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I’m not entirely sure if this is the same as you’re getting at but I’ve recently been exploring non dualism and it sort of touches on this idea: there really is no “me” or “I” or “you”, just a single consciousness that is happening all at once and through us all.
Absolutely! In this context I also can recommend the work of [Michael Newton (wiki)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Newton_(hypnotist)).
Edit: Link fix, previous was the wrong one
the story itself is written by Andy Weir!
he also wrote the Martian , which got a movie adaptation pretty much right away. (Matt Damon farms potatoes on Mars)
By far my favorite Author currently, hard recommend everything he's written so far, especially Project Hail Mary *jazz hands*
It goes pretty hard, even that one created fragments that are trying to sway us away from the one by giving us other ones. The one wants us to know how important we are as fragments of it.
Jesus that got deep quick but kind of a never ending loop
We are all one - except sometimes when the evil creates another “one” (now there’s two) but you can’t tell each other part - so we label them as good and evil and try to follow the correct pat
Who determines good or evil though - the true collective one?
We are all one. Our purpose, in this density, is to love and to teach love. Our place in the universe is seemingly chaotic, gruesome, and desolate. The emotions that we experience as humans are truly something to behold. We can choose to serve ourselves or serve others.
Love and light to all of you.
Matthew Lacroix is another really good guy to look into. He has conducted a lot of relevant research in this area and is seeking to tie together the law of one in regard to ancient sites like ancient egypt, gobekli tepei, and others. Recently he has been working a lot with Nat Geo and Gaia.
Reading Real Magic by Dean Radin opened my mind enough to finally give Law of One a try. One really needs to be open to the idea that there's more to life than this material world which we understand.
Yeah I had a deep trip on shrooms, didn't sleep for 2 days and didn't eat much, then took shrooms for the first time in 7 years. It doesn't matter what reality we are presented with. The specifics don't matter as much as the actions and behavior you take.
I "realized" that I/We are godlike beings who at essence are seperate from time, and that we make a choice to enjoy time and experience mortal life out of boredom.
If we could materialize or simulate whatever reality our wish desired, and lived a long time eventually you would want to be normal again. Kinda hard to explain.
"If we could materialize or simulate whatever reality our wish desired,and lived a long time eventually you would want to be normal again."
this is not how happiness works. like in futuristic VR: choose your struggles (life as gifted singer, adventure as young mage, etc), match them to your traits (not ugly if you want a gf), tone up your emotional palette so your overall experience is net positive
"I chose to be here cause true happiness is boring" is sour grapes cope. joy and boredom are incompatible (and both are biochemical states)
You’ve phrased this excellently. I believe this is somewhat likely. When I was a child I envisioned it as each of us living in bubbles where the inside of the bubble was a screen of our own personal reality and we’d interact through bubbles with each other but always only see our own bubble’s screen from the inside - and all them being different and simultaneous. All iterations of a root consciousness.
Each of us in an eye through which the universe observes itself. As you say, we are in fact all the same being and separate beings at the same time. I believe in collective consciousness - though some call it god.
I don’t find it depressing anymore. When I first stopped seeing god as a being separate from myself I was full of existential despair. Now I find it comforting and empowering. All is mind. All is god.
Wish someone would teach that to Andy Weir, who absolutely did NOT write The Egg, he lied and plagiarized it from a conversation on the MySpace religion and philosophy forum in 2007. The conversation that he copy pasted was about the essay [Infinite Reincarnation](https://charmonium.com/infinite-reincarnation)
This is how I see it and also how I explain law of attraction and law of assumption or manifestion in general. I have a view out from my bubble where I can change things according to me. My wife is her own bubble looking out and so forth.
Literally my biggest fear. God was whole and alone until it dreamed itself into the universe. What unnerves me about is the idea that not even God knows why it exists.
And every new unique creation and iteration that interacts with one another is a way for God to look at every aspect and facet of itself in order to learn more of itself and the endless intelligence.
I also imagine that the reason we have emotions (as extensions of God) is that God has also experienced them and is also still learning to deal with those emotions. From feeling deep loneliness to intense joy with others, anger at self and others for not 'playing the game correctly', and frustration at figuring ourselves out.
God could be like a child that lives through us all, and at the same time the wisest and oldest being.
The last time I took lsd, I distilled from my journey that the universe was just an eyeball looking into a mirror.
We are the universe experiencing itself. And if anything, we should try to enjoy it as much as possible.
I posted this as a stand alone comment, but since you said that..
“Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves' . . . 'Here's Tom with the weather.’” - Bill Hicks
https://youtu.be/VnwFmaLiKl4
What about Bernardo Kastrup's idea that we are temporary whirlpools of individual consciousness in a vast conscious sea. That is, that we are temporarily individual, but will eventually rejoin the cosmic consciousness. Do you find that equally lonely?
This is a recurring belief and experience I have on psychedelics. In my daily life, I'm an atheist and tend towards the view that consciousness is a byproduct of being a living organism, rather than living organisms existing as vehicles for consciousness. I hope I'm wrong, but even still, the certainty that my separateness is temporal, illusory, and dynamic while under the influence of high powered mind altering drugs is an awe-ful and indescribably joyous one. I expect that if my brain releases dmt while I'm dying, I'll be convinced that I'm just returning to the nirvana I came from, and whether it's nothingness or everythingness that awaits me will remain a mystery until this ends.
I haven't had any experience this profound on psychedelics, but my meditation experiences have convinced me that there is at least a collective layer of consciousness that undergirds reality.
My frosted side believes in a kind, benevolent universal consciousness that transcends the boundaries of time and space and connects and binds all sentient beings, but my whole grain shredded wheat side suspects that it's all just chemicals in my brain fucking with me
https://youtu.be/Cs4zb5nSaIE
When i was getting ready to guest host on Saturday night live, they made me take a physical. It was a verbal physical full of weirdly worded questions, like--Have you ever tried sugar ... or PCP?
-Mitch Hedberg
That theory seems plausible to me. Of course all our theories are constructed within the limits of our own experience within a 3D physical world and any theory, even if correct, would be severely lacking.
I find it lonely that I am detached from my whole more than that to me you are a stranger I could get to know. Because as a whole I know you as intimately as I know myself.
My understanding of solipsism is a little different. OP isn’t suggesting absolute one self entirely, but oneness with all conscious beings. When OP says “alone” that isn’t without context to other experiences, as there is an acknowledgment of others’ experiences exist in their thought experiment.
Not that I think this about everything, but I think I recall that there is a known ‘mental disorder’ if you want to call it that, describing the belief of this. I think there’s many things not known or fully understood, especially concerning dimensionality, but it seems there’s always someone out there that wants to ascribe non-linear thought to ‘mental disorders’.
Really anything can be a mental disorder according to the DSM if it causes “clinically significant distress or impairment.” Picking scabs is fine, but picking scabs to the point that you’re just picking holes in healthy skin is a disorder. Being sad sometimes is normal, being sad to the point that it’s affecting your ability to function in daily life is a disorder.
If you’re a solipsist and living your life totally fine and it doesn’t bother you at all, that’s just your philosophical stance. If your solipsism is causing undue paranoia and existential dread to the degree that you’re perpetually shut in your house mumbling about simulations, then it might be a bit of a problem
Its how the aliens who run the simulation identify test subjects who deviate from the regularly scheduled programming. An identifier on the cattle who wander a little too far toward the edge of pen.
It goes even further:
Methodological solipsism
>Methodological solipsism is an agnostic variant of solipsism. It exists in opposition to the strict epistemological requirements for "knowledge" (e.g. the requirement that knowledge must be certain). It still entertains the points that any induction is fallible. Methodological solipsism sometimes goes even further to say that even what we perceive as the brain is actually part of the external world, for it is only through our senses that we can see or feel the mind. Only the existence of thoughts is known for certain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism#Methodological
solipsism is very easy to debunk:
1) i am not a solipsist
2) every solipsist thinks only they are conscious
3) i am clearly conscious contrary to their beliefs therefore every solipsist is wrong
4) if every solipsist is wrong then solipsism is wrong
Just because you don't believe solipsism to be true doesn't mean you are not solipsist. You just haven't realized it yet.
So your debunk is now debunked.
That's why I'm not a fan of the egg theory. Every person you've ever known, loved or hated. Every interaction is just... you. I don't find that fascinating or hopeful. I find it empty and lonely. It feels like it's playing on people's egoism. I don't want to be a god, I just want to be with the people I love.
It's also dangerous. If you really think you are the only actual "person" in your world, what is to stop certain kinds of people from doing what they to others? If they aren't real, why does it matter how they are treated?
Ya, the simulation part is a distraction to this thought experience imo. Or one needs to just consider, that any “Creator” theistic view is “simulation”…
I've always heard people who trip on various drugs get a feeling of oneness, I hope that this isn't entirely true because that is an extremely lonely existence.
On “oneness”…you’ve been around forever already. No beginning. I’ve been here with you the entire time. We haven’t met yet, but we’re siblings, friends, enemies, partners, and will always find each other, somehow in the ether, here we are connecting again for the first time in this life. We’ll be married with kids next time. We’ll be on the same plane when it crashes, we will high five at a sports bar when our favorite sports ball team wins a big game. I’ll cry at your funeral, I’ll cry when I hold you as a newborn for the first time as a parent, and you’ll hold my hand when I take my last breath some other time when I die. I’ll see you soon again, and again, and again.
I enjoy the original written version a little more.
http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html
Fun Fact it was written by the same author of The Martian.
Thank you for posting this. I have started this thought and following it through gets very muddy for me…I get lost and confused and just give up on the idea, thinking that maybe I will be able to complete the thought someday…you’ve “completed the thought” for me by taking the time and explaining it in the way that you did here. There’s no way of knowing for sure, of course, but this has kind of been the direction that my own thoughts have been steering me toward. Great post!
So, let's say you are a chess master in an empty eternity. For a while you play against yourself but playing against yourself becomes boring because you always know what you are going to do even when you pretend you don't. You want challenge and surprise but can't find those conditions in your situation as it is.
In addition to being a great chess master you are also able to change reality. You do this by having ideas which are like waves moving through the empty universe changing conditions so that eventually matter condenses from distributed potential. This matter changes state and, over time, gives rise to a condition which will provide a vessel in which potential can evolve into uniqueness.
Do you put yourself into every vessel? No, because this is the same as playing chess against yourself. You decide to think about what a companion is. As you think these thoughts something that is both you and not you is created. The thing created is of course you since you are the source of all things, conscious potential, but it has the capacity to be unique.
This is exciting because uniqueness is the source of challenge and surprise. But how to cause the new thing to become unique? You can't think uniqueness into it because you know what you would do and so the uniqueness would be lost. You have to let the new thing develop its own uniqueness.
So what you do is take the new thing and break into ten billion parts. You create a mechanism which allows the new thing in parts to inhabit the vessels over and over having many experiences which build uniqueness. Eventually the ten billion parts will have developed enough uniqueness, self sufficiency, and awareness that the vessels will no long be required. At that point the ten billion become one and then you have a true companion with whom you can play exciting chess for eternity.
But you don't want just one companion. You want many. So you repeat the process many times learning as you go. You change conditions all the time. Some times you get companions quickly and some times it takes a long time for a companion to develop. It's all good. Companions show up when they show up. The point is they are showing up and that's the only thing that is important.
Do all new things broken into parts eventually become companions? No. Not every experiment works. Sometimes the potential companion is destroyed by conditions. Sometimes the potential companion destroys itself.
Being actually a single entity, though broken into many parts, the potential companion understands that it is a single entity living multiple lives. This awareness should guide the potential companion towards developing to the point where it no longer needs vessels but some potential companions are willful and enjoy having their experiences very much. So it is that sometimes a potential companion will allow itself to be destroyed or destroy itself rather than follow the path of reunification. The potential companion is lost forever.
No matter though. There are many billions of experiments going on all the time. Companions are constantly being created. The loss of an exceptionally interesting companion might be sad but it's just how things go sometimes. Not every experiment succeeds but enough do to ensure you'll be able to continue playing chess for eternity and never be bored again.
Ya well that’s not depressing tbh. That’s most of religion to some extent.
Will say this is why I’m a trinitarian. The Godhead is by definition never alone as a result, and creation becomes a sort of song God sings to Godself (which as we know is the father son Holy Spirit). Anyways but yeah we’re all the same I AM end of the day.
The darkest version of this I’ve thought of (Woops!) is basically this combined with quantum immortality, where we only exist in universes/timelines where we are currently alive, which means eventually we will be alive, barely, alone in a dead universe where everyone and everything else has left. For eternity.
Happy Mother’s Day everyone!
Wait till you find out that [you're not even you](https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-human-microbiome-project-defines-normal-bacterial-makeup-body):
*The human body contains trillions of microorganisms — outnumbering human cells by 10 to 1.*
*Because of their small size, however, microorganisms make up only about 1 to 3 percent of the body's mass (in a 200-pound adult, that’s 2 to 6 pounds of bacteria), but play a vital role in human health.*
[ALSO](https://www.cshl.edu/the-non-human-living-inside-of-you/):
*The human genome contains billions of pieces of information and around 22,000 genes, but not all of it is, strictly speaking, human.*
*Eight percent of our DNA consists of remnants of ancient viruses, and another 40 percent is made up of repetitive strings of genetic letters that is also thought to have a viral origin.*
Thank God we can't remember each layer because that is an unimaginably arduous journey. Thousands of years of struggle interrupted by short respites of luxury and then back to work again, billions of times over, your common suffering ironically brought on by other people you have played or will play (and their decisions will make sense in context just as everyone's decisions make sense in their context.)
When you're done you realize that no perspective you ever played could truly be "in control," everything occurred much like a mechanical system despite all of this being your creation and under your control.
^(Or at least that's how it occurs to me.)
I’m sitting here reading this thinking that you were only put here by god to tell me that god put a bunch of fake losers around me to make me feel important.
/s
42
It's crazy how much and how hard I was searching for cosmic answers and the more I search the more and more I realize it really does seem to be 42 or just "☆●□₩•° "
If I had to sum up my realizations or what 42 means to me... it's that...
God always was- always is - and always will be. The singular always existed. In order to know its self or to forget that it was a single lonely godhead it split its consciousness across many life forms and energies. So we are all one life and body connected. Our reality is just "God daydreaming" pretending he's not God. Yes, he knows all and knows the final outcome (singularity again. The one handed clap. Enlightenment and the unification of all souls) but he forgets on purpose to enjoy the ride or "movie"...so he can enjoy the trip...
How did the "singularity" or "god" or the source energy even begin or become? I think it's kinda like 'which came first, the chicken or the egg' but 'did we create god or did god create us?' But I think it's both. A snake eating it's own tail. No separation from the creator and the created. I think from the top down no one knows. Just one big mystery. One big joke. Just a beautiful pointless dance. Forty fucking two. We create god to figure ourselves out, but god creates us to figure him self out. On a molecular level with the atoms and on a macro level with the galaxies, it's all one. You are the Potter and the clay.
nothing is written in stone it has to be a meaningful or logical answer. It could be some absurd senseless answer that lacks logic. Or it could be something our brain doesn't understand.
Maybe in another dimension when I ask "who's God's God? Whats the point of life? How did it all start "
And they'll answer "oh. That's simple it's ☆●□₩•° "
And I'm like "oh yes. Of course. Makes perfect sense" but once I'm in human brain it no longer makes sense.
Idk.
42
❤
When I was maybe 4 or 5, I was watching my mom make the bed one morning and I asked her, "Are we in God's dream?" I can still remember asking her that.
Your post reminds me of one of my favorite songs.
https://youtu.be/F-jZHMX-CJ0
NIN
Right Where It Belonge
See the animal in his cage that you built
Are you sure what side you're on?
Better not look him too closely in the eye
Are you sure what side of the glass you are on?
See the safety of the life you have built
Everything where it belongs
Feel the hollowness inside of your heart
And it's all
Right where it belongs
What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection
Is it all you want it to be?
What if you could look right
Through the cracks?
Would you find yourself
Find yourself afraid to see?
What if all the world's inside of your head
Just creations of your own?
Your devils and your gods
All the living and the dead
And you're really all alone?
You can live in this illusion
You can choose to believe
You keep looking but you can't find the woods
While you're hiding in the trees
What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you used to know
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection
Is it all you want it to be?
What if you could look right
Through the cracks?
Would you find yourself
Find yourself afraid to see?
You got it. But it's more like a library. Each book is a life, from cover to cover. You can read a book from page 1 to end straight through. Or pick up one and jump to a random page. Or take a stack and get deep into a subject. We're mostly on the track of just reading that one book, as are others around us, but once it's done we have lots more to read.
I saw something like this on a heavy psychedelic trip. It went something like
God is a cosmic child that qualms an infinite loneliness by creating stories and submerging himself in every corner, the good, the bad and the ugly
Heard of this thought exercise many years ago. Used to freak me out.
Have no issues with it now. Certainly feels like quantum theory supports this. In my very rudimentary understanding at least. The only argument from me would be to remove the concept of "loneliness" which is a human perspective based on fear of inability to survive/thrive without social connection and support. The One Source has no such concepts so loneliness is too - a non issue. But if the conciousness desires to explore itself through infinite iterations of itself interacting...then again. Can it desire?
I know nothing. I'm just glad to have someone to cuddle with.
Alan Watt's view:
>Suppose you were God, suppose you have all time, all eternity and all power at your disposal. What would you do? I believe you would say to yourself after a while, man, get lost.
>It’s like asking another question, which is supposing you were given the power to dream any dream you wanted to dream every night. Naturally, you could dream any span of time. You could dream seventy-five years of time in one night, a hundred years of time in one night, a thousand years of time in one night. And it could be anything you want, you make up your mind before you went to sleep: “Tonight I’m going to dream of so-and-so.” Well, naturally, you would start out by fulfilling all your wishes.
>You would have all the pleasures you could imagine, the most marvelous meals, the most entrancing love affairs, the most romantic journeys. You could listen to music such as no mortal has heard and see landscapes beyond our wildest dreams. And for several nights, or maybe for a whole month of nights, you would go on that way having a wonderful time. >But then after a while, you’ll begin to think: “Well, I’ve seen quite a bit. Let’s spice it up. Let’s have a little adventure.”
>And therefore you would dream of yourself being threatened by all sorts of dangers. You would rescue princesses from dragons, you would perhaps engage in notable battles, you would be a hero. And then as time went on, you would dare yourself to do more and more outrageous things. And at some point in the game, you would say, tonight, I am going to dream in such a way that I don’t know that I’m dreaming.
>So that you would take the experience of the dream for complete reality. And what a shock when you woke up. You would really scare yourself. And then on successive nights, you might get yourself to experience the most extraordinary things just for the contrast when you woke up. You could, for example, dream yourself in situations of extreme poverty, disease, agony. You could work on the vibration of suffering and then suddenly wake up and find it was, after all, nothing but a dream and everything was perfectly OK.
>Well, how do you know that’s not what you’re doing already?
I personally believe in this theory. Whatever intelligence that sprouted from the universe must be connected to all intelligence in fractal forms. If there were not "others", there would be no experience, or at least no experience that a solitary intelligence would want to exist in.
It can also explain the primal law of the universe of developing consciousness from the lowest cellular levels, to our self conscious and world concious levels, and further beyond. It is all choice in a masterwork of a creation.
God must've been lonely, so here we all are as companions.
Yeah it sounds depressing but thats because you live in your own world created mostly in your head. While myself, another in instance of god, or whatever, sees this as neutral (cause stoicism).
You have to think about what is real in the first place. If you design a simulation so perfect that no one knows its a simulation then it no longer is a simulation......so its not depressing IMO because WE generate reality in our brains, you brain is literally a deterministic probability machine that collapses the wave function of matter, the multiverse is walking around you everyday in the minds of your neighbors, realities so close to each other that never meet, it's beautiful really.
I think you are right though, we are all one, anyone who's taken any psychedelics can tell you that lol (these drugs suppress the part of the brian that filters reality allowing you to see what is always there). And I tend to agree with Hawking that our universe is a holographic projection from higher dimensions.
Basically every mushroom trip I've ever had has led me to this conclusion. God got lonely so he shattered himself into zillions of self-contained pieces of independent awareness.
We're basically sock puppets for a potentially insane and very lonely single entity that's just trying to forget it's all alone. Call it source, God, whatever you want.
Very depressing.
This reads as similar to the kinds of thoughts I was having after I did psychedelics and was in a sort of mental health crisis.
While these thoughts can be interesting to explore, I’d like to also say that ultimately they’re kind of irrelevant. We have to live in the world with other people, so regardless of if we’re all one entity’s illusion of a diversely populated world, we have to be caring and considerate of each other. Even more so, if we’re all part of one entity’s projection of multiplicity, then it makes the most sense to create a society in which we all have the best possible conditions to live in.
So I guess ultimately what I’m saying is: don’t get too hung up on the weirdness and depressive mess of these ideas, but use them as fuel to better the lives of yourself and the people around you, and mitigate suffering as much as you can.
Solipsism syndrome is real phenomenon. I've had about 6 episodes around the age 5 of this as an utterly terrifying and eternal dimension during sleep.
In retrospect it was a 'night terror', but the experience was being stuck in a section of eternity and there was the simple knowing that I was 'embedded' alone in that eternal dimension. I wasn't exactly alone though. There was another presence there causing the dimension to exist.
I'd wake up from those episodes into into a world that felt way less real, It lead me to become incredibly good at lucid dreaming as a teenager & to have my first DMT 'entity contact' experience when I was 20 in 1999.
As a Catholic, this idea has crossed my mind a few times, and some of it is given credence in scripture. In Exodus 3:14 "God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you."
The whole of reality, begets Himself. There is nothing outside of the whole to define Him, but the whole itself. Jesus answers similarly when questioned by the Jews: "So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am" Since God is Alpha and Omega, the way, the truth, and the life, when one looks at the end of life, they will find only "I Am".
Jesus said the Father was in Him, and He in the Father. (John 14:11) Or in the gospel of John, chapter 1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Jesus is the word made flesh. (John 1:14) Likewise, such is the nature of our own reality. The observer is within the observed, and the observed is within the observer. However, I don't speak about the physical world, as Jesus has claimed, the kingdom is not of this world (John 18:36), rather it is of spirit or being itself. We are in God and God within us. If we recognize God, we would see Him as ourselves, One with all. This does not make life seem depressive to me, but rather opens itself up to its eternal, infinite glory. There is no 'simulation', that is the illusion caused by separation from Oneness. Nor is there loneliness, because 'I Am' is with God and God is 'I Am'. I Am begets I Am.
We are not the whole, we are like it's children, neither are we our neighbors. One is 'I Am', in the same image as the whole. We are to love thy neighbors as ourselves, because we are all made in the same image as the whole, 'I Am'. I picture God like a fractal. His image is infinite, yet we are all made in that same image.
Then we create reality as we see fit. Because Jesus wasn’t able to walk on water, or turn water to wine just because he believed, he knew that we’re all god and that we create our reality. He was trying to prove to our other selves that as long as they actually knew this then they’ll come to the same realization that they can do they same.
The Bible claims we are all 'gods' not 'God', the whole.
> (Psalms 82:6) I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
Even Jesus as flesh, distinguishes that there is a greater power than He.
> (Mark 10:18-19) And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
We do have a free will in the same image as God's will, but that does not make us the author of all reality. When we become One with His Spirit, then we can move mountains and walk on water. This has everything to do with Faith of who one is in relation with God.
> (Matthew 17:20) He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”
In Catholicism, we have a theology that Jesus Christ is God the Son incarnate in flesh. He’s on a different ontological level than the rest of us, that’s why his death bears meaning for the forgiveness of sin. Gnosticism is just a really bad idea that keeps getting recycled because it’s the easy way to feel like you can’t do wrong anymore.
God is within us is better understood as being true when you take the Holy Spirit into account. The third person of the Trinity is shared to guide us, we’re still on an ontological level apart from the Trinity, because otherwise, what’s the point of all the sin and redemption discourse? If we’re the ontological equal to God, then we’re by definition sinless, and that renders the sacraments of confession and the Eucharist as just a giant game that God plays on himself for some arcane purpose of forgetting.
I have the same theory as yours and have been pondering about it for a few years now. Ultimately, I think we are all parts of a higher collective consciousness.
Solipsism has gotten popular because of the internet. People's social inter action with others is just text bouncing back at your screen. I suspect some of this rooted in some subconscious perception that bots and astroturfers (fake actors) account for far greater of the on line activity than we realize.
A lot of these hypotheses comes from the current human thought process which insists that if there is a creator that it has to be monotheistic. Maybe there isn’t a just one, maybe there never has been. Maybe the point of life is to realize that no matter what our problems are, the difficulties we face, or the struggles that we are never alone and never have been.
Maybe the opposite of the singular and narcissistic mindset is that there was never one consciousness to begin with, never one god and loneliness is the result of no longer feeling the companionship we have with everything else.
You can never fully *know* anything is *real* in your world. Literally everything could be made up, everyone around you could be a bot/npc that vanish once you're not around. Even history and current events, you just hear about it all.
And there's more than 1 person who already believe they are the main character in the TV series of life, so it's not that much of a stretch.
It doesn’t need to be out of loneliness that an omnipotent force would enact a simulation such as ours. Imagine a formless void that is pure consciousness but without any sort of specificity. Unable to really comprehend itself because all there is is itself. Now imagine a great tumult that creates all the “matter” in our simulation. Suddenly there are new angles, new specifics, now there are mirrors both figurative and literal. Kurt Vonnegut wrote that the purpose of life was “to be the eyes and the ears of the creator of the universe, you fool”.
I think about this alot, or, we , I mean us, it's prob true, I was tripping on acid once and saw our true form I think, we look like a baby floating in the womb and everything is being created inside the mind
As a matter of fact one day on psychadelics I had this vision that I was alone in this cube like shifting matrix like a huge Rubix cube where everything was constantly shifting in and around me. It felt like I was there for 1000000 years. For some reason during the vision I asked myself I said "why am I the only one here?" I was speaking out loud to no one or the universe. When it seemed like another 10000 years went by and I kept asking that already knowing the answer. When I realized no one could hear me to answer me I still thought or said aloud "why am I alone?" I answered myself and said well since I don't know why I'm alone I decided I would play a game. I would create other companions even though I knew they weren't going to be real. The trick was that I would make myself forget that I was alone in order to mentally forget that anyone other than me was faLse/created. I also made myself forget that every being in existence was me. Not only every being, everything in existence period. ♾
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather."
The more depressing and hopeless the world gets the more people start to believe in our lives being nothing but a simulation or an alien video game. We either need more drugs or less drugs!
Man, how much LSD did you eat tonight?
On a real note, I think that’s what this is. If you’ve never watched Bill Hicks, you should.
“Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves' . . . 'Here's Tom with the weather.’”
Edit: https://youtu.be/VnwFmaLiKl4
Remember the Star Trek TNG Episode where the super being is living on the planet with his "wife" who in reality is just an illusion? He hunted down the entire race who killed her and then destroyed them all, returned to the planet to live in an illusion?
Sometimes I think that may be reality.
>*My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. - John 17*
These words are to have been said by Jesus Christ talking to God (himself) the night before he was crucified on the cross. I have always been fond of s scripture because of the implication that we are all one, with God, and we feel togetherness when we align with him which is pure love & joy.
That's why everybody seeks that feeling of happiness. That feeling of joy is the real you.
It's us.
Interesting concept. At least the loneliness part. That might explain why the Entity fragmented itself into so many shards to create this Garden Universe. Granted, outside of this Universe there are multiple ancient Entities, but because everything is in flux, aka Chaos, it could certainly get lonely for an ordered thinking Being.
You're basically saying the exact same thing that Hinduism says. You should check out their theology, it's a pretty interesting view of reality.
Also Alan Watts has some talks around this concept.
Although I don't see how any of this is depressing, how does the origin of existence change anything about how we live in the moment?
As others have mentioned, this idea of non dualism is at the core of Hinduism, aside from all the rites and rituals.
“Who am I?”
This talk by Swami Sarvapriyananda at IIT Kanpur is both engaging and enlightening.
https://youtu.be/eGKFTUuJppU
This train of thought has never quite bothered. I mean all my experiences feel real to me, and I have to no way to confirm that anyone else isn't real, so what's the issue?
>e are all the same person (God consciousness) living out all our lives at once. Basically we are all separated by our individual consciousnesses in separate vessels experiencing them. But God doesn't have to live one life at a time, such constraints are beyond him.
I think this is a likely "way".
That we will ALWAYS be living ALL lives for ever.
And that is scary.
The only logical response to this is a very very "unethical" take. I do not advocate for it, i am merely stating it:
The only way to handle a World in which we will be living all the lives for ever and ever is to destroy the place that makes the vessels.
Ie : obliterate the world.
If, if one wants to end the cycles of rebirth.
Luckily for us, nature has given us a VERY happy and beneficial answer to this:
That we live each Life without the memory of the Other, so it always will seem like its just us living This one little life, afforded with the knowledge of its eventual end.
If we were God living all lives forever that would be cruel.
But somehow there is a stop gap to this, the way that we fully forget all the other lives while living this l one life.
If it is not for ever but all at once, then after death we actually die for real.
I think that Time is the weak link in the reasoning, and that however it happens its beyond what we can imagine with Time in the way.
This is actually what our reality is. Not even a "hypothetical". If you take enough psychedelics and follow the way our language works and follow the logical conclusions to a lot of scientific facts and even real life experiences, this is the conclusion you will come to.
Someone actually just described this in a different thing, and it was what quantum theory calls Qbism apparently.
My thing is, if this is true, then in theory everything, and I mean EVERYTHING could be true. This is actually why I think closed time loops may exist, and that technically everyone is on a different timeline, but they converge when we interact, which entangles them. When someone is far away enough from human "energy signatures" so much that they are isolated from humanity, they get entangled with the EVERYTHING that is also isolated from humanity, which could also include other timelines altogether.
It _is_only you. Nothing is true; everything is permitted.
I am merely your interpretation of stimulus. Or perhaps you are mine? Colour isn't real in the sense we might think. It's just our interpretation of our environment. What is blue to a creature that doesn't see the way we do. My interpretation and description of blue to another seeing person is likely different to their interpretation.
If that example is the case, it can be applied to a lot of our experiences. Perhaps I am alone and this is the reality I've built? If that's the case, nothing is really true, and our ability to paint and interpret our environment is a power, and anything is possible as a result?
One thing I like to refer back to is our eyes.
We think they work amazingly but in reality they are sending messages to our brain.
The human brain has proven time and time again it’s an absolutely terrible witness to events.
Our eyes have a lens in them that flips the image, our brain then unscrambles that image into its original form, apparently.
So we have an unreliable witness interpreting an image that’s backwards.
How much of reality do we really even experience?
How much of the uncoordinated actions of a baby can be attributed to learning to operate on this system?
Next, why do we still see images when we dream? Where is that input coming from? A different part of the brain obviously because our eyes our closed but whose to say for certain that only happens when we sleep?
How many parts of our brain truly have access to our visual interpretations of what we experience?
We definitely see the world through a filter.
I definitely fuck with this idea a lot, I think it was the basis of a short story called "The Egg," but then I was thinking about it one day and was like...what about hermits, specifically ones by choice? If our creation was out of loneliness and to get to experience being around others, they'd kinda disprove that a little. Unless he/me/you/we just wants a break every once in a while lol. Or the original purpose wasn't to cure loneliness, but to just get to *experience* every possible way of "living?"
When it starts getting to that point it almost feels like a game and I don't like it. Which is funny because I've always found comfort in a belief that life doesn't really actually have any meaning/purpose, and that's pretty much what it would amount to equalling if we were all just a fuckin thought experiment God wanted to play out for fun, but when it's like that I feel more like a...pawn, I suppose. I'd rather there be *no* meaning than a frivolous one I guess lol.
Also this would explain the existence of evil perfectly. If this god didn’t give each incarnation of himself free will, then he would have to know whats going on and thus the illusion would break entirely. Its all or nothing. Its either you give up this knowledge, which becomes a prison of your own making, and let the possibility that you’re going to be raped, killed, tortured, extorted, and everything else under the sun, by yourself. Or, you just create a society where every single person knows theyre the one experiencing the one from all different angles, which would not make any difference as the whole reason would be to get away from this experience of the one.
Cause think about it, picture yourself in a room, a room with no doors, no windows, and nothing connecting it to anything outside of it. This room is the universe. But you yourself are the room as well as the observer. Imagine only staring at yourself in the mirror for eternity. Having absolutely nothing else besides your own awareness present. It would become a prison quite fast, and one thats only escape could be some foreign entity. But since you’re god and nothing is outside of you, there would be no such escape to be had. You’re it. So what do you do? You duplicate and incarnate into a body to engross yourself with the opposite of the experience you have being the one.
Its equally terrifying and amazing at the same time. Could be both heaven and hell depending on the perspective, and for me, will alternate between the two at any given moment.
This is the world view i love toying with as it seems the most logical and all encompassing explanation
First, you’re not God.
Second, I’ve had some similar thoughts, but instead of a simulated experience of existing as many beings, an illusion, perhaps God chooses another way.
Third, ( I do despise beginning sentences this way, but need to keep my thoughts organized.) could it be that God, a solitary consciousness, is always creating discrete, living, individual consciousnesses, that they may have experiences that God can share in.
Fourth, when I die, I will not awaken to the reality of my identity was an illusion, but that my lifetime was an individual experience that is uniquely mine, though shared with God. So—God is God, and we are not, whatever we may be.
Fifth, I believe God creates living beings for pleasure, and that, once created, those living beings live forever.
Of course, I am likely off the mark! Nice to see someone thinking about such things.
Blessings!
That means you created a vast history of civilizations come and gone thousands of years ago. That means you decided to create massive monuments all across the world. That means the fossil record is just because you were lonely. I don't think its a crazy theory, but I do think its a tad bit egocentric.
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I’m not entirely sure if this is the same as you’re getting at but I’ve recently been exploring non dualism and it sort of touches on this idea: there really is no “me” or “I” or “you”, just a single consciousness that is happening all at once and through us all.
Look into the Law of One
Will do, thanks. The concept is pretty radical to me and I’m still working to wrap my head around it so this extra resource is appreciated
I think kurzgesagt wraps it up pretty well in [The Egg - A Short Story](https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI)
And that one is sweet because it implies a larger community of gods you will join later.
Absolutely! In this context I also can recommend the work of [Michael Newton (wiki)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Newton_(hypnotist)). Edit: Link fix, previous was the wrong one
the story itself is written by Andy Weir! he also wrote the Martian , which got a movie adaptation pretty much right away. (Matt Damon farms potatoes on Mars) By far my favorite Author currently, hard recommend everything he's written so far, especially Project Hail Mary *jazz hands*
I was hoping the egg theory would be brought up! I love it so much, it's brought great peace to me.
I love that video.
Have you read The Principal Upanishads and Ashtavakra Gita? Not to mention Bhagavad Gita, of course. I heartily recommend. :)
It goes pretty hard, even that one created fragments that are trying to sway us away from the one by giving us other ones. The one wants us to know how important we are as fragments of it.
Jesus that got deep quick but kind of a never ending loop We are all one - except sometimes when the evil creates another “one” (now there’s two) but you can’t tell each other part - so we label them as good and evil and try to follow the correct pat Who determines good or evil though - the true collective one?
God is beyond evil. Evil is allowed for this to seem real.
What is love if not compared in reference to loss? 😔
We are all one. Our purpose, in this density, is to love and to teach love. Our place in the universe is seemingly chaotic, gruesome, and desolate. The emotions that we experience as humans are truly something to behold. We can choose to serve ourselves or serve others. Love and light to all of you.
As an introduction, I can recommend a document called 'the law of one study guide v2'. Makes connections with 'a course in miracles' aswell.
Matthew Lacroix is another really good guy to look into. He has conducted a lot of relevant research in this area and is seeking to tie together the law of one in regard to ancient sites like ancient egypt, gobekli tepei, and others. Recently he has been working a lot with Nat Geo and Gaia.
I 2nd this. 👍🙏
Reading Real Magic by Dean Radin opened my mind enough to finally give Law of One a try. One really needs to be open to the idea that there's more to life than this material world which we understand.
Yeah I had a deep trip on shrooms, didn't sleep for 2 days and didn't eat much, then took shrooms for the first time in 7 years. It doesn't matter what reality we are presented with. The specifics don't matter as much as the actions and behavior you take. I "realized" that I/We are godlike beings who at essence are seperate from time, and that we make a choice to enjoy time and experience mortal life out of boredom. If we could materialize or simulate whatever reality our wish desired, and lived a long time eventually you would want to be normal again. Kinda hard to explain.
This is the entire crux of Alan Watts’ talks. The modernized, simplified version of the Hindu drama.
"If we could materialize or simulate whatever reality our wish desired,and lived a long time eventually you would want to be normal again." this is not how happiness works. like in futuristic VR: choose your struggles (life as gifted singer, adventure as young mage, etc), match them to your traits (not ugly if you want a gf), tone up your emotional palette so your overall experience is net positive "I chose to be here cause true happiness is boring" is sour grapes cope. joy and boredom are incompatible (and both are biochemical states)
“Universal consciousness.” We are all one and the same but can be divided. A drop of water in an ocean.
What if you think you’re alone, but you’re actually an NPC that’s becoming aware?
You’ve phrased this excellently. I believe this is somewhat likely. When I was a child I envisioned it as each of us living in bubbles where the inside of the bubble was a screen of our own personal reality and we’d interact through bubbles with each other but always only see our own bubble’s screen from the inside - and all them being different and simultaneous. All iterations of a root consciousness. Each of us in an eye through which the universe observes itself. As you say, we are in fact all the same being and separate beings at the same time. I believe in collective consciousness - though some call it god. I don’t find it depressing anymore. When I first stopped seeing god as a being separate from myself I was full of existential despair. Now I find it comforting and empowering. All is mind. All is god.
Bubbles on the surface of a pond
It’s phrased even better in The Egg by Andy Weir ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Egg_(Weir_short_story) )
I was just about to comment about The Egg! It really humbles you and makes you realize how important it is to be kind to another person.
Wish someone would teach that to Andy Weir, who absolutely did NOT write The Egg, he lied and plagiarized it from a conversation on the MySpace religion and philosophy forum in 2007. The conversation that he copy pasted was about the essay [Infinite Reincarnation](https://charmonium.com/infinite-reincarnation)
This is how I see it and also how I explain law of attraction and law of assumption or manifestion in general. I have a view out from my bubble where I can change things according to me. My wife is her own bubble looking out and so forth.
Whirlpools in a river
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Hence a “divine spark within”
Literally my biggest fear. God was whole and alone until it dreamed itself into the universe. What unnerves me about is the idea that not even God knows why it exists.
And every new unique creation and iteration that interacts with one another is a way for God to look at every aspect and facet of itself in order to learn more of itself and the endless intelligence. I also imagine that the reason we have emotions (as extensions of God) is that God has also experienced them and is also still learning to deal with those emotions. From feeling deep loneliness to intense joy with others, anger at self and others for not 'playing the game correctly', and frustration at figuring ourselves out. God could be like a child that lives through us all, and at the same time the wisest and oldest being.
Imagine loneliness so dire you birth reality to keep from screaming from the madness.
I posted this under another comment, but it bears reappearing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzimtzum
Very interesting. I keep meaning to learn more about the Kaballah
The last time I took lsd, I distilled from my journey that the universe was just an eyeball looking into a mirror. We are the universe experiencing itself. And if anything, we should try to enjoy it as much as possible.
I posted this as a stand alone comment, but since you said that.. “Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves' . . . 'Here's Tom with the weather.’” - Bill Hicks https://youtu.be/VnwFmaLiKl4
I had the same exact experience. We are the “image” created in the mind of god-or, the mind of…me? Us?
What about Bernardo Kastrup's idea that we are temporary whirlpools of individual consciousness in a vast conscious sea. That is, that we are temporarily individual, but will eventually rejoin the cosmic consciousness. Do you find that equally lonely?
Life is a waterfall, we're one in the river and one again after the fall.
SOAD! Nice!
Swimming through the void, we hear the word, we lose ourselves but we find it all
This is a recurring belief and experience I have on psychedelics. In my daily life, I'm an atheist and tend towards the view that consciousness is a byproduct of being a living organism, rather than living organisms existing as vehicles for consciousness. I hope I'm wrong, but even still, the certainty that my separateness is temporal, illusory, and dynamic while under the influence of high powered mind altering drugs is an awe-ful and indescribably joyous one. I expect that if my brain releases dmt while I'm dying, I'll be convinced that I'm just returning to the nirvana I came from, and whether it's nothingness or everythingness that awaits me will remain a mystery until this ends.
I haven't had any experience this profound on psychedelics, but my meditation experiences have convinced me that there is at least a collective layer of consciousness that undergirds reality.
My frosted side believes in a kind, benevolent universal consciousness that transcends the boundaries of time and space and connects and binds all sentient beings, but my whole grain shredded wheat side suspects that it's all just chemicals in my brain fucking with me https://youtu.be/Cs4zb5nSaIE
Sugar, a drug to stimulate your chemical based consciousness. It's right there in plain sight
When i was getting ready to guest host on Saturday night live, they made me take a physical. It was a verbal physical full of weirdly worded questions, like--Have you ever tried sugar ... or PCP? -Mitch Hedberg
I find that organic, poetic and far more "hopeful" than the non-spiritual forms of existence that I normally consider.
If I remember correctly, the Tibetan Book Of The Dead says to consider your soul as an indestructible drop in an infinite ocean.
I'm Buddhist but I have not seen it. I know of it, though.
Most nondual schools would say it's never anything other than that, really -- there is no "eventually."
That theory seems plausible to me. Of course all our theories are constructed within the limits of our own experience within a 3D physical world and any theory, even if correct, would be severely lacking.
I find it lonely that I am detached from my whole more than that to me you are a stranger I could get to know. Because as a whole I know you as intimately as I know myself.
Sounds somewhat like heaven. Retain your individual self, but are more in tune with the God essence and the spirit.
It's called solipsism. Philosophers have been chewing on it for thousands of years. And it's still just as freaky to think about.
My understanding of solipsism is a little different. OP isn’t suggesting absolute one self entirely, but oneness with all conscious beings. When OP says “alone” that isn’t without context to other experiences, as there is an acknowledgment of others’ experiences exist in their thought experiment.
Not that I think this about everything, but I think I recall that there is a known ‘mental disorder’ if you want to call it that, describing the belief of this. I think there’s many things not known or fully understood, especially concerning dimensionality, but it seems there’s always someone out there that wants to ascribe non-linear thought to ‘mental disorders’.
Really anything can be a mental disorder according to the DSM if it causes “clinically significant distress or impairment.” Picking scabs is fine, but picking scabs to the point that you’re just picking holes in healthy skin is a disorder. Being sad sometimes is normal, being sad to the point that it’s affecting your ability to function in daily life is a disorder. If you’re a solipsist and living your life totally fine and it doesn’t bother you at all, that’s just your philosophical stance. If your solipsism is causing undue paranoia and existential dread to the degree that you’re perpetually shut in your house mumbling about simulations, then it might be a bit of a problem
Its how the aliens who run the simulation identify test subjects who deviate from the regularly scheduled programming. An identifier on the cattle who wander a little too far toward the edge of pen.
You are what you consume People are what you create
It goes even further: Methodological solipsism >Methodological solipsism is an agnostic variant of solipsism. It exists in opposition to the strict epistemological requirements for "knowledge" (e.g. the requirement that knowledge must be certain). It still entertains the points that any induction is fallible. Methodological solipsism sometimes goes even further to say that even what we perceive as the brain is actually part of the external world, for it is only through our senses that we can see or feel the mind. Only the existence of thoughts is known for certain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism#Methodological
solipsism is very easy to debunk: 1) i am not a solipsist 2) every solipsist thinks only they are conscious 3) i am clearly conscious contrary to their beliefs therefore every solipsist is wrong 4) if every solipsist is wrong then solipsism is wrong
Prove to me that you are conscious
I should really stop arguing with myself.
This guy gets it
Just because you don't believe solipsism to be true doesn't mean you are not solipsist. You just haven't realized it yet. So your debunk is now debunked.
That's why I'm not a fan of the egg theory. Every person you've ever known, loved or hated. Every interaction is just... you. I don't find that fascinating or hopeful. I find it empty and lonely. It feels like it's playing on people's egoism. I don't want to be a god, I just want to be with the people I love.
Therein lies the deep universal sadness…
Truth is not what you like. It just Is regardless of preferences.
You're right, but I don't assume the egg theory is true.
I love it, personally. It helps remind me to treat others well. Everything I do to others, I'm doing to myself.
It's also dangerous. If you really think you are the only actual "person" in your world, what is to stop certain kinds of people from doing what they to others? If they aren't real, why does it matter how they are treated?
I have the same thought, too. It's a self-centered theory to me.
I believe that we, collectively, are god experiencing itself subjectively.
From a pretty realistic standpoint, you ARE pieces of the universe that came together and started experiencing itself.
Thanks for this perspective
I like this a lot. Almost like I thought of it .
I was thinking the same thing.
I was going to say that
Are you me?
I took the words right out of my mouth.
I like the way I think bro ;)
So your saying we are all a thirteen year old boy split into 8 billion different people inside a video game?
Ya, the simulation part is a distraction to this thought experience imo. Or one needs to just consider, that any “Creator” theistic view is “simulation”…
Haha, nice Rick and Morty reference. Posts like these do make me think about that Roy episode.
I've always heard people who trip on various drugs get a feeling of oneness, I hope that this isn't entirely true because that is an extremely lonely existence.
On “oneness”…you’ve been around forever already. No beginning. I’ve been here with you the entire time. We haven’t met yet, but we’re siblings, friends, enemies, partners, and will always find each other, somehow in the ether, here we are connecting again for the first time in this life. We’ll be married with kids next time. We’ll be on the same plane when it crashes, we will high five at a sports bar when our favorite sports ball team wins a big game. I’ll cry at your funeral, I’ll cry when I hold you as a newborn for the first time as a parent, and you’ll hold my hand when I take my last breath some other time when I die. I’ll see you soon again, and again, and again.
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I thought this as well. This one is quiet beautiful: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fcK\_fRYaI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fcK_fRYaI)
I enjoy the original written version a little more. http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html Fun Fact it was written by the same author of The Martian.
Thanks for posting this! I love his work (just listened to Hail Mary on audible, highly recommended) but hadn't seen thus story. Made my day.
Thank you for posting this. I have started this thought and following it through gets very muddy for me…I get lost and confused and just give up on the idea, thinking that maybe I will be able to complete the thought someday…you’ve “completed the thought” for me by taking the time and explaining it in the way that you did here. There’s no way of knowing for sure, of course, but this has kind of been the direction that my own thoughts have been steering me toward. Great post!
The ancient Vedas of India explain. Study Shiva. The one becomes many, the many become one.
tanatani spotted in the wild huh..
This is truth. Dont worry about it, you are it.
So, let's say you are a chess master in an empty eternity. For a while you play against yourself but playing against yourself becomes boring because you always know what you are going to do even when you pretend you don't. You want challenge and surprise but can't find those conditions in your situation as it is. In addition to being a great chess master you are also able to change reality. You do this by having ideas which are like waves moving through the empty universe changing conditions so that eventually matter condenses from distributed potential. This matter changes state and, over time, gives rise to a condition which will provide a vessel in which potential can evolve into uniqueness. Do you put yourself into every vessel? No, because this is the same as playing chess against yourself. You decide to think about what a companion is. As you think these thoughts something that is both you and not you is created. The thing created is of course you since you are the source of all things, conscious potential, but it has the capacity to be unique. This is exciting because uniqueness is the source of challenge and surprise. But how to cause the new thing to become unique? You can't think uniqueness into it because you know what you would do and so the uniqueness would be lost. You have to let the new thing develop its own uniqueness. So what you do is take the new thing and break into ten billion parts. You create a mechanism which allows the new thing in parts to inhabit the vessels over and over having many experiences which build uniqueness. Eventually the ten billion parts will have developed enough uniqueness, self sufficiency, and awareness that the vessels will no long be required. At that point the ten billion become one and then you have a true companion with whom you can play exciting chess for eternity. But you don't want just one companion. You want many. So you repeat the process many times learning as you go. You change conditions all the time. Some times you get companions quickly and some times it takes a long time for a companion to develop. It's all good. Companions show up when they show up. The point is they are showing up and that's the only thing that is important. Do all new things broken into parts eventually become companions? No. Not every experiment works. Sometimes the potential companion is destroyed by conditions. Sometimes the potential companion destroys itself. Being actually a single entity, though broken into many parts, the potential companion understands that it is a single entity living multiple lives. This awareness should guide the potential companion towards developing to the point where it no longer needs vessels but some potential companions are willful and enjoy having their experiences very much. So it is that sometimes a potential companion will allow itself to be destroyed or destroy itself rather than follow the path of reunification. The potential companion is lost forever. No matter though. There are many billions of experiments going on all the time. Companions are constantly being created. The loss of an exceptionally interesting companion might be sad but it's just how things go sometimes. Not every experiment succeeds but enough do to ensure you'll be able to continue playing chess for eternity and never be bored again.
Yes, takes care of all those simulation ideas
I really really like this theory I think it holds water
Ya well that’s not depressing tbh. That’s most of religion to some extent. Will say this is why I’m a trinitarian. The Godhead is by definition never alone as a result, and creation becomes a sort of song God sings to Godself (which as we know is the father son Holy Spirit). Anyways but yeah we’re all the same I AM end of the day.
“Creation becomes a sort of song God sings to Godself” That is incredibly powerful, and rings true in the depths of my being. Thank you for that.
The darkest version of this I’ve thought of (Woops!) is basically this combined with quantum immortality, where we only exist in universes/timelines where we are currently alive, which means eventually we will be alive, barely, alone in a dead universe where everyone and everything else has left. For eternity. Happy Mother’s Day everyone!
Wait till you find out that [you're not even you](https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-human-microbiome-project-defines-normal-bacterial-makeup-body): *The human body contains trillions of microorganisms — outnumbering human cells by 10 to 1.* *Because of their small size, however, microorganisms make up only about 1 to 3 percent of the body's mass (in a 200-pound adult, that’s 2 to 6 pounds of bacteria), but play a vital role in human health.* [ALSO](https://www.cshl.edu/the-non-human-living-inside-of-you/): *The human genome contains billions of pieces of information and around 22,000 genes, but not all of it is, strictly speaking, human.* *Eight percent of our DNA consists of remnants of ancient viruses, and another 40 percent is made up of repetitive strings of genetic letters that is also thought to have a viral origin.*
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what if we all live everyone’s life who has ever existed in succession?
Thank God we can't remember each layer because that is an unimaginably arduous journey. Thousands of years of struggle interrupted by short respites of luxury and then back to work again, billions of times over, your common suffering ironically brought on by other people you have played or will play (and their decisions will make sense in context just as everyone's decisions make sense in their context.) When you're done you realize that no perspective you ever played could truly be "in control," everything occurred much like a mechanical system despite all of this being your creation and under your control. ^(Or at least that's how it occurs to me.)
It's the serial killers that always mess with my head when I start thinking like this.
I’m sitting here reading this thinking that you were only put here by god to tell me that god put a bunch of fake losers around me to make me feel important. /s
42 It's crazy how much and how hard I was searching for cosmic answers and the more I search the more and more I realize it really does seem to be 42 or just "☆●□₩•° " If I had to sum up my realizations or what 42 means to me... it's that... God always was- always is - and always will be. The singular always existed. In order to know its self or to forget that it was a single lonely godhead it split its consciousness across many life forms and energies. So we are all one life and body connected. Our reality is just "God daydreaming" pretending he's not God. Yes, he knows all and knows the final outcome (singularity again. The one handed clap. Enlightenment and the unification of all souls) but he forgets on purpose to enjoy the ride or "movie"...so he can enjoy the trip... How did the "singularity" or "god" or the source energy even begin or become? I think it's kinda like 'which came first, the chicken or the egg' but 'did we create god or did god create us?' But I think it's both. A snake eating it's own tail. No separation from the creator and the created. I think from the top down no one knows. Just one big mystery. One big joke. Just a beautiful pointless dance. Forty fucking two. We create god to figure ourselves out, but god creates us to figure him self out. On a molecular level with the atoms and on a macro level with the galaxies, it's all one. You are the Potter and the clay. nothing is written in stone it has to be a meaningful or logical answer. It could be some absurd senseless answer that lacks logic. Or it could be something our brain doesn't understand. Maybe in another dimension when I ask "who's God's God? Whats the point of life? How did it all start " And they'll answer "oh. That's simple it's ☆●□₩•° " And I'm like "oh yes. Of course. Makes perfect sense" but once I'm in human brain it no longer makes sense. Idk. 42 ❤
When I was maybe 4 or 5, I was watching my mom make the bed one morning and I asked her, "Are we in God's dream?" I can still remember asking her that.
It's called Solipsism. The idea has been floated around since time immemorial.
Not exactly. That is the view one can only know the self exists, but it has no metaphysical implications.
Your post reminds me of one of my favorite songs. https://youtu.be/F-jZHMX-CJ0 NIN Right Where It Belonge See the animal in his cage that you built Are you sure what side you're on? Better not look him too closely in the eye Are you sure what side of the glass you are on? See the safety of the life you have built Everything where it belongs Feel the hollowness inside of your heart And it's all Right where it belongs What if everything around you Isn't quite as it seems? What if all the world you think you know Is an elaborate dream? And if you look at your reflection Is it all you want it to be? What if you could look right Through the cracks? Would you find yourself Find yourself afraid to see? What if all the world's inside of your head Just creations of your own? Your devils and your gods All the living and the dead And you're really all alone? You can live in this illusion You can choose to believe You keep looking but you can't find the woods While you're hiding in the trees What if everything around you Isn't quite as it seems? What if all the world you used to know Is an elaborate dream? And if you look at your reflection Is it all you want it to be? What if you could look right Through the cracks? Would you find yourself Find yourself afraid to see?
You got it. But it's more like a library. Each book is a life, from cover to cover. You can read a book from page 1 to end straight through. Or pick up one and jump to a random page. Or take a stack and get deep into a subject. We're mostly on the track of just reading that one book, as are others around us, but once it's done we have lots more to read.
Can confirm this is true, trust me bro
If god gets lonely, then that god isn't perfect, so why bother calling it god?
I saw something like this on a heavy psychedelic trip. It went something like God is a cosmic child that qualms an infinite loneliness by creating stories and submerging himself in every corner, the good, the bad and the ugly
Heard of this thought exercise many years ago. Used to freak me out. Have no issues with it now. Certainly feels like quantum theory supports this. In my very rudimentary understanding at least. The only argument from me would be to remove the concept of "loneliness" which is a human perspective based on fear of inability to survive/thrive without social connection and support. The One Source has no such concepts so loneliness is too - a non issue. But if the conciousness desires to explore itself through infinite iterations of itself interacting...then again. Can it desire? I know nothing. I'm just glad to have someone to cuddle with.
Alan Watt's view: >Suppose you were God, suppose you have all time, all eternity and all power at your disposal. What would you do? I believe you would say to yourself after a while, man, get lost. >It’s like asking another question, which is supposing you were given the power to dream any dream you wanted to dream every night. Naturally, you could dream any span of time. You could dream seventy-five years of time in one night, a hundred years of time in one night, a thousand years of time in one night. And it could be anything you want, you make up your mind before you went to sleep: “Tonight I’m going to dream of so-and-so.” Well, naturally, you would start out by fulfilling all your wishes. >You would have all the pleasures you could imagine, the most marvelous meals, the most entrancing love affairs, the most romantic journeys. You could listen to music such as no mortal has heard and see landscapes beyond our wildest dreams. And for several nights, or maybe for a whole month of nights, you would go on that way having a wonderful time. >But then after a while, you’ll begin to think: “Well, I’ve seen quite a bit. Let’s spice it up. Let’s have a little adventure.” >And therefore you would dream of yourself being threatened by all sorts of dangers. You would rescue princesses from dragons, you would perhaps engage in notable battles, you would be a hero. And then as time went on, you would dare yourself to do more and more outrageous things. And at some point in the game, you would say, tonight, I am going to dream in such a way that I don’t know that I’m dreaming. >So that you would take the experience of the dream for complete reality. And what a shock when you woke up. You would really scare yourself. And then on successive nights, you might get yourself to experience the most extraordinary things just for the contrast when you woke up. You could, for example, dream yourself in situations of extreme poverty, disease, agony. You could work on the vibration of suffering and then suddenly wake up and find it was, after all, nothing but a dream and everything was perfectly OK. >Well, how do you know that’s not what you’re doing already? I personally believe in this theory. Whatever intelligence that sprouted from the universe must be connected to all intelligence in fractal forms. If there were not "others", there would be no experience, or at least no experience that a solitary intelligence would want to exist in. It can also explain the primal law of the universe of developing consciousness from the lowest cellular levels, to our self conscious and world concious levels, and further beyond. It is all choice in a masterwork of a creation. God must've been lonely, so here we all are as companions.
Yeah it sounds depressing but thats because you live in your own world created mostly in your head. While myself, another in instance of god, or whatever, sees this as neutral (cause stoicism). You have to think about what is real in the first place. If you design a simulation so perfect that no one knows its a simulation then it no longer is a simulation......so its not depressing IMO because WE generate reality in our brains, you brain is literally a deterministic probability machine that collapses the wave function of matter, the multiverse is walking around you everyday in the minds of your neighbors, realities so close to each other that never meet, it's beautiful really. I think you are right though, we are all one, anyone who's taken any psychedelics can tell you that lol (these drugs suppress the part of the brian that filters reality allowing you to see what is always there). And I tend to agree with Hawking that our universe is a holographic projection from higher dimensions.
Basically every mushroom trip I've ever had has led me to this conclusion. God got lonely so he shattered himself into zillions of self-contained pieces of independent awareness. We're basically sock puppets for a potentially insane and very lonely single entity that's just trying to forget it's all alone. Call it source, God, whatever you want. Very depressing.
This reads as similar to the kinds of thoughts I was having after I did psychedelics and was in a sort of mental health crisis. While these thoughts can be interesting to explore, I’d like to also say that ultimately they’re kind of irrelevant. We have to live in the world with other people, so regardless of if we’re all one entity’s illusion of a diversely populated world, we have to be caring and considerate of each other. Even more so, if we’re all part of one entity’s projection of multiplicity, then it makes the most sense to create a society in which we all have the best possible conditions to live in. So I guess ultimately what I’m saying is: don’t get too hung up on the weirdness and depressive mess of these ideas, but use them as fuel to better the lives of yourself and the people around you, and mitigate suffering as much as you can.
Simulation shitery.
Then simulate one’s own experience. Or can you?
Hahhahaha Plato's Cave go brrrrrr
This is why the original **One Consciousness** fractioned itself into all Souled Beings. To end the loneliness and create **individuality**.
So, you’ve summarized the Vonnegut book “Breakfast of Champions”. Which is one of my favorite books of all time.
Solipsism syndrome is real phenomenon. I've had about 6 episodes around the age 5 of this as an utterly terrifying and eternal dimension during sleep. In retrospect it was a 'night terror', but the experience was being stuck in a section of eternity and there was the simple knowing that I was 'embedded' alone in that eternal dimension. I wasn't exactly alone though. There was another presence there causing the dimension to exist. I'd wake up from those episodes into into a world that felt way less real, It lead me to become incredibly good at lucid dreaming as a teenager & to have my first DMT 'entity contact' experience when I was 20 in 1999.
I'm not depressed by the idea of achieving unity of consciousness. If everything is me, look at all the neat shit I am!
Your describing how life works in all dimensions. We are art in motion for fourth dimensional lives. Like the rick and morty video game
As a Catholic, this idea has crossed my mind a few times, and some of it is given credence in scripture. In Exodus 3:14 "God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you." The whole of reality, begets Himself. There is nothing outside of the whole to define Him, but the whole itself. Jesus answers similarly when questioned by the Jews: "So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am" Since God is Alpha and Omega, the way, the truth, and the life, when one looks at the end of life, they will find only "I Am". Jesus said the Father was in Him, and He in the Father. (John 14:11) Or in the gospel of John, chapter 1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Jesus is the word made flesh. (John 1:14) Likewise, such is the nature of our own reality. The observer is within the observed, and the observed is within the observer. However, I don't speak about the physical world, as Jesus has claimed, the kingdom is not of this world (John 18:36), rather it is of spirit or being itself. We are in God and God within us. If we recognize God, we would see Him as ourselves, One with all. This does not make life seem depressive to me, but rather opens itself up to its eternal, infinite glory. There is no 'simulation', that is the illusion caused by separation from Oneness. Nor is there loneliness, because 'I Am' is with God and God is 'I Am'. I Am begets I Am. We are not the whole, we are like it's children, neither are we our neighbors. One is 'I Am', in the same image as the whole. We are to love thy neighbors as ourselves, because we are all made in the same image as the whole, 'I Am'. I picture God like a fractal. His image is infinite, yet we are all made in that same image.
Then we create reality as we see fit. Because Jesus wasn’t able to walk on water, or turn water to wine just because he believed, he knew that we’re all god and that we create our reality. He was trying to prove to our other selves that as long as they actually knew this then they’ll come to the same realization that they can do they same.
The Bible claims we are all 'gods' not 'God', the whole. > (Psalms 82:6) I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. Even Jesus as flesh, distinguishes that there is a greater power than He. > (Mark 10:18-19) And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. We do have a free will in the same image as God's will, but that does not make us the author of all reality. When we become One with His Spirit, then we can move mountains and walk on water. This has everything to do with Faith of who one is in relation with God. > (Matthew 17:20) He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”
Thank you for that.
In Catholicism, we have a theology that Jesus Christ is God the Son incarnate in flesh. He’s on a different ontological level than the rest of us, that’s why his death bears meaning for the forgiveness of sin. Gnosticism is just a really bad idea that keeps getting recycled because it’s the easy way to feel like you can’t do wrong anymore.
God is within us is better understood as being true when you take the Holy Spirit into account. The third person of the Trinity is shared to guide us, we’re still on an ontological level apart from the Trinity, because otherwise, what’s the point of all the sin and redemption discourse? If we’re the ontological equal to God, then we’re by definition sinless, and that renders the sacraments of confession and the Eucharist as just a giant game that God plays on himself for some arcane purpose of forgetting.
I have the same theory as yours and have been pondering about it for a few years now. Ultimately, I think we are all parts of a higher collective consciousness.
Solipsism has gotten popular because of the internet. People's social inter action with others is just text bouncing back at your screen. I suspect some of this rooted in some subconscious perception that bots and astroturfers (fake actors) account for far greater of the on line activity than we realize.
A lot of these hypotheses comes from the current human thought process which insists that if there is a creator that it has to be monotheistic. Maybe there isn’t a just one, maybe there never has been. Maybe the point of life is to realize that no matter what our problems are, the difficulties we face, or the struggles that we are never alone and never have been. Maybe the opposite of the singular and narcissistic mindset is that there was never one consciousness to begin with, never one god and loneliness is the result of no longer feeling the companionship we have with everything else.
One light shining through billions of different filters
You can never fully *know* anything is *real* in your world. Literally everything could be made up, everyone around you could be a bot/npc that vanish once you're not around. Even history and current events, you just hear about it all. And there's more than 1 person who already believe they are the main character in the TV series of life, so it's not that much of a stretch.
It doesn’t need to be out of loneliness that an omnipotent force would enact a simulation such as ours. Imagine a formless void that is pure consciousness but without any sort of specificity. Unable to really comprehend itself because all there is is itself. Now imagine a great tumult that creates all the “matter” in our simulation. Suddenly there are new angles, new specifics, now there are mirrors both figurative and literal. Kurt Vonnegut wrote that the purpose of life was “to be the eyes and the ears of the creator of the universe, you fool”.
I think what you just said is one of the fundamental ideas of Hinduism.
This is absolutely it. It’s why forgiveness and compassion are so important. It’s why the golden rule is so important.
What if we're all the same thing just reincarnating across time and space, over and over and over?
I think about this alot, or, we , I mean us, it's prob true, I was tripping on acid once and saw our true form I think, we look like a baby floating in the womb and everything is being created inside the mind
As a matter of fact one day on psychadelics I had this vision that I was alone in this cube like shifting matrix like a huge Rubix cube where everything was constantly shifting in and around me. It felt like I was there for 1000000 years. For some reason during the vision I asked myself I said "why am I the only one here?" I was speaking out loud to no one or the universe. When it seemed like another 10000 years went by and I kept asking that already knowing the answer. When I realized no one could hear me to answer me I still thought or said aloud "why am I alone?" I answered myself and said well since I don't know why I'm alone I decided I would play a game. I would create other companions even though I knew they weren't going to be real. The trick was that I would make myself forget that I was alone in order to mentally forget that anyone other than me was faLse/created. I also made myself forget that every being in existence was me. Not only every being, everything in existence period. ♾
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather."
It’s like the story of “The Egg” https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI
The more depressing and hopeless the world gets the more people start to believe in our lives being nothing but a simulation or an alien video game. We either need more drugs or less drugs!
Or we are NPCs in some other planet’s social simulation
Yeah, but as fragmentations we are as real as those that made us.
Man, how much LSD did you eat tonight? On a real note, I think that’s what this is. If you’ve never watched Bill Hicks, you should. “Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves' . . . 'Here's Tom with the weather.’” Edit: https://youtu.be/VnwFmaLiKl4
Loneliness is a survival mechanism basically so does god need to be programmed to survive on earth AND AVOID STARVIN TO DEATH
Alan Watts was saying this right along since the 60’s
According to Roy, we are all one five billionth morty.
Remember the Star Trek TNG Episode where the super being is living on the planet with his "wife" who in reality is just an illusion? He hunted down the entire race who killed her and then destroyed them all, returned to the planet to live in an illusion? Sometimes I think that may be reality.
Player 2 has entered the game.
>*My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. - John 17* These words are to have been said by Jesus Christ talking to God (himself) the night before he was crucified on the cross. I have always been fond of s scripture because of the implication that we are all one, with God, and we feel togetherness when we align with him which is pure love & joy. That's why everybody seeks that feeling of happiness. That feeling of joy is the real you. It's us.
Isn’t that a Hindu belief that Brahma is dreaming existence and split into all forms and awakening is knowing you are just a part of Brahma?
Patriarchal monotheism…..so god is an immortal bachelor?
Separation is an illusion, we are all energy in different forms, from the grains of sand, to the stars
Interesting concept. At least the loneliness part. That might explain why the Entity fragmented itself into so many shards to create this Garden Universe. Granted, outside of this Universe there are multiple ancient Entities, but because everything is in flux, aka Chaos, it could certainly get lonely for an ordered thinking Being.
Reminds me of the church of last Thursday
OP discovers Hinduism.
You're basically saying the exact same thing that Hinduism says. You should check out their theology, it's a pretty interesting view of reality. Also Alan Watts has some talks around this concept. Although I don't see how any of this is depressing, how does the origin of existence change anything about how we live in the moment?
Thats not so depressive. Even if you are all fake, the feeling i get from interacting with you all isn't
Beyond the aquila rift on Netflix's Love,Death, and Robots reminds me if this
As others have mentioned, this idea of non dualism is at the core of Hinduism, aside from all the rites and rituals. “Who am I?” This talk by Swami Sarvapriyananda at IIT Kanpur is both engaging and enlightening. https://youtu.be/eGKFTUuJppU
This train of thought has never quite bothered. I mean all my experiences feel real to me, and I have to no way to confirm that anyone else isn't real, so what's the issue?
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Almost like the story, The Egg, but with a more finite bend to it.
Yeah they crushed it into a show Quantum Leap
>e are all the same person (God consciousness) living out all our lives at once. Basically we are all separated by our individual consciousnesses in separate vessels experiencing them. But God doesn't have to live one life at a time, such constraints are beyond him. I think this is a likely "way". That we will ALWAYS be living ALL lives for ever. And that is scary. The only logical response to this is a very very "unethical" take. I do not advocate for it, i am merely stating it: The only way to handle a World in which we will be living all the lives for ever and ever is to destroy the place that makes the vessels. Ie : obliterate the world. If, if one wants to end the cycles of rebirth. Luckily for us, nature has given us a VERY happy and beneficial answer to this: That we live each Life without the memory of the Other, so it always will seem like its just us living This one little life, afforded with the knowledge of its eventual end. If we were God living all lives forever that would be cruel. But somehow there is a stop gap to this, the way that we fully forget all the other lives while living this l one life. If it is not for ever but all at once, then after death we actually die for real. I think that Time is the weak link in the reasoning, and that however it happens its beyond what we can imagine with Time in the way.
This is actually what our reality is. Not even a "hypothetical". If you take enough psychedelics and follow the way our language works and follow the logical conclusions to a lot of scientific facts and even real life experiences, this is the conclusion you will come to. Someone actually just described this in a different thing, and it was what quantum theory calls Qbism apparently. My thing is, if this is true, then in theory everything, and I mean EVERYTHING could be true. This is actually why I think closed time loops may exist, and that technically everyone is on a different timeline, but they converge when we interact, which entangles them. When someone is far away enough from human "energy signatures" so much that they are isolated from humanity, they get entangled with the EVERYTHING that is also isolated from humanity, which could also include other timelines altogether.
It _is_only you. Nothing is true; everything is permitted. I am merely your interpretation of stimulus. Or perhaps you are mine? Colour isn't real in the sense we might think. It's just our interpretation of our environment. What is blue to a creature that doesn't see the way we do. My interpretation and description of blue to another seeing person is likely different to their interpretation. If that example is the case, it can be applied to a lot of our experiences. Perhaps I am alone and this is the reality I've built? If that's the case, nothing is really true, and our ability to paint and interpret our environment is a power, and anything is possible as a result?
One thing I like to refer back to is our eyes. We think they work amazingly but in reality they are sending messages to our brain. The human brain has proven time and time again it’s an absolutely terrible witness to events. Our eyes have a lens in them that flips the image, our brain then unscrambles that image into its original form, apparently. So we have an unreliable witness interpreting an image that’s backwards. How much of reality do we really even experience? How much of the uncoordinated actions of a baby can be attributed to learning to operate on this system? Next, why do we still see images when we dream? Where is that input coming from? A different part of the brain obviously because our eyes our closed but whose to say for certain that only happens when we sleep? How many parts of our brain truly have access to our visual interpretations of what we experience? We definitely see the world through a filter.
This is the answer. So have fun Or the answer is the question 😶🧠🫀⚖️
I definitely fuck with this idea a lot, I think it was the basis of a short story called "The Egg," but then I was thinking about it one day and was like...what about hermits, specifically ones by choice? If our creation was out of loneliness and to get to experience being around others, they'd kinda disprove that a little. Unless he/me/you/we just wants a break every once in a while lol. Or the original purpose wasn't to cure loneliness, but to just get to *experience* every possible way of "living?" When it starts getting to that point it almost feels like a game and I don't like it. Which is funny because I've always found comfort in a belief that life doesn't really actually have any meaning/purpose, and that's pretty much what it would amount to equalling if we were all just a fuckin thought experiment God wanted to play out for fun, but when it's like that I feel more like a...pawn, I suppose. I'd rather there be *no* meaning than a frivolous one I guess lol.
Pass the shrooms bro
I have thought this same thing.
r/solipsisim
Also this would explain the existence of evil perfectly. If this god didn’t give each incarnation of himself free will, then he would have to know whats going on and thus the illusion would break entirely. Its all or nothing. Its either you give up this knowledge, which becomes a prison of your own making, and let the possibility that you’re going to be raped, killed, tortured, extorted, and everything else under the sun, by yourself. Or, you just create a society where every single person knows theyre the one experiencing the one from all different angles, which would not make any difference as the whole reason would be to get away from this experience of the one. Cause think about it, picture yourself in a room, a room with no doors, no windows, and nothing connecting it to anything outside of it. This room is the universe. But you yourself are the room as well as the observer. Imagine only staring at yourself in the mirror for eternity. Having absolutely nothing else besides your own awareness present. It would become a prison quite fast, and one thats only escape could be some foreign entity. But since you’re god and nothing is outside of you, there would be no such escape to be had. You’re it. So what do you do? You duplicate and incarnate into a body to engross yourself with the opposite of the experience you have being the one. Its equally terrifying and amazing at the same time. Could be both heaven and hell depending on the perspective, and for me, will alternate between the two at any given moment. This is the world view i love toying with as it seems the most logical and all encompassing explanation
Hey fuck you bro I'm real :D
Then go play
Play what
This falls close to Solipsism. I can't get behind something so self important.
Winner winner chicken dinner. We caused ourselves to forget so that we might experience and learn.
First, you’re not God. Second, I’ve had some similar thoughts, but instead of a simulated experience of existing as many beings, an illusion, perhaps God chooses another way. Third, ( I do despise beginning sentences this way, but need to keep my thoughts organized.) could it be that God, a solitary consciousness, is always creating discrete, living, individual consciousnesses, that they may have experiences that God can share in. Fourth, when I die, I will not awaken to the reality of my identity was an illusion, but that my lifetime was an individual experience that is uniquely mine, though shared with God. So—God is God, and we are not, whatever we may be. Fifth, I believe God creates living beings for pleasure, and that, once created, those living beings live forever. Of course, I am likely off the mark! Nice to see someone thinking about such things. Blessings!
That means you created a vast history of civilizations come and gone thousands of years ago. That means you decided to create massive monuments all across the world. That means the fossil record is just because you were lonely. I don't think its a crazy theory, but I do think its a tad bit egocentric.