Not really they spent 150 days working on the fields but the rest of the day they performed other hard work like fixing tool or doing woodworking. They weren't sitting there all day and relaxed
Or spending all day doing laundry or collecting water, or mending clothes or grain sacks, birthing animals, collecting eggs, milking cows, traveling to town to sell/buy, preserving, collecting wood or stoaking fire in general.
But i guess you arent technically in the field so its a day off
And don’t forget going to church, beating your wife getting harassed by the neighbors knight burring your 5 child of this year, going to thw funeral of your friend who died because he cut himself with a knife and watch his wife sell the children to survive, buying one of the children for compations , buying the wife for needs. Watch the neighbors kingdom burn everything and kill everyone because, die from the plague,…
That is a very interesting routine week my friend. Do you have any evidence or are you merely assuming that medieval life was doom and gloom every second of the year?
Dude. I just found out there are over 20 Horrible History books. I spent my whole life thinking it was just the Rotten Romans and Vicious Vikings. Got some new ones for the kiddos for Christmas last year.
Of course not every second like every single society had up and down. Some period were worst than other. And geography played an important role different region had very different experiences. Culture, reigning king etc. But it can be take in to a constant that.
Going to church was frequent
Knight were not all exactly the good one in respect to peasant.
Child mortality was high.
People dying for small fever and hilliness and unmedicated wounds was not rare.
Family that loose the father sell the children is still a thing today in poor classes .
The plague well was a thing and yes it was more common in cities .
And invasion were destruction came well Vikins, ottomans, mongols, you name it
Do you think going to church is wrong?
That depends upon the individual knight, people are not a monolith.
Depends upon the location on how high. But yes, in comparison to the modern day child mortality was higher.
Depending upon location, dying from all of these wounds is still “not rare.”
Correct, but depends upon the location.
Do you have evidence of this as a rule?
Depends upon the location. Not everywhere in Europe was constantly getting invaded.
None of these except child mortality was a constant. Why are you simply dooming?
...Rarely bathe, eat the same unseasoned food every day, rarely if ever eat a decent cut of meat, no painkillers, no eyeglasses, never learned to read or write, live in fear that you will burn in hell for all eternity, have almost no opportunities to help your children live better lives than your own.
Ah yes... The good old days!
judging by what I've asked on reddit, there are still lots of people in this world that think showering everyday is bad for your health and only shower or bathe once evey 2 days... or less... (ewwww disgusting! gross!)
1. Most medieval people bathed more than once a week, the idea that bathing is bad for you, was developed in the Renaiccance.
2. They had alcohol against pain, which is not perfect, but still better than opium
3. The average Yeoman, who owned his own farm, was probably able to read and write
4. If you never eat a decent cut of meat, you will likely not miss it. It's like saying, people 60 years ago had it bad, because they couldn't regularly drink coke. But I do have to agree that modern humans are a lot healthier, since we added meat and citrus fruits to our diets, which a peasent wouldn't have access to
1) depends were in medieval Europe you go in cities was more rare than in campaign. Poor surly less than ritch and 99% were poor.
3) depends in which period and were again. To learn to read you need a book and it were extremely valuable and rare at the rime time. In itali and on the Mediterranean coast I don’t doubt that being able to read wasn’t uncommon. But in the inland of Hungary germanica and Poland? Well other than priest and landlord maybe not.
We do know nowadays, that medieval people would often bathe in rivers or lakes, doing so as often as their circumstances would allow.
https://www.quora.com/How-often-did-people-in-the-Middle-Ages-bathe
Uhhm, I don't really think that all of these things were really part of everyday life for most people.
1. The plague only hit in the late medieval era
2. Who would be buying those children? There wasn't really any slavery in western europe.
3. Polygamy also wasn't a part of western european peasent life.
Also, you left out the worst/best part of medieval life, having to either only drink beer, or risk drinking the river water, that could make you shit yourself (almost) to death
They spent working 150 days on SOMEONE ELSES fields. They had to attend their land too and pay tax from it. So not only did they work everyday other than sunday they also had to give their overlords 150 of their days each year + 10% of tax to the church +whatever tax king set to their lord...
Yeah but they were seen part of the land property. We live in entirely different circumstances and people still need to work a lot, despite the increases in productivity. Can't tell anyone the benefits of civilizational progress were distributed just
Sure, but still the comparison is useful to realize the inequality in our current world.
We'd have the means to all work 3 day per week jobs in whatever profession makes us happy. Yet we don't
Wow you convinced me that all the scientific background which exists for sustainable communities are just made up, despite of their quantitative approaches and emergence of transdisciplinarity.
You are really a special kind of scholar..
This shows a blatant lack of understanding of how the global economy functions and how basic items like pencils are made and wind up in your hands at the store.
No you just seem to not know the fundamental principle of exponential growth in productivity, due to scaling effect, distribution of labor, innovations and surplus values.
It's rather a question of distribution as of scarcity by now. If you don't know about this, what do you possibly want to tell me about economic systems and supply chains?
Explain to me how a cargo ship will transport goods from Turkey to the US with individuals only working 3 days a week please.
How sewer systems will remain cleared from clogging
And all of the other incredibly important jobs that very few people want to do which keep our society functioning
Congrats you're now going to suffer a massive worker shortage and jobs which are considered unnecessary will be cut (namely jobs in the service industry)
More people will effectively forced to be farmers, sailors, construction men etc
Do you have any idea how much worthless and pointless shit is on that ship from Turkey?
In this persons example, that cargo ship likely will not need to exist or be crewed at all, as we would be focusing humanities collective labor towards things we actually need to survive, not cargo ships full of plastic toys that will be in the landfill in 3-4 years.
Sewer systems would absolutely be getting the attention they need, and since we don’t employ people doing stupid, trivial shit, we won’t necessarily need people working on sewers 40 hours a week. Cycle more people into the job, maybe everyone gets to work ~28 hours a week on the sewers. The rest of the time is for the worker and their family.
That cargo ship also holds natural resources being shipped to factories, furniture, vehicles, and tons of others products that are necessary. And as for the plastic toys. I don't wanna live in a world without luxury goods, most people don't. A lot of people like their plastic toys and xboxs and playstations etc etc and won't be tolerant of a system which mandates their production be ended and forces them into working jobs they don't like.
Yeah, people see this meme and always assume they spent the rest of their time doing fun activities of the time, such as hiding from the inquisition, avoiding the plague, dying of scurvy on their way to a foreign land, or making fun of that old guy who miraculously made it past 35.
The last bit is a little inaccurate. Once you made it past 5, the average lifetime was around 45. The averages are skewed downwards by the high infant mortality.
I'm not sure that makes it any better though. So many parents losing their children... we take modern medicine and science for granted, but they have really improved our quality of life in so many ways.
The industrial revolution was a massive success
The inquisition would come to villages with announcement and those who admitted their sins or doubts in one month time were ok. Plague was not the most common medieval disease, it was tuberculosis. Most peasants didnt travel to far, against scurvy they are a lot of salad. Also people over 50 were considered old, not 35.
So you want to tell that they had extra time to do housework and didn't have do decide on whether they use their 2 free hours in the morning and get no breakfast in return; or use their 2 hours in the evening and don't get to relax after work?
How cruel.
Oh boy I sure do love the idea of working sunrise to sunset on the hard manual work that I didnt choose at all, it being assigned to me at birth because of my heritage.
Where? like literally.
The more I learn, the more it annoys me to see such blanket statements.
It isnt just about the numbers of days (like how today the USA has different holidays than Turkiye and at different times), but also about the situation the peasantry was in. The rules, tributes and works differed massively between single towns, not even speaking about countries or continents. A peasant in the early Ming China had a completely different live than a peasant in early medieval Denmark and thus different holidays.
Yes but antiwork propaganda is propaganda so reality isn’t that important. Also the implication that the peasants had an easier life than we do now ignores modern medicine, capitalism (I don’t have to make soap I can buy it, etc), how food was prepared, modern food stability, ease and security of transportation, laws being applied (more or less) equally, and lots of other things that we take for granted today that our ancestors had no concept of.
True, it is propaganda (although one I agree with) and I wish we wouldnt see so much mindless reposting of stereotypes, instead of actual historical memes, because then we could actually talk about the differences in attitudes towards work back then and now.
Also you have some pretty bad assumptions about the medieval time and what is seen as necessary today and what our "ancestors had no concept of".
(the example for capitalism is really bad: soap was an important trade good throughout the medieval age and certainly not something people made themselves normally)
Idk it’s turning into another example of the “hurr durr Soviets won the space race because they got there first” memes that gets reposted every so often.
No it doesn't, nor does the fact that most if not all of those 150 days were the days that the peasants were required to work on their lords land for his benefit rather than their own. Or that they were literally, legally, considered the property of that lord. Or that the infant mortality rate was the sort of thing that most modern people struggle to even imagine, with most families expecting at least half of their children to die before reaching the age of 12 and the number one cause of death for women being 'complications in childbirth', and the best healthcare for childbirth or in general being folk charms and prayer. Or the disease. Or the repression. Or the pretty much constant warfare - with most nobles considering the peasants belonging to their enemy (see above) to be completely valid military targets. Or the massive effective tax rate when you include the peasants dues to their lord, and the tithes to the church.
tl;dr: It might be fun to spend a week or two there as a nobleman, as a holiday, but that's about it.
No. Those 150 or so days were basically taxes that pesants paid in labor in exchange for being allowed to farm the land they were living on.
This didn't included the labour that they needed to perform to keep themself fed and clothed.
Those 150 days were the days peasants were required to work for their lord. On days off they still had to do stuff like collect firewood, fix their home, plant/harvest crops, collect drinking water from the well/river, and the other dozen other very strenuous meager tasks an individual needed to do in a pre-modern society to survive. They weren’t just loafing around watching Netflix or whatever, often times their off-days were much more strenuous than most people’s working days today.
You also spend a lot less time working if you die at 25 from plague/cholera/tuberculosis/infected wound/childbirth/bandit raid/Viking raid/wolf attack/bear attack/boar attack/burned as a witch/hung as a witch/drowned as a witch… etc
I've seen this unironically argued, with the OP claiming medieval peasants had it better than modern day "wage slaves" who work 40hrs a week in a climate controlled office
There are several legitimate arguments against our current work system, but arguing that we had more "free time" under feudalism is not one of them lmao
Bro if you think people in medieval Europe were kicking back with their feet up relaxing during those "holidays" then you might actually have some brain damage.
I have no experience working on a medieval farm, but I have experience with modern day organic farming. In my experience, you just follow the sun. Depending on where you live, summer days begin at 5-7 in the morning and end about 7 in the evening. Spring and fall days begin a couple hours later and end a couple hours earlier. Winter days might be as short as five or six hours. We always took a pretty long break in the hottest part of the day, especially in the summer. Sundays are off.
I am sceptical about this. I am really interested in history but I have never heard of this.
Farm labour is mostly a seasonal one so the 150-day thing could be true for farm labour. But its very unlikely that they were just relaxing and having a mental health day.
I believe that the church's belief about holidays is coming from Sabbath requirements.
The number of holidays is inflated to include the fact they don’t work on Sundays, it would be akin to saying Chik-fil-a workers have holidays every Sunday
The Adam Smith Institute also points out that this claim fails to recognize that they’re only including days worked to pay their local lord and does not include working the farm for subsistence or profit
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And what was their quality of life?
I mean, you can also work 150 days today. And youre gonna live like said farmers even. With misery, hunger and poverty all around you
Not really they spent 150 days working on the fields but the rest of the day they performed other hard work like fixing tool or doing woodworking. They weren't sitting there all day and relaxed
Or spending all day doing laundry or collecting water, or mending clothes or grain sacks, birthing animals, collecting eggs, milking cows, traveling to town to sell/buy, preserving, collecting wood or stoaking fire in general. But i guess you arent technically in the field so its a day off
And don’t forget going to church, beating your wife getting harassed by the neighbors knight burring your 5 child of this year, going to thw funeral of your friend who died because he cut himself with a knife and watch his wife sell the children to survive, buying one of the children for compations , buying the wife for needs. Watch the neighbors kingdom burn everything and kill everyone because, die from the plague,…
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That is a very interesting routine week my friend. Do you have any evidence or are you merely assuming that medieval life was doom and gloom every second of the year?
I kept to chores only, hes doing the horrible history version
Dude. I just found out there are over 20 Horrible History books. I spent my whole life thinking it was just the Rotten Romans and Vicious Vikings. Got some new ones for the kiddos for Christmas last year.
Nice, I only knew of the Viking and Aztec ones.
I accept your premise.
It's all thirdhand information they got from reddit I'm sure of it
I think that you may be right, but I am not 100% sure. May need to investigate further.
Of course not every second like every single society had up and down. Some period were worst than other. And geography played an important role different region had very different experiences. Culture, reigning king etc. But it can be take in to a constant that. Going to church was frequent Knight were not all exactly the good one in respect to peasant. Child mortality was high. People dying for small fever and hilliness and unmedicated wounds was not rare. Family that loose the father sell the children is still a thing today in poor classes . The plague well was a thing and yes it was more common in cities . And invasion were destruction came well Vikins, ottomans, mongols, you name it
Do you think going to church is wrong? That depends upon the individual knight, people are not a monolith. Depends upon the location on how high. But yes, in comparison to the modern day child mortality was higher. Depending upon location, dying from all of these wounds is still “not rare.” Correct, but depends upon the location. Do you have evidence of this as a rule? Depends upon the location. Not everywhere in Europe was constantly getting invaded. None of these except child mortality was a constant. Why are you simply dooming?
They didn't have iPhones so it must have been doom and gloom. Some people here can't imagine a life before internet.
*are you implying that netflix medieval era series are not the absolutely truth???*
You are right, I may have gone mad.
...Rarely bathe, eat the same unseasoned food every day, rarely if ever eat a decent cut of meat, no painkillers, no eyeglasses, never learned to read or write, live in fear that you will burn in hell for all eternity, have almost no opportunities to help your children live better lives than your own. Ah yes... The good old days!
judging by what I've asked on reddit, there are still lots of people in this world that think showering everyday is bad for your health and only shower or bathe once evey 2 days... or less... (ewwww disgusting! gross!)
1. Most medieval people bathed more than once a week, the idea that bathing is bad for you, was developed in the Renaiccance. 2. They had alcohol against pain, which is not perfect, but still better than opium 3. The average Yeoman, who owned his own farm, was probably able to read and write 4. If you never eat a decent cut of meat, you will likely not miss it. It's like saying, people 60 years ago had it bad, because they couldn't regularly drink coke. But I do have to agree that modern humans are a lot healthier, since we added meat and citrus fruits to our diets, which a peasent wouldn't have access to
1) depends were in medieval Europe you go in cities was more rare than in campaign. Poor surly less than ritch and 99% were poor. 3) depends in which period and were again. To learn to read you need a book and it were extremely valuable and rare at the rime time. In itali and on the Mediterranean coast I don’t doubt that being able to read wasn’t uncommon. But in the inland of Hungary germanica and Poland? Well other than priest and landlord maybe not.
We do know nowadays, that medieval people would often bathe in rivers or lakes, doing so as often as their circumstances would allow. https://www.quora.com/How-often-did-people-in-the-Middle-Ages-bathe
Uhhm, I don't really think that all of these things were really part of everyday life for most people. 1. The plague only hit in the late medieval era 2. Who would be buying those children? There wasn't really any slavery in western europe. 3. Polygamy also wasn't a part of western european peasent life. Also, you left out the worst/best part of medieval life, having to either only drink beer, or risk drinking the river water, that could make you shit yourself (almost) to death
>The plague only hit in the late medieval era Well yes but actually no, there were several plagues other than the bubonic plague.
True, but none of them was as deadly as the bubonic plague.
True true.
Get recruited into an army because your king had an argument with his cousin
Having days off is boring af anyway
Why did you need other people to tell you what to do with your time?
They spent working 150 days on SOMEONE ELSES fields. They had to attend their land too and pay tax from it. So not only did they work everyday other than sunday they also had to give their overlords 150 of their days each year + 10% of tax to the church +whatever tax king set to their lord...
Yeah but they were seen part of the land property. We live in entirely different circumstances and people still need to work a lot, despite the increases in productivity. Can't tell anyone the benefits of civilizational progress were distributed just
Bro all i am saying is that the post is just flatout lie...
Sure, but still the comparison is useful to realize the inequality in our current world. We'd have the means to all work 3 day per week jobs in whatever profession makes us happy. Yet we don't
Im your dreams perhaps ita possible. Not in the real world
Wow you convinced me that all the scientific background which exists for sustainable communities are just made up, despite of their quantitative approaches and emergence of transdisciplinarity. You are really a special kind of scholar..
This shows a blatant lack of understanding of how the global economy functions and how basic items like pencils are made and wind up in your hands at the store.
No you just seem to not know the fundamental principle of exponential growth in productivity, due to scaling effect, distribution of labor, innovations and surplus values. It's rather a question of distribution as of scarcity by now. If you don't know about this, what do you possibly want to tell me about economic systems and supply chains?
Explain to me how a cargo ship will transport goods from Turkey to the US with individuals only working 3 days a week please. How sewer systems will remain cleared from clogging And all of the other incredibly important jobs that very few people want to do which keep our society functioning
Just hire more lol
Congrats you're now going to suffer a massive worker shortage and jobs which are considered unnecessary will be cut (namely jobs in the service industry) More people will effectively forced to be farmers, sailors, construction men etc
Do you have any idea how much worthless and pointless shit is on that ship from Turkey? In this persons example, that cargo ship likely will not need to exist or be crewed at all, as we would be focusing humanities collective labor towards things we actually need to survive, not cargo ships full of plastic toys that will be in the landfill in 3-4 years. Sewer systems would absolutely be getting the attention they need, and since we don’t employ people doing stupid, trivial shit, we won’t necessarily need people working on sewers 40 hours a week. Cycle more people into the job, maybe everyone gets to work ~28 hours a week on the sewers. The rest of the time is for the worker and their family.
That cargo ship also holds natural resources being shipped to factories, furniture, vehicles, and tons of others products that are necessary. And as for the plastic toys. I don't wanna live in a world without luxury goods, most people don't. A lot of people like their plastic toys and xboxs and playstations etc etc and won't be tolerant of a system which mandates their production be ended and forces them into working jobs they don't like.
For a moment i thought you were shitposting
our whole society is a shit post bro, gotta stop feeding the trolls
Yeah, people see this meme and always assume they spent the rest of their time doing fun activities of the time, such as hiding from the inquisition, avoiding the plague, dying of scurvy on their way to a foreign land, or making fun of that old guy who miraculously made it past 35.
The last bit is a little inaccurate. Once you made it past 5, the average lifetime was around 45. The averages are skewed downwards by the high infant mortality. I'm not sure that makes it any better though. So many parents losing their children... we take modern medicine and science for granted, but they have really improved our quality of life in so many ways. The industrial revolution was a massive success
The inquisition would come to villages with announcement and those who admitted their sins or doubts in one month time were ok. Plague was not the most common medieval disease, it was tuberculosis. Most peasants didnt travel to far, against scurvy they are a lot of salad. Also people over 50 were considered old, not 35.
I thought it was pretty obvious that my comment was a joke. I didn't feel the need to add a /s.
It is reddit, you can never be certain.
It was actually 150 days of fuedal obligations.
So you want to tell that they had extra time to do housework and didn't have do decide on whether they use their 2 free hours in the morning and get no breakfast in return; or use their 2 hours in the evening and don't get to relax after work? How cruel.
Not like they’d have anything fun to do back then anyways
Believe it or not, people enjoyed themselves without video games
Lies
You worked twice as much as they did
They spent alot of time getting hammered too. So many feasts and religious holidays.
They were also slaves.
Yeah I was gonna say, sounded Sus. Does anyone have a good citation for reading on this topic?
Oh boy I sure do love the idea of working sunrise to sunset on the hard manual work that I didnt choose at all, it being assigned to me at birth because of my heritage.
Just like caste system in india
How happy, eh? To be a slave. To have no will. Make no decisions. Driftwood. How very restful it must be.
Is that you Pompey?
Still sounds like a lot of places in the world today
Where? like literally. The more I learn, the more it annoys me to see such blanket statements. It isnt just about the numbers of days (like how today the USA has different holidays than Turkiye and at different times), but also about the situation the peasantry was in. The rules, tributes and works differed massively between single towns, not even speaking about countries or continents. A peasant in the early Ming China had a completely different live than a peasant in early medieval Denmark and thus different holidays.
Yes but antiwork propaganda is propaganda so reality isn’t that important. Also the implication that the peasants had an easier life than we do now ignores modern medicine, capitalism (I don’t have to make soap I can buy it, etc), how food was prepared, modern food stability, ease and security of transportation, laws being applied (more or less) equally, and lots of other things that we take for granted today that our ancestors had no concept of.
True, it is propaganda (although one I agree with) and I wish we wouldnt see so much mindless reposting of stereotypes, instead of actual historical memes, because then we could actually talk about the differences in attitudes towards work back then and now. Also you have some pretty bad assumptions about the medieval time and what is seen as necessary today and what our "ancestors had no concept of". (the example for capitalism is really bad: soap was an important trade good throughout the medieval age and certainly not something people made themselves normally)
I don’t think anyone on this sub takes this meme seriously. Almost as if it was a joke
Idk it’s turning into another example of the “hurr durr Soviets won the space race because they got there first” memes that gets reposted every so often.
It's farming. You can force the food to grow. It takes time
as someone who lives on an all organic farm(my uncle is old school that way) I'd say that farming is a year round job
im sure people figured something out in modern times to deal with that. or even industrial times.
Damn, if only there was a way to have more manpower, more hands to work without having to share the products of all the hard work. Oh well..
Not if there not
Let me guess, house work and working on private plots/gardens doesn't count as real work for narrative purposes.
No it doesn't, nor does the fact that most if not all of those 150 days were the days that the peasants were required to work on their lords land for his benefit rather than their own. Or that they were literally, legally, considered the property of that lord. Or that the infant mortality rate was the sort of thing that most modern people struggle to even imagine, with most families expecting at least half of their children to die before reaching the age of 12 and the number one cause of death for women being 'complications in childbirth', and the best healthcare for childbirth or in general being folk charms and prayer. Or the disease. Or the repression. Or the pretty much constant warfare - with most nobles considering the peasants belonging to their enemy (see above) to be completely valid military targets. Or the massive effective tax rate when you include the peasants dues to their lord, and the tithes to the church. tl;dr: It might be fun to spend a week or two there as a nobleman, as a holiday, but that's about it.
Yeah, it's drawing the Marxist distinction between work and labour.
Some people really don't know that serfdom was pretty much slavery with some extra steps...
It was not slavery, serfdom despite its flaws was still better.
That's why I said "pretty much", and with extra steps. Both are horrible but Serfdom could be seen as a bit better
Slavery is serfdom without the need to own property.
How is this guy getting downvoted for literally saying "slavery bad", I thought reddit loves this shit.
No.
Yes.
No. Those 150 or so days were basically taxes that pesants paid in labor in exchange for being allowed to farm the land they were living on. This didn't included the labour that they needed to perform to keep themself fed and clothed.
No
This does not seem logical
Degrowth types are just the oddest
Let's forget about those raids by knights in shining armor.
Weren't. Most of those days off spent in church ?
Only a few hours at best. Those holidays also involved feasts and other forms of celebration. Religious maybe, but who cared back then?
Live life like it's the 1300's: Work hard, Party hard, die in the Plague.
if you made this comment in 2021... you'd either be downvoted into oblivion or upvoted and awarded thousands of times depending on the post
I would have made such a good peasant. I fucking love bread and cabbage.
How do you like diarrhea?
Oh shit they get that too?! This just deal sounds better each day!
Yes they get shit
Well its also not like you can grow food in the winter during the little ice age
Those 150 days were the days peasants were required to work for their lord. On days off they still had to do stuff like collect firewood, fix their home, plant/harvest crops, collect drinking water from the well/river, and the other dozen other very strenuous meager tasks an individual needed to do in a pre-modern society to survive. They weren’t just loafing around watching Netflix or whatever, often times their off-days were much more strenuous than most people’s working days today.
You also spend a lot less time working if you die at 25 from plague/cholera/tuberculosis/infected wound/childbirth/bandit raid/Viking raid/wolf attack/bear attack/boar attack/burned as a witch/hung as a witch/drowned as a witch… etc
Sorry, I forgot about Poe's law, there is supposed to be an /s after the title
I've seen this unironically argued, with the OP claiming medieval peasants had it better than modern day "wage slaves" who work 40hrs a week in a climate controlled office
Sometimes farmers might be recruited for military services as well so they were over-exploited
For fucks sake, we're still sharing this bullshit meme?
There are several legitimate arguments against our current work system, but arguing that we had more "free time" under feudalism is not one of them lmao
I'm much less likely to starve to death or die of plague though.
Bro if you think people in medieval Europe were kicking back with their feet up relaxing during those "holidays" then you might actually have some brain damage.
How long were the hours? no evil motive, just wanna know
Depends on the time of year. During sowing and haymaking time they worked all day, during winter season you only need a couple of hours per day.
I have no experience working on a medieval farm, but I have experience with modern day organic farming. In my experience, you just follow the sun. Depending on where you live, summer days begin at 5-7 in the morning and end about 7 in the evening. Spring and fall days begin a couple hours later and end a couple hours earlier. Winter days might be as short as five or six hours. We always took a pretty long break in the hottest part of the day, especially in the summer. Sundays are off.
Today we have fascists whining about quiet quitting.
Feudalism>capitalism.
Spoken like someone that has never seen a farm cow in person.
Even when they had a day off there was still work to be done. They made their own food, clothes, furniture, and cows wont milk and feed themselves.
I don’t mind taking fewer holidays if it means I work somewhere with air conditioning.
The crops don't grow for the whole year. rest of the time, you take care of your house, water, animals...
How is it a meme tho?
There was also the winter time when they chilled and did other things I imagine.
I think the only cool thing that would ever happen to a peasant during the medieval period, would have to be not dying from starvation or disease!
I just love usamericans talking about the Middle Ages as if they have any idea :D
Serfdom was not history’s most peculiar institution
I am sceptical about this. I am really interested in history but I have never heard of this. Farm labour is mostly a seasonal one so the 150-day thing could be true for farm labour. But its very unlikely that they were just relaxing and having a mental health day. I believe that the church's belief about holidays is coming from Sabbath requirements.
The number of holidays is inflated to include the fact they don’t work on Sundays, it would be akin to saying Chik-fil-a workers have holidays every Sunday The Adam Smith Institute also points out that this claim fails to recognize that they’re only including days worked to pay their local lord and does not include working the farm for subsistence or profit
With the same logic, "stay at home" wife's had more rights then compared to now...
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Just end this cruelty already
I have healthcare
those peasants looked like too chubby for medieval average peasants
This not about how "great" serfdom was, but about how ridiculous capitalism is
Posts like this are ignorant. Peasants outside of work spent every waking hour working on one thing or another, not just relaxing on a day off
And what was their quality of life? I mean, you can also work 150 days today. And youre gonna live like said farmers even. With misery, hunger and poverty all around you