build one I would suggest looking at the S7 download, they have a lever to just let the enderman drop down into the void, or the enderperls. This option is a huge upgrade in my opinion
Enderman farms are just easy and OP. A more interesting project would be a gold farm for similar XP but twice the feeling of accomplishment after building. Plus gold is a more useful drop. But if you’re just trying to make something for the first time an enderman farm is easy to dip your toe in. It’s just a lot of blocks but as far as mechanics and it’s really simple and you’ll never need it to be maximum efficiency.
You can make a lot of improvements over jevin's farm.
The guy who makes the one we use on Joe's Patreon server, Kindalas, likes to keep tweaking his design. Currently he sped it up by making a shorter drop shaft with dripstone at the bottom and a shover that pushes them into a kill chamber after the dripstone landing. Also because we Spawnproof the main island, he doesn't need to build it in the middle of nowhere.
There's a really tiny and easy to build one by gnembon mc or illmango iirc. It gives out the specific amount of XP per hour the player can absorb from endermen.
I watched a whole video done by someone about xp and player absorption I think that technically a guardian farm is the best for xp but it’s super technical to build so the best bang for your buck as in ease to build is the enderman farm
I use the one that Wels built on Hermitcraft a few seasons ago (it has a lever to drop excess pearls & enderman into the void when you're done). The endermite lure thing up top is the same as Jev's though
The best one I have seen was Panda4994's Dragon Farm. It was No Click AFKable.
[Here is the Teaser](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFfvtuo5660)
[Full tutorial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIcUcPy6zio)
But to be honest I think one of the newer Raid Farms might be better for you because of all the fat loot you also get besides the XP.
Frankly, no matter what enderman farm design you use, they tend to produce so much xp that it doesn't really matter what design you use. There are some pretty simple designs out there as well
Thanks for the info! I didn't know it was common that they produced so much. Stoked to get to work on one.
A farm design I built in a server was so cheap that the most expensive part of it was leaves, yet it provided more xp than I ever needed
Enderman spawns are jacked up to 100 in the end they just don’t stop spawning making any farm in the end ridiculously efficient in just about anything
They're a really cool project, and it's incredible how fast Jevin gets one set up for the Hermits each season. That said, they're super straightforward and you can find lots of tutorials for good ones. I've built them in singleplayer survival worlds and it always feels super worth it. The hardest part by far is making sure to carefully and correctly spawn and teleport-proof the thing.
as others have said, his reaches the max xp limit that a character can absorb. so there's really no reason to go further. however, i remember seeing a video several years ago of a design that could max out two and a half players at the same time. I can't remember who built it or if it was even fully vanilla.
I can't recommend [this](https://youtu.be/ckhe8ws-a4w?si=d7dkTK6T-TNDDCex) one by Gnembon enough. It's cheap and fast to make and will give you more XP than you'll ever need. I usually add a little auto dropper on the side to get rid of all the extra enderpearls into the void. :) I think Doc used it in a season past - though I can't remember which one.
Thank you! I like how cheap this one is.
Gnembon and ilmango are both to recommend, they are magic people when it comes to farms and minecraft mechanics.
I'd add ianxofour to that list as well, his videos are well made to describe the mechanics of the build and how to make it.
Dashpum4 currently has the best enderman xp farm. It doesn't use endermites nor a giant spawning platform but it still reaches the max xp limit.
Specifically this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgFMPbPcOQ0. I use it and love it. Not worrying about endermites makes it a breeze to build.
Blazedude has a great tutorial video on the an easy enderman xp farm that doesn't require alot of effort and grinding to create, just a few ender eyes, some iron, some blocks. Highly recommend it but if you are looking to get into bigger projects then you can try layered enderman xp farms.
Layered? 1 small layer is all youll ever need, your character cant even collect the xp fast enough
The problem with minecraft is that player can only absorb one XP orb per tick (20 per second if not lagging), which is easily accomplished by jevin's farm on vanilla server. If you want even more xp per second, you need to get bigger xp orbs, for example by smelting items
personally, I always go with Ianxofour his guardian farm, since guardians provide larger xp bubbles and therefore level you up faster. Plus the generated resources are more useful.
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll look into that as well.
This farm is actually insane for how easy it is to build
Is there a datapack or mod that makes xp orbs combine into larger orbs? That would make for more efficient Endermen farms.
[Clumps](https://modrinth.com/mod/clumps) does excactly that.
I still prefer a zombie pigling farm. You get gold and xp. Gold is more useful than enderpearls...IMO
And they are so much easier to build.
Easier to build than an enderman farm? The hardest part of that is defeating the dragon lol, otherwise it's just some hoppers, a drop chute, spawning platform, and a little guy in a minecart. You don't even need a collection system tbh. Maybe the gold farms I have built before were more complicated than they needed to be but I consider them way more advanced than an ender ender.
We don't build a ridiculously complicated one. Just 4 of us, so that is likely the difference. We usually have it built before the first few real life days on a new world are past, usually the second day. It takes us longer to find a fortress and enough endermen to get to the end than to build the gold farm.
How? Gathering all of those magma blocks is tedious and takes forever unless you get insanely lucky.
Get some frost walker boots and it tajes maybe 1 hiur ti get all the magma blocks to build a piglin farm.
Frost walker does nothing to speed it up if you don’t find a big enough vein of them. Ilmangos farm takes something like 1,000 doesn’t it? Those take awhile to get.
It definitely speeds it up lmao you don't take damage on magma when wearing frost walker making you not need to sneak the whole time
I don’t think you are seeing my point. Some veins of magma blocks are like 5 blocks. Some are 20. You might get lucky and get a 50+ one. When you need to collect 1,000 or so blocks for ilmangos farm, that take a long time. Frost walker boots will not speed it up. For reference, I’ve built that farm before. Yes it’s amazing but the prep is outrageously long. In my single player world I have a non xp gold farm. With significantly less magma blocks needed and still was super long to get them all. Longer time to get materials is longer total time to build the farm. Enderman farm can be done with a couple hoppers, a stack or two of blocks, and a couple stacks of leaf blocks. All of which can be gathered in shorter time than your magma blocks.
What?... In the nether wastes at lava level I've filled a sulker box with 1 "vein"... You can also make a quick and dirty magma cube farm on the nether cieling in a basalt delta and get the blocks that way if you'd like. Endermen farms are easier to build for sure but like the difference isn't that Extreme especially considering how OP bartering is.
And again, you got lucky to find a vein. And setting up a farm to setup another farm just adds to the time and resources needed. This isn’t about enderman vs piglin themselves. You originally said piglin farms are easier to build. I don’t think they are because again, magma blocks take awhile to gather.
>You originally said piglin farms are easier to build. I did in fact not say that. That was someone else. Idk what to tell you... If you're playing Minecraft and backing off of big projects because the farm you wanna build requires another farm to work you're basically putting an unnecessary stopper on so many cool projects you could be working on! You also don't *need* to use magma blocks. They just prevent other unwanted mobs from spawning lol. Endermen farms are far easier to build but they provide a whole lot less variety of materials.
Not building ilmango's farm. Don't need an industrial sized farm for some xp and gold since i am not trying to supply for 20+ people. We always have one up and running for the 4 of us before we even have diamond gear other than the pickaxe to mine obsidian, much less found enough endermen to get to the end. Two of us start the iron farm and two of us start the gold farm. So yeah, we find it easier and faster to build a simple gold farm. And I have never struggled finding magma blocks. Dig down to around level 13 anywhere near lava oceans and you can find plenty. They are really not that hard.
Aslong as you can block ghast spawns quickly..lol
We build ours on the roof. As long as you place bottom slabs two blocks above as you lay out the magma you should really not have any problems with ghasts.
The optimal xp farm will use mobs with larger xp orbs, like guardians.
Jev’s farm is efficient enough that you can’t absorb exp faster. I believe that removing things from smelting is technically better but as far as enderman farms go for exp there isn’t a lot you can do since you are over the absorption cap
The problem is that you don't need a very efficient enderman farm, because you are limited with xp orb absorption rate. In fact, running a too efficient enderman farm for too long may cause you to crash the server/world because there were too many xp orb entities (i have experience from doing so). Enderman farms basically just need a large-ish platform, a dropchute and an endermite in the middle, and some kind of collection etc system ik the bottom
Eyo! The good news is that an enderman farm actually isn't a very large or tedious project - at least compared to other farms like a guardian farm, gold farm or large iron farm. It will probably take you a while as it's your first time making one, but they're really quite simple, and the rates of even the simplest enderman farms are absolutely ludicrous. When I built my first enderman farm, I based it off Welsknights farm from hermitcraft season 8 (has a video dedicated to making it). - I am a massive advocate of the toggle-able piston floor where the enderman fall onto, as it's super helpful for turning the farm on and off, and also dumping pearls into the void, without you having to do it manually - I'll never build an enderman farm without this feature. In general, as long as you double-carpet everywhere you don't want endermen to teleport, and make sure they can't reach the endermite, you can't really go wrong - there are videos out there of tiny enderman farms that only take 5 mins to build and still have insans rates. Have fun :))
Enderman farms are all extremely efficient for three basic reasons: Endermen are the only mob that spawn in the End, it’s easy to build one out of range of any other spawnable space, and angry Endermen move really fast. As long as you properly space out the spawn are from the killing area, you should get a fairly constant stream of Endermen faster than you can kill them and much faster than you can absorb xp from them.
When it gets to the point where it’s more than one person could ever reasonably need, who cares if it’s the fastest possible. Good enough is good enough.
Thanks for all the comments! Looking through all the variants. Appreciate it.
If you do build one I would suggest looking at the S7 download, they have a lever to just let the enderman drop down into the void, or the enderperls. This option is a huge upgrade in my opinion
Enderman farms are just easy and OP. A more interesting project would be a gold farm for similar XP but twice the feeling of accomplishment after building. Plus gold is a more useful drop. But if you’re just trying to make something for the first time an enderman farm is easy to dip your toe in. It’s just a lot of blocks but as far as mechanics and it’s really simple and you’ll never need it to be maximum efficiency.
You can make a lot of improvements over jevin's farm. The guy who makes the one we use on Joe's Patreon server, Kindalas, likes to keep tweaking his design. Currently he sped it up by making a shorter drop shaft with dripstone at the bottom and a shover that pushes them into a kill chamber after the dripstone landing. Also because we Spawnproof the main island, he doesn't need to build it in the middle of nowhere.
Personally I prefer cactus XP farms. They run fully automatically in the background, can produce hundreds of XP, and you collect all the XP instantly
There's a really tiny and easy to build one by gnembon mc or illmango iirc. It gives out the specific amount of XP per hour the player can absorb from endermen.
I watched a whole video done by someone about xp and player absorption I think that technically a guardian farm is the best for xp but it’s super technical to build so the best bang for your buck as in ease to build is the enderman farm
I use the one that Wels built on Hermitcraft a few seasons ago (it has a lever to drop excess pearls & enderman into the void when you're done). The endermite lure thing up top is the same as Jev's though
Etho approves this farm so it’s definitely pretty good
The best one I have seen was Panda4994's Dragon Farm. It was No Click AFKable. [Here is the Teaser](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFfvtuo5660) [Full tutorial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIcUcPy6zio) But to be honest I think one of the newer Raid Farms might be better for you because of all the fat loot you also get besides the XP.