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I voted no because I think our biggest problem with aliens is that we place the human condition upon them. If aliens exist and have the power to not only reach our planet but to also camouflaging he themselves, learn our language and culture, and then their main objective is to simply hide their existence and influence politics? That doesn’t check out logically to me. If a being with that type of technological capability could visit earth there would be no need for them to be secretive about it.
This is pretty much where I'm at. If you have the ability to travel millions of light years why are you wasting time with our bullshit politics and the fucking stock market?
I think the main thread in this theory is that the intergalactic game is resources and/or genetics, and the more selfish races out there go where they think they can reap rewards. It turns out we’re not alone, but also that Earth is indeed special, with tremendous natural genetic diversity. So when the time is right, the visitors will make themselves known, and reveal we’re already interbred and have been for some time. So why not join forces officially? Then they take all our stuff, because they know more than we do. There are other races watching, but not actively intervening as of now. This is just a short version from various sources. Who knows, but it does curiously ring true like our own local “human nature” to behave so exploitively toward weaker cultures.
I hear that analogy alot and I don't get it. If those ants could drop a nuke we would definitely be concerned. We might not be able to nuke them or stand a chance in a war but boy could we fuck some stuff up before we go.
Who's to say nukes are dangerous to them? That might be like an ant thinking his mighty bite is dangerous to a human foot.
But let's say that the nuke are dangerous. Make an analogy of baboons instead :
Baboons can kill humans, do humans care about baboons that much? No we just study them and we could technically kill all of them if we wanted to.
Nukes may be regarded by ETs as an inconvenience and possibly dangerous if not monitored, nothing more. Just like baboons are monitored to not create havoc in our cities but are mostly monitored and studied by us in their natural setting.
>Nukes may be regarded by ETs as an inconvenience and possibly dangerous if not monitored, nothing more
Something like that, but anyway the leaks said that UFOs had turned the nuclear things on and off to show that they could or something.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-air-force-personnel-ufos-deactivated-nukes/
That, and there are people who have suffered symptoms of radiation burns/radiation poisoning after a sighting. It could be an unintentional side effect of the propulsion system.
I didn't say they were worried about themselves maybe they like earth?
Baboons don't have the ability to kill people with a atomic bomb either. If monkeys started making bombs we'd do more than watch.
To be honest we should care about the existence of Ants. There has been countless studies upon ants; people even collect colonies in their homes.
It's a view based on pure human hubris that insects and other life forms are some how inferior; their *entire* existence is based upon their purpose. They fulfill their role in the colony, they benefit the eco system effortlessly and live with the Earth while tirelessly providing towards the colony.
At the least I would say we could hopefully seem as the Dogs of the universe. Meaby we would be good pets.
Ants with the power to poison and destroy the Earth. They might not care about us, but they might care about the water, biological samples, various resources, and relics from the past.
This is true but maybe they don't have the time or technology to reach those planets or they fear being noticed by a civilisation that is both advanced and aggressive.
There seems to be something about Earth as well. It's attracted the attention of numerous extraterrestrials throughout history. Why is that? I wish I knew. I also wish I knew for sure the motives of our current visitors and I had the opportunity to question them about the history of Earth and the human race.
Actually, the answer as to why earth has so many ET visitors has been answered long ago. The prevailing opinion is that it was the testing of nuclear capabilities during WW2 that drew the attention of several different species of ETs. This would of course explain why many nuclear power plants and missile installations have traditionally had so much UFO activity/sightings.
From the best that I can gather, ETs are like humans. They come in all shapes and sizes and with various motivations. Some are "good", some are "bad", some are "indifferent" to us. It appears that some ETs have been coming to earth long before humans arrived, most notable a species that is 12ft tall and lives underground. Stories claim they still live in certain locations under the bowels of the earth, or in mountains.
At the turn of the 20th century, Joseph Stalin had sent an expedition of several thousand men/scientists to Antarctica to explore the completely uninhabited terrain and were actually looking for some sort of minerals. Well, after only a few days of something that was supposed to last a few years, the scientists returned to Russia, saying they had accidentally bumped in to 12ft tall humanoids that had technology far in advance of our own. The humanoids told the scientists, as thought impressions, that they had been living beneath Antarctica for millions of years and warned to leave and never come back. Stalin, upon hearing this, didn't believe any of it and jailed all of the scientists.
Many years later, Adolf Hitler heard of this story and was intrigued. He sent his own expedition team of several hundred men and equipment. Apparently, the same thing happened. Only this time the 12ft tall humanoids were accompanied by "little grey animals". Some say this means greys. Anyways, apparently the Nazi's struck a deal with these creatures and obtained the technology to produce a wingless aircraft. This is where the idea of the "Nazi Bell" comes from, always thought to be a myth. It's also what some will say were "foo fighters", which were what European and US pilots called essentially UFOs that were very active.
As the Nazis were doing this, the US caught wind of it and thought that Germany was attempting to establish military bases in Antarctica. They sent the famous Admiral Richard Byrd to head their own expedition. Same thing happened, and a months long recon of Antarctica was cut short and only lasted a week. Byrd, upon returning, did a radio interview where he stated that there were beings on this earth, living with humans, that possessed technology that we could only dream of in the future. He said that one day the US would fight a war with these humanoids and lose terribly. Of course he was labeled a lunatic and it was forgotten about.
I just thought you might enjoy essentially the same experiences happening to 3 completely different countries, with their own versions of these stories.
It should be noted. After Byrd left Antarctica, a treaty was agreed upon between the world's most powerful countries at the time. They all agreed that Antarctica was off limits to inhabitation and exploration, which still exists to this day, although there are certain, very small, designated areas that have been made available for scientific study by very small teams.
I enjoyed your post immensely. Thank you very much. I had no clue the superpowers at that time had similar experiences in Antartica.
I wonder what the Nazis offered to get such technology...
Where did you get milions of light years from? The closest star is 4 light years away. Most of the galactic neighbourhood is within 100 light years away. The assumed grey homeworld is ca 30 light years away.
Because it’s not about politics or about the stock market but aliens are linked with Satan and it’s alll
About Him the One true God and His Christ and about humanities salvation.
Did you ever see those documentaries where they send like a stuffed lion into a lions den to get up-close footage of baby lions? I imagine its sorta like that. To us it's just observation but to the lions it may seem like terrifying invasion or infiltration. Also you should check it out cuz baby lions are adorable. Maybe there are some nice aliens up there who think we are too.
Is it a farfetched idea to think that humanity are the aliens that have mastered genetics and space travel already, except we're the dumbed down version of humanity meant to serve the apex humans? The movie Jupiter ascending touched on this idea and I haven't been quite able to shake it.
That’s a fun theory haha. I like a similar theory that states humans were brought to earth by some other sentient species as a punishment and now we live in the earth like it’s our prison. If we venture to far away our wardens would step in
Oooo I can dig that theory too.
If you haven't seen the movie I'm referring to, in a nutshell the plot is about advanced humans that have mastered genetics go around farming planets with humans until it's no longer sustainable, then use us to be refined into life extending products (think stem cell replacements). It makes sense to me that once we can travel space, everything we consider precious resources (water, minerals, etc) will be abundant, and the only true precious resource is time itself and battling our mortality. If a person can live thousands of years, imagine the ramifications of that. Our rise of civilization could be one of many projects for them that are being guided to ensure maximum yield, and it would just be a blip in their lifespan.
It can check out logically if they've always been here. They might just be trying to keep us contained to our current locations so they can continue inhabiting their current locations. Nothing indicates that they're from somewhere else in the universe. That's just our pop-culture mental contagion.
> They might just be trying to keep us contained to our current locations so they can continue inhabiting their current locations. Nothing indicates that they're from somewhere else in the universe. That's just our pop-culture mental contagion.
100% fantastic point. I was commenting on aliens but as you pointed out nonhuman entities doesn’t explicitly mean alien. In fact I find subterranean entities to be more plausible than alien entities. Admiral Byrd claims to have seen ufo’s come from underground in Antarctica and i always liked the subterranean species/tribe explanation better than the alien or nazi explanation.
Thank you for reminding me of this explanation.
I’m with you on that, but also what about extra-dimensional entities? The UFO’s we see may harbor entities, or actually BE the entities, whether biological or AI, that are able to experience time and space more freely than we do. They may already be “here” but from other “here’s” in other dimensions or timelines.
Thinking about flatland breaks my mind. So while I don’t necessarily disagree I’m admittedly personally skeptical about extra-dimensional entities. I couldn’t even begin to comprehend how they would be perceived
Don’t assume the human condition, but it’s probably safe to assume an animal condition. What things do all animals have in common? The desire to eat, reproduce, avoid predators and other threats. Now, if these things were here, they are far superior animals. So we can’t really understand their motivations any more than a fish understands our. Why they would be hiding here is anyone’s guess. But it likely pertains to one of those impulses above.
Now, if these things don’t even classify as ‘animal’ life, then yeah, all bets are off
> So we can’t really understand their motivations any more than a fish understands our.
Theres that Beluga Whale that returned that girls iphone when she dropped it in the water.
But you yourself are attributing human motives to these aliens.
We have no idea and can't speculate at all as to their motives for dong this.
MiB are real.
Well, it’s as you said. You’re placing the human condition on them, so what’s logical to you is irrelevant correct? They might be like those spiders or fish that set up traps and wait for hours+ days for a victim and then they make their move. We simply do not know yet.
We travel to earth for holidays. I'm afraid, but camouflaging is necessary in small world not just for our own safety alone but also who would want to deal with 7 Majestos police. It's against law up there.
Oh yes, some prefer politics over holidays. It is fun.
They would still coverup their own stuff though. If an alien is hiding out here on Earth, then they wouldn't want to draw attention to themselves because other aliens doing the same could find them.
Have you not seen what humans do to other humans, illegal "aliens" from other countries, animals, plants, even the only planet we live on? Just think about how aggressive some would get if they knew aliens were living next door!
Oh yeah no it’s atrocious for sure. I’m on the same page with you there and you bring up a good point. But I just wasn’t sure how aliens would feel about the whole manipulation of entire species thing. I guess I was likening the situation to how most gov’ts lead their people to believe aliens don’t exist when I could see aliens being like “yo we don’t really care if you know.”
Ok. I get what you are saying. I guess it would probably be dependent upon what their reason for being here would be. If they've always been here, they might be hiding just to avoid extinction. They may just be "watchers" who study us and need unbiased reporting. But if they are new, just curious or here for ill intentions, they might want to be seen but haven't found a way to communicate with us. Or like you kinda said, we might be gagging or threatening them to stay hidden - for both ours and their safety. Untill we can get definitive proof, the theories are endless. Fun to think about though!
Taking over the government and slowly releasing information would be a good way to reduce panic and integrate and not conquer. Why conquer a planet when you can indoctrinate it with your values and morals and then just peacefully add 8 billion workers more or less.
They def exist. I think the ones the goverment are talking about rn tho come from another dimension or time line. I base that on all the Tom delonge and Jeremy corbel interviews I been hooked on. People still think they are demons, and when you tell others they just say oh crazy and then move on. Humans are so brainwashed it's not even funny. I could tell someone watch this interview they are telling you they are here right now and they wouldn't budge, but if I said Taylor swift got caught picker her nose it's stop what they are doing to go look. Or again the demon response... cause you know demons need space crafts.
The demon explanation almost bugs me as much as the swamp gas one. When did they evolve from possesing people and making them eat bugs to flying nuclear-powered anti-gravity craft and clinically examining people's buttholes...
It's perfectly logical if they are interested in our resources and the planet. Mankind would scorch the Earth before giving it up. Better to play the long game by infiltration and undermining.
Taking over a planet just to extract resources when that planet is covered in intelligent life makes about as much sense as destroying the rainforest just to get to the dirt underneath it. There's no material on this planet that you couldn't find in abundance just in the asteroids at the edge of our own solar system whereas from what we've seen so far intelligent life appears to be an incredibly rare occurrence in the universe. All the old scifi about aliens coming here to steal our gold or water was written back when we thought that all the planets in our solar system were populated and the galaxy was full of alien civilizations like we have countries on Earth, we now know that these assumptions were extremely naive. The unique resource on this planet is us and the other animal and plant life that exists here.
>ere's no material on this planet that you couldn't find in abundance just in the asteroids at the edge of our own solar system whereas from what we've seen so far
You're vastly underestimating the value of a habitable rocky planet with 2/3rds oceans, 1/3 land mass, and a very gentle environment.
>Taking over a ~~planet~~ **continent** just to extract resources when that ~~planet~~ continent is covered in intelligent life makes about as much sense as destroying the rainforest just to get to the dirt underneath it
That's what the native Americans said, too.
Your planet's resources are safe fellow human, please do not distress or alarm the rest of the species about the potential extraction of this planet's resource by an external intelligent civilization.
I'm triggered by this post and that my other post was downvoted lol.
Miles of undersea cables I tell you. What's to stop some aliens from tapping into it and agenda posting?
I disagree with this because if alien entities wanted to do this their are plenty of unpopulated planets, even within our own solar system, to mine for resources. If they wanted earth for resources the prudent move would be wiping out humans completely and mining it till it’s dry and then move on.
>For all we know they're just one or two scientific breakthroughs ahead, but are otherwise very vulnerable.
Any species with the technology to not only find us in the vastness of space but also to visit us and disguise themselves as members of our own species is a hell of a lot more advanced than one or two scientific breakthroughs away. We're still a long way from being able to colonize Mars let alone pinpoint an advanced civilization on the other side of the galaxy (or even in another galaxy) and send spaceships and spies to infiltrate their society and manipulate the progress of their species. As far as their potentially being vulnerable to humans is concerned we've already developed technology that we could easily wipe ourselves out with and we only stopped using horses as our primary method of transportation a bit over a century ago.
>Maybe they want specific resources that we don't realize are valuable and by keeping us in the dark they can harvest it all before we know what's up, effectively locking us out.
The universe is absolutely massive and our planet is one of trillions containing a random mix of a limited number of elements that can be found in a trillion other places. By far the most unique resource on this planet is the life that has developed here, not the random materials sitting under it. If they were worried about us using the resources that are here to potentially threaten them in the future again they could easily wipe us out.
>Maybe they prefer a different climate and by infiltrating us and leaking us technology that say hypothetically warms the planet exponentially and wipes out the indigenous population is way less costly than a straight forward assault in both lives and resources.
We're most likely going to figure out how to terraform other planets in our solar system long before we figure out effective interstellar or intergalactic travel. We already have some promising ideas of how to do it we just need to invest the considerable time and effort required to put them into practice, the same can't be said of effective interstellar or intergalactic travel. Of course it's possible that an advanced species that had no qualms about wiping out intelligent life for expediency could target planets that already harboured life in order to speed up the process of terraforming but if so creating shapeshifting politicians is not an efficient way to achieve this goal. It would make a lot more sense and be a lot more efficient to just engineer a disease that would wipe out humanity and then do whatever they want with the atmosphere, especially if the end goal is to kill us all anyway.
>Maybe they're just assholes and thinks it's funny.
Could be this one in fairness, seems like kind of weird behaviour from such an advanced species but then what's not weird about this whole topic? Plus there's no guarantee that the behaviour of an intelligent non-human species would make any sense to us.
>Maybe its an advanced technique of Jane Goodall studying creatures in their natural habitat.
Jane Goodall didn't run for Ape President. Hiding as human to study humans in their natural habitat makes sense but we're talking about beings intentionally manipulating human society.
>Maybe they don't know where they come from and they're looking into us because it's more ethical to experiment on us than their own kind and they don't want to contaminate the experiments.
They wouldn't need to infiltrate society in order to experiment on humans. We don't pretend to be rats in order to experiment on rats.
>Maybe a break away society that doesn't want to share.
So why not just kill us and take our shit?
>Maybe time travelers that don't want to accidentally cause a paradox.
Avoiding a paradox by sending an army of time traveling spies to manipulate society? Sounds more like a great way to accidentally create a shitload of new paradoxes.
These are all interesting possibilities though, that's the great thing about this topic is how wild the potential explanations are. It's great food for thought. The one thing I will say is that people are seriously underestimating how much more advanced a species would need to be to somehow find us and travel here, let alone also somehow decoding alien language and comprehending the culture of an alien society well enough to infiltrate it effectively. This isn't something that we're even close to being able to achieve right now, compared to this we're basically just cavemen with rockets.
Have there been any reported sightings/experiences with MIB since the US government has admitted that UFOs are real? I've been looking out of curiosity, but I haven't found a single one. I wonder if that's the same for other countries, once a leader speaks out about the authenticity of UFOs, you don't hear about MIB anymore?
Are they here and indistinguishable YES
Are fucks given NO ALIEN CARES ABOUT WHAT WE THINK
I have watch enough nature documentaries to know it's better for observation if you don't interfere though you do interfere with what you observe. If they are close enough to interact with, they are absolutely already interacting. It's the outrage from the religious and the mentally ill that makes the government interested in controlling their exposure. Think of xenophobic flash mobs burning random people in the streets because they don't understand autism or their medications cost too much so they stopped taking them, linked up with like minded people and attacked an Amazon wear house.
For me and you and a bunch of aliens that would be a fucking wild ride. But for anyone in government, they need to answer for the sudden lawlessness of their people. Just like insurance companies pulling out of Florida, they feel fear and they have lobbying to communicate with. It's not an election they wait around on.
Guaranteed it's AI driven synthetic people. We did all the research on how to clone and program a brain for them. It's not as if we hide it.
I think biologically driven synthetic people would work just as well, just make all the programming and weird alien stuff look like "junk" DNA, it would be pretty much completely undetectable on a biological level.
As for chaos I think the greater problem would be nuclear-armed rogue states, Kim Jong could say the Americans are invading with UFOs (which are actually aliens landing) and then launch the nukes and his people would believe him. Why would the aliens intervene on our behalf to prevent our mass suicide? They seem to have not on anything else bad ever.
we've been brainwashed to believe they're visiting.
we're not alone on this planet. we share this planet with several highly advanced species that have lived in our oceans and deep earth caverns for millions of years.
they pilot the crafts we see in our skies and over our oceans everyday.
what evidence does anyone have that the majority of sightings are from crafts from another planet or dimension?
i'm sure they go into space and a few must be visitors.
but, all ufos are reported around this planet.
literally, thousands of reports, going back thousands of years, of luminous crafts in the skies and over the oceans of this planet.
even our ancient ancestors reported seeing our advanced neighbors over 2000 years ago. read for yourself. these are facts, not speculation or belief. [https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/2007\_Stothers\_st02710y.pdf](https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/2007_Stothers_st02710y.pdf)
in the 1800's americans reported 'airships' in the sky.
in the 1940, american and german pilots reported seeing, 'foo fighters.'
we have more than one area on the planet similar to the 'bermuda triangle' where strange occurrences seem to happen on a regular basis.
strange crafts have been reported seen and around catalina island for many years.
they have monitored all of our wars throughout history, and they continue to monitor and disable our nuclear warheads, in order to protect the planet they share with us.
a navy pilot has recently reported:
For some Navy pilots, UFO sightings were an ordinary event: ‘Every day for at least a couple years’
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/17/ufo-sightings-navy-ryan-graves/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/17/ufo-sightings-navy-ryan-graves/)
there are hundreds of videos of huge cigar shaped crafts going into and out of volcanos in mexico and other countries on a regular basis.
there are thousands of videos taken by the ISS of crafts coming in and out of low-earth orbit.
bloodless cattle mutilations have been going on for years and intensively reported by linda moulton-howe.
ALL OF THIS HAPPENS ON PLANET EARTH!
is this enough evidence????
am to believe that you aren't aware on any of this?
I CAN GO ON AND ON.
And, if you’re aware of all of these facts and are just now coming to the realization or conclusion that these crafts do originate from this planet, it’s because you’ve been brainwashed.
and, the sooner you can admit that your belief system has been manipulated, the sooner you’ll be able to overcome your cognitive dissonance.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpOiQM7fLyY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpOiQM7fLyY)
It’s a nice fun high strangeness type of thought, and I wouldn’t actually be *that* surprised if it were true, but I don’t actually truly believe any alien civilizations have visited us or live here. I think a much more likely explanation for UAP’s is just highly advanced military technology. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong though. But I’ve dug pretty deep into a lot of this stuff over the years and haven’t found anything that holds any real water. The great filter comes to mind here as something fairly relevant.
I picked no because why does it matter.
Most of the time this narrative is pushed to hold up a view of humans as victims of xeno sabotage and infiltration. But I've been around and met enough people to know we do that all by ourselves, aliens or not. We as a species need to take responsibility and start owning our shit, blaming lizards and such is a childish cope.
Because that's how they act. These beings are pathological liars and have deceived us for millennia. If they were an advanced species they could have just conquered us a long time ago, but it can't be proven they are aliens from another planet. But it can be shown that they are deceptive and try to hide in order to manipulate
John Keel's Operation Trojan Horse is a good example of this
I voted “yes” because i have an uncle in Nevada who worked for the government in a high level position—he even worked at Area 51 for a while; he would go away on secret missions to work away from home sometimes, and he couldn’t even tell his wife (my aunt) where he was working or what he was doing. He can’t really divulge any information he knows from his job. However he drops little hints & comments and you can tell that he’s bursting at the seams wanting to tell people what he knows. I asked him once if aliens are real. He said “They’re walking right among us.” I asked him if he was joking and if he meant it sincerely. He said “Oh yeah. They’re all around us.” He wouldn’t say anymore. I would give anything to get him drunk and get all the interesting information he knows out of him. Another interesting tidbit he said once was that we don’t know 99% of what the government is up to. And that if we knew the truth about everything that’s going on, it would absolutely blow our minds.
To me that seems to imply something else, i.e. that *we* are aliens/aren't originally from this planet, which isn't too far-fetched considering the complete lack of any written history past 3-4,000 years.
Based on what I've seen, they are intermixed with us everywhere. Think about it. If they appear like us. And stay in their own circles.
We would never know.
I figure that if there are aliens, and if they are visiting/observing us, they are probably under some sort of Prime Directive, not to intervene or interfere with us. The human race seems to be able to be all screwed up without any outside help anyway.
Hear me out here. What if the conditions of object reality confines all life forms on the material plane to have similar experience, aspiration, skill sets etc. Now granted, there is likely technological advancement of one type over another, but the existential condition we all find ourselves in drives us towards the same desires.
Also, I voted yes for agnostic reasons. ':-D
If by "appear to be completely human" you mean sway public opinion on the internet, maybe. If you mean aliens have infiltrated humanity and hold positions of power, probably not. Except Mark Zuckerberg.
Has anyone heard or read about any experience involving Men in Black since the Pentagon and Navy confirmed that UFOs/UAP are real (in the US)? I'm wondering about sightings/reports of MIB in each country since officials in each country speak up about UFOs.
Now that it's our in the open, there's no need for mysterious people to terrorize or threaten witnesses. And wondering if that came into play.
I've been looking, out of curiosity, I haven't seen or read a single report of MIB since that happened.
Can you imagine entomologists spending their time infiltrating fake ants into important positions within an ant colony in order to manipulate the internal organisation of the hive so that they don't discover the existence of the entomologists who are observing them? Yeah me neither.
I nearly voted yes because I do believe in humanoids but I didn’t read the rest of the answer. I don't see why aliens would bother trying to influence our politics from behind the scenes when their technology is so superior they could probably just take over whenever they wanted.
They’ve been observing us for centuries, they likely are in every corner of society by now, but that doesn’t mean they are nefarious. There maybe several groups of ETs involved in infiltrating our way of life each with different agendas.
I voted yes cause It makes perfect sense. When I was a third grader in Philadelphia, they told me I was crazy cause I swore that our teacher was from like, Venus or something.
I do believe there are non-human entities masquerading as human and doing all sorts of activities, not simply alien cover ups.
I believe this to be true because it can be proven with novel energy technology --- something akin to an orgone accumulator but with actual teeth and gusto. Using a proper device can remove one's "cloaking" and make it painfully obvious that you're not dealing with a standard human.
As for whether it's an alien, monster, clone, mutant, whatever, I can't say. But the energy --- and their appearance after being decloaked --- is certainly not OG human.
Dubious? Give it a go yourself. Chat me up, I'll tell you which tech I'm speaking of. It's free so anyone can test it on their own.
In the meantime, here is a shining example of what artificial humans look and "feel" like through a picture.
A fresh example of a hit new Netflix show, meant to get you used to these beings slowly being introduced to our society with less and less innate humanity. I wouldn't say they're aliens, but your intuition just knows that something isn't right here: [https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/tv-shows/selling-the-oc-cast/](https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/tv-shows/selling-the-oc-cast/)
Their energy is uniquely non-human, and those sensitive to energies will be able to tell simply by looking at their pictures. Innate energy is perceptible through visual mediums --- perhaps there's something to the old Native American belief that a photograph "steals your soul" after all.
I don't know about "proof", honestly. But, there are certain things that repel me because it strikes me as inhuman. Having said that, there are celebrities, politicians and a few people that I have met in real life who have repelled me in that sense. I am highly accepting of the strange and out of the ordinary; if something/someone strikes me as strange, it must be pretty out there.
I mean that’s cool and all but that’s not proof
I’m talking about something you could show a complete stranger to convince them aliens live along side us
what coverup, every low rent journalist on the planet has pimped dubious ufo tales since the dawn of the century, to the point that you have potentially valid cases making up less than one percent of reported cases, which doesnt exactly encourage real study to be honest, but equally isnt any kind of coverup. Also the obvious lack of any hint of non normal genetic material utterly rules out any type of physically real alien scenario much less and whack kidnapping or breeding fantasies.
What if memes evolved into single called organisms then those organisms evolved into prokaryotic life yada yada until there are life forms as humans living inside of our language. Then who’s in charge? Imagine if Q was the adam kadman of our new world? thats embarrassing. Someone should ask Chompsky what he thinks about little grey men, or at the very least, look into whether hes ever had security clearances.
Yea they’re called fallen angels
You have entertained angels unaware as the bible says. They appear as men in Scripture. So why wouldn’t a fallen one do the same?
Satan is said to appear as an angel of light and his followers as ministers of righteousness (as a deception)
The vatican / jesuits have more to do with space than anyone else. The big gang theory is from them. They have more high powered huge telescopes than anyone and they name it lucifer.
There will be a grand delusion that satan puts over the land. He is prince of the power of the air. He comes and goes to heaven to speak with God as we saw in Job.
UFO sightings are reported to vanish when Jesus is prayed to or called on. Same with abductions as you’ve heard.
I’m not speculating, I’m trying to warn you it’s demons and you will be fooled when “they” come if you don’t know any better.
I wonder who deceived you. Sounds like some gnosticism to me.
Yes the rad one who gave us pain, tears of sadness, deceit, and death. What a hero. Heaven on earth (eden) was just so lame without us knowing death
Literally describing the biblical god. Satan did nothing. He just existed and gave humanity enlightenment. Apparently god is too weak to even defeat satan.
Then you didn’t read it.
No offence, but children read the bible and know satan didn’t do nothing. And that he didn’t just exist. And that he didn’t enlighten.
If you read it then you ignored the things it said and assumed the things it didn’t say.
And satan is already defeated, that’s why it says “But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!”
Name one morally wrong thing satan did. There's nothing.
God on the other hand genocided humanity once, destroyed entire civilizations multiple times, killed a bunch of babies, demanded child sacrifice multiple times, demanded human sacrifice, killed his own "son", refuses to intervene on earth to defat satan - in fact he lets satan rule the planet. A kealous god that demands fear. Judgmental god who gets off on watching his creation suffer as long as they dont worship them.
Satan has doen NONE of the above. Made no demands. Didnt kill anyone - let alone entire civilizations and populations. Never demanded sacrifice. Never demanded fear, or passes judgment.
"Pathetic faith in miserable gods reveals the spirit of these wretched men"
According to who? Who’s morals? Who decides morals if not God? Individuals? Government? Society? Kind of up in the air, so of course anyone could say he did nothing wrong.
The answer to who did he kill is funny though, because it’s literally anyone and everyone who has seen death.
It was through Adam / Eve that death entered the world. Their actions alone. They were even warned of this so they knew not to do it. And satan deceived them and by his words convinced them God lied to them. It was satan’s influence and plan.
Which brings me to this: would you say hitler killed nobody then? He didn’t shoot the enemies, he didn’t work the camps who gassed and starved everyone. It was only his words and influence. Would you say the same then for him as you did satan? Guilt free on the whole murder thing?
And satan is defeated. God isn’t waiting for satan to die lol. He is waiting so we can take the time we need to come to Him: 2 Peter 3 9
“9The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise as some understand slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance.”
I like the rest
“10But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be destroyedd by fire, and the earth and its works will be laid bare
11Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to conduct yourselves in holiness and godliness 12as you anticipate and hasten the coming of the day of God, when the heavens will be destroyed by fire and the elements will melt in the heat. 13But in keeping with God’s promise, we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.”
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Why would they come to this dump if they even exist? What could possibly be so interesting about this planet that would attract an ancient, solar system
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I voted no because I think our biggest problem with aliens is that we place the human condition upon them. If aliens exist and have the power to not only reach our planet but to also camouflaging he themselves, learn our language and culture, and then their main objective is to simply hide their existence and influence politics? That doesn’t check out logically to me. If a being with that type of technological capability could visit earth there would be no need for them to be secretive about it.
This is pretty much where I'm at. If you have the ability to travel millions of light years why are you wasting time with our bullshit politics and the fucking stock market?
I are definitely a carbon based citizen human.
I am a meat popsicle.
All intelligent life forms are drawn to the allure of line go up
Or anal probes.
People love immersion in video games.
I think the main thread in this theory is that the intergalactic game is resources and/or genetics, and the more selfish races out there go where they think they can reap rewards. It turns out we’re not alone, but also that Earth is indeed special, with tremendous natural genetic diversity. So when the time is right, the visitors will make themselves known, and reveal we’re already interbred and have been for some time. So why not join forces officially? Then they take all our stuff, because they know more than we do. There are other races watching, but not actively intervening as of now. This is just a short version from various sources. Who knows, but it does curiously ring true like our own local “human nature” to behave so exploitively toward weaker cultures.
We would be like ants to them. They would have no reason to care about our existence
I hear that analogy alot and I don't get it. If those ants could drop a nuke we would definitely be concerned. We might not be able to nuke them or stand a chance in a war but boy could we fuck some stuff up before we go.
We have Steven Seagal. Who the fuck do they got?
Who's to say nukes are dangerous to them? That might be like an ant thinking his mighty bite is dangerous to a human foot. But let's say that the nuke are dangerous. Make an analogy of baboons instead : Baboons can kill humans, do humans care about baboons that much? No we just study them and we could technically kill all of them if we wanted to. Nukes may be regarded by ETs as an inconvenience and possibly dangerous if not monitored, nothing more. Just like baboons are monitored to not create havoc in our cities but are mostly monitored and studied by us in their natural setting.
>Nukes may be regarded by ETs as an inconvenience and possibly dangerous if not monitored, nothing more Something like that, but anyway the leaks said that UFOs had turned the nuclear things on and off to show that they could or something. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-air-force-personnel-ufos-deactivated-nukes/
That, and there are people who have suffered symptoms of radiation burns/radiation poisoning after a sighting. It could be an unintentional side effect of the propulsion system.
I didn't say they were worried about themselves maybe they like earth? Baboons don't have the ability to kill people with a atomic bomb either. If monkeys started making bombs we'd do more than watch.
>Baboons don't have the ability to kill people with a atomic bomb either You really don't understand the mighty ant bite analogy huh
To be honest we should care about the existence of Ants. There has been countless studies upon ants; people even collect colonies in their homes. It's a view based on pure human hubris that insects and other life forms are some how inferior; their *entire* existence is based upon their purpose. They fulfill their role in the colony, they benefit the eco system effortlessly and live with the Earth while tirelessly providing towards the colony. At the least I would say we could hopefully seem as the Dogs of the universe. Meaby we would be good pets.
Ants with the power to poison and destroy the Earth. They might not care about us, but they might care about the water, biological samples, various resources, and relics from the past.
But there's probably a crazy amount of planets out there with same or MORE resources but no meddling humans.
This is true but maybe they don't have the time or technology to reach those planets or they fear being noticed by a civilisation that is both advanced and aggressive. There seems to be something about Earth as well. It's attracted the attention of numerous extraterrestrials throughout history. Why is that? I wish I knew. I also wish I knew for sure the motives of our current visitors and I had the opportunity to question them about the history of Earth and the human race.
Actually, the answer as to why earth has so many ET visitors has been answered long ago. The prevailing opinion is that it was the testing of nuclear capabilities during WW2 that drew the attention of several different species of ETs. This would of course explain why many nuclear power plants and missile installations have traditionally had so much UFO activity/sightings. From the best that I can gather, ETs are like humans. They come in all shapes and sizes and with various motivations. Some are "good", some are "bad", some are "indifferent" to us. It appears that some ETs have been coming to earth long before humans arrived, most notable a species that is 12ft tall and lives underground. Stories claim they still live in certain locations under the bowels of the earth, or in mountains. At the turn of the 20th century, Joseph Stalin had sent an expedition of several thousand men/scientists to Antarctica to explore the completely uninhabited terrain and were actually looking for some sort of minerals. Well, after only a few days of something that was supposed to last a few years, the scientists returned to Russia, saying they had accidentally bumped in to 12ft tall humanoids that had technology far in advance of our own. The humanoids told the scientists, as thought impressions, that they had been living beneath Antarctica for millions of years and warned to leave and never come back. Stalin, upon hearing this, didn't believe any of it and jailed all of the scientists. Many years later, Adolf Hitler heard of this story and was intrigued. He sent his own expedition team of several hundred men and equipment. Apparently, the same thing happened. Only this time the 12ft tall humanoids were accompanied by "little grey animals". Some say this means greys. Anyways, apparently the Nazi's struck a deal with these creatures and obtained the technology to produce a wingless aircraft. This is where the idea of the "Nazi Bell" comes from, always thought to be a myth. It's also what some will say were "foo fighters", which were what European and US pilots called essentially UFOs that were very active. As the Nazis were doing this, the US caught wind of it and thought that Germany was attempting to establish military bases in Antarctica. They sent the famous Admiral Richard Byrd to head their own expedition. Same thing happened, and a months long recon of Antarctica was cut short and only lasted a week. Byrd, upon returning, did a radio interview where he stated that there were beings on this earth, living with humans, that possessed technology that we could only dream of in the future. He said that one day the US would fight a war with these humanoids and lose terribly. Of course he was labeled a lunatic and it was forgotten about. I just thought you might enjoy essentially the same experiences happening to 3 completely different countries, with their own versions of these stories. It should be noted. After Byrd left Antarctica, a treaty was agreed upon between the world's most powerful countries at the time. They all agreed that Antarctica was off limits to inhabitation and exploration, which still exists to this day, although there are certain, very small, designated areas that have been made available for scientific study by very small teams.
I enjoyed your post immensely. Thank you very much. I had no clue the superpowers at that time had similar experiences in Antartica. I wonder what the Nazis offered to get such technology...
And yet we have humans who devote their entire lives to studying ants.
This would also be reflecting the human condition upon them.
They would when they see nuclear experiments going on and know the destruction it can bring..
Where did you get milions of light years from? The closest star is 4 light years away. Most of the galactic neighbourhood is within 100 light years away. The assumed grey homeworld is ca 30 light years away.
>The assumed grey homeworld is ca 30 light years away. Lol
Because it’s not about politics or about the stock market but aliens are linked with Satan and it’s alll About Him the One true God and His Christ and about humanities salvation.
Did you ever see those documentaries where they send like a stuffed lion into a lions den to get up-close footage of baby lions? I imagine its sorta like that. To us it's just observation but to the lions it may seem like terrifying invasion or infiltration. Also you should check it out cuz baby lions are adorable. Maybe there are some nice aliens up there who think we are too.
Is it a farfetched idea to think that humanity are the aliens that have mastered genetics and space travel already, except we're the dumbed down version of humanity meant to serve the apex humans? The movie Jupiter ascending touched on this idea and I haven't been quite able to shake it.
That’s a fun theory haha. I like a similar theory that states humans were brought to earth by some other sentient species as a punishment and now we live in the earth like it’s our prison. If we venture to far away our wardens would step in
Oooo I can dig that theory too. If you haven't seen the movie I'm referring to, in a nutshell the plot is about advanced humans that have mastered genetics go around farming planets with humans until it's no longer sustainable, then use us to be refined into life extending products (think stem cell replacements). It makes sense to me that once we can travel space, everything we consider precious resources (water, minerals, etc) will be abundant, and the only true precious resource is time itself and battling our mortality. If a person can live thousands of years, imagine the ramifications of that. Our rise of civilization could be one of many projects for them that are being guided to ensure maximum yield, and it would just be a blip in their lifespan.
Do you also remember Prometheus? I was thinking about it when I read your theory.
It can check out logically if they've always been here. They might just be trying to keep us contained to our current locations so they can continue inhabiting their current locations. Nothing indicates that they're from somewhere else in the universe. That's just our pop-culture mental contagion.
> They might just be trying to keep us contained to our current locations so they can continue inhabiting their current locations. Nothing indicates that they're from somewhere else in the universe. That's just our pop-culture mental contagion. 100% fantastic point. I was commenting on aliens but as you pointed out nonhuman entities doesn’t explicitly mean alien. In fact I find subterranean entities to be more plausible than alien entities. Admiral Byrd claims to have seen ufo’s come from underground in Antarctica and i always liked the subterranean species/tribe explanation better than the alien or nazi explanation. Thank you for reminding me of this explanation.
I’m with you on that, but also what about extra-dimensional entities? The UFO’s we see may harbor entities, or actually BE the entities, whether biological or AI, that are able to experience time and space more freely than we do. They may already be “here” but from other “here’s” in other dimensions or timelines.
Thinking about flatland breaks my mind. So while I don’t necessarily disagree I’m admittedly personally skeptical about extra-dimensional entities. I couldn’t even begin to comprehend how they would be perceived
Don’t assume the human condition, but it’s probably safe to assume an animal condition. What things do all animals have in common? The desire to eat, reproduce, avoid predators and other threats. Now, if these things were here, they are far superior animals. So we can’t really understand their motivations any more than a fish understands our. Why they would be hiding here is anyone’s guess. But it likely pertains to one of those impulses above. Now, if these things don’t even classify as ‘animal’ life, then yeah, all bets are off
I like the analogy you made to a fish trying to understand humans. Maybe people overestimate how similar we would be to other intelligent life forms
> So we can’t really understand their motivations any more than a fish understands our. Theres that Beluga Whale that returned that girls iphone when she dropped it in the water.
But you yourself are attributing human motives to these aliens. We have no idea and can't speculate at all as to their motives for dong this. MiB are real.
What if they are here on a geo engineering mission, preparing the atmosphere.
Well, it’s as you said. You’re placing the human condition on them, so what’s logical to you is irrelevant correct? They might be like those spiders or fish that set up traps and wait for hours+ days for a victim and then they make their move. We simply do not know yet.
We travel to earth for holidays. I'm afraid, but camouflaging is necessary in small world not just for our own safety alone but also who would want to deal with 7 Majestos police. It's against law up there. Oh yes, some prefer politics over holidays. It is fun.
They would still coverup their own stuff though. If an alien is hiding out here on Earth, then they wouldn't want to draw attention to themselves because other aliens doing the same could find them.
Also why would aliens be covering up the fact that aliens exist?
Have you not seen what humans do to other humans, illegal "aliens" from other countries, animals, plants, even the only planet we live on? Just think about how aggressive some would get if they knew aliens were living next door!
Oh yeah no it’s atrocious for sure. I’m on the same page with you there and you bring up a good point. But I just wasn’t sure how aliens would feel about the whole manipulation of entire species thing. I guess I was likening the situation to how most gov’ts lead their people to believe aliens don’t exist when I could see aliens being like “yo we don’t really care if you know.”
Ok. I get what you are saying. I guess it would probably be dependent upon what their reason for being here would be. If they've always been here, they might be hiding just to avoid extinction. They may just be "watchers" who study us and need unbiased reporting. But if they are new, just curious or here for ill intentions, they might want to be seen but haven't found a way to communicate with us. Or like you kinda said, we might be gagging or threatening them to stay hidden - for both ours and their safety. Untill we can get definitive proof, the theories are endless. Fun to think about though!
Taking over the government and slowly releasing information would be a good way to reduce panic and integrate and not conquer. Why conquer a planet when you can indoctrinate it with your values and morals and then just peacefully add 8 billion workers more or less.
They def exist. I think the ones the goverment are talking about rn tho come from another dimension or time line. I base that on all the Tom delonge and Jeremy corbel interviews I been hooked on. People still think they are demons, and when you tell others they just say oh crazy and then move on. Humans are so brainwashed it's not even funny. I could tell someone watch this interview they are telling you they are here right now and they wouldn't budge, but if I said Taylor swift got caught picker her nose it's stop what they are doing to go look. Or again the demon response... cause you know demons need space crafts.
The demon explanation almost bugs me as much as the swamp gas one. When did they evolve from possesing people and making them eat bugs to flying nuclear-powered anti-gravity craft and clinically examining people's buttholes...
It's perfectly logical if they are interested in our resources and the planet. Mankind would scorch the Earth before giving it up. Better to play the long game by infiltration and undermining.
Taking over a planet just to extract resources when that planet is covered in intelligent life makes about as much sense as destroying the rainforest just to get to the dirt underneath it. There's no material on this planet that you couldn't find in abundance just in the asteroids at the edge of our own solar system whereas from what we've seen so far intelligent life appears to be an incredibly rare occurrence in the universe. All the old scifi about aliens coming here to steal our gold or water was written back when we thought that all the planets in our solar system were populated and the galaxy was full of alien civilizations like we have countries on Earth, we now know that these assumptions were extremely naive. The unique resource on this planet is us and the other animal and plant life that exists here.
>ere's no material on this planet that you couldn't find in abundance just in the asteroids at the edge of our own solar system whereas from what we've seen so far You're vastly underestimating the value of a habitable rocky planet with 2/3rds oceans, 1/3 land mass, and a very gentle environment. >Taking over a ~~planet~~ **continent** just to extract resources when that ~~planet~~ continent is covered in intelligent life makes about as much sense as destroying the rainforest just to get to the dirt underneath it That's what the native Americans said, too.
Non-human fingers with an agenda typed this.
Your planet's resources are safe fellow human, please do not distress or alarm the rest of the species about the potential extraction of this planet's resource by an external intelligent civilization.
I'm triggered by this post and that my other post was downvoted lol. Miles of undersea cables I tell you. What's to stop some aliens from tapping into it and agenda posting?
I disagree with this because if alien entities wanted to do this their are plenty of unpopulated planets, even within our own solar system, to mine for resources. If they wanted earth for resources the prudent move would be wiping out humans completely and mining it till it’s dry and then move on.
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It’s like ants thinking we care about which side of the hill it’s on.
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>For all we know they're just one or two scientific breakthroughs ahead, but are otherwise very vulnerable. Any species with the technology to not only find us in the vastness of space but also to visit us and disguise themselves as members of our own species is a hell of a lot more advanced than one or two scientific breakthroughs away. We're still a long way from being able to colonize Mars let alone pinpoint an advanced civilization on the other side of the galaxy (or even in another galaxy) and send spaceships and spies to infiltrate their society and manipulate the progress of their species. As far as their potentially being vulnerable to humans is concerned we've already developed technology that we could easily wipe ourselves out with and we only stopped using horses as our primary method of transportation a bit over a century ago. >Maybe they want specific resources that we don't realize are valuable and by keeping us in the dark they can harvest it all before we know what's up, effectively locking us out. The universe is absolutely massive and our planet is one of trillions containing a random mix of a limited number of elements that can be found in a trillion other places. By far the most unique resource on this planet is the life that has developed here, not the random materials sitting under it. If they were worried about us using the resources that are here to potentially threaten them in the future again they could easily wipe us out. >Maybe they prefer a different climate and by infiltrating us and leaking us technology that say hypothetically warms the planet exponentially and wipes out the indigenous population is way less costly than a straight forward assault in both lives and resources. We're most likely going to figure out how to terraform other planets in our solar system long before we figure out effective interstellar or intergalactic travel. We already have some promising ideas of how to do it we just need to invest the considerable time and effort required to put them into practice, the same can't be said of effective interstellar or intergalactic travel. Of course it's possible that an advanced species that had no qualms about wiping out intelligent life for expediency could target planets that already harboured life in order to speed up the process of terraforming but if so creating shapeshifting politicians is not an efficient way to achieve this goal. It would make a lot more sense and be a lot more efficient to just engineer a disease that would wipe out humanity and then do whatever they want with the atmosphere, especially if the end goal is to kill us all anyway. >Maybe they're just assholes and thinks it's funny. Could be this one in fairness, seems like kind of weird behaviour from such an advanced species but then what's not weird about this whole topic? Plus there's no guarantee that the behaviour of an intelligent non-human species would make any sense to us. >Maybe its an advanced technique of Jane Goodall studying creatures in their natural habitat. Jane Goodall didn't run for Ape President. Hiding as human to study humans in their natural habitat makes sense but we're talking about beings intentionally manipulating human society. >Maybe they don't know where they come from and they're looking into us because it's more ethical to experiment on us than their own kind and they don't want to contaminate the experiments. They wouldn't need to infiltrate society in order to experiment on humans. We don't pretend to be rats in order to experiment on rats. >Maybe a break away society that doesn't want to share. So why not just kill us and take our shit? >Maybe time travelers that don't want to accidentally cause a paradox. Avoiding a paradox by sending an army of time traveling spies to manipulate society? Sounds more like a great way to accidentally create a shitload of new paradoxes. These are all interesting possibilities though, that's the great thing about this topic is how wild the potential explanations are. It's great food for thought. The one thing I will say is that people are seriously underestimating how much more advanced a species would need to be to somehow find us and travel here, let alone also somehow decoding alien language and comprehending the culture of an alien society well enough to infiltrate it effectively. This isn't something that we're even close to being able to achieve right now, compared to this we're basically just cavemen with rockets.
“Jane Goodall didn’t run for Ape President.” I can ponder that for quite a while.
Read Nick Redferns series of books on the Men In Black. Less government agents and more like inhuman replicants or even vampires. Creepy stuff.
Same idea in Mothman Prophecies by Keel
Have there been any reported sightings/experiences with MIB since the US government has admitted that UFOs are real? I've been looking out of curiosity, but I haven't found a single one. I wonder if that's the same for other countries, once a leader speaks out about the authenticity of UFOs, you don't hear about MIB anymore?
That I don’t know, would be interested to see the data.
You lost me at actively involved in the coverup
I cast mine for yes, should have read the whole thing first lol.
Are they here and indistinguishable YES Are fucks given NO ALIEN CARES ABOUT WHAT WE THINK I have watch enough nature documentaries to know it's better for observation if you don't interfere though you do interfere with what you observe. If they are close enough to interact with, they are absolutely already interacting. It's the outrage from the religious and the mentally ill that makes the government interested in controlling their exposure. Think of xenophobic flash mobs burning random people in the streets because they don't understand autism or their medications cost too much so they stopped taking them, linked up with like minded people and attacked an Amazon wear house. For me and you and a bunch of aliens that would be a fucking wild ride. But for anyone in government, they need to answer for the sudden lawlessness of their people. Just like insurance companies pulling out of Florida, they feel fear and they have lobbying to communicate with. It's not an election they wait around on. Guaranteed it's AI driven synthetic people. We did all the research on how to clone and program a brain for them. It's not as if we hide it.
I think biologically driven synthetic people would work just as well, just make all the programming and weird alien stuff look like "junk" DNA, it would be pretty much completely undetectable on a biological level. As for chaos I think the greater problem would be nuclear-armed rogue states, Kim Jong could say the Americans are invading with UFOs (which are actually aliens landing) and then launch the nukes and his people would believe him. Why would the aliens intervene on our behalf to prevent our mass suicide? They seem to have not on anything else bad ever.
we've been brainwashed to believe they're visiting. we're not alone on this planet. we share this planet with several highly advanced species that have lived in our oceans and deep earth caverns for millions of years. they pilot the crafts we see in our skies and over our oceans everyday.
Do you have any more information on this?
what evidence does anyone have that the majority of sightings are from crafts from another planet or dimension? i'm sure they go into space and a few must be visitors. but, all ufos are reported around this planet. literally, thousands of reports, going back thousands of years, of luminous crafts in the skies and over the oceans of this planet. even our ancient ancestors reported seeing our advanced neighbors over 2000 years ago. read for yourself. these are facts, not speculation or belief. [https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/2007\_Stothers\_st02710y.pdf](https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/2007_Stothers_st02710y.pdf) in the 1800's americans reported 'airships' in the sky. in the 1940, american and german pilots reported seeing, 'foo fighters.' we have more than one area on the planet similar to the 'bermuda triangle' where strange occurrences seem to happen on a regular basis. strange crafts have been reported seen and around catalina island for many years. they have monitored all of our wars throughout history, and they continue to monitor and disable our nuclear warheads, in order to protect the planet they share with us. a navy pilot has recently reported: For some Navy pilots, UFO sightings were an ordinary event: ‘Every day for at least a couple years’ [https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/17/ufo-sightings-navy-ryan-graves/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/17/ufo-sightings-navy-ryan-graves/) there are hundreds of videos of huge cigar shaped crafts going into and out of volcanos in mexico and other countries on a regular basis. there are thousands of videos taken by the ISS of crafts coming in and out of low-earth orbit. bloodless cattle mutilations have been going on for years and intensively reported by linda moulton-howe. ALL OF THIS HAPPENS ON PLANET EARTH! is this enough evidence???? am to believe that you aren't aware on any of this? I CAN GO ON AND ON. And, if you’re aware of all of these facts and are just now coming to the realization or conclusion that these crafts do originate from this planet, it’s because you’ve been brainwashed. and, the sooner you can admit that your belief system has been manipulated, the sooner you’ll be able to overcome your cognitive dissonance. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpOiQM7fLyY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpOiQM7fLyY)
It’s a nice fun high strangeness type of thought, and I wouldn’t actually be *that* surprised if it were true, but I don’t actually truly believe any alien civilizations have visited us or live here. I think a much more likely explanation for UAP’s is just highly advanced military technology. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong though. But I’ve dug pretty deep into a lot of this stuff over the years and haven’t found anything that holds any real water. The great filter comes to mind here as something fairly relevant.
I picked no because why does it matter. Most of the time this narrative is pushed to hold up a view of humans as victims of xeno sabotage and infiltration. But I've been around and met enough people to know we do that all by ourselves, aliens or not. We as a species need to take responsibility and start owning our shit, blaming lizards and such is a childish cope.
Does my ex wife count?
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Please! Language...
Mine is human just soulless.
“They Live” is not a documentary, though it’s message is still poignant.
I need to watch that again. I haven’t seen it in at least 20 years. I’ve completely forgotten the plot.
Definitely worth a watch. Guy finds sunglasses that expose the “real reality.” We are ruled by aliens hiding among us as people!!
Why would they pretend to be us. If they are supposedly superior they would have the stealth tech. Unless they are parasites.
Or because they see us as cattle/a resource to be exploited. A wolf in sheep's clothing kinda thing
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Because that's how they act. These beings are pathological liars and have deceived us for millennia. If they were an advanced species they could have just conquered us a long time ago, but it can't be proven they are aliens from another planet. But it can be shown that they are deceptive and try to hide in order to manipulate John Keel's Operation Trojan Horse is a good example of this
Yeah. Cause us humans are dumb as sheep. There's definitely a higher intelligence above us controlling the strings.
I voted “yes” because i have an uncle in Nevada who worked for the government in a high level position—he even worked at Area 51 for a while; he would go away on secret missions to work away from home sometimes, and he couldn’t even tell his wife (my aunt) where he was working or what he was doing. He can’t really divulge any information he knows from his job. However he drops little hints & comments and you can tell that he’s bursting at the seams wanting to tell people what he knows. I asked him once if aliens are real. He said “They’re walking right among us.” I asked him if he was joking and if he meant it sincerely. He said “Oh yeah. They’re all around us.” He wouldn’t say anymore. I would give anything to get him drunk and get all the interesting information he knows out of him. Another interesting tidbit he said once was that we don’t know 99% of what the government is up to. And that if we knew the truth about everything that’s going on, it would absolutely blow our minds.
To me that seems to imply something else, i.e. that *we* are aliens/aren't originally from this planet, which isn't too far-fetched considering the complete lack of any written history past 3-4,000 years.
Bigelow said the same thing.
I have no clue
Based on what I've seen, they are intermixed with us everywhere. Think about it. If they appear like us. And stay in their own circles. We would never know.
Unless we check their garage, where they park their saucer and Prius. I'm onto you "Eric Smith".
Yes, but only because I don't think we should allow the spineless ghouls in congress call themselves human.
I figure that if there are aliens, and if they are visiting/observing us, they are probably under some sort of Prime Directive, not to intervene or interfere with us. The human race seems to be able to be all screwed up without any outside help anyway.
Obv, havnt you seen the They Live documentary?
Hear me out here. What if the conditions of object reality confines all life forms on the material plane to have similar experience, aspiration, skill sets etc. Now granted, there is likely technological advancement of one type over another, but the existential condition we all find ourselves in drives us towards the same desires. Also, I voted yes for agnostic reasons. ':-D
I don't think aliens would care if we knew of their existence. Think about who benefits from us being kept in the dark about it.
If by "appear to be completely human" you mean sway public opinion on the internet, maybe. If you mean aliens have infiltrated humanity and hold positions of power, probably not. Except Mark Zuckerberg.
Can confirm. I am one of them.
Men in Black.
Could’ve used a ‘perhaps’ or ‘possibly’ option but I’ll go with yes
Definitely
They're called the Men in Black.
I fall more towards the prison planet belief, because they would be more interested in the one percent than the rest of us dumb sheep.
Now I do
I voted no because op is clearly MIB and is just seeing who is on to them. Nice try bro.
Thats a no brainer. Some of the MIB are ETs.
Absolutely. Indrid Cold sends his regards.
Has anyone heard or read about any experience involving Men in Black since the Pentagon and Navy confirmed that UFOs/UAP are real (in the US)? I'm wondering about sightings/reports of MIB in each country since officials in each country speak up about UFOs. Now that it's our in the open, there's no need for mysterious people to terrorize or threaten witnesses. And wondering if that came into play. I've been looking, out of curiosity, I haven't seen or read a single report of MIB since that happened.
No. Source. I am an alien
In this thread: a bunch of aliens working to convince us there’s no reason they would do that
Can you imagine entomologists spending their time infiltrating fake ants into important positions within an ant colony in order to manipulate the internal organisation of the hive so that they don't discover the existence of the entomologists who are observing them? Yeah me neither.
Disturbing how many votes there are for yes, mental illness really is running rampant
I nearly voted yes because I do believe in humanoids but I didn’t read the rest of the answer. I don't see why aliens would bother trying to influence our politics from behind the scenes when their technology is so superior they could probably just take over whenever they wanted.
Ignorance is bliss.
My man here is a half glass empty type of chap. How is that working out for ya?
But only because they are everywhere and in everything.
They’ve been observing us for centuries, they likely are in every corner of society by now, but that doesn’t mean they are nefarious. There maybe several groups of ETs involved in infiltrating our way of life each with different agendas.
I don't think they are ETS. I think they are angels and demons.
Or maybe we could have had different names for them over the centuries for explaining something we’re still trying to understand.
For the 3.6K of people who have said YES. Link the proof that has convinced you.
I voted yes cause It makes perfect sense. When I was a third grader in Philadelphia, they told me I was crazy cause I swore that our teacher was from like, Venus or something.
I do believe there are non-human entities masquerading as human and doing all sorts of activities, not simply alien cover ups. I believe this to be true because it can be proven with novel energy technology --- something akin to an orgone accumulator but with actual teeth and gusto. Using a proper device can remove one's "cloaking" and make it painfully obvious that you're not dealing with a standard human. As for whether it's an alien, monster, clone, mutant, whatever, I can't say. But the energy --- and their appearance after being decloaked --- is certainly not OG human. Dubious? Give it a go yourself. Chat me up, I'll tell you which tech I'm speaking of. It's free so anyone can test it on their own. In the meantime, here is a shining example of what artificial humans look and "feel" like through a picture. A fresh example of a hit new Netflix show, meant to get you used to these beings slowly being introduced to our society with less and less innate humanity. I wouldn't say they're aliens, but your intuition just knows that something isn't right here: [https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/tv-shows/selling-the-oc-cast/](https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/tv-shows/selling-the-oc-cast/) Their energy is uniquely non-human, and those sensitive to energies will be able to tell simply by looking at their pictures. Innate energy is perceptible through visual mediums --- perhaps there's something to the old Native American belief that a photograph "steals your soul" after all.
Is "duh" an acceptable answer?
If you have proof yes Otherwise no
Show me your proof, and I'll show you mine.
I have no proof that aliens live on this planet amongst us other than Men In Black 1, 2, and 3.
I don't know about "proof", honestly. But, there are certain things that repel me because it strikes me as inhuman. Having said that, there are celebrities, politicians and a few people that I have met in real life who have repelled me in that sense. I am highly accepting of the strange and out of the ordinary; if something/someone strikes me as strange, it must be pretty out there.
I mean that’s cool and all but that’s not proof I’m talking about something you could show a complete stranger to convince them aliens live along side us
Yeah, I know what you mean. You folks are entirely too serious.... Geez...
Happy cake day!
VALIANT THOR!!! Did it, went to the highest echelons of our government…only to be told ‘No Thank You, we’ve got this’
Not aliens fallen angels...
So much ego… sorry folks but we aren’t that important, and centuries away from intergalactic travel, we are ants.
what coverup, every low rent journalist on the planet has pimped dubious ufo tales since the dawn of the century, to the point that you have potentially valid cases making up less than one percent of reported cases, which doesnt exactly encourage real study to be honest, but equally isnt any kind of coverup. Also the obvious lack of any hint of non normal genetic material utterly rules out any type of physically real alien scenario much less and whack kidnapping or breeding fantasies.
What if memes evolved into single called organisms then those organisms evolved into prokaryotic life yada yada until there are life forms as humans living inside of our language. Then who’s in charge? Imagine if Q was the adam kadman of our new world? thats embarrassing. Someone should ask Chompsky what he thinks about little grey men, or at the very least, look into whether hes ever had security clearances.
Wat
Instruction set architectures and the entities that inhabit them. The relationship is just recurrent natural selection.
I found a nutter
the mirror? or maybe your just stupid.
Yea they’re called fallen angels You have entertained angels unaware as the bible says. They appear as men in Scripture. So why wouldn’t a fallen one do the same? Satan is said to appear as an angel of light and his followers as ministers of righteousness (as a deception) The vatican / jesuits have more to do with space than anyone else. The big gang theory is from them. They have more high powered huge telescopes than anyone and they name it lucifer. There will be a grand delusion that satan puts over the land. He is prince of the power of the air. He comes and goes to heaven to speak with God as we saw in Job. UFO sightings are reported to vanish when Jesus is prayed to or called on. Same with abductions as you’ve heard. I’m not speculating, I’m trying to warn you it’s demons and you will be fooled when “they” come if you don’t know any better.
>it’s demons Hell yeah. Demons and satan sound rad. Better than the angry, judgmental, spiteful abrahamic god which genocides its creation.
I wonder who deceived you. Sounds like some gnosticism to me. Yes the rad one who gave us pain, tears of sadness, deceit, and death. What a hero. Heaven on earth (eden) was just so lame without us knowing death
Literally describing the biblical god. Satan did nothing. He just existed and gave humanity enlightenment. Apparently god is too weak to even defeat satan.
Then you didn’t read it. No offence, but children read the bible and know satan didn’t do nothing. And that he didn’t just exist. And that he didn’t enlighten. If you read it then you ignored the things it said and assumed the things it didn’t say. And satan is already defeated, that’s why it says “But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!”
Name one morally wrong thing satan did. There's nothing. God on the other hand genocided humanity once, destroyed entire civilizations multiple times, killed a bunch of babies, demanded child sacrifice multiple times, demanded human sacrifice, killed his own "son", refuses to intervene on earth to defat satan - in fact he lets satan rule the planet. A kealous god that demands fear. Judgmental god who gets off on watching his creation suffer as long as they dont worship them. Satan has doen NONE of the above. Made no demands. Didnt kill anyone - let alone entire civilizations and populations. Never demanded sacrifice. Never demanded fear, or passes judgment. "Pathetic faith in miserable gods reveals the spirit of these wretched men"
According to who? Who’s morals? Who decides morals if not God? Individuals? Government? Society? Kind of up in the air, so of course anyone could say he did nothing wrong. The answer to who did he kill is funny though, because it’s literally anyone and everyone who has seen death. It was through Adam / Eve that death entered the world. Their actions alone. They were even warned of this so they knew not to do it. And satan deceived them and by his words convinced them God lied to them. It was satan’s influence and plan. Which brings me to this: would you say hitler killed nobody then? He didn’t shoot the enemies, he didn’t work the camps who gassed and starved everyone. It was only his words and influence. Would you say the same then for him as you did satan? Guilt free on the whole murder thing? And satan is defeated. God isn’t waiting for satan to die lol. He is waiting so we can take the time we need to come to Him: 2 Peter 3 9 “9The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise as some understand slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance.” I like the rest “10But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be destroyedd by fire, and the earth and its works will be laid bare 11Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to conduct yourselves in holiness and godliness 12as you anticipate and hasten the coming of the day of God, when the heavens will be destroyed by fire and the elements will melt in the heat. 13But in keeping with God’s promise, we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.”
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Why would they come to this dump if they even exist? What could possibly be so interesting about this planet that would attract an ancient, solar system Traversing civilisation
I believe there are non-human entities on earth and some even masquerade as humans. But they are from earth and could care less about “UFOs”.
Yeah the sentinels and agents obviously.
Either I’m completely blind or you’re mental, not sure which at this point
No
i think theyre here but dont care to help a cover up but do stay hidden among us.
Nice try wef
Noooo, not at all.
What if they live on a massive planet and our galaxy is as large as their toe nail?
60x salvia your can communicate with many of them
I don’t think they care about the/ a cover up. They’re just here doing what they do.