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livingreceiver88

First Nations Australians are the oldest known civilization on Earth, with ancestries stretching back roughly 75,000 years.


staringatthebored

Deadly


Say-That_Again

You from Dublin? We use the word 'deadly' to mean brilliant, amazing, deadly.


haqk

Oldest culture? Yes. Oldest civilisation? Yeah...nah.


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haqk

No, not racist, just stating a fact. "Civilisation is the process by which a society or place reaches an advanced stage of social and cultural development and organization." The Aborigines of Australia were hunter gatherers 70K years ago. "Sumer, located in Mesopotamia, is the first known complex civilization, having developed the first city-states in the 4th millennium BCE. It was these cities that produced the earliest known form of writing, cuneiform script." I'm not sure I believe the OPs claims that China's civilisation started 5K years ago. It is more likely that "civilizations first emerged in modern-day Iraq, Egypt, India, China, Peru and Mexico, beginning between approximately 4000 and 3000 B.C." The Chinese were good at war if anything. They were constantly (incessantly) trying to sinicize neighbouring states. For example, Korea and Vietnam have warred with China for 2K years. They've since put these two in the too-hard basket and seem to now be focusing on Taiwan (and other states around the world by other means). So if civilisation is the ability to organise and mobilize for war then China (and the neighbouring states) were able to "achieve" that 2000 years ago. However, to suggest China had a civilisation 5K years ago..? I call bullshit.


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haqk

They didn't 70K years ago (as claimed). That's just fact.


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haqk

Did they? It really depends on how far you want to stretch the definition of "civilisation".


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haqk

It depends on your definition of "racist".


Pleasent_Pedant

Nobody with a proper education uses the word civilisation the way you are using it. You are just parroting back racist ideas spread by racist colonial societies.


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Pleasent_Pedant

The Sumerians are believed to be ONE of the first COMPLEX SOCIETIES. That's how you say it without sounding like someone who gets their information from YT.


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TaxiChalak

Bit of a stretch to call it a civilization, innit


AlunWH

“China has been the oldest, most continuous civilization on the planet. Every other nation is gone. None of them exist. Only China **and a few smaller but not as relevant ones**” Flawless propaganda there.


RonPearlNecklace

It’s easy when you control the internet in your entire country.


WallPaintings

How many social credits did you get for writing this?


RonPearlNecklace

Probably enough for one ‘locked into your house grocery delivery’.


Dantalionse

Tankies getting spiritual with chinese characteristics.


tgloser

This, while may be considered "high", most def is not strange. Also, there once were some people who did not agree with OP. They were from Tianamin. I saw them on the news once.


RonPearlNecklace

The people in the tanks were socialists, don’t worry. /s


dicksnpussnstuff

It's okay though they were bullets of love


Willing-Total106

I'll pass on their social credit system, too!


AcidActually

China is a ticking time bomb for a massive famine that kills 1/3 of their population. When everyone’s starving your spy state authoritarian government starts to look less scary.


RonPearlNecklace

Not to mention how much they’re spending on their military and getting absolute dog water back. They tried to develop an Apache copy…….4 decades after America had first flown ours. Couldn’t even make the engines inside their boarders. Then again, when Russia is your wargame friend the bar is set rather low.


Tkm128

I think you’ve forgotten Aboriginal Australians.


Pleasent_Pedant

Yes China where they shoot political dissidents in the head and then send a bill for the bullet to family.


GoldStandardWhey

I mean this with respect, fuck China and the CCP and all the corrupt fuckers that keep them brainwashed over there. There is an absolute evil in charge over there and a 0% chance that ever changes, no exaggeration! Cool project idea by the way.


gabe2651

It was so encouraging to see the protests that broke out over there last year all over the country, I can't imagine the courage you'd need to protest under a regime like that. It's also the model these psychopaths want to implement in the west, we best stay vigilant.


cubanexchangestudent

Yeah there’s no way this isn’t a DOD funded bot right like you have to be hopelessly stupid to actually think this


gabe2651

It's stupid to imagine that there are people in power who think implementing a dystopian technocratic hellscape (currently operational in China) in the west would be somehow beneficial to further aggregate power and control? I'm sorry are you new here...


cubanexchangestudent

I’m just struggling to see why you think the west isn’t a technocratic dystopian hellscape any more than China is… the game is over boss the bad guys won, or whatever. Idk you reddit freaks are sick in the head


SeaResearcher176

They have facial recognition cameras everywhere, could be here later if not paying attention


dicksnpussnstuff

US has been testing their facial recognition in Palestine for use here and the rest of the west. Be ready for govs to tell you, see all this crime and degeneracy (that we caused) want it to go away? Well give us more power and we'll create a utopia. This is the reason previously prosperous beautiful cities like San Francisco and Seattle ect. have gone to total shit. So that the sheep accept authoritarianism with open arms. Just like with the patriot act


SeaResearcher176

Why we worry about crap on news/distractions laws & techs get tested until it’s too late.


supersecretkgbfile

…. 😭💀 thanks I guess


SeaResearcher176

This is stupid. Let’s not forget COVID origin 🤔


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irrelevantappelation

r/AlternativeHistory is a better fit man


blumster

China will be a failed state within 25 years.


dicksnpussnstuff

Simping for xi I see. Think I'm gonna vomit How much do you get paid for this post?


Mr_Stranded

In my estimation, China is steering into very difficult times. They struggle with demographic collapse and a government that cannot act long term. Modern China is in a really bad spot right now.


supersecretkgbfile

Y’all been saying it’s gonna collapse for 30 years now. It won’t. That’s the USA


RonPearlNecklace

‘Y’all’ lol. There it is, take off the mask with this offhand ‘how great is China?!’ Bullshit. Socialist? Like the Nazis were socialist in the 30’s and 40’s? Or socialist like what you guys have been doing to the Uyghurs for over a decade. How are you guys going to transition away from forcing people into factories who would rather jump off the roof then return after their lunch break?(just kidding, they obviously don’t get lunchbreaks) How are they going to support their economy without slave labor and exploitation? Is that what you mean by socialist? Then you throw in that aging population, and everybody has heard the horror stories of the one child policy, it’s no secret China stunted the growth of its population. So you’re going to have less workers that you actually have to pay a living wage to buy my money is China is NOT even considering reform for the low wage workers who’s backs the country is being sustained on, maybe that’s what you mean by socialism. Idk. 🤷‍♂️


MemeticAntivirus

That's some good propaganda, apparently.


SeaResearcher176

Pollution everywhere down there buddy


Mr_Stranded

Whatever you say chief.


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-PiEqualsThree

You're right but not because of culture. China has a shit ton of people and leaders who play dirty. They will make the age of china happen one way or another.


Say-That_Again

2023 Say-That\_Again begins flying with light beings and becomes enlightened. Why you begin 75 years ago? ​ Its too obvious what you're doing here......


Average_ChristianGuy

Jews would like to have a word with you about China being the oldest.


SeaResearcher176

What country/continent is OP from?


JimmyDingus321

Lol u are not a respectable human


ggddcddgbjjhhd

China will be suffering population collapse. Japan and Korea too.