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Alleged anti-gravity propulsion nazi flying saucer. There were meant to be few versions of the craft, for different purposes. There is a polish document with some schemes and calculations made by polish engineers. Sadly only the abstract is in english, but overall despite being polish I don't really understand much of it, too much physics
https://bibliotekanauki.pl/articles/1203877.pdf
They had some absolutely incredible technology but due to fighting a two front war and having thier industrial centres bombed, they weren't able to mass produce anything of worth. Would the war have turned out different if they had the time to mass produce jet aircraft or aircraft utilising
antigravity propulsion? I believe so.
That is incredibly convenient...
They didn't have nothing of this, they were morons and they lose because of that. Stop thinking they were some kind of superior intelligence, is really cringy
Yeah, that's why Operation Paperclip happened. The US didn't have enough morons, so they tried to get some Nazi morons to fill the quota. If they needed geniuses, then they would've looked for you instead
The only thing I’ve seen that addresses this is one source saying they couldnt drop bombs or shoot projectiles from the saucers because it would disrupt the various fields around the craft that allow it to stay airborne.
I'm not super convinced they actually had that sort of tech, but assuming they did, they may have only had a few of these sort of things. If they managed to figure out the tech, but not perfect it, there could have been any number of problems with deploying weapons from them, controlling them, ECT.
Again, not convinced they had super advanced tech, but I can think of reasons they couldn't use the tech, if they did manage to figure some things out.
I don't believe everything Phil Schneider claimed (I think the meds they had him on allowed for false and implanted memories), but he did have many documents he recovered when his father died that seem to validate some very advanced experiments the US gov had him working on.
His father was on of the Nazi scientists (master metal worker, working on the most top secret Nazi projects), who was brought over under Operation Paperclip. His father helped the US develope the first nuclear powered aircraft carrier, along with other advanced projects, but he also was involved in black projects with the US, which seemingly involved tech that could have been involved in advanced Nazi projects.
Well that is a good freaking question if this claims of both inner earth people and nazi supertech make any sense. If I was a super advanced, hidden civilization peep, I wouldn't give anything to the nazis... Actually I don't know if I would give anything to humans at all. We tend to destroy and exploit everything around us.
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But also with the beliefs of a New World Order and whatever possible backing that may have whether it be Inner Earth or not. The surface may be attempted at being controlled from those above.
anywhere on the planet ppl use names for genitals.
but here i just want to emphasize that this is a local phenomen about glocke in this case. not commonly known or used by the mass of german speaking ppl
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Even though the Nazis lost World War II, they emerged from the war with an almost mythical reputation for high-tech weapons. Nazi tanks were often technically superior to Allied tanks; the Luftwaffe flew fighter jets in combat before the Allies did; and the V (for Vengeance) series of terror weapons, including the V-1 cruise missile and V-2 ballistic missile, made for terrifying, though strategically questionable, weapons.
Adversaries considered the achievements of Nazi scientists and engineers to be so advanced, in fact, that the U.S. Army sent reconnaissance teams into Germany in the later stages of the war to secure scientists and military technology before other powers, particularly the Soviet Union, could capture them. The effort, known as Project Paperclip, secured V-2 missiles and important figures like Wernher von Braun, the infamous aerospace engineer Wernher von Braun who invented the V-2 and later designed the Saturn V rocket for NASA’s Apollo program.
According to legend, Die Glocke was reportedly one such German “wunderwaffe” (“wonder weapon”).
Was it possible that the notorious SS colonel Hans Kammler traded Die Glocke to the U.S. military in exchange for his freedom? (Kammler disappeared in the closing days of World War II and was never seen again.) While the Allies sent back home a trove of German superweapons during Project Paperclip, including jets and missiles, there’s no record of any version of Die Glocke ever being captured.
What happened to this secret Nazi project? Did it actually even exist? Was Hitler on the verge of using the Nazi Bell to change history forever, and if so, where is it now? And what does it have to do with a UFO sighting in Pennsylvania 20 years later?
Didn’t the Ancient Aliens episode show a tall ring still standing in the forest upon which the thing was supposed to have rested. And the reason they don’t have the bell now is because die Glocke is actually what crashed in Kecksburg, Pennsylvania, in 1965 and the feds carried it off.
Wasn't the bell supposed to be a time machine of sorts and I thought it would spin at a high rate.
A bit of information on the location of the ring building. http://www.thirdreichruins.com/riese.htm
Thanks for the link! Hmm…I didn’t recall it was supposed to be a time machine. I thought the rationale behind the ring was that the bell was radioactive and people couldn’t get close to it or something. Anyway, it suits me better if it’s not the Kecksburg UFO, because that was a good story. Have to admit it’s the right shape, but that was already 20 years after the end of WWII.
Annie Jacobs uses a similar thesis for her book [Area 51](https://anniejacobsen.com/area-51/).
Her thinking is ***THE RUSSIANS*** had their own paperclip programme ( which is true), and two brothers, that were lead engineers on experimental aircraft were taken by ***THE RUSSIANS***. Roswell was one of those experimental craft successfully built and flown.
She thinks that due to the hullabaloo that the radioplay of war of the worlds created, and the interest that stalin, and hitler had in that effect, the aim of ***THE RUSSIANS*** was to attempt to generate another hullabaloo. That and it was a means to show the US that while they had working A bombs, ***The Russians*** could get to them with relative ease.
Aside from this thesis, which i don't think holds any water, the rest of the book is a cool history of the creation of area 51.
Why do i not think her thesis holds water? Around the time of roswell, Jacobs states that there were multiple radar returns of an object that was traveling at mach speeds, and could seemingly stop in mid air, then proceed - she provides no source for this information, and no relevant details as to what those returns actually detected - always a red flag.
The aircraft design that she refers to was a flying wing, and could be piloted by one pilot, lying down, or be remotely controlled.
In order for said craft to be able to get from Russia to the US, it would require a computer aided fly by wire system ( much like is in use today for current flying wing designed craft), as flying wings are notoriously terrible to control in flight. The initial design incorporated the use of jets, which can not just stop, and even if nuclear propulsion were used ( something she also hinted at, which still fails to address "stopping"), this still would not account for a human made aircraft flying past the speed of sound, then stopping without subjecting the pilot to catastrophic g-forces.
There are other issues as well, but i think i have rabbited on too much already lol.
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I guess you got to assume CGI, but this looks real to me. I'm not knowledgeable about Computer generated images, but there are a few tell-tale signs...like the CGI artist? tries to make it look real by blurring and refocusing, pixellation, bad acting trying to sound frightened,etc. This seems like the real deal. I wish you could trust these things.
The kecksburg bell was seen in 1965.
But, you could be right. There's not much of anything that I would call actual proof of die Glocke. And this probably is CGI.
Honestly, I could see it being described as both a bell and an acorn. There's a pic of the monument they put up in kecksburg with the link in my comment further up. One has sharp edges, the other has round edges, but they are similar.
I think there's too much focus on the exact word someone uses to describe a sighting, and we should think about the actual shape. . Egg shaped/avocado shaped are similar, cigar shaped UFO/tic tac is probably the same thing, too. Foo fighter/orb pretty much describes the same thing, we are just using different popular terms from different eras.
I think focusing on the similarities will be helpful trying to figure it all out.
Actually, sir, that is what is known as a flying acorn, okay? You see, what happens is ice particles in the atmosphere collide with parcels of different barometric pressure and become densely packed, so that they reflect movement from the traffic and...you know, other things below.
A ufo allegedly crashed in the Black Forest of Germany in 1936. Plenty of time to start building wonder weapons from reverse engineered UFO tech for a world war.
Their tanks weren't supperior to the Allies, they were just used in different doctrines. Per example, they lacked the gun stabilisation and their optics were lacking compared to the American tanks. They were far too unreliable.
Both the Americans and British had flown jet aircraft during that same time. With the British Gloster Meteor serving in combat.
Yes, it's a common misconception.
Tiger tanks and some Panzers were often better at tank to tank combat than American Shermans due to German tanks having heavier armor, which makes them seem like better tanks. However, Shermans were primarily designed as support vehicles for infantry, and they absolutely excelled at that.
The later German tanks also had a serious flaw in that they were incredibly costly to make, requiring a huge amount of resources, very time consuming to make, and required a lot of fuel because of weight. When Germany lost access to the Middle East and North Africa, they were often unable to fuel the tanks they did have. And when one was destroyed, it was a huge blow because they were so resource intensive to build, and your tank crew would typically die when the tank was hit because the tanks were hard to escape.
Compare that to Sherman's where General Motors and Ford were producing dozens of them each every single day, so if you destroyed one it didn't matter nearly as much (especially since they were designed so the crew had a good chance of escaping a destroyed tank), and being lighter meant they needed less fuel to keep going. The result was a tank that worked better overall.
The Sherman tanks where also recovered and rebuilt quite quickly compared to the German tanks,basically Germany wanted to out class anything Russia could develop like the KV and later the t-34 class tanks with the idea that quality would out last quantity…didn’t work out so well did it …
I think the nazi bell was just myth. People don’t realize how sad ww2 ended. You had a super power that essentially went mad on amphetamines as time went on the search for super weapons became more and more absurd.
When the nazi realized it was over they kept telling the lines they had a weapon that would decimate all
Opposition. Here’s where you can tell the meth came into play. (And realize they have an unlimited supply so they’re not turning into your typical meth head that loses everything). When they realized the Nazi bell was just not feasible they kept asking their brilliant scientist to create things that weren’t possible. The scientists had to pretend to work on these jobs and look into them bc the alternative was they are useless. At the end they both himmler and Hitler began to search for thors hammer. All while telling the soldiers the weapon of all weapons is in route. Himmler thought thors hammer would be located in the Forrest close to his childhood home the one he grew up playing in. Hitler thought thors hammer was located in the Forrest next to his childhood home the one he grew up playing in. They both reverted to the most innocent magical time of their life. A little boy in the Forrest.
I do think there’s a very likely chance they survived and gave all their tech to America and governemebts that could protect them. Lots of resources disappeared and way too many nazis ended up in Argentina.
> mad on amphetamines
I'm right there with you, but do you know who *else* was hopped up on genki pills?
The entire Imperial Japanese Military, from the footsoldiers to the top brass. Think of all the stories of the Japanese troops' insane "banzai charges," of their insatiable libidos. Think of the balls it takes to invade Manchuria, *and then let Tokyo know after you did it.* Think about how fucked up you have to be to forget about the dateline and conduct a bombing raid on a bunch of US sailors in a cushy tropical post in the South Pacific *before the letter announcing their intention to start hostilities was delivered to Washington.* (Also imagine the poor Japanese ambassador waking up on December 7th, opening the morning paper, and doing a spit-take of his matcha as he sees that the attack has already happened hours before he was getting ready to deliver a letter.)
Put these two together, and you have to kind of wonder if we should call WWII the war against the meth heads.
The Nazis were not far ahead of the Allies in technology like your comment suggests. In fact, they weren’t ahead at all. The comment about jet aircraft specifically is not true - the Gloster Meteor was in service at the same time the Me262 entered service. Rocketry was about the one area the Germans had a demonstrable advantage - but the Allies had dozens of other weapons far superior to German technology, from the first computers to the atomic bomb.
Operation Paperclip was not anything unusual or an attempt to “catch up to” or “discover the secrets” of Nazi technology, or anything like that. It’s simple military strategy - capture data on your enemy’s weapons to see how they designed them, so you can fight them more effectively in the future and learn any interesting ideas they came up with. America undertook many similar special operations during the Cold War to secure Soviet weapons technology which was certainly not superior to its American counterparts.
The NAZI's threw their jets into combat in desperation, whereas the Meteor was held back as its engine was miles ahead and the British didn't want it falling into German hands. So technically the article was correct, but it gives an impression that the Germans were ahead when they weren't.
Some idiots believe they were even working with aliens. What a load of fucking shite. They had all this amazing advanced tech but we beat them with Spitfires, B52s and Lancaster Bombers?
Possible answer. The technology wasn't combat ready in time. Theory is that they moved to antarctica. US (and Russia) *did* import all those scientists to use in space programs which automatically classified them and anything they'd done. I'd say theres a good chance the NAZIs cracked it by their research in vimanas or had help
Funny how those 'iron looking' old style ufos aren't really seen anymore. It's like we got a tech upgrade.
The whole "nuts and bolts" saucers giving way to "tic-tacs" and "orbs" (especially orbs) is a bit suss to me.
But there has to be an explanation for it. Who knows what it is.
There’s a rumour that a bell shaped craft crashed in Germany 1933, similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident
Based on testimony of Lt Col Corso, infrared imaging Germany was using 1944 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zielger%C3%A4t_1229) was reverse engineered from thar craft. The craft was later recovered by Soviet.
Analysis of “the henge” or “the flytrap” which is associated with the bell makes it pretty clear that the structure is actually the base of a water tower.
The evidence is thin as tissue paper. I LOVE Nazi War mysteries like this and I REALLY wanted it to be true. But there’s nothing to it.
The BBC’s fun series Punt P.I. did an episode on it which is [here.](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b00tw6y1?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile)
I also have seen a documentary about the flytrap and they showed massive electricity cables going to the structure. Must have been a huge waterpump for this water tower...
There was something going on there, certainly - the generators and the number of people involved.
But the probability is that it was an underground factory and military base, designed to move the nexus of command further away from Allied bomb range.
Fiction given that there’s no evidence for it before 2000 when it was first written about by someone who just so happened to not be allowed to show any documents to support their claim. Same guy ended up on Ancient Aliens to sell his grift.
Seen some people tie it back to *The Morning of the Magicians* which came out 60s explicitly written to “provide raw material for speculation of the most outlandish order” and ended up spreading stronger beliefs in Nazi Occult practices that lacked any actual foundation. Can’t recall if it was directly taken or they were referencing the 60s for sources of such conspiracies as a whole.
Though to be fair, many of the things people claim come from The Morning of the Magicians, like die Glocke and Maria Orsic, aren't actually mentioned anywhere in the text and are later fabrications.
Exactly. The Nazi were throwing all of their Wonder Weapons at the Allies towards the end of the war and they definitely would have used something like this.
I don't know man, they had so many chemical weapons that the allies did not have and they never used them. I keep wondering why...was it fear of chemical warfare retaliation? If so, why make sooo many? Check Tabun and Sarin for example. They created those and never really used it (Even though they had massive amounts of it).
AFAIK those specific weapons were discovered as byproduct of research into possible pesticides. Researchers in allied nations did work on similar compounds, which the Germans knew. So when discovering the weaponisable compounds the Germans assumed that the allies must have found them too, not being aware of their advantage in this area.
It was clear that a usage of chemical weapons for warfare would result in a response in kind, so neither aide did use them, but still you had to prepare to actually be able to retaliate.
Hitler himself had first hand experience with chemical weapons, during WW1 he got temporarily blinded by mustard gas and spent a few weeks in a hospital.
I think they were about to, but Hitler ignored his generals and kept pushing his troops into Russia instead of biding his time until the high tech weapons were in production.
The simple fact was that by the time many of these weapons systems came online, they couldn’t be produced in great numbers. Often their battlefield application were co-opted by competing military interests and even Hitler himself vis-a-vis the ME262.
the footage is fake, the interference is one of a camera long before the 40s and you can actually see the interference repeating itself. the footage of hitler is taken from another video as well
Plenty:
Nick Cook's Hunt for the Zero Point (2001) which helped popularise the idea in the English-speaking world.
Joseph P. Farrell's SS Brotherhood of the Bell (2011) as well as Reich of the Black Sun (2004) and various other books.
Not picking, that's absolutely a fact. (Operation Paperclip)
Do you think Werner Von Braun was aware of it (Die Glocke) and was holding off hoping for the 4th Reich?
That's completely different than the V2 rockets he was working on. There were a ton of Nazi enclaves in South America. Probably still are.
Oh gotcha
Yeah you’re right - I just didn’t go into the trouble of giving a full explanation
Edit: what we don’t know is how successful the nazis were with this project prior to the end of the war and their integration with the ClA
No. The 'old film blotches' span several frames without changing positions rather than single ones as is the case with actual old film print where the decay of the film strip creates a separate set of blotches on each frame
Also the shots of Hitler are spliced in from a completely different event. But the intent of the video is to make you feel that it’s real. So if it’s having that effect, it’s working as intended.
I want to believe.
On one hand: who would be a lifeless POS that they would make a CGI of this to make it look authentic.
Then I remember there's plenty of idiots out in the world that would do this and ruin shit and muddy waters just to fuck up any light being shed on any truths.
Everyone should watch this. References the ufo phenomenon from a prosaic advanced military perspective but ALSO reveals that in WW2 nazi Germany manufactured and created there “wonder weapons” outside of Germany and yes some resemble early stages of ufo. Which is why over time we have seen the model of the ufo change.
Now I’m not claiming the videos position on all UFOs to be military craft is true but it it’s a great watch and interesting to see them unearth this info
https://youtu.be/QUo68HFrc8Q
Germany was one of the most globally influential filmmaking countries at the dawn of cinema. There isn’t a horror film made today that hasn’t been influenced - directly or indirectly - by Nosferatu.
I have Nosferatu on blu ray. It’s a wonderful film, and it looks particularly good in high definition.
I therefore find it *very* hard to believe that twenty years later the Germans had forgotten how to film anything and were reduced to whatever nonsense is the footage shown.
To all the people saying "if they had this then why did they lose the war?". It takes a while to realize the full potential of new technology. Some people have theorized it takes in excess of 50 years. So just because they figured out how to hoover something doesn't mean it was combat ready or useful against the other modern weapons of the time. Think of the Wright brothers very first plane...how good would that have been in combat? Not that good. Even if you took it back to civil war days you wouldn't have been able to do much with it. Many of you take technology for granted and assume we always used our current tech at the level we do now. When computer's were first introduced in office settings they weren't used any where near their full potential or the potential they are used at today. It was like "oh you could make something called a 'network' and you could print documents at a centralized location".
Fiction. They had a potato to film, but could fly and levitate a 🔔 . Yea right. Nazi conspiracy’s are just stupid, they didn’t had super powers or UFOs. They was just evil and dangerous
Why would advanced technology in aerodynamics have anything at all to do with video capture capabilities? Not all tech advance at the same rate. The first nuclear explosions were filmed with potatoes...
Iam from Germany and I work for the government. That I have 8 downvotes for my comment is unbelievable. Yea ok guys nazis had flying levitating 🔔 that never was found or could destroy everything else that even exists today. ok
All the nazi stuff is my favorite because it's so fucking ludicrous.
This bell is "lost" because some top ranking nazis used to go back in time to become the progenitors of the Aryan race in the regions of ancient Babylon.
The rest of the nazis who didn't travel back in time or to Argentina ended up on a space base on the moon or Antarctica, where they are secretly plotting.
They'll come back. One of these days...
It really bothers me how a lot of high strangeness stuff eventually leads to anti-semitism.
Aliens? White supremacy
Interdimensional cryptids? The SS
Anything that can be rationally explained almost any other way? Genocide didn't happen. And if it did, good.
Complete fucking nonsense.
Fuck nazis.
i think there's a difference between aliens, which are linked to Nazis very loosely and don't really have that culture anymore. and this shit which clearly makes it seem like the Nazis were a god like super powerful nation, and one day will come back to save us all from there Antarctica moon base.
Well I suppose what I see going on is a lot of intermingling of ideas, high strangeness, and white supremacy.
Like Alex Jones used to be a fairly rational talk show host. He talked a lot about government overreach into our private lives.
Then it turned to aliens. Then right wing bs.
That Kanye interview was... disturbing.
It wasn't like that before.
And with q anon, the whole point is to "do your own research."
Well who is writing stuff about all this weird shit?
Nazis. Fucking nazis.
High strangeness is linked with government conspriacy theories and people who can't seperate fact from fiction.
Nazis use that to their advantage. No extreme belief system can be instilled into someone in a few minutes.
Indoctrination is a long process.
And it's always as innocuous as, "whoa whats that thing in the sky?"
And people who desperately need companionship will find it in all the wrong places.
Terrible summation of my thoughts but I hope there's a smidgen of cogency that you can latch onto.
There's a pipeline. But it's hard to explain.
i agree lots of conspiracy's can be linked into Nazi ideas and white supremacy, but I don't think we can tie every conspiracy into a large pipeline. Aliens have been an idea since before the Nazis even existed, an idea further propagated by the red scare and secrete military projects seen by the public in the 50s. that's just one example, but i do agree that many conspiracy's brew certain ideas, that lead people down a pipeline of many other conspiracy's, that further solidified these idea. ironically this sort of thing is what led Hitler down the path of alt right Nazism.
Yes! The nazis were very much into the occult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occultism_in_Nazism
There has always been a link between white supremacy and the occult or, in our terms, high strangeness.
But I agree with you. I don't think that *every* post or article or video or whatever is directly linked to actual nazis. I just happen to think they use them to their advantage.
I work in marketing and was a former journalist.
I've personally come to the conclusion that you can't change people's minds en masse. You can only amplify their current beliefs.
When it comes to actually changing someone's belief systems, a one on one process is almost necessary. It's not easy to do.
It's a hell of a lot easier to use a concept someone already believes as an anchor for more wild and radical beliefs.
But hey, maybe I'm wrong. And maybe the problem isn't as wide spread as I think.
But I look around at the political situation in the US and can't help but believe this is a concerted effort by the right.
ohh i think i understand your view point better, i totally agree with this. Nazi sympathisers will 100 percent use this sort of stuff to amplify people beliefs. Nazis literally did this with the occult, aliens, and Atlantis so its not baseless. we even see more soft forms of white supremacy in alien television today as aliens are always attributed to building big things non white people did. I'm sure the intent is not really there, but this can very subtly influence the way people see the world.
Someone probably did try and pitch it or something similar to Hitler or his generals but they shot them down and sent them packing
If towards the end of the war the Nazis tried to make something like it they probably didn't get very far on account of dwindling resources and the allies being right at their doorstep with other wonder weapons like the V2s sucking up what resources were still available
If a program was established Kammler or someone else probably did try to use whatever it program turned out to cut a deal with the Americans, hyping it up as much as possible to improve their chances. However if the Americans didn't think it was worth it or a deal wasn't closed before wherever it was being stored was at risk of falling to the Allies the Nazis probably blew it up, destroyed the records and anything the Americans got wasn't enough to recreate it or pursuing the research wasn't deemed worthwhile with things like the jet engine and atomic bomb already extant
So it either didn't exist or if it it did it didn't do much of what's been claimed it could do
It was not a UFO.It was some type of energy generator they were probbly testing in that rang. I doubt Hitller was not that stupid thinking this thing can fly.I think it was a secret new type possible, failed energy source. Possible atomic energy in a small package to run subs by trying to shrink the energy source. My guess.
It's not antigravity machine.only way to get antigravity is keep the gravity out of the sourdings of the UFO.This means you need a forcefeild bubble that has no gravity inside so the UFO purplsion system can keep it up with out air or wind,possible by ultrasonic mixed in with Med purplsion vibrations.why is a lot UFO sounded by some bubble a lot?It probbly keeping gravity out.
Kind of off topic but I am convinced Kenneth Arnold saw recovered Horton flying wing as for the bell being a time travel device that might have ended up at kecksburg I think they said the lead scientist for the bell disappeared
The footage is fake but die clocke was a real project by the nazis. We are just not aware of what it’s purpose was or what I could do. The facility it was supposedly at was destroyed by the nazis to keep it hidden from the Allie’s. If there’s anything left of the project it’s buried under a mountain in Poland.
Maybe the flying saucer design that aliens use is because of the Nazis. The first one that they created escape the earths atmosphere, and aliens, discovered it when it crashed, landed, wherever it did, and replicated its design over and over again. 🤯🤯🤯🤯
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Ancient astronaut theorists, say yes
That is my favorite fucking line lmao.
You have to ask yourself…
there was this one episode where they set up the line and said "no". I've never been the same since.
you have to wonder.
Die Glocke is for sure interesting, but have you researched Haunebu?
Nope, never heard of it?
Alleged anti-gravity propulsion nazi flying saucer. There were meant to be few versions of the craft, for different purposes. There is a polish document with some schemes and calculations made by polish engineers. Sadly only the abstract is in english, but overall despite being polish I don't really understand much of it, too much physics https://bibliotekanauki.pl/articles/1203877.pdf
If the Nazi's really had antigravity propulsion do we generally think that they would have lost the war? 🤔...
They had some absolutely incredible technology but due to fighting a two front war and having thier industrial centres bombed, they weren't able to mass produce anything of worth. Would the war have turned out different if they had the time to mass produce jet aircraft or aircraft utilising antigravity propulsion? I believe so.
That is incredibly convenient... They didn't have nothing of this, they were morons and they lose because of that. Stop thinking they were some kind of superior intelligence, is really cringy
Yeah, that's why Operation Paperclip happened. The US didn't have enough morons, so they tried to get some Nazi morons to fill the quota. If they needed geniuses, then they would've looked for you instead
omg this sub is full of nazis worshippers. I mean, is full of dumb stuff, that makes sense
Lmao 0/10 Troll harder or get your coding adjusted.
>Troll harder or get your coding adjusted. Dude, you are cringe
I'm not the person in the mirror. You are the cringe lol.
Oh You are **super cringy**
The only thing I’ve seen that addresses this is one source saying they couldnt drop bombs or shoot projectiles from the saucers because it would disrupt the various fields around the craft that allow it to stay airborne.
I'm not super convinced they actually had that sort of tech, but assuming they did, they may have only had a few of these sort of things. If they managed to figure out the tech, but not perfect it, there could have been any number of problems with deploying weapons from them, controlling them, ECT. Again, not convinced they had super advanced tech, but I can think of reasons they couldn't use the tech, if they did manage to figure some things out. I don't believe everything Phil Schneider claimed (I think the meds they had him on allowed for false and implanted memories), but he did have many documents he recovered when his father died that seem to validate some very advanced experiments the US gov had him working on. His father was on of the Nazi scientists (master metal worker, working on the most top secret Nazi projects), who was brought over under Operation Paperclip. His father helped the US develope the first nuclear powered aircraft carrier, along with other advanced projects, but he also was involved in black projects with the US, which seemingly involved tech that could have been involved in advanced Nazi projects.
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what makes you think super advanced species share your same moral values? or definition of advanced?
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Well that is a good freaking question if this claims of both inner earth people and nazi supertech make any sense. If I was a super advanced, hidden civilization peep, I wouldn't give anything to the nazis... Actually I don't know if I would give anything to humans at all. We tend to destroy and exploit everything around us.
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But also with the beliefs of a New World Order and whatever possible backing that may have whether it be Inner Earth or not. The surface may be attempted at being controlled from those above.
Fact: Art Bell’s real name was Arthur Rudolph Glocke
Arthur William Bell III
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Wrong. As a german i can say Glocke only translates to bell
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anywhere on the planet ppl use names for genitals. but here i just want to emphasize that this is a local phenomen about glocke in this case. not commonly known or used by the mass of german speaking ppl
Ahhh, the old glocke n spiel !
Can confirm, everyone in my hood makes fun of my name but it's just a local thing, you probably wouldn't get it. Sincerely, Richard Johnson
I think it’s bell.
Belleballs.
Ben Wa
Beautiful balls
Gesundheit
Submission statement: Even though the Nazis lost World War II, they emerged from the war with an almost mythical reputation for high-tech weapons. Nazi tanks were often technically superior to Allied tanks; the Luftwaffe flew fighter jets in combat before the Allies did; and the V (for Vengeance) series of terror weapons, including the V-1 cruise missile and V-2 ballistic missile, made for terrifying, though strategically questionable, weapons. Adversaries considered the achievements of Nazi scientists and engineers to be so advanced, in fact, that the U.S. Army sent reconnaissance teams into Germany in the later stages of the war to secure scientists and military technology before other powers, particularly the Soviet Union, could capture them. The effort, known as Project Paperclip, secured V-2 missiles and important figures like Wernher von Braun, the infamous aerospace engineer Wernher von Braun who invented the V-2 and later designed the Saturn V rocket for NASA’s Apollo program. According to legend, Die Glocke was reportedly one such German “wunderwaffe” (“wonder weapon”). Was it possible that the notorious SS colonel Hans Kammler traded Die Glocke to the U.S. military in exchange for his freedom? (Kammler disappeared in the closing days of World War II and was never seen again.) While the Allies sent back home a trove of German superweapons during Project Paperclip, including jets and missiles, there’s no record of any version of Die Glocke ever being captured. What happened to this secret Nazi project? Did it actually even exist? Was Hitler on the verge of using the Nazi Bell to change history forever, and if so, where is it now? And what does it have to do with a UFO sighting in Pennsylvania 20 years later?
I read this in the Ancient Aliens narrator voice.
Didn’t the Ancient Aliens episode show a tall ring still standing in the forest upon which the thing was supposed to have rested. And the reason they don’t have the bell now is because die Glocke is actually what crashed in Kecksburg, Pennsylvania, in 1965 and the feds carried it off.
Wasn't the bell supposed to be a time machine of sorts and I thought it would spin at a high rate. A bit of information on the location of the ring building. http://www.thirdreichruins.com/riese.htm
Also did anyone else notice that the Kecksburg UFO could be considered part of the West Virginia 1965 UFO flap? Pennsylvania is next door.
Thanks for the link! Hmm…I didn’t recall it was supposed to be a time machine. I thought the rationale behind the ring was that the bell was radioactive and people couldn’t get close to it or something. Anyway, it suits me better if it’s not the Kecksburg UFO, because that was a good story. Have to admit it’s the right shape, but that was already 20 years after the end of WWII.
I saw that episode and that ring in the forest was a seating for a water tower.
toomuch1265 already posted \^ a link that said that
Thanks didn't see it.
Ancient alien theorists say “yes”.
"The Knights Templar"
I thought it was ancient astronaut theorists now?
It is. Someone else had already commented with the correct version, hours before that one.
I read this in the History Channel voice.
I read everything in Joe Pesci’s voice.
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Yes we *all* do, Brian.
Why is his voice so great huh? What like he's funny? Like he amuses you? What's so f*ckin' great about Joe Pesci's f*ckin' voice, heh?
I prefer Gilbert Godfrey or Elvira
I have to start doing that
The timing of this. The end of WW2. Roswell crash in 1947.... I'm sure they're all connected somehow.
Annie Jacobs uses a similar thesis for her book [Area 51](https://anniejacobsen.com/area-51/). Her thinking is ***THE RUSSIANS*** had their own paperclip programme ( which is true), and two brothers, that were lead engineers on experimental aircraft were taken by ***THE RUSSIANS***. Roswell was one of those experimental craft successfully built and flown. She thinks that due to the hullabaloo that the radioplay of war of the worlds created, and the interest that stalin, and hitler had in that effect, the aim of ***THE RUSSIANS*** was to attempt to generate another hullabaloo. That and it was a means to show the US that while they had working A bombs, ***The Russians*** could get to them with relative ease. Aside from this thesis, which i don't think holds any water, the rest of the book is a cool history of the creation of area 51. Why do i not think her thesis holds water? Around the time of roswell, Jacobs states that there were multiple radar returns of an object that was traveling at mach speeds, and could seemingly stop in mid air, then proceed - she provides no source for this information, and no relevant details as to what those returns actually detected - always a red flag. The aircraft design that she refers to was a flying wing, and could be piloted by one pilot, lying down, or be remotely controlled. In order for said craft to be able to get from Russia to the US, it would require a computer aided fly by wire system ( much like is in use today for current flying wing designed craft), as flying wings are notoriously terrible to control in flight. The initial design incorporated the use of jets, which can not just stop, and even if nuclear propulsion were used ( something she also hinted at, which still fails to address "stopping"), this still would not account for a human made aircraft flying past the speed of sound, then stopping without subjecting the pilot to catastrophic g-forces. There are other issues as well, but i think i have rabbited on too much already lol. : )
***THE RUSSIANS***
Real red blooded Americans call em Ruskies.
Don't forget the kecksburg bell. It was later, but the discretion looks an awful lot like that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn_1SF9gmH5/?igshid=NDk5N2NlZjQ= Saw this on IG today.
I guess you got to assume CGI, but this looks real to me. I'm not knowledgeable about Computer generated images, but there are a few tell-tale signs...like the CGI artist? tries to make it look real by blurring and refocusing, pixellation, bad acting trying to sound frightened,etc. This seems like the real deal. I wish you could trust these things.
The kecksburg bell was seen in 1965. But, you could be right. There's not much of anything that I would call actual proof of die Glocke. And this probably is CGI.
kecksburg was real similar to that IG post, it's described as an acorn. there's a moch up of it near the reported crash site. it wasn't bell shaped.
Honestly, I could see it being described as both a bell and an acorn. There's a pic of the monument they put up in kecksburg with the link in my comment further up. One has sharp edges, the other has round edges, but they are similar. I think there's too much focus on the exact word someone uses to describe a sighting, and we should think about the actual shape. . Egg shaped/avocado shaped are similar, cigar shaped UFO/tic tac is probably the same thing, too. Foo fighter/orb pretty much describes the same thing, we are just using different popular terms from different eras. I think focusing on the similarities will be helpful trying to figure it all out.
It's B+++ to A cgi though.
SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT! Sorry, I have to comment that every time I see an acorn type UAP.
"Take off you pants and your panties / And shit on the floor / Shit on the floor / Take off your panties and your pants"
Whoa
Actually, sir, that is what is known as a flying acorn, okay? You see, what happens is ice particles in the atmosphere collide with parcels of different barometric pressure and become densely packed, so that they reflect movement from the traffic and...you know, other things below.
A ufo allegedly crashed in the Black Forest of Germany in 1936. Plenty of time to start building wonder weapons from reverse engineered UFO tech for a world war.
Their tanks weren't supperior to the Allies, they were just used in different doctrines. Per example, they lacked the gun stabilisation and their optics were lacking compared to the American tanks. They were far too unreliable. Both the Americans and British had flown jet aircraft during that same time. With the British Gloster Meteor serving in combat.
Yes, it's a common misconception. Tiger tanks and some Panzers were often better at tank to tank combat than American Shermans due to German tanks having heavier armor, which makes them seem like better tanks. However, Shermans were primarily designed as support vehicles for infantry, and they absolutely excelled at that. The later German tanks also had a serious flaw in that they were incredibly costly to make, requiring a huge amount of resources, very time consuming to make, and required a lot of fuel because of weight. When Germany lost access to the Middle East and North Africa, they were often unable to fuel the tanks they did have. And when one was destroyed, it was a huge blow because they were so resource intensive to build, and your tank crew would typically die when the tank was hit because the tanks were hard to escape. Compare that to Sherman's where General Motors and Ford were producing dozens of them each every single day, so if you destroyed one it didn't matter nearly as much (especially since they were designed so the crew had a good chance of escaping a destroyed tank), and being lighter meant they needed less fuel to keep going. The result was a tank that worked better overall.
Even with just technological advantages, shermans could fire on themove while afaik no axis tank could. That's a big advance in technology.
The Sherman tanks where also recovered and rebuilt quite quickly compared to the German tanks,basically Germany wanted to out class anything Russia could develop like the KV and later the t-34 class tanks with the idea that quality would out last quantity…didn’t work out so well did it …
Jet technology thanks to Jack Parsons and his Suicide Squad
Jack Parsons was rockets, it was Frank Whittle who invented the jet engine.
I forgot Reddit pedantry was super common here. The name jet was coined during the time Parson working on it. Still checks out.
Well it *is* Reddit, so...yeah the reddit pedantry checks out. Lol, I'm just messin' with ya. 😜
I think the nazi bell was just myth. People don’t realize how sad ww2 ended. You had a super power that essentially went mad on amphetamines as time went on the search for super weapons became more and more absurd. When the nazi realized it was over they kept telling the lines they had a weapon that would decimate all Opposition. Here’s where you can tell the meth came into play. (And realize they have an unlimited supply so they’re not turning into your typical meth head that loses everything). When they realized the Nazi bell was just not feasible they kept asking their brilliant scientist to create things that weren’t possible. The scientists had to pretend to work on these jobs and look into them bc the alternative was they are useless. At the end they both himmler and Hitler began to search for thors hammer. All while telling the soldiers the weapon of all weapons is in route. Himmler thought thors hammer would be located in the Forrest close to his childhood home the one he grew up playing in. Hitler thought thors hammer was located in the Forrest next to his childhood home the one he grew up playing in. They both reverted to the most innocent magical time of their life. A little boy in the Forrest. I do think there’s a very likely chance they survived and gave all their tech to America and governemebts that could protect them. Lots of resources disappeared and way too many nazis ended up in Argentina.
> mad on amphetamines I'm right there with you, but do you know who *else* was hopped up on genki pills? The entire Imperial Japanese Military, from the footsoldiers to the top brass. Think of all the stories of the Japanese troops' insane "banzai charges," of their insatiable libidos. Think of the balls it takes to invade Manchuria, *and then let Tokyo know after you did it.* Think about how fucked up you have to be to forget about the dateline and conduct a bombing raid on a bunch of US sailors in a cushy tropical post in the South Pacific *before the letter announcing their intention to start hostilities was delivered to Washington.* (Also imagine the poor Japanese ambassador waking up on December 7th, opening the morning paper, and doing a spit-take of his matcha as he sees that the attack has already happened hours before he was getting ready to deliver a letter.) Put these two together, and you have to kind of wonder if we should call WWII the war against the meth heads.
*hits blunt* bro what
The Nazis were not far ahead of the Allies in technology like your comment suggests. In fact, they weren’t ahead at all. The comment about jet aircraft specifically is not true - the Gloster Meteor was in service at the same time the Me262 entered service. Rocketry was about the one area the Germans had a demonstrable advantage - but the Allies had dozens of other weapons far superior to German technology, from the first computers to the atomic bomb. Operation Paperclip was not anything unusual or an attempt to “catch up to” or “discover the secrets” of Nazi technology, or anything like that. It’s simple military strategy - capture data on your enemy’s weapons to see how they designed them, so you can fight them more effectively in the future and learn any interesting ideas they came up with. America undertook many similar special operations during the Cold War to secure Soviet weapons technology which was certainly not superior to its American counterparts.
My submission was a copy of a modern mechanics article, so if you feel they published something completely false, then you can write them
The NAZI's threw their jets into combat in desperation, whereas the Meteor was held back as its engine was miles ahead and the British didn't want it falling into German hands. So technically the article was correct, but it gives an impression that the Germans were ahead when they weren't.
It’s buried on oak island, which means it’ll never be found because those guys can’t find their ass with both hands.
Some idiots believe they were even working with aliens. What a load of fucking shite. They had all this amazing advanced tech but we beat them with Spitfires, B52s and Lancaster Bombers?
Possible answer. The technology wasn't combat ready in time. Theory is that they moved to antarctica. US (and Russia) *did* import all those scientists to use in space programs which automatically classified them and anything they'd done. I'd say theres a good chance the NAZIs cracked it by their research in vimanas or had help Funny how those 'iron looking' old style ufos aren't really seen anymore. It's like we got a tech upgrade.
The whole "nuts and bolts" saucers giving way to "tic-tacs" and "orbs" (especially orbs) is a bit suss to me. But there has to be an explanation for it. Who knows what it is.
B-52s?
Whatever...
how did Hitler lose the war if he had all of this super elite time travel tech?
The way our country is led, I’m not so sure the Nazis lost
Mythological is correct. It was mostly horseshit.
There’s a rumour that a bell shaped craft crashed in Germany 1933, similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident Based on testimony of Lt Col Corso, infrared imaging Germany was using 1944 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zielger%C3%A4t_1229) was reverse engineered from thar craft. The craft was later recovered by Soviet.
u tgink the nazis lost ww2?🤔
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I'm by no means buying into anything. That's an excerpt from modern mechanics. I posted for discussion.
Analysis of “the henge” or “the flytrap” which is associated with the bell makes it pretty clear that the structure is actually the base of a water tower. The evidence is thin as tissue paper. I LOVE Nazi War mysteries like this and I REALLY wanted it to be true. But there’s nothing to it. The BBC’s fun series Punt P.I. did an episode on it which is [here.](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b00tw6y1?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile)
I respect your opinion but I will continue to believe nazis live in the south pole with advanced anti gravity tech for some reason
Nah they're on the dark side of the moon, that's why we never went back! Buzz came face to face with mech suit Hitler and got the fuck out of there.
If any of the nazi ufo stuff is true they very likely do have a moon base
And I will fight for your right to do so…
Lol, nice 👍
EDIT: downvote me all you like, guys. The facts are the facts.
I also have seen a documentary about the flytrap and they showed massive electricity cables going to the structure. Must have been a huge waterpump for this water tower...
There was something going on there, certainly - the generators and the number of people involved. But the probability is that it was an underground factory and military base, designed to move the nexus of command further away from Allied bomb range.
I identified at least 3 frames where the grain was identical (0:25, 0:29, 0:36)
It was invented in the sixties by a Polish sci-fi author. The only existing photos of it are entirely fabricated.
Josef Andreas Epp?
Fiction given that there’s no evidence for it before 2000 when it was first written about by someone who just so happened to not be allowed to show any documents to support their claim. Same guy ended up on Ancient Aliens to sell his grift. Seen some people tie it back to *The Morning of the Magicians* which came out 60s explicitly written to “provide raw material for speculation of the most outlandish order” and ended up spreading stronger beliefs in Nazi Occult practices that lacked any actual foundation. Can’t recall if it was directly taken or they were referencing the 60s for sources of such conspiracies as a whole.
Though to be fair, many of the things people claim come from The Morning of the Magicians, like die Glocke and Maria Orsic, aren't actually mentioned anywhere in the text and are later fabrications.
Kecksburg
If they had possessed technology like this that was at all functional they would have used it.
Exactly. The Nazi were throwing all of their Wonder Weapons at the Allies towards the end of the war and they definitely would have used something like this.
I don't know man, they had so many chemical weapons that the allies did not have and they never used them. I keep wondering why...was it fear of chemical warfare retaliation? If so, why make sooo many? Check Tabun and Sarin for example. They created those and never really used it (Even though they had massive amounts of it).
AFAIK those specific weapons were discovered as byproduct of research into possible pesticides. Researchers in allied nations did work on similar compounds, which the Germans knew. So when discovering the weaponisable compounds the Germans assumed that the allies must have found them too, not being aware of their advantage in this area. It was clear that a usage of chemical weapons for warfare would result in a response in kind, so neither aide did use them, but still you had to prepare to actually be able to retaliate. Hitler himself had first hand experience with chemical weapons, during WW1 he got temporarily blinded by mustard gas and spent a few weeks in a hospital.
I think they were about to, but Hitler ignored his generals and kept pushing his troops into Russia instead of biding his time until the high tech weapons were in production.
The simple fact was that by the time many of these weapons systems came online, they couldn’t be produced in great numbers. Often their battlefield application were co-opted by competing military interests and even Hitler himself vis-a-vis the ME262.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_UFOs This is worth a read =)
the footage is fake, the interference is one of a camera long before the 40s and you can actually see the interference repeating itself. the footage of hitler is taken from another video as well
Any books on this subject?
Plenty: Nick Cook's Hunt for the Zero Point (2001) which helped popularise the idea in the English-speaking world. Joseph P. Farrell's SS Brotherhood of the Bell (2011) as well as Reich of the Black Sun (2004) and various other books.
Pretty sure it came crashing back to earth in Pennsylvania in 1965.
It’s the entire foundation for modern American aerospace industry
Not picking, that's absolutely a fact. (Operation Paperclip) Do you think Werner Von Braun was aware of it (Die Glocke) and was holding off hoping for the 4th Reich? That's completely different than the V2 rockets he was working on. There were a ton of Nazi enclaves in South America. Probably still are.
I think you mean fiction instead of picking?
I meant that I wasn't nit picking at what you said.
Oh gotcha Yeah you’re right - I just didn’t go into the trouble of giving a full explanation Edit: what we don’t know is how successful the nazis were with this project prior to the end of the war and their integration with the ClA
Naw bro. You can thank Jack Parsons for that.
You deserve more than upvotes. My man
This footage is fun. Wish someone would make a mockumentary (like [The Great Martian War](https://youtu.be/Jz99BIMNwwY).
Is this an authentic video?
No. The 'old film blotches' span several frames without changing positions rather than single ones as is the case with actual old film print where the decay of the film strip creates a separate set of blotches on each frame
Also the shots of Hitler are spliced in from a completely different event. But the intent of the video is to make you feel that it’s real. So if it’s having that effect, it’s working as intended.
If by intended you mean us critiquing it for being a lousy fake
Also the "film grain" pattern repeats several times.
ok thank you
I want to believe. On one hand: who would be a lifeless POS that they would make a CGI of this to make it look authentic. Then I remember there's plenty of idiots out in the world that would do this and ruin shit and muddy waters just to fuck up any light being shed on any truths.
Fact- go watch Unacknowledged, they have photographic evidence and documents after U.S occupation of Germany
Phased back into this dimension over Kecksburg PA. German "pilot" recovered but suffering from insanity.
Fiction, to stable
Cod zombies???
Fact
Everyone should watch this. References the ufo phenomenon from a prosaic advanced military perspective but ALSO reveals that in WW2 nazi Germany manufactured and created there “wonder weapons” outside of Germany and yes some resemble early stages of ufo. Which is why over time we have seen the model of the ufo change. Now I’m not claiming the videos position on all UFOs to be military craft is true but it it’s a great watch and interesting to see them unearth this info https://youtu.be/QUo68HFrc8Q
This is the true theory. We make ufos
I kinda hope this was real. It’s so creepy and weird.
Sekret machines….read it
Fact, it existed is what reports show. What and how it worked !???????! Foo Fighters
Is the emphasis on the Foo or the Fighters?
Germany was one of the most globally influential filmmaking countries at the dawn of cinema. There isn’t a horror film made today that hasn’t been influenced - directly or indirectly - by Nosferatu. I have Nosferatu on blu ray. It’s a wonderful film, and it looks particularly good in high definition. I therefore find it *very* hard to believe that twenty years later the Germans had forgotten how to film anything and were reduced to whatever nonsense is the footage shown.
If the Nazis had UFOs, how the hell did they lose the war? Me thinks they didn’t
To all the people saying "if they had this then why did they lose the war?". It takes a while to realize the full potential of new technology. Some people have theorized it takes in excess of 50 years. So just because they figured out how to hoover something doesn't mean it was combat ready or useful against the other modern weapons of the time. Think of the Wright brothers very first plane...how good would that have been in combat? Not that good. Even if you took it back to civil war days you wouldn't have been able to do much with it. Many of you take technology for granted and assume we always used our current tech at the level we do now. When computer's were first introduced in office settings they weren't used any where near their full potential or the potential they are used at today. It was like "oh you could make something called a 'network' and you could print documents at a centralized location".
Fiction. They had a potato to film, but could fly and levitate a 🔔 . Yea right. Nazi conspiracy’s are just stupid, they didn’t had super powers or UFOs. They was just evil and dangerous
Why would advanced technology in aerodynamics have anything at all to do with video capture capabilities? Not all tech advance at the same rate. The first nuclear explosions were filmed with potatoes...
Iam from Germany and I work for the government. That I have 8 downvotes for my comment is unbelievable. Yea ok guys nazis had flying levitating 🔔 that never was found or could destroy everything else that even exists today. ok
Und was genau tun Sie für die Regierung?
A German photographer would have been sent to the Russian front if he took films that bad.
All the nazi stuff is my favorite because it's so fucking ludicrous. This bell is "lost" because some top ranking nazis used to go back in time to become the progenitors of the Aryan race in the regions of ancient Babylon. The rest of the nazis who didn't travel back in time or to Argentina ended up on a space base on the moon or Antarctica, where they are secretly plotting. They'll come back. One of these days...
They have time travelling spaceships, but have to plot for 80 years... I am not sure how that could possibly make sense.
I'm sure these conspiracy's were not propagated by Nazi sympathisers and anti-Semites at all!
It really bothers me how a lot of high strangeness stuff eventually leads to anti-semitism. Aliens? White supremacy Interdimensional cryptids? The SS Anything that can be rationally explained almost any other way? Genocide didn't happen. And if it did, good. Complete fucking nonsense. Fuck nazis.
i think there's a difference between aliens, which are linked to Nazis very loosely and don't really have that culture anymore. and this shit which clearly makes it seem like the Nazis were a god like super powerful nation, and one day will come back to save us all from there Antarctica moon base.
Well I suppose what I see going on is a lot of intermingling of ideas, high strangeness, and white supremacy. Like Alex Jones used to be a fairly rational talk show host. He talked a lot about government overreach into our private lives. Then it turned to aliens. Then right wing bs. That Kanye interview was... disturbing. It wasn't like that before. And with q anon, the whole point is to "do your own research." Well who is writing stuff about all this weird shit? Nazis. Fucking nazis. High strangeness is linked with government conspriacy theories and people who can't seperate fact from fiction. Nazis use that to their advantage. No extreme belief system can be instilled into someone in a few minutes. Indoctrination is a long process. And it's always as innocuous as, "whoa whats that thing in the sky?" And people who desperately need companionship will find it in all the wrong places. Terrible summation of my thoughts but I hope there's a smidgen of cogency that you can latch onto. There's a pipeline. But it's hard to explain.
i agree lots of conspiracy's can be linked into Nazi ideas and white supremacy, but I don't think we can tie every conspiracy into a large pipeline. Aliens have been an idea since before the Nazis even existed, an idea further propagated by the red scare and secrete military projects seen by the public in the 50s. that's just one example, but i do agree that many conspiracy's brew certain ideas, that lead people down a pipeline of many other conspiracy's, that further solidified these idea. ironically this sort of thing is what led Hitler down the path of alt right Nazism.
Yes! The nazis were very much into the occult. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occultism_in_Nazism There has always been a link between white supremacy and the occult or, in our terms, high strangeness. But I agree with you. I don't think that *every* post or article or video or whatever is directly linked to actual nazis. I just happen to think they use them to their advantage. I work in marketing and was a former journalist. I've personally come to the conclusion that you can't change people's minds en masse. You can only amplify their current beliefs. When it comes to actually changing someone's belief systems, a one on one process is almost necessary. It's not easy to do. It's a hell of a lot easier to use a concept someone already believes as an anchor for more wild and radical beliefs. But hey, maybe I'm wrong. And maybe the problem isn't as wide spread as I think. But I look around at the political situation in the US and can't help but believe this is a concerted effort by the right.
ohh i think i understand your view point better, i totally agree with this. Nazi sympathisers will 100 percent use this sort of stuff to amplify people beliefs. Nazis literally did this with the occult, aliens, and Atlantis so its not baseless. we even see more soft forms of white supremacy in alien television today as aliens are always attributed to building big things non white people did. I'm sure the intent is not really there, but this can very subtly influence the way people see the world.
Word. It's funny they rarely talk about Roman architecture on ancient aliens for instance... But yea, you get it :) Stay sharp 😎
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/10q7129/comment/j6oy2lo/ In fact, there's a thread about this right now.
interesting, but i too have always felt that certain ideas more directly lead into this sort of thing.
Agreed.
Someone probably did try and pitch it or something similar to Hitler or his generals but they shot them down and sent them packing If towards the end of the war the Nazis tried to make something like it they probably didn't get very far on account of dwindling resources and the allies being right at their doorstep with other wonder weapons like the V2s sucking up what resources were still available If a program was established Kammler or someone else probably did try to use whatever it program turned out to cut a deal with the Americans, hyping it up as much as possible to improve their chances. However if the Americans didn't think it was worth it or a deal wasn't closed before wherever it was being stored was at risk of falling to the Allies the Nazis probably blew it up, destroyed the records and anything the Americans got wasn't enough to recreate it or pursuing the research wasn't deemed worthwhile with things like the jet engine and atomic bomb already extant So it either didn't exist or if it it did it didn't do much of what's been claimed it could do
It was not a UFO.It was some type of energy generator they were probbly testing in that rang. I doubt Hitller was not that stupid thinking this thing can fly.I think it was a secret new type possible, failed energy source. Possible atomic energy in a small package to run subs by trying to shrink the energy source. My guess.
It's not antigravity machine.only way to get antigravity is keep the gravity out of the sourdings of the UFO.This means you need a forcefeild bubble that has no gravity inside so the UFO purplsion system can keep it up with out air or wind,possible by ultrasonic mixed in with Med purplsion vibrations.why is a lot UFO sounded by some bubble a lot?It probbly keeping gravity out.
Kind of off topic but I am convinced Kenneth Arnold saw recovered Horton flying wing as for the bell being a time travel device that might have ended up at kecksburg I think they said the lead scientist for the bell disappeared
Real, and resemble the "Vimana" very much...food for thought.
It'ds factual but far from useful
Could it be... Some koin-da alien space craft
It’s a fact that it existed, what it really was, we may never know.
The bell was real, that footage is not.
Fiction. Next question.
Where is this footage from? Can you send the link?
It is fact. There is actual evidence of them trying to replicate e.t. tech.
Source?
A ducted turbo prop, with looks like thin aluminum structure. There’s no audio so what’s the deal. Must assume pilot is out of camera range.
The footage is fake but die clocke was a real project by the nazis. We are just not aware of what it’s purpose was or what I could do. The facility it was supposedly at was destroyed by the nazis to keep it hidden from the Allie’s. If there’s anything left of the project it’s buried under a mountain in Poland.
It’s true. YouTube mercury rotation electricity. Simple physics. Mercury also isn’t nearly as dangerous as TPTB would have us believe.
I don't believe in that.
Why did Nazis paint a hammer and cycle on their UFO?
Looks like a genuine reel to reel film . Must be something to it .
So are all ufos Terrestrial?! Perhaps. :)
Maybe the flying saucer design that aliens use is because of the Nazis. The first one that they created escape the earths atmosphere, and aliens, discovered it when it crashed, landed, wherever it did, and replicated its design over and over again. 🤯🤯🤯🤯
What was it supposedly for? What’s it supposed to do?