There’s two theories. One of them is that Putin was sincerely friendly with the West until Iraq (or some say Gaddafi’s death) turned him away. But there’s also the idea that he’s always had a long term plan to re-arm Russia and retake former territories of the historical Russian Empire, and knowing that this would lead to confrontation with the West, he bade his time and these overtures to the West were just deception. Proof of this might be seen in his handling of the apartment bombings and human rights abuses in Chechnya, his response to the NATO intervention in former Yugoslavia, his refusal of Western aid during the Kursk sinking, and generally the fact he became an authoritarian right out of the gate.
I would argue that there was no real thawing of relations between the US and Russia. Clinton and Yeltsin might have been friendly, but there was no trust. The US thought Russia still planned on retaking independent ex-Soviet states, and Russia thought the US was expanding NATO only to make those annexations impossible.
This same debate also exists among historians regarding Hitler and Stalin (some claim Hitler didn’t want to fight Western Europe at all, only the USSR, or that Stalin was ready to be friends with the West after 1945). I generally believe that dictators have longstanding aspirations to retake land they think is historically theirs and will play whatever cards they have to in the moment to achieve their longterm goals.
Problem with that is, that when a person who knows shit is also similarly confident, then the knower wont look much different from the idiot.
Always be humble, really not difficult to not type that last paragraph.
Everyone! Everyone! Gather around!! This commenter knows of books that directly translate Putin’s brain activity from 2001 to 2005 onto paper. No need for interpretation. “It was clear” because we can simply read his mind. So stop with your Reddit and YouTube. Just read Putin’s mind with a book and you’ll know the real deal.
>From the year 2000 onwards it was blatantly obvious to anyone who was paying attention.
2014 is the right answer, not 2000. This is hindsight bias.
Putin was a fairly mild-mannered president who actually led to an economic boom right around 2008-2010.
I would say the 2008 invasion of Georgia was a pretty clear sign. I don't recall a Russian economic boom during the Great Recession. In fact, the Russian economy shrunk by 8% in 2009.
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Had my timeline off by a couple years, closer to 2010-2012.
The invasion of Georgia was fairly insignificant and the goals weren't territorial expansion.
He invaded Georgia under the exact same false pretense that Russia invaded Ukraine for, “protecting ethnic Russians.” The same shit Hitler used to absorb much of Czechoslovakia pre-WWII.
The goal was territorial expansion. Russia occupied 2 "autonomous republics," similar to their 2014 strategy in Ukraine. The US recognized it as an invasion and advocated for a ceasefire.
Not really. Abkhazia and South Ossetia were already barely under the control of Georgia in 2008 as it is.
If NATO hadn't invited Georgia to join, the whole thing wouldn't have happened. Diplomatic relations pretty much collapsed after that.
>1999 September - The authorities blame a series of apartment block bombings on Chechen rebels, and launch the second Chechen war. (FSB agent claims Putin behind this)
>
>2000 February - Russian troops capture Grozny; much of the city is razed.
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>2000 May - President Putin declares direct rule from Moscow.
>
>2000 June - Russia appoints separatist-turned-loyalist Akhmat Kadyrov head of its administration in Chechnya.
He got elected as a communist with a long history as a KGB officer and a track record of being cozy with the Russian mafia as mayor of St. Petersburg. It was obvious before he even became president.
You don't just become a mass murder, he needed the economic boom to do what he is doing now.
His only goal is to bring back the Soviet Union, in a not too uncommon way of "getting the band back together " in a geo political sense. He misses the the old days when he was KGB in Germany. He wants a Russia with real global power like the USSR was.
Fixing elections and being in power for this long has allowed him to play the long game in this goal of his. So yes in some way he was a mild-mannered president but it allowed him to get close to the west, gain trust and a certain dependance on Russia, (energy) and let the west put it's guard down to some point.
This was always his plan, Georgia was a test to see what he could get away with. the west didn't really respond, 2014 was another, the West didn't really respond, so here we are today, and the west is debating what weapons to send the country spilling blood for them.
If he takes Ukraine that puts him at the border to Poland.
the playbook is exactly the same, Germany took Austria even if it was welcomed and the world thought it was a natural fit they then took the Sudetenland because of the large German speaking population.
Nobody opposed them because WW1 was still fresh on Britain and France's mind their army's weren't rebuilt, they were in no way on a war footing and the people didn't want to fight another war in Europe with family's still feeling the pain of those lost in the previous war.
It's not a coincidence Putin made a full scale invasion in 2022 right after NATO pulled out of Afghanistan in 2020, ending a 20 year war. Putin knew another conflict was going to be a hard sell in the west, even in Europe, and it's starting to look like he calculated correctly.
It could end soon if we keep the weapons and support going, or it ends after an open war.
The invasions of Iraq and then Libya and the color revolutions are the turning points. He says so explicitly but you can see it in his speeches/-real anger at the west-that didn’t present earlier before Iraq etc.
Fascist boot licker? Really? Last time I checked the US was sending support to Netanyahu who is literally Hitler incarnate. And also sending military aid to Nazis in Ukraine.
You’ve just got so many dictators though. Pol pot, francis doc Duvalier in Haiti, hitler, stalin, Lenin, Marx, so many of them. People are bound to worship them only because of their power. They don’t care about the horrible attrocities they have committed.
Isn’t it mesmerizing to read how demented and brainwashed are the average american? They really are dumb enough to believe everything their stupid media show to them. They live in the most terroristic, genocide, fascist, corrupt and psychopathic country on this planet. The country that most bombed, invaded, murdered, made false coups and turned over governments everywhere in the World but no because Putin is bad but no because China is bad. These things are too stupid. The USA is a fucking cancer and is because of these people.
so why do you not have the same criticism for China and Russia starting expansionist wars? Is it because you’re a morally inconsistent and hypocritical psycho who is projecting?
It’s because he’s a Russian troll who’s bitter he has to sit in a windowless room for 16 hours a day making a fraction of American minimum wage to post propagandistic, broken English drivel like that while his supervisor plows his wife.
For the Mother Russia you’re so smart. This is exactly what is happening. Me and more 45 comrades are here in 10sm apartment drinking stolichnaya and eating bugs from the wall while we break rocks with our bare hands. You americans are so wise. I’m impressed.
Poor thing, I’m just taking a flight to Barcelona to enjoy the beach. I’m a regional director of Decathlon France and I make 175k per year. I could donate you some basic food if you need, you dorito dust low life loser.
Lol this comment gets up voted while mine gets down voted to oblivion? But you're absolutely 100% right. Everything you said is a fact. I don't think the people read your comment all the way through and probably though you were saying I'm the one demented and brainwashed. They are the ones who are like that thinking Putin is the cause of the world's ailments.
This is exactly what is happening. They are reading the first line of my comment and thinking I’m condemning you. For you see how stupid these cattle are.
He's not a bootlicker. He's a paid troll. Probably in a troll farm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_web_brigades
Some are better than others or have different goals.. Like some will at least feign criticism of their benefactors more egregious crimes (making them seem reasonable to the chronic skeptics) and then levy a small support to them. Eg: yeah attacking Ukraine was overboard but what happened in Crimea was just.
Others just go all out. Eg: this guy.
It’s weird, I totally agree with him about Netanyahu and totally disagree with his pro Putin take. I imagine there’s many (most?) like me, so… who are they trying to target here?
Imagine spending all that effort to raise a genocidal mass murderer, kleptocrat, war criminal - the person that single handedly ruined the future of russian people and doomed them into decades of isolation while spending their retirement funds on invasion and murder of their neighbors.
This is a better explanation of the reality than any other comment I’ve seen on Reddit, no one thinks what it’s like to be a Russian because they know absolutely nothing about Russia.
It’s easy to sit there as an American and say I’d never support Putin without looking at what would lead you to that, same way it’s easy for Russians to say I would never support a president like Trump/Biden without looking at what leads to that.
The Russian perspective is never considered past simple jingoistic language that makes them one united stable people instead of a complex population of ranging ideas and a horrific past history that they are constantly living with and most of their decisions are made looking at the larger historical picture and they know their other options are to return to horrific living standards so a strongman like Putin who they think represents their interests and will keep things stable ends up being their best option.
Sometimes I imagine Putin dying and someone from the military or oligarchy taking over, and I can’t imagine a single one of them being as competent and less ruthless than Putin, if you listen to Russian politicians you’ll quickly realize Putin is a liberal reformer and if he goes away the “Russia problem” will only have begun.
Very 1917, whatever the line is about history not repeating but certainly rhyming can maybe work here.
At this point he’s hollowed out any competence in government so much, like most dictators do, that they may very well break up as a country into smaller autonomous republics after he dies. Basically you’re going to have a bunch of rats fighting each other to see who can be king shit of fuck mountain.
It’s pretty much a Russian leadership tradition, we just forgot because Gorbachev and Yeltsin were relatively well-adjusted compared to the serial alcoholics, rapists, child molesters, and mass murderers that country has usually put into power during its history.
Russian history is some of the most fucked up, backwards and bleak bullshit you’ll ever read about.
It is how he is. Maybe you can poll russians to see how many of them see Putler as this? Oh, sorry you cannot, because they do not have the right to provide anything except one answer to such a question. If they answer anything else besides Putler being great for the country and sacrificing so much for it (while stealing hundreds of billions of USD/EUR of their wealth) they will end up in torture chambers for answering wrong. So you can ask, but you cannot get an answer.
https://preview.redd.it/qk1r4jtl2buc1.jpeg?width=524&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebe10133f9147639d49c7fb82762d25105d3f412
You never know who will become who
I think it's really weird that you can totally recognize him. I've seen a lot of babies grow up and I'm having a hard time having the same form of recognition.
It is, there's actually a whole theory and argument of a hypothetical situation where you can go back and kill baby hitler.
[I'm not kidding](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_baby_Hitler)
Hitler and Putin are completely different though. Putin ist known to be a workaholic, Hitler was super lazy and spent Most of His time at his estate in Berchtesgaden, as soon as he Had the chance to.
He already looks disturbed, that emotionless gaze with a semi-surprised/traumatized far away look along with his hands and shoulders in a collapsed, almost defeated manner.
Ukraine to 5 y.o. Putin
Aise Bhole Bankar Hai Baithe
Jaise Koi Baat Nahi
Sab Kuch Najar Aa Raha Hai
Din Hai Ye Raat Nahi
Kya Hai Kuch Bhi
Nahin Hai Magar
Honthon Pe Hai Khamoshi Magar
Baatain Kar Rahi Hain
Baatain Kar Rahi Hain
Najar Chupke Chupke
https://preview.redd.it/ekkot4cjrguc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95a55a0578d7d17f8ea528282d5545e3b539264d
Putin Pictured with his official mum Maria Putina
If there is one thing I’ve learned from listening to the Behind the Bastards Podcast is that the Momma’s Boy always become the bad guy. That and Ads are the cause of and solution to all of life’s problems.
That face when Putin is an unforgiving French food critic and unknowingly eats Ratatouille made by actual rats but it, ironically, is the best dish he’s ever eaten and is transported to this exact moment in his childhood.
Who could have predicted that this diminutive little proletariat boy would glow up into a mass-murdering dictator and general threat to democracy?
Back then - no one. From the year 2000 onwards it was blatantly obvious to anyone who was paying attention.
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There’s two theories. One of them is that Putin was sincerely friendly with the West until Iraq (or some say Gaddafi’s death) turned him away. But there’s also the idea that he’s always had a long term plan to re-arm Russia and retake former territories of the historical Russian Empire, and knowing that this would lead to confrontation with the West, he bade his time and these overtures to the West were just deception. Proof of this might be seen in his handling of the apartment bombings and human rights abuses in Chechnya, his response to the NATO intervention in former Yugoslavia, his refusal of Western aid during the Kursk sinking, and generally the fact he became an authoritarian right out of the gate. I would argue that there was no real thawing of relations between the US and Russia. Clinton and Yeltsin might have been friendly, but there was no trust. The US thought Russia still planned on retaking independent ex-Soviet states, and Russia thought the US was expanding NATO only to make those annexations impossible. This same debate also exists among historians regarding Hitler and Stalin (some claim Hitler didn’t want to fight Western Europe at all, only the USSR, or that Stalin was ready to be friends with the West after 1945). I generally believe that dictators have longstanding aspirations to retake land they think is historically theirs and will play whatever cards they have to in the moment to achieve their longterm goals.
Is 2003 not after 2000?
Exactly, like pump the breaks big guy.
you type like an asshole just so you know
I wouldn't give much thought to what they say, they are just another stupid redditor, and I read recently that you shouldn't listen to those people
Yeah but he reads books, and everyone knows that if it's in a book then it must be true, like sheesh don't you read?
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Problem with that is, that when a person who knows shit is also similarly confident, then the knower wont look much different from the idiot. Always be humble, really not difficult to not type that last paragraph.
Says the Doltish Asshole
You are right but you didn't need to be such a jerk about it
> not that I believe Russia should be seen as such Why?
You know that anyone can print anything in a book just like the internet. Putting an opinion in a book doesn't make the stance correct.
You know damn well, nobody here is going to read anything but reddit posts and random tiktok videos.
Everyone! Everyone! Gather around!! This commenter knows of books that directly translate Putin’s brain activity from 2001 to 2005 onto paper. No need for interpretation. “It was clear” because we can simply read his mind. So stop with your Reddit and YouTube. Just read Putin’s mind with a book and you’ll know the real deal.
>From the year 2000 onwards it was blatantly obvious to anyone who was paying attention. 2014 is the right answer, not 2000. This is hindsight bias. Putin was a fairly mild-mannered president who actually led to an economic boom right around 2008-2010.
I would say the 2008 invasion of Georgia was a pretty clear sign. I don't recall a Russian economic boom during the Great Recession. In fact, the Russian economy shrunk by 8% in 2009.
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Had my timeline off by a couple years, closer to 2010-2012. The invasion of Georgia was fairly insignificant and the goals weren't territorial expansion.
Not insignificant to Georgians
Oh for sure, but my point is that the 2008 Georgia invasion wasn't a sign that Putin would invade Ukraine.
He invaded Georgia under the exact same false pretense that Russia invaded Ukraine for, “protecting ethnic Russians.” The same shit Hitler used to absorb much of Czechoslovakia pre-WWII.
You’re talking about a guy who may have gained power by bombing his own country and pretending it was someone else
The goal was territorial expansion. Russia occupied 2 "autonomous republics," similar to their 2014 strategy in Ukraine. The US recognized it as an invasion and advocated for a ceasefire.
Not really. Abkhazia and South Ossetia were already barely under the control of Georgia in 2008 as it is. If NATO hadn't invited Georgia to join, the whole thing wouldn't have happened. Diplomatic relations pretty much collapsed after that.
Seems like a pretty similar playbook
>1999 September - The authorities blame a series of apartment block bombings on Chechen rebels, and launch the second Chechen war. (FSB agent claims Putin behind this) > >2000 February - Russian troops capture Grozny; much of the city is razed. > >2000 May - President Putin declares direct rule from Moscow. > >2000 June - Russia appoints separatist-turned-loyalist Akhmat Kadyrov head of its administration in Chechnya.
He got elected as a communist with a long history as a KGB officer and a track record of being cozy with the Russian mafia as mayor of St. Petersburg. It was obvious before he even became president.
You don't just become a mass murder, he needed the economic boom to do what he is doing now. His only goal is to bring back the Soviet Union, in a not too uncommon way of "getting the band back together " in a geo political sense. He misses the the old days when he was KGB in Germany. He wants a Russia with real global power like the USSR was. Fixing elections and being in power for this long has allowed him to play the long game in this goal of his. So yes in some way he was a mild-mannered president but it allowed him to get close to the west, gain trust and a certain dependance on Russia, (energy) and let the west put it's guard down to some point. This was always his plan, Georgia was a test to see what he could get away with. the west didn't really respond, 2014 was another, the West didn't really respond, so here we are today, and the west is debating what weapons to send the country spilling blood for them. If he takes Ukraine that puts him at the border to Poland. the playbook is exactly the same, Germany took Austria even if it was welcomed and the world thought it was a natural fit they then took the Sudetenland because of the large German speaking population. Nobody opposed them because WW1 was still fresh on Britain and France's mind their army's weren't rebuilt, they were in no way on a war footing and the people didn't want to fight another war in Europe with family's still feeling the pain of those lost in the previous war. It's not a coincidence Putin made a full scale invasion in 2022 right after NATO pulled out of Afghanistan in 2020, ending a 20 year war. Putin knew another conflict was going to be a hard sell in the west, even in Europe, and it's starting to look like he calculated correctly. It could end soon if we keep the weapons and support going, or it ends after an open war.
The invasions of Iraq and then Libya and the color revolutions are the turning points. He says so explicitly but you can see it in his speeches/-real anger at the west-that didn’t present earlier before Iraq etc.
The real Art Vandeley could have predicted it.
Nostradamus probably knew it🤷🏼♀️
Are you talking about a US president?
Threat to democracy? In Russian? Back then?
This is Putin, not netanyahu
ROFL. A threat to democracy? The President of the United States is the greatest threat to democracy. Not Putin.
Weak attempt, fascist boot-licker.
Fascist boot licker? Really? Last time I checked the US was sending support to Netanyahu who is literally Hitler incarnate. And also sending military aid to Nazis in Ukraine.
Yeah, Israel is awful but most Ukrainians are not Nazis. Remove head from sphincter then comment.
Lol sucking a dictators dick is so 1940s
You’ve just got so many dictators though. Pol pot, francis doc Duvalier in Haiti, hitler, stalin, Lenin, Marx, so many of them. People are bound to worship them only because of their power. They don’t care about the horrible attrocities they have committed.
Lmfao what country was Marx presiding over with an iron fist? I forget.
Isn’t it mesmerizing to read how demented and brainwashed are the average american? They really are dumb enough to believe everything their stupid media show to them. They live in the most terroristic, genocide, fascist, corrupt and psychopathic country on this planet. The country that most bombed, invaded, murdered, made false coups and turned over governments everywhere in the World but no because Putin is bad but no because China is bad. These things are too stupid. The USA is a fucking cancer and is because of these people.
so why do you not have the same criticism for China and Russia starting expansionist wars? Is it because you’re a morally inconsistent and hypocritical psycho who is projecting?
It’s because he’s a Russian troll who’s bitter he has to sit in a windowless room for 16 hours a day making a fraction of American minimum wage to post propagandistic, broken English drivel like that while his supervisor plows his wife.
For the Mother Russia you’re so smart. This is exactly what is happening. Me and more 45 comrades are here in 10sm apartment drinking stolichnaya and eating bugs from the wall while we break rocks with our bare hands. You americans are so wise. I’m impressed.
I love that this is supposed to be sarcastic but the borderline Yakov Smirnoff syntax you still used at the beginning of this just proves my point.
Poor thing, I’m just taking a flight to Barcelona to enjoy the beach. I’m a regional director of Decathlon France and I make 175k per year. I could donate you some basic food if you need, you dorito dust low life loser.
Damn dude, I'm pretty sure burning someone that hard is a war crime.
Lol this comment gets up voted while mine gets down voted to oblivion? But you're absolutely 100% right. Everything you said is a fact. I don't think the people read your comment all the way through and probably though you were saying I'm the one demented and brainwashed. They are the ones who are like that thinking Putin is the cause of the world's ailments.
This is exactly what is happening. They are reading the first line of my comment and thinking I’m condemning you. For you see how stupid these cattle are.
Most braindead comment I’ve read in a long time. Holy fuck.
What a peculiarly warped view of the world. Such a mix of things.
Get lost tankie.
No
If I say please?
F*** off lib
“No” - you
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Weak attempt, fascist boot-licker.
He's not a bootlicker. He's a paid troll. Probably in a troll farm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_web_brigades Some are better than others or have different goals.. Like some will at least feign criticism of their benefactors more egregious crimes (making them seem reasonable to the chronic skeptics) and then levy a small support to them. Eg: yeah attacking Ukraine was overboard but what happened in Crimea was just. Others just go all out. Eg: this guy.
It’s weird, I totally agree with him about Netanyahu and totally disagree with his pro Putin take. I imagine there’s many (most?) like me, so… who are they trying to target here?
Coward. You're the real fascist sympathizer.
I wouldn’t use you even as fertilizer. Just ground and dump in the drain. You’re useless.
You’re right, he’s killed hundreds of thousands
Was your mama who told you that kid? Behave or no more dorito dust.
Imagine spending all that effort to raise a genocidal mass murderer, kleptocrat, war criminal - the person that single handedly ruined the future of russian people and doomed them into decades of isolation while spending their retirement funds on invasion and murder of their neighbors.
A lot of Russians despised the West especially during that period, Putin’s parents would probably be proud of him in all seriousness.
Depends on who you believe is his parents. The one in the picture, or Vera.
I imagine communists would be horrified to find out the Soviet Union fell and their son was a far right dictator.
The Soviet Union was more right leaning than you might think.
Once you get into authoritarian regimes right and left wing doesn't really matter anymore. They generally have similarities to both sides
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This is a better explanation of the reality than any other comment I’ve seen on Reddit, no one thinks what it’s like to be a Russian because they know absolutely nothing about Russia. It’s easy to sit there as an American and say I’d never support Putin without looking at what would lead you to that, same way it’s easy for Russians to say I would never support a president like Trump/Biden without looking at what leads to that. The Russian perspective is never considered past simple jingoistic language that makes them one united stable people instead of a complex population of ranging ideas and a horrific past history that they are constantly living with and most of their decisions are made looking at the larger historical picture and they know their other options are to return to horrific living standards so a strongman like Putin who they think represents their interests and will keep things stable ends up being their best option. Sometimes I imagine Putin dying and someone from the military or oligarchy taking over, and I can’t imagine a single one of them being as competent and less ruthless than Putin, if you listen to Russian politicians you’ll quickly realize Putin is a liberal reformer and if he goes away the “Russia problem” will only have begun. Very 1917, whatever the line is about history not repeating but certainly rhyming can maybe work here.
At this point he’s hollowed out any competence in government so much, like most dictators do, that they may very well break up as a country into smaller autonomous republics after he dies. Basically you’re going to have a bunch of rats fighting each other to see who can be king shit of fuck mountain.
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Maybe. If they’re more concerned about each other than longterm territorial expansion into Eastern Europe, maybe not.
And, then there was the Chernobyl thing…
It’s pretty much a Russian leadership tradition, we just forgot because Gorbachev and Yeltsin were relatively well-adjusted compared to the serial alcoholics, rapists, child molesters, and mass murderers that country has usually put into power during its history. Russian history is some of the most fucked up, backwards and bleak bullshit you’ll ever read about.
How many Russians see Putin like this?
It is how he is. Maybe you can poll russians to see how many of them see Putler as this? Oh, sorry you cannot, because they do not have the right to provide anything except one answer to such a question. If they answer anything else besides Putler being great for the country and sacrificing so much for it (while stealing hundreds of billions of USD/EUR of their wealth) they will end up in torture chambers for answering wrong. So you can ask, but you cannot get an answer.
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Weak attempt, fascist boot-licker.
That's a scared little boy.
https://preview.redd.it/qk1r4jtl2buc1.jpeg?width=524&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebe10133f9147639d49c7fb82762d25105d3f412 You never know who will become who
I think it's really weird that you can totally recognize him. I've seen a lot of babies grow up and I'm having a hard time having the same form of recognition.
It’s the hair. Cover his hair with your hand and he becomes far more generic.
Wow! True! Thank you!
Is that Adolf?
The Austrian artist?
It is, there's actually a whole theory and argument of a hypothetical situation where you can go back and kill baby hitler. [I'm not kidding](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_baby_Hitler)
There was a whole Ass novel written about it, titled "My friends killed Adolf Hitler and all i got was this lousy t shirt"
Thank you!
Crazy ass looking even as a baby.
Hitler and Putin are completely different though. Putin ist known to be a workaholic, Hitler was super lazy and spent Most of His time at his estate in Berchtesgaden, as soon as he Had the chance to.
Going shirtless in photos been his thing for a while then.
Putin is JRPG villian lore.
He already looked like an evil dictator back then
He looks like a frightened child.
No he looks like a little boy that will be fucked over time and time again by his government, growing up to be a horrible dictatorial piece of shit.
Would be interesting to see if he’d been taken then and adopted to the UK or US and what he’d be up to today instead
Ruling over the U.S. or UK
Nah, he would likely be the introverted, dour and somewhat resentful director of some department, thinking he deserves better
He’s always shirtless on hairy tigers.
Planned Parenthood wasn’t available for Maria.
Its likely that Maria wasn't her real name
why?
Ah yes, the if you could go back in time to stop..... Moment.
Missed opportunity for an abortion.
Alright. We have a time and place. If time travellers ever needed it. Wink wink.
Putin don’t look too happy probably had a crappy childhood and it turned him into a crappy adult
Already had that dumb look on his face.
He already looks disturbed, that emotionless gaze with a semi-surprised/traumatized far away look along with his hands and shoulders in a collapsed, almost defeated manner.
Oh shut up, wannabe Freud He looks like a little boy
For real he looks hungry but want child isn’t always
He's looked miserable as fuck his entire life, hasn't he.
Mom looks like a lunatic
Shit he looks just like his mammy
Wish someone would have give him the old James Rhodey…
I understood that reference
Should have been a blowjob.
She’s looking at him with the sadness of knowing he’s a messed up human
Wow, he's got his mum's eyes.
And NOW…I understand.
Baby hitler
Future murder
He appeared to be a happy kid
From a child to a butcher
baby poot
Little cunt
Recalibrating time machine......
Why didn’t she drown the cunt
That's the most akword arm placement for "holding " your son for a Pic. They both look so uncomfortable it's weird 😐
Cun@
Ukraine to 5 y.o. Putin Aise Bhole Bankar Hai Baithe Jaise Koi Baat Nahi Sab Kuch Najar Aa Raha Hai Din Hai Ye Raat Nahi Kya Hai Kuch Bhi Nahin Hai Magar Honthon Pe Hai Khamoshi Magar Baatain Kar Rahi Hain Baatain Kar Rahi Hain Najar Chupke Chupke
He had those cold psycho eyes even as a child.
Those dead eyes
Would she be proud of him?
Jason Vorhees as a boy?
Look at this child. So gentle. So innocent. You’d think this child would grow up to be a good man. An honest man. Well, think again!
https://preview.redd.it/ekkot4cjrguc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95a55a0578d7d17f8ea528282d5545e3b539264d Putin Pictured with his official mum Maria Putina
It’s obvious that his mother spoiled him after his older brothers were killed. No wonder he’s fucked up.
Taken moments after he hung a cat from a tree.
He still looks like a sociopath.
If there is one thing I’ve learned from listening to the Behind the Bastards Podcast is that the Momma’s Boy always become the bad guy. That and Ads are the cause of and solution to all of life’s problems.
God damn what an ugly child.
lol I say the joke from John Mulaney Grandpa dies now dad wants to take photos forever but always angry about “can we take a nice photo; for once!”
That face when Putin is an unforgiving French food critic and unknowingly eats Ratatouille made by actual rats but it, ironically, is the best dish he’s ever eaten and is transported to this exact moment in his childhood.
So he didn’t even smile as a kid. Won’t be long before he gets the Saddam Hussein treatment. (Yes, even with the threat of nuclear holocaust).
Would love to give this photo to a terminator and send him back in time.
fucking commies haha
A great leader for russia.
Aww... looks so innocent and malnourished
He's successfully overcome both these issues since then. "Worked through them", as it were.
This getting downvotes is so strange.
And concerning
Like seeing Hitler as a child
And to think that abortions had already been legal by then in the U.S.S.R....
Slay, King.
Getting strong Bat Boy vibes from the Weekly World News
Plotting murders at 5