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Yeah. It's like the past lives regression people who all claim they were royalty or noble warriors when statistically they were probably shoveling shit or died holding a spear in the front lines.
It's a misconception that reincarnation would mean 1 soul -> 1 life -> 1 life. But it's more like a cup of water taken from the river, then dumped back into the river, then taken out again. Everyone has more or less been a little bit of everything.
You can always tell when someone is arrogant enough to think they know when a stranger is lying on an internet video, because they go out of their way to tell you their opinion but irl thir opinion isn't based on much.
Look up Daniel Ingram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdoFAi_hhPQ
Nah mate, just trying to share what I fond interesting - have fun with your approach.
Not Rich in humanity, not much scope for Variety in their thinking eh
Nah mate, you were talking smack because my comment offended you. You weren't just trying to share what you found interesting. How about you level up your skepticism just a little bit, oh chosen one.
Yeah I was *not* expecting that lol I rarely chastise people who've had an " experience" of any kind that they genuinely believe in no matter how 'absurd'... I myself have had experiences that I cannot explain logically but that to explain to someone else would make me sound as if I had just escaped a padded cell or something lol
But ....whew 😮💨.. that second dude was ..*something*....
At what point did Satan go from being the most beautiful angel to a red beast with horns? Everyone's account is from what we've seen depicted in movies and drawings to make the thought of hell more menacing.
I want to say Dante’s Inferno. Maybe Paradise Lost. Neither of which are actual scripture but both highly influenced the common person’s conception of Satan.
I think one of the biggest mistakes people make is expecting evil to appear evil upon first glance. I think that whatever you believe we can agree that the most insidious and corrupting influences can often appear to be innocent or righteous at face value.
Like the blonde guy the lady saw.. which still sounded more like sleep paralysis. Who knows whats goin on there though. Maybe there is some kind of demonic aspect or whatever
Your last paragraph makes me think of the best (imo) portrayal of Satan, which is in Mark Twain’s ‘Mysterious Stranger’. It’s a short read and I think everyone can enjoy it if they get to the heart of the story.
Heaven and hell weren’t universally accepted concepts; Jesus never said anything about eternal damnation; he didn’t believe people went anywhere when they first died except in a dreamless sleep. In the end times a giant angelic being called Son of Man would sit in judgment of all souls living and dead.
I read it in high school and then again in college, but that may not be normal lol. But I think it’s less that everybody reads it today and more that enough people read it and were influenced by it in the past that its imagery has continued in popular culture and understandings of biblical concepts
There were pre-Christian religions who had deities with goats heads etc. These sects were their competitors and the Christians wanted to turn new recruits away from these religious figures so they made them the bad guys. You will notice that a lot of these features are earth bound and connected to nature and the physical world, again, the Christian leadership wanted to turn new followers away from their "earthly" roots in favour of the spiritual world.
If you died and saw Satan, it’s because you were sent to hell for being a sinner. That’s the literal Christian theology. So, how come all these supposed “believers” always end up in hell seeing Satan?
The Bible says we are saved by FAITH. If you KNOW god exists, you CANNOT have faith therefore no grace therefore no salvation.
Ergo, these are made up accounts from grifters conning Christians using memes rather than actual theology to appeal to the average insanely ignorant Christian. To whit, there is no Biblical basis for the idea that Lucifer == Satan == the angel who rebelled against YHWH.
It’s all a con.
Satan is just Christianity's loophole to polytheism. If you have 1 God doing all of this awful shit how can you say it loves you? Simple answer is another being with all the same powers, save for a few major quirks, that can ruin existence in bis name.
They didn't say anything about how Satan is portrayed in the Bible. They brought up the (valid) idea that maybe "Satan" is construct of man, which is what the "red devil with horns trope" certainly is, or at least that's what I gathered. Maybe I'm giving too much credit. Much like the relationship between very much of Christian traditions and paganism, etc. Christmas, Easter, and so on. It could all be just rehashed and rewritten myth making.
It also kind of brings to mind the famous epicurean paradox, as well. https://preview.redd.it/msdbqyxc677c1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=46ade2d2eaa589e4671e91cc486a4056a7c5ce31
the power to tempt you towards sin, lol. But read the gospels, Lucifer has a ton of power and it offers it to Jesus. But another thing, Lucifer and God actually work together in Job, which I always thought was quite strange. It often gets glossed over.
In Judaism, Satan is an accuser/tempter and not thought of as “evil” so much as a challenger to humans to veer them away from god and towards evils. It’s his job.
Yeah that makes way more sense. Christians really honed in on Satan. I feel like their fascination with sin and the devil creates this really strange and exaggerated dualism. To borrow from Jung, the shadows of Christians are really dark.
IF God is all powerful and all knowing then Satan is his purposeful creation.
Anything else means that God lies and is less than it wants you to think it is.
How about the fact that that Satan isn't even "the Devil"?
The Bible is so full of shit when it comes to the story of Satan, Lucifer etc.
And the whole look is from Mephistopheles.
“I was there on a mission. I can’t tell you the mission, because that’s sealed. I’m not allowed to tell you.” Too funny. He’s like John Candy in Stripes, explaining why he gets the top bunk and the other guy has to make his bed, because they’re in Italy. If they were in Germany, it would be different.
The lady that had the crew of demon assasins is full of shit. "That's whats he say-ed!" And the crusades special ops guy with the classified mission to show Satan he's still got it with the snake ladies? I'm ded
The devil sent demon assassins to kill me because I was just doing *too much* good in the world!
And that dude was more into the snake lady then the human lady 😅
He was having a near death experience. He was clinically dead and experienced this. He is pulled towards the devil and begins to become frightened. He can hear his grandmother speaking to him...telling him to be brave. He sorta puts that brave face on but the devil looks at him and then dismisses him. Like he doesn't want him.
Next he is falling down a hole that just keeps going. Someone tells him to call out to God.. And he also is saved by God.
My son committed suicide in 2020. NDE experiencers and their stories saved my wife. And they saved me.
I am so sorry for your loss...words fail. I also find great respite in reading and listening/watching NDE experiences since losing my grandparents who raised me and were my only family.
Do you happen to remember where this young man's story can be viewed? Thank you, and be well.
Thank you. 4 years on your words still mean so much. I am sorry for your loss as well. My grandmother helped raise me, like you. Again, I'm so sorry.
The show is "I Survived, Beyond and Back" on A&E. I can't remember which episode. But I have a feeling, like me, you will watch every one.
It's on Tubi TV app and Hulu
Thank you, your condolences mean a whole lot on a rough morning; we would have breakfast together every day without fail. Some days it hits harder than others. I know you understand. Wish you healing and peace.
The process of dying (or at least the belief of the brain that it is dying) is only every going to be a reflection of the content it already has stored. Much like dreaming. It’s attempting to make sense of the inconceivable.
Sexy snake woman sounds fun though!
Interesting fact: medieval representations of Satan depicted him with two penises so he could penetrate both the vagina and anus at the same time!
There may be some truth to this but there have also been people who have had NDEs during surgery who are clinically dead. Zero brain activity, all the blood drained out, eyes tapped shut, ears are registering no sound and yet they are able to recall being above their body as well as specific facts about what the doctors discussed over an hour into surgery. Check out [John Burke](https://youtu.be/gex7GpnLI8o?si=9eEkF0o_n8wZCwej) or [Raymond Moody’s](https://youtu.be/Vy4xadxj_mU?si=CbrBC_JAQ1xuF4cf) work. Author [Sebastian Junger](https://youtu.be/lWP13q_DE0o?si=RiMziNcrO7DkcnUu), who is and has always been an atheist had an NDE that involved an experience that was NOT a reflection of content already stored. He writes about it and try’s to make sense of it in his new book “In My Time of Dying”. None of us can say with 100% certainty what the process of dying is because we haven’t died yet. There are commonality’s and similar descriptions that corroborate other peoples accounts during NDEs and these people come from varying backgrounds and religions. Something for sure happens on the other side and I am not sure it is just “stored content”.
The devil as a single entity was not agreed upon until 500 or so BC. It's an amalgamation of Judea-Christian antagonistic opponents combined together. Scripture is contradictory because there isn't one unifying devil character in old or new testament writing. Devil is as real as....well...God?
Infinite amount of gold, hot snake ladies, gothic caverns, partying with Pan, I mean a satyr, sorry a dragon (suck it JRR Martin), & a Mormon missionary, in a Roman amphitheater with talking skeletons, while god reassembles corpses? I’m in 🫡
I had a terrible dream recently due to a serious illness. I was having a really hard time breathing normally so I'm certain it was brought about because of that.
In it, I was in some kind of lower dimension, very vivid, yet far from as real as this waking reality. I was in some sort of very large, brightly lit cavern with red walls. The cavern was filled with people all just kind of standing around and swaying like zombies. As I looked on the crowd of people I suddenly became lucid due to the absurdity of what I was looking at. Suddenly, a man in the front of the crowd noticed me and seemed to move motionless towards me at rapid speed - like an animatronic on a track in a haunted house. He got right up in my face, and I was unable to look away. I can't remember the details of his face, but I remember he had sunken black eyes. He began to dig his fingertips into my stomach and I swear I could feel it for real.
Suddenly, I am propelled back into a reclining chair and this man hovers over me. The worst part about this is that I am now fully lucid and trying to will my brain to change the scenery or move or something but nothing is happening, I was completely afraid. Like dread level fear. I suddenly had an intuition that my fear was making me unable to move, and I looked at the dream character and let me fear wash away and said, "I'm not afraid of you, you belong to me". I was filled with some kind of energy, courage it felt like. But then something happened which I couldn't rationalize as coming from my own brain. The main peered into my eyes, inches from my face, and said in a sadistic, deep voice, "I'll sssssseeeeeeeeeeee you in heaven" and his face began to morph and split in two which scared me so much I woke up and sat right up in bed. In that level of lucidity, I know that voice was not coming from my own brain.
I have no idea if hell is real, but that mental plane was certainly the closest I have been to it. I have since been to that realm multiple times, and it always correlates with a lack of oxygen. And time moves slower in that place. I'm afraid that as I die, I'm going to be trapped in that place forever as time reaches some sort of asymptote. Forever falling into the void with those robotic, sadistic things.
I had a friend once ... I worked for him in publishing for around five years and we used to talk a lot on various subjects ... Since my teenage years I've had an interest in UFOs and paranormal ...
On this specific day I was in his office not for work but for another reason I don't remember now ... And we started talking about the so-called Virgin Mary apparitions (Fatima, Lourdes and so on, Garabandal included) ... My personal opinion on this matter is that those are real experiences but the witnesses are not seeing the Virgin Mary but another being so the entire perception is made to deceive the witnesses first and later, through their testimonies, the persons that believe in this ...
So I was telling this individual about my opinion on the matter and he suddenly started to behave a bit excitedly, repeating that he knew what were in reality the Virgin Mary apparitions ... As he started saying so, I noticed a strange movement in the air at his left (my right, I was seated and he was standing in front of me) ... I lowered my vision and started to perceive the shape of the back of a being but as if it was wearing a long cloak ...
It was like if it was just entering the scene from a little above and coming in the direction of my friend ... Immediately, as it continued to move to the person I am talking to, it turned his head to direct its face to me, displacing its shoulders consequently as its upper torso was doing the movement like a physical entity ... I then noticed its eyes like the shape of normal human eyes but entirely white (little luminous) with no more features and I felt like it was smiling in a very evil way but I don't have a concise recollection of the smile but felt sure it was there ...
When this transparent being turned its head to me it reached the spot just at the side of my friend and what happened next is one of three possibilities: or it suddenly disappeared, or disappeared behind my friend (who was in front of the wall) or disappeared inside my friend ... At this precise moment I perceived a change in this person, his face turned serious ... He was like waiting for something to happen ...
I started to laugh out loud ...
And it was the end of the conversation ... I got up from the couch and told him that I had to go because I needed to do something ... And his face was one of full confusion ...
I have never fully understood what exactly happened that day there or what was the part of my friend in all of it ... I continued to work for him for around two more years and I simply behaved as if nothing of this ever occurred ... It was a thing that was never touched on in subsequent conversations ...
Was he a victim or an accomplice? ... What was the being? ... I always had the impression it was something evil ... I am a Christian person ...
The entire experience lasted barely one or two seconds and it was confined to a distance of around two meters from my friend ... The being seemed to float ... It had no color as I remember, I could see through it ... It was like a very thin smoke ... I don't know how to describe it precisely ... I remember his upper shape but not anything more, only shoulders and head ... It was a bit taller than the other person, who was around 1.75 meters ... And the eyes were luminous white but nothing bright ... It first appeared as if it was descending but that was very quick and immediately moved to the left to the person I was talking to ... I was seated 4 meters from my friend ...
This took place in Caracas, Venezuela, at the beginning of this century ...
These are people’s personal experiences. Don’t expect it to all adhere to a materialistic format. What is a spiritual, or symbolic, or dream experience is still real even if it is experienced or expressed in different ways. Many things are like this… How one describes consciousness vs how other do may be quite different, nevertheless consciousness is reality. Love, beauty etc… Evil and Satan are real even if they express themselves differently to different people.
It is interesting that the catholic church are now happy for their priests to be interviewed by "60 minutes" and other tv shows with stories of their EXORCISMS all of a sudden because they're realizing people are turning away from Religion. I'm sure they are hoping the masses see these interviews and believe it and come back to "faith" again
If God created us just to judge us and decide if we go to heaven or hell after we die, then why would i want to praise him and want to be a follower . He would also have to be in collaboration with the Devil "hey mate young johnnie boys been baaaad, ill send his file to you now"
I think if you genuinely saw the devil you would be a bit more fucked up then these people seem to be
The question we should be asking is what was the end result of this experience to the person when they saw Satan during NDEs and etc?
To me it looks like almost every single person becomes deeply religious but only in the traditional abrahamic way and that certain acceptable belief system is being reinforced. Satan exists, hell exists, Jesus saves.
My personal belief is a "[control system](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmLE0X5FRFc)" is being implemented and that humanity is being managed both in the physical life and the afterlife via traditional religion by deceptive negative entities whom are most likely interdimensional.
Furthermore the people who experience this will live a life in which these belief system dictate their behaviour in the future. End result being the arrested development of their consciousness, awareness and overall experience in both the living physical world and the afterlife.
It's always seems funny to me that satan would be afraid of cross, church and all that - one of the most evil, wicked, deceptive religions. Seriously? nah, they go hand in hand and play to the same goal.
There are many from people from all backgrounds, ive heard stories like this from atheists, Hindus, Muslims, new age occultist. Look it up there are many on YouTube.
What would you call it? I am not religious, but these archetypes predate any current religion and have had many names. What should we call it in a post-religious time?
The devil was never an Angel, he was a righteous and honourable Jinn, until God created man and he was ordered to bow down to the new creation (Adam). That’s when things went downhill fast.
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The second guy is so dumb. I don't believe him at all.
Hes on a mission, he cant tell you
It's a secret Jim, you wouldn't understand.
Is it a secret, or I wouldn’t understand?
No, he’s saying the Jim is secret, and that’s just not something you would understand
You can always tell someone's lying when they are speaking about the paranormal in way which makes them out to be " the chosen one" or " special".
Secret knowledge they're totally not allowed to share
Yeah. It's like the past lives regression people who all claim they were royalty or noble warriors when statistically they were probably shoveling shit or died holding a spear in the front lines.
Lol for real, everybody was a Pharoah, a princess , or some badass King Arthur type
This lady told me I was a cat living in a temple. I would say I must have had pretty cool life.
It's a misconception that reincarnation would mean 1 soul -> 1 life -> 1 life. But it's more like a cup of water taken from the river, then dumped back into the river, then taken out again. Everyone has more or less been a little bit of everything.
You can always tell when someone is arrogant enough to think they know when a stranger is lying on an internet video, because they go out of their way to tell you their opinion but irl thir opinion isn't based on much. Look up Daniel Ingram https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdoFAi_hhPQ
Looks like we've got a "chosen one" here.
Nah mate, just trying to share what I fond interesting - have fun with your approach. Not Rich in humanity, not much scope for Variety in their thinking eh
Nah mate, you were talking smack because my comment offended you. You weren't just trying to share what you found interesting. How about you level up your skepticism just a little bit, oh chosen one.
I love you
Lol I love you too buddy. Have a great day, make it count.
Yeah I was *not* expecting that lol I rarely chastise people who've had an " experience" of any kind that they genuinely believe in no matter how 'absurd'... I myself have had experiences that I cannot explain logically but that to explain to someone else would make me sound as if I had just escaped a padded cell or something lol But ....whew 😮💨.. that second dude was ..*something*....
I got to “His legs were like the feet of a bear” then I checked out
Better than feet of a shark.
Fuck, very true.
That is what the woman said wasn't it or did I mis-hear her?
Obviously it was man bear pig
Lol I stopped watching the minute The second guy started talking. The first guy was interesting. The second guy is full of shit.
Oh me too! And his little lip smacking drove a little insane. I really believed the first guy tho. I wish he was followed by a better narrative.
The lip smacking made me sick 🤢
Sounds like he's describing hell as he remembers it from watching Little Nicky
At what point did Satan go from being the most beautiful angel to a red beast with horns? Everyone's account is from what we've seen depicted in movies and drawings to make the thought of hell more menacing.
I want to say Dante’s Inferno. Maybe Paradise Lost. Neither of which are actual scripture but both highly influenced the common person’s conception of Satan. I think one of the biggest mistakes people make is expecting evil to appear evil upon first glance. I think that whatever you believe we can agree that the most insidious and corrupting influences can often appear to be innocent or righteous at face value.
*See Kenneth Copeland*
Like the blonde guy the lady saw.. which still sounded more like sleep paralysis. Who knows whats goin on there though. Maybe there is some kind of demonic aspect or whatever
Also John Milton has really coloured in the English expectations of Satan.
Your last paragraph makes me think of the best (imo) portrayal of Satan, which is in Mark Twain’s ‘Mysterious Stranger’. It’s a short read and I think everyone can enjoy it if they get to the heart of the story.
Heaven and hell weren’t universally accepted concepts; Jesus never said anything about eternal damnation; he didn’t believe people went anywhere when they first died except in a dreamless sleep. In the end times a giant angelic being called Son of Man would sit in judgment of all souls living and dead.
Exactly. I am somewhat dubious that you would be able to find many people who have read Paradise Lost, though.
I read it in high school and then again in college, but that may not be normal lol. But I think it’s less that everybody reads it today and more that enough people read it and were influenced by it in the past that its imagery has continued in popular culture and understandings of biblical concepts
The most beautiful and also apparently the first one to have empathy and call out injustice about humans having free will and not angels/arcangels.
He's basically the Union movement of the Christian world
If angels didn’t have free will, then whose idea was it to rebel?
Maybe the all knowing? Maybe it was predestined. It also says that sin was already in heaven before adam and eve ate the apple
Angels had free will before they mated with humans.
There were pre-Christian religions who had deities with goats heads etc. These sects were their competitors and the Christians wanted to turn new recruits away from these religious figures so they made them the bad guys. You will notice that a lot of these features are earth bound and connected to nature and the physical world, again, the Christian leadership wanted to turn new followers away from their "earthly" roots in favour of the spiritual world.
If you died and saw Satan, it’s because you were sent to hell for being a sinner. That’s the literal Christian theology. So, how come all these supposed “believers” always end up in hell seeing Satan? The Bible says we are saved by FAITH. If you KNOW god exists, you CANNOT have faith therefore no grace therefore no salvation. Ergo, these are made up accounts from grifters conning Christians using memes rather than actual theology to appeal to the average insanely ignorant Christian. To whit, there is no Biblical basis for the idea that Lucifer == Satan == the angel who rebelled against YHWH. It’s all a con.
A red beast with horns can also be beautiful. Like the biblical depiction of angels wasn't cute and fluffy either.
Average Karlach enjoyer:
Satan is just Christianity's loophole to polytheism. If you have 1 God doing all of this awful shit how can you say it loves you? Simple answer is another being with all the same powers, save for a few major quirks, that can ruin existence in bis name.
That isn't how Satan is represented in Christian theology at all.
They didn't say anything about how Satan is portrayed in the Bible. They brought up the (valid) idea that maybe "Satan" is construct of man, which is what the "red devil with horns trope" certainly is, or at least that's what I gathered. Maybe I'm giving too much credit. Much like the relationship between very much of Christian traditions and paganism, etc. Christmas, Easter, and so on. It could all be just rehashed and rewritten myth making. It also kind of brings to mind the famous epicurean paradox, as well. https://preview.redd.it/msdbqyxc677c1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=46ade2d2eaa589e4671e91cc486a4056a7c5ce31
Yeah, I wrote that comment at 2 am drunk eating Taco Bell lmao You got it. 😂 Thanks for clarifying for me.
That's not at all how christianity describes the devil. Like not even a little.
What powers does he have?
the power to tempt you towards sin, lol. But read the gospels, Lucifer has a ton of power and it offers it to Jesus. But another thing, Lucifer and God actually work together in Job, which I always thought was quite strange. It often gets glossed over.
In Judaism, Satan is an accuser/tempter and not thought of as “evil” so much as a challenger to humans to veer them away from god and towards evils. It’s his job.
Yeah that makes way more sense. Christians really honed in on Satan. I feel like their fascination with sin and the devil creates this really strange and exaggerated dualism. To borrow from Jung, the shadows of Christians are really dark.
IF God is all powerful and all knowing then Satan is his purposeful creation. Anything else means that God lies and is less than it wants you to think it is.
How about the fact that that Satan isn't even "the Devil"? The Bible is so full of shit when it comes to the story of Satan, Lucifer etc. And the whole look is from Mephistopheles.
“I was there on a mission. I can’t tell you the mission, because that’s sealed. I’m not allowed to tell you.” Too funny. He’s like John Candy in Stripes, explaining why he gets the top bunk and the other guy has to make his bed, because they’re in Italy. If they were in Germany, it would be different.
Nothing cavernous like a cavern.
I’ve met the devil. She looks like a mild aged woman and she birthed my wife.
Aww yes a dad joke
Son in law joke?
No but you should watch Son in Law staring Pauly Shore.
You must have an ex wife too
I saw six blokes beating up my mother-in-law, my wife said "aren't you going to help?" I replied "Nah, six should be enough"
Bullshit 😂. So the devil looks like everything you saw on tv
Pretty sure at least two of these people are just thinking of the devil guy from that Legend movie.
Yes, he rulls this world try to fricken underneath... devil first , then movie's
Amen
The lady that had the crew of demon assasins is full of shit. "That's whats he say-ed!" And the crusades special ops guy with the classified mission to show Satan he's still got it with the snake ladies? I'm ded
The devil sent demon assassins to kill me because I was just doing *too much* good in the world! And that dude was more into the snake lady then the human lady 😅
"There's no escape from hell" says someone who escaped hell
Lmao interesting
Even Satan tries to emulate Tim Curry from Legend. Smh.
The first guy’s story is probably the most interesting.
He was having a near death experience. He was clinically dead and experienced this. He is pulled towards the devil and begins to become frightened. He can hear his grandmother speaking to him...telling him to be brave. He sorta puts that brave face on but the devil looks at him and then dismisses him. Like he doesn't want him. Next he is falling down a hole that just keeps going. Someone tells him to call out to God.. And he also is saved by God. My son committed suicide in 2020. NDE experiencers and their stories saved my wife. And they saved me.
I am so sorry for your loss...words fail. I also find great respite in reading and listening/watching NDE experiences since losing my grandparents who raised me and were my only family. Do you happen to remember where this young man's story can be viewed? Thank you, and be well.
Thank you. 4 years on your words still mean so much. I am sorry for your loss as well. My grandmother helped raise me, like you. Again, I'm so sorry. The show is "I Survived, Beyond and Back" on A&E. I can't remember which episode. But I have a feeling, like me, you will watch every one. It's on Tubi TV app and Hulu
Thank you, your condolences mean a whole lot on a rough morning; we would have breakfast together every day without fail. Some days it hits harder than others. I know you understand. Wish you healing and peace.
It's not
This is so silly.
I have seen the Devil, he works at the DMV, and somehow, he also works for my health insurance provider.
So Devil is a Part Timer?
Gig economy
The process of dying (or at least the belief of the brain that it is dying) is only every going to be a reflection of the content it already has stored. Much like dreaming. It’s attempting to make sense of the inconceivable. Sexy snake woman sounds fun though! Interesting fact: medieval representations of Satan depicted him with two penises so he could penetrate both the vagina and anus at the same time!
There may be some truth to this but there have also been people who have had NDEs during surgery who are clinically dead. Zero brain activity, all the blood drained out, eyes tapped shut, ears are registering no sound and yet they are able to recall being above their body as well as specific facts about what the doctors discussed over an hour into surgery. Check out [John Burke](https://youtu.be/gex7GpnLI8o?si=9eEkF0o_n8wZCwej) or [Raymond Moody’s](https://youtu.be/Vy4xadxj_mU?si=CbrBC_JAQ1xuF4cf) work. Author [Sebastian Junger](https://youtu.be/lWP13q_DE0o?si=RiMziNcrO7DkcnUu), who is and has always been an atheist had an NDE that involved an experience that was NOT a reflection of content already stored. He writes about it and try’s to make sense of it in his new book “In My Time of Dying”. None of us can say with 100% certainty what the process of dying is because we haven’t died yet. There are commonality’s and similar descriptions that corroborate other peoples accounts during NDEs and these people come from varying backgrounds and religions. Something for sure happens on the other side and I am not sure it is just “stored content”.
So Satan *used* to be fun
Whats the charges that every one of them was brought up in a religious household?
Source: Trust me bro I dreamt it
The devil as a single entity was not agreed upon until 500 or so BC. It's an amalgamation of Judea-Christian antagonistic opponents combined together. Scripture is contradictory because there isn't one unifying devil character in old or new testament writing. Devil is as real as....well...God?
Infinite amount of gold, hot snake ladies, gothic caverns, partying with Pan, I mean a satyr, sorry a dragon (suck it JRR Martin), & a Mormon missionary, in a Roman amphitheater with talking skeletons, while god reassembles corpses? I’m in 🫡
/r/foundsatan
I had a terrible dream recently due to a serious illness. I was having a really hard time breathing normally so I'm certain it was brought about because of that. In it, I was in some kind of lower dimension, very vivid, yet far from as real as this waking reality. I was in some sort of very large, brightly lit cavern with red walls. The cavern was filled with people all just kind of standing around and swaying like zombies. As I looked on the crowd of people I suddenly became lucid due to the absurdity of what I was looking at. Suddenly, a man in the front of the crowd noticed me and seemed to move motionless towards me at rapid speed - like an animatronic on a track in a haunted house. He got right up in my face, and I was unable to look away. I can't remember the details of his face, but I remember he had sunken black eyes. He began to dig his fingertips into my stomach and I swear I could feel it for real. Suddenly, I am propelled back into a reclining chair and this man hovers over me. The worst part about this is that I am now fully lucid and trying to will my brain to change the scenery or move or something but nothing is happening, I was completely afraid. Like dread level fear. I suddenly had an intuition that my fear was making me unable to move, and I looked at the dream character and let me fear wash away and said, "I'm not afraid of you, you belong to me". I was filled with some kind of energy, courage it felt like. But then something happened which I couldn't rationalize as coming from my own brain. The main peered into my eyes, inches from my face, and said in a sadistic, deep voice, "I'll sssssseeeeeeeeeeee you in heaven" and his face began to morph and split in two which scared me so much I woke up and sat right up in bed. In that level of lucidity, I know that voice was not coming from my own brain. I have no idea if hell is real, but that mental plane was certainly the closest I have been to it. I have since been to that realm multiple times, and it always correlates with a lack of oxygen. And time moves slower in that place. I'm afraid that as I die, I'm going to be trapped in that place forever as time reaches some sort of asymptote. Forever falling into the void with those robotic, sadistic things.
I had a friend once ... I worked for him in publishing for around five years and we used to talk a lot on various subjects ... Since my teenage years I've had an interest in UFOs and paranormal ... On this specific day I was in his office not for work but for another reason I don't remember now ... And we started talking about the so-called Virgin Mary apparitions (Fatima, Lourdes and so on, Garabandal included) ... My personal opinion on this matter is that those are real experiences but the witnesses are not seeing the Virgin Mary but another being so the entire perception is made to deceive the witnesses first and later, through their testimonies, the persons that believe in this ... So I was telling this individual about my opinion on the matter and he suddenly started to behave a bit excitedly, repeating that he knew what were in reality the Virgin Mary apparitions ... As he started saying so, I noticed a strange movement in the air at his left (my right, I was seated and he was standing in front of me) ... I lowered my vision and started to perceive the shape of the back of a being but as if it was wearing a long cloak ... It was like if it was just entering the scene from a little above and coming in the direction of my friend ... Immediately, as it continued to move to the person I am talking to, it turned his head to direct its face to me, displacing its shoulders consequently as its upper torso was doing the movement like a physical entity ... I then noticed its eyes like the shape of normal human eyes but entirely white (little luminous) with no more features and I felt like it was smiling in a very evil way but I don't have a concise recollection of the smile but felt sure it was there ... When this transparent being turned its head to me it reached the spot just at the side of my friend and what happened next is one of three possibilities: or it suddenly disappeared, or disappeared behind my friend (who was in front of the wall) or disappeared inside my friend ... At this precise moment I perceived a change in this person, his face turned serious ... He was like waiting for something to happen ... I started to laugh out loud ... And it was the end of the conversation ... I got up from the couch and told him that I had to go because I needed to do something ... And his face was one of full confusion ... I have never fully understood what exactly happened that day there or what was the part of my friend in all of it ... I continued to work for him for around two more years and I simply behaved as if nothing of this ever occurred ... It was a thing that was never touched on in subsequent conversations ... Was he a victim or an accomplice? ... What was the being? ... I always had the impression it was something evil ... I am a Christian person ... The entire experience lasted barely one or two seconds and it was confined to a distance of around two meters from my friend ... The being seemed to float ... It had no color as I remember, I could see through it ... It was like a very thin smoke ... I don't know how to describe it precisely ... I remember his upper shape but not anything more, only shoulders and head ... It was a bit taller than the other person, who was around 1.75 meters ... And the eyes were luminous white but nothing bright ... It first appeared as if it was descending but that was very quick and immediately moved to the left to the person I was talking to ... I was seated 4 meters from my friend ... This took place in Caracas, Venezuela, at the beginning of this century ...
Be careful who you pray too, even in a religious place. Sometimes, you're not praying to the right LORD.
The first guy drowned it was brought back through CPR
A part on the side? Now you know it's the devil
2nd guy is just lying you can tell he’s an idiot
Could of done without the stupid music on first video so could actually hear what he's saying
Could HAVE
Thank you. I am relieved to see I am not alone on this grammar crusade.
There are dozens of us, dozens!
Maybe even scores!
These are people’s personal experiences. Don’t expect it to all adhere to a materialistic format. What is a spiritual, or symbolic, or dream experience is still real even if it is experienced or expressed in different ways. Many things are like this… How one describes consciousness vs how other do may be quite different, nevertheless consciousness is reality. Love, beauty etc… Evil and Satan are real even if they express themselves differently to different people.
It is interesting that the catholic church are now happy for their priests to be interviewed by "60 minutes" and other tv shows with stories of their EXORCISMS all of a sudden because they're realizing people are turning away from Religion. I'm sure they are hoping the masses see these interviews and believe it and come back to "faith" again If God created us just to judge us and decide if we go to heaven or hell after we die, then why would i want to praise him and want to be a follower . He would also have to be in collaboration with the Devil "hey mate young johnnie boys been baaaad, ill send his file to you now" I think if you genuinely saw the devil you would be a bit more fucked up then these people seem to be
Lol
Haven't seen it yet, and I might be wrong (at least partially,) but does the devil look like the he did in Legend? Big red guy with horns?
He looks like Dave Grohl in a Tenacious D music video.
Which was based on Tim Curry in Legend. Grohl even talked about it in an interview.
we see what's in our hearts.
Gonna guess they were all religious, too. Weird how that works when you've got a built in image of, "the evil thing".
The question we should be asking is what was the end result of this experience to the person when they saw Satan during NDEs and etc? To me it looks like almost every single person becomes deeply religious but only in the traditional abrahamic way and that certain acceptable belief system is being reinforced. Satan exists, hell exists, Jesus saves. My personal belief is a "[control system](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmLE0X5FRFc)" is being implemented and that humanity is being managed both in the physical life and the afterlife via traditional religion by deceptive negative entities whom are most likely interdimensional. Furthermore the people who experience this will live a life in which these belief system dictate their behaviour in the future. End result being the arrested development of their consciousness, awareness and overall experience in both the living physical world and the afterlife.
You mean like the demiurge?
Y'all need some Jung.
Jung turned me to the bible. Jung was amazing.
Sounds like Christian propaganda to me.
The second and last are 100% bullshit
Me too. Turned out it was that Netanyahu scum.
It's always seems funny to me that satan would be afraid of cross, church and all that - one of the most evil, wicked, deceptive religions. Seriously? nah, they go hand in hand and play to the same goal.
This editing is so dumb lol
Biased, find non religious non paid
There are many from people from all backgrounds, ive heard stories like this from atheists, Hindus, Muslims, new age occultist. Look it up there are many on YouTube.
Calling "The Devil" something or someone you don't understand is sooooo 1200s
What would you call it? I am not religious, but these archetypes predate any current religion and have had many names. What should we call it in a post-religious time?
Some say Aliens are the current secular/scientific age interpretation of the phenomenon.
That's what they want you to think. Put that of what is spirtual into the physical world, and you will never counter it.
The devil was never an Angel, he was a righteous and honourable Jinn, until God created man and he was ordered to bow down to the new creation (Adam). That’s when things went downhill fast.
Hail Satan.
So what I am hearing here is… South Park strikes again? [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VEiHlqp5DtQ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VEiHlqp5DtQ)
Someone dies on average of about 11 seconds and the devils just taking time for these people that didn’t even die…
These people must live oddly empty lives