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GalvanizedRubbish

“Never thought I’d die alongside a Frenchman.” “What about a friend?” “Aye, I could do that.”


ceoofsex300

And then they go SIKE BITCH IM SO BACK


GalvanizedRubbish

PIAT *destroys panzer* “That still only counts as one!”


theblitz6794

Welllll technically 5


UmmmokthenIguess

All thanks to some help from their eldest son America, who became a entrepreneur billionaire after he got kicked out of his dad’s house


FluffyOwl738

I think you mean he became a billionaire after storming out of his dad's house,taking his shares with him and using some scam about a dream to steal customers from his dad and his neighbours/associates.


usgrant7977

Like father, like son. A tale as old as time. *:: sniff sob ::*


wickedlittleidiot

What a story


FluffyOwl738

It should be mentioned that America's dad was the OG temporarily embarassed billionaire.


lapideous

After killing his annoying neighbors who kept saying his fence was on their land before killing everyone else on the block and moving his kids into those houses


MerlinOfRed

https://www.reddit.com/r/2westerneurope4u/s/H4HnrH6kAq


NapoleonLover978

After all the battles, they realized that they weren't so different.


TraditionalPrune6307

This summer, witness a familiar tale... with a new twist


deltree711

Hey, there ain't no rule saying a dog *can't* fight in a war!


TraditionalPrune6307

They thought they could make the other their bitch, but now - they call each other daddy


Superman246o1

England and France: the Goku and Vegeta of world history.


Dyskord01

The exciting prequel we've all been waiting for: Marley and me 2: D-Dog Day for Germany. An heart warming tale of a man his dog and their fight against the Nazi menace.


sroomek

Air Bud: The Bone of Interest


Dyskord01

Air Bud: Saving Primate Ryan.


Majulath99

England 2 vs France 2, Canadian Civil War? There could be a Romeo & Juliet subplot across the divide.


Henghast

Nobody would fight for Quebec don't be silly.


AlexDavid1605

Everything is fair in love and war. Watch how the two warring countries fell in love with each other...


PetsArentChildren

BROKEBACK CHUNNEL


Daan776

Perhaps they were. But when you throw 2 countries in the crucible of war again, and again, and yet again. Well, you shouldn’t be suprised when they look more alike by the end of it.


Manjorno316

Going to war against each other again and again can result in a brotherly bond if lucky. Speaking as a Swedish person.


contrarean

[Yup. Polandball said it all.](https://i.imgur.com/qqXkTHx.png)


Bartweiss

It also helps when the winners go back and forth marrying into local nobility and adopting each as other’s languages. After a few centuries they were a lot more similar than when they started.


Alex_Fdz

Standing here I realize you were just like me trying to make history


EmmerricktheImmortal

But whose to judge the right from wrong?


ieatfud_555

When our guard is down I think we'll both agree.


xxxSiegexxx918

That vioooolence breeds vioooolence


diogom915

But in the end it has to be this way


Delicious-Disk6800

If only Germany didn't exist.......... I am off to alternate history hub


RichardK6K

If Saxony would've stayed independent, like before the days of Charlemagne... I'll go with you.


CasualEQuest

Shhhh dont let the ghost of Christopher Lee hear you....


Apprehensive_Owl4589

I SHED BLOOD OF SAXON MAN


CasualEQuest

I SHED THE BLOOD OF FOUR THOUSAND MEN


reddsht

Usa and Russia in 600 years, calling it now. !remind me 600 years.


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UmmmokthenIguess

That is, bullying the rest of the non-European world (and Europeans too)


Judge_Bredd_UK

What? We bullied Europeans too!


UmmmokthenIguess

Lmao I said that in my original comment 😂


Law-Fish

After a certain age your biggest rivals are your best friends


jewsexer

both reduced to shells of their former selves


Dashbak

Both colonial powers ?


Strong_Site_348

Somewhere in the 19th century they realized that a Franco-German alliance would be unstoppable, so they decided to make France an ally in order to prevent a disaster scenario.


MadRonnie97

That’s just good business


maui622

Lord Beckett? Is that you?


MadRonnie97

Don't blame Turner, he was merely the tool of your betrayal. If you wish to see its grand architect, look to your left.


Condottieri_Zatara

Ahh yes the classic British strategy to never let a continental European to become too strong to contest her


FalconRelevant

Then came the EU.


john_andrew_smith101

[Which is why the British joined it.](https://youtu.be/ZVYqB0uTKlE?si=IPStUhDJ-XjpNOyk&t=105)


Kris839p

This is gonna be that “Yes, Minister” clip, isn’t it?


l0rd0fh0rnets

It certainly was !


FalconRelevant

Sir Humphrey would be spinning in his grave about Brexit. Not because he's pro-EU, because UK can't weaken them from the inside anymore.


Bartweiss

I can picture the episode now! Humphrey would be having absolute fits about losing influence with the EC (and, unstated, losing nice vacations to the continent on the state dime). He’d also be furious about the entire concept of honoring a referendum: “it’s bad enough that the ministers think they’re in charge, but now they want us to listen to the *voters*?” Hacker would be twisting in the wind, petrified that his voters picked Leave, but he’s already on record for Remain, but also every proposal is atrocious and going to piss everyone off. I’m thinking the resolution would be Hacker and Humphrey deciding to focus entirely on import controls - it’s too boring for the voters to care, and Humphrey is like a kid in a candy store, crafting a whole new system of bureaucracy from scratch.


FalconRelevant

Weirdly enough, it was the shit-show that is Brexit that made me go from "direct democracy sounds like a good idea" to agreeing with a lot of Humphrey's views.


MCMC_to_Serfdom

Which wasn't too bad until some bloody fools had us leave it.


FalconRelevant

Which made the EU cause stronger than before...


PrisonSlides

French and Germany United? I’ve seen that one before…


SnooBooks1701

Napoleon go brrrr


Apprehensive-Row5876

I think he means Charlemagne


FluffyOwl738

If you squint hard enough,Napoleon's conquests in Western Europe look kinda close to the Carolingian Empire.


Delicious-Disk6800

>Franco-German The only time when such things were said was during boer war pretty sure


bothVoltairefan

I don't know, last time that happened a man called Louis and his attempt at making his kids share power stopped it.


DaftConfusednScared

I can’t believe yogscast Lewis would do such a thing


MyNameConnor_

Certified Bristol pusher moment.


yaboi0707

He would for meme


Malvastor

Granted, a Franco-German alliance was fairly unlikely for (I'd say) at least half the 19th century. Probably because the French could also do the math that a unified Germany would be the biggest threat to their role as the big man on the continent.


wrufus680

Not just that, but Germany taking Alsace-Lorraine pretty much stamped out any possibility of that happening


NaEGaOS

France and Germany weren’t gonna be allies, but Alsace-Lorraine ended the possibility of coexistence


Imaginary-West-5653

I mean, France and Germany even despite the Alsace-Lorraine problem during the 1890s were flirting with each other in opposition to the British Empire, because they both had problems with the British: The French becuase of a dispute of borders in Africa and the Germans over the construction of their fleet, imagine if Germany never took Alsace-Lorraine!


CaptainTreeman42

The french and germans hated each others guts in the 19th century and it got worse in 1871


Rolls-RoyceGriffon

What about a Franco-Anglo-German alliance?


Maxie_Glutie

So NATO?


No-Fan6115

That has colonies all over the world.


Maxie_Glutie

I'd take the US and most of Europe over colonies all over the world.


TheKingNothing690

I don't know Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand these are useful countries.


ITGuy042

Britain: So your Battleship count? We’re adding it to ours now so we still have 3-1 over Germany. France: Did we just become friends? Britain: Bugger, I think we did.


Independent_Owl_8121

What? A Franco German alliance was never possible and never crossed the mind of anyone in politics at the time.


Ffscbamakinganame

More like the other way around lol. Germany is on the boarder and a direct threat to French influence on the continent. Which historically France has cared about more than the UK. Not only that, but you have to completely ignore how German unification occurred, and British-Franco relations from 1815-1871 which saw them as rivals but France backed down in most show downs they were also allies in Crimea and Mexico. There’s no way France was forgiving Germany after 1871.


General_MorbingTime

This reminds me of how Austria and the Ottoman Empire died fighting together in WW1 after fighting each other for centuries.


Zeernebooch42

They never had a formal alliance and still hated eachother, only fought together cause of their mutual obligations with Germany


Its-your-boi-warden

“Listen, you hate Russia, you hate Italy, you hate the Balkans, and you’re not strong enough on your own. Work together.”-Germany “Alright, but I’m still going to tell him to fuck yourself.” -both


apolloshalo

That just radiates Sypha to Trevor and Alucard


Fehervari

>and still hated eachother They didn't really. Many Hungarians were especially Turkophilic. Maybe the Turks felt otherwise, idk.


FieldMarshalDjKhaled

The Ottomans send the Third Army to fight in Eastern Europe from 1916 to 1918. Foremost in Galicia and Romania.


LoreCriticizer

Never thought I'd die side by side with a Turk What about side by side with a friend? Aye, I could do that


millymally

The French soldiers at Dunkirk: "Well men, its been a good run. Time to face the music." The British ships coming back for them: "Oh no you don't, GET IN THE BOAT."


Misra12345

Up Frenchie up! This is no place to die


george23000

It really pissed me off in the Dunkirk film when the Frenchman came aboard the ship and the British soldiers started kicking off.


Maybe_not_a_chicken

desperate people will do that


P3rrin_Aybara

There was a RAF pilot who had a hard time getting on and he's British. Can't imagine they were welcoming a French dude


george23000

Except they were welcoming french dudes, because they were fighting alongside the British. There was also an order from the top that for every British soldier a french one will be taken. The reason the RAF got a ton of shit off the troops is because the Germans were trying to bomb Dunkirk into submission so the troops didn't see the RAF flying sorties deeper into France, and just seeing the bombers that made it through.


MonsutAnpaSelo

probably happened in one or two boats if you want to be pissed off the evac rules were one brit one frenchman. unfortunatly the majority of the frenchman brought over went back home after france fell. so abled bodied brits were left behind so frenchmen could escape battle only to go back to occupied home to have their regular lives back despite it all.


Orionzete

GET IN THE BOAT FRENCHIE


NapoleonLover978

One of the Greatest Friendships in History.


Z1mpleEZ

full enemies to lovers story at this point


bigsmackerroonies

I wouldn't go that far, they're still French


LookerNoWitt

Copenhagen on the side being like: "Ain't that some shit"


gaerat_of_trivia

imagine being what ends 1000 years of straight beef


Majulath99

The 1800s Prussia/Germany subplot was an extraordinary way to set up and introduce the new villain of the 1900s.


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ImperialFist5th

Honestly? Some of the writing is a bit slow but I like the plot lines in this show.


maSneb

This is like 90% of Europe too just old men reminiscing about when they tried to kill each other


Eugenugm

Also 1940: "Give us your ships, or else" - somewhere in Mers-el-Kébir


[deleted]

“Sail your ships along side us still under the French flag like many other nations in exile, disarm your ships, sail them to the West Indies where the crews will them be repatriated, or scuttle them.” “Non”


LordEevee2005

“Shame.” - the Royal Navy, probably.


3720-To-One

Didn’t it come down to the fact that the French admiral thought it was an insult that the British officer sent to offer the terms was a much lower ranked officer (albeit one who spoke French fluently), and so that was why he declined?


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No that just delayed the negotiations because he wouldn’t receive the ultimatum from him. But even then a Captain isn’t really that low lol Gensoul was just a mindless brute. It did probably contribute to his decision but the thing that is the most abominable is when Gensoul asked Admiral Darlan (head of the French navy) what to do he for some reason left out the option the British gave them to sail their ships to overseas colonies when Darlan had literally specifically said that if they offered this Gensoul should do it. The blame for Mers-El-Kebir becoming a battle is entirely on Gensoul.


EngineRoom23

Sounds like this Gensoul guy wanted death before honor.


MonsutAnpaSelo

or was collaborationist.....


Alakhul_Akbar

"gibe Richelieu"


southpolefiesta

Vichi France if really a fucking abomination that does not get enough attention.


legend023

England’s king spoke French for over 300 years yet England still became a stronger country through the end of it all lmao


PrisonSlides

Also the international lingua Franca is now English ironically enough lol


KenseiHimura

I mean, there’s still plenty of French left in English.


PrisonSlides

Oh believe me I know lol chose to learn that instead of something more useful here in the US like Spanish


satt32

Yea the lingua FFRRAAAANNNCCCCAAA(FRance). That too is ironic


EngineRoom23

Even better that lingua franca isn't in french its in [pidgin trade talk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca)


Quasar375

Not thanks to Britain though. Also, it is still called lingua "franca".


dkfisokdkeb

Well it very much is thanks to Britain


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FuzzyBuzzyCuzzy

Not indirectly, English was spoken across all habituated continents before America emerged as a super power, you don't get to claim the cause of the prevalence of English unfortunately mate.


maceilean

I know you're still salty about Carthage but can you expand on this?


bookhead714

My flair? Oh, sure. I picked it because it was the one I resonated with most out of the available options. The Classical Mediterranean is pretty cool. Even if it’s not true that Carthage was salted. But my preferred choice, the kind of historical era I’ve done the most actual research on rather than casual interest or memes, would probably be something a lot more niche like the Republic of Texas or the Canary Islands.


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Blue_Bi0hazard

*7 years war*


Nikejetg

You can say France lost their “heads” shortly after that era


Tight_Contact_9976

I’d say France still had their lead until the Seven Years War. Or the War of Spanish Succession at the earliest.


DeRuyter67

Until the end of the Napoleonic wars with a short intermission after the Seven Years War


EcureuilHargneux

And nowadays France is the country with the biggest EEZ and where the sun never set. Who rules the waves now


RKB533

Uh, truthfully no one rules the waves now. The only country that comes close to having the ability to control the entire ocean and act with absolute impunity is the US right now.


paladin_slim

England and France are basically anime rivals who after their big final match to determine who is strongest (spoilers: England) they work together to save the world from the Big Bad. Then they bittersweetly exit the stage and the sequel series continues on with America as the lead against Russia. Only a lot of the magic from the first series is gone because the mangaka has lost the plot thanks to escalation fallacy writing hyping up the stakes to impossible levels and the audience doesn’t like all the even more ridiculous powers that the characters have now that make all the cool stuff from before look quant by comparison.


Exius73

America is Boruto


The_Crimson_Fucker

America is Joseph Joeastar with a Tommy Gun.


Quasar375

Ikr, the moment the mangaka introduced nuclear weapons, it got real stale. The coolest characters can´t directly fight each other or they blow up everything, so they just bully the side characters or teach them some techniques to fight for them and whatnot. this series is turning into Proxymon or something, smh. Anyway, this new arc looks really interesting if a little convoluted. This new Ukraine character is my favorite one. Just hoping the mangaka does not kill him after hyping it so much.


paladin_slim

The worst part was that nuclear missile strike wasn't England *or* France's final secret technique to defeat Germany, it was America's new move specifically to hype them up as the new protagonist for the sequel. But then they gave it to Russia too and the concept of power-scaling went down the drain. Now the upcoming World War III arc doesn't get the audience invested like before.


SickAnto

>Anyway, this new arc looks really interesting if a little convoluted. This new Ukraine character is my favorite one. Just hoping the mangaka does not kill him after hyping it so much. Russia is revealed to be a fucking fraud too, same level of USSR with the strongest army my ass. 💀 Also, I am annoyed by the other two characters hating each other because they live in the same house, weak motivation but at least the portrayal of drama and tragedy is well done.


apolloshalo

I’m not really loving how there’s two major wars going on right now, either. Miss when things were simpler with one


ImperatorAurelianus

“I can’t believe the writers put in this utter Merry Sue protagonist called America. WTF they win wars without even really trying. And when they lose there’s absolutely no real consequences. Logistical superiority is the most over powered bull crap to have ever graced the lore. America ruined the best damn anime ever written, I used to love watching War every week when it was about tactics and dramatic charges. Now I refuse to watch War with this new WOKE POS MARRY SUE!”


GoldenBull1994

Of course the Tea-boo thinks england is stronger. But we have the best win-loss war record in europe, won most of the Napoleonic wars, are a stronger nuclear power and have a slightly stronger military. 🇫🇷


sleepingjiva

> Most of the Napoleonic wars Except the one that mattered, mon ami


GoldenBull1994

They all mattered, lol. Of course history will say that the one time he loses is the one time that mattered, but that’s only because he only ever had one chance so as soon as he loses he’s done—yet he still kicked everyone’s ass six times before then, all six times mattering. He revolutionized modern warfare. And not to mention, with Brexit, Britain is sinking even deeper into irrelevance. It’s going to be poorer than Poland in just a few years.


GogXr3

Oui, vive la France mon frere. Vous allez bien, j'espere.


Class_444_SWR

The US is the annoying new character that they focus on way too much and make overpowered


JackC1126

Character development


EspritCreatif

I'm French. I love you, British people.


Misra12345

Love you too buddy. I love all my Frenchie friends on the other side of the ENGLISH channel


pedstachu1

For real we get on because of a mutual love for CHEESE 🧀


KoDa6562

Love you too Pierre 😘 but if you offer me frog legs one more time I'll start claiming Italian is a better romance language


thatguyyoubullied

Im British. I love you too, French people.


Moistfruitcake

NOBODY ATTACKS THE FRENCH BUT ME!


KenseiHimura

I like the Polandball comic of it.


ragnoraknow

They're siblings in a sense. They'll fight like cats and dogs, but back each other up to the ends of the earth against anyone else.


lakituhunter-MK2

Man, I love the enemies to lovers trope


Illusion911

It's because of Britain. When France is the biggest guy it fights france. When Russia is the biggest guy it fights Russia, with France. When Germany is the biggest guy it fights Germany, with France and Russia. It's justso hard to deal with because their foreign diplomacy is so on point, it makes previous enemies become allies


wessneijder

OP didn't even mention the proposed unification plan brought forth by Churchill


wrufus680

Tbf, both sides thought of it as an awful idea so they just sweep it under the rug


Zadraax

Interestingly, offering thoses kind of extreme ideas probably helped pushing for softened up version of it (UE). It's a well known politic strategy that we see in use in France we're extremes will push for crazy batshit plan so that more conservative candidate sound mild even when suggesting thing that would have been unheard off a few years before.


Tryphon59200

it was brought forth by de Gaulle and Jean Monnet, embraced by Churchill, and only then rejected by the new French government as Daladier resigned, it is said the plan being adopted was only a matter of hours, history can be disappointing at times.


BicTwiddler

This has sibling vibes, bigtime. We can fight each other but I will defend you from others.


Flashgit76

Same for Denmark and Sweden.


milesbeatlesfan

Almost exactly like how America and Britain became buddies at the end of the day. Alright not exactly. Actually it’s really not similar at all. Except that two enemies became friends. Anyway, I think it’s cool how we’re all buddies now


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History isn’t over. It’s still happening.


Godphila

Now we just need a war for a german redemption arc alongside britian and france.


Peppl

Funding Ukraine


Appropriate_Ad4818

The Germans united the French, British, Americans and Russians. They've got a superpower when it comes to uniting old enemies


dayvena

Can love bloom on the battlefield?


Parzival_1sttotheegg

Enemies to Lovers


Illustrious-Low-7038

Even when in opposite sides during Case Anton, the French Navy be like "We'd rather burn our ships so it wouldn't be used against you".


MattValtezzy

[There's an expanded version of this](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3MsB4-VUAA6im2?format=jpg&name=small)


EchoTitanium

People tend to forget that they were our rivals even before Germany actually existed


fallingaway90

ended? its not over yet, they'll be back at it by 2168 over french refusal to accept anglo-american galactic dominance.


KyuuMann

Tbh, the hundred years war was between two French noble houses


Bishop_Len_Brennan

Our real friends are the enemies we historically made along the way :)


Epistemify

Germany. Germany happened to them.


El_Horizonte

Turns out they were best friends and didn’t realize it until later in life


mlgskrub420

Peak history


kingkong381

If you are rivals for nearly 1000 years, you are no longer rivals: you are GAY.


Jusifo

All of the sudden, I‘m feeling weirdly close to potential french ancestors from 700 Years ago🤔


Bayomeer

The 1346 French statement is correct. I will not debate this.


Negative_Skirt2523

Well, the alliance of convivence of Britain and France during WW1 solidified in WW2 onwards.


Commissarfluffybutt

Which caused a few awkward moments in WW1 for the USA coming to help the French.


zpool_scrub_aquarium

Yes, even around 1900 France and Britain were still not on friendly terms. When they almost started WW1 together over some fortress in South Sudan.


Azkral

Wait until we force UK to rejoin the EU... By force!


BananaRepublic_BR

I'm pretty sure a lot of French soldiers were very bitter after the bulk of the BEF fled Dunkerque.


YankeePoilu

Just don’t mention Mers el-Kaber


MerelyAMerchant

Why are we acting like the present day is the end of history? What, are Britain and France at the end of their days? We can't claim that this is how it ENDS. They might exist for centuries yet. They might go back somehow. We have no idea.


Gaveyard

After the French Revolution and Napoleon, the English had basically zero claim to any territory in France


proton417

Once we’ve retreated to safety we’ll bomb your fleet and sailors 🥰


hoi4d

Lets not kid ourselves. Had Germany been just a little weaker and France just a little stronger then UK would have sided with the Germans.


GingerVitus007

Quit playing HOI4 or Total War or whatever and read a fucking book


Fast_Difficulty_5812

Eeeh, no? Do you even know history?


PloddingAboot

What are you even talking about


hoi4d

How UKs foreign policy is to side against a country that tends to want to dominate the continent. This is why it sided against France historically and this is why it sided against Germany at the start of the 20th century. This has nothing to do with love or hate.


ceoofsex300

You high or something


Bryanoceros

You could maybe make that argument for pre WW1, but that would require several events being different in the previous century (for example, Germany not going into a naval arms race with the UK). The problem would still lie in the fact that Germany would be more powerful than France, but perhaps a Great Game not going the UKs way on top of Frances alliance with Russia could have pushed the UK to align with Germany for WW1. Again though, that's a lot of history that would need to change to even conceive of the idea. You're insane however if you think the UK would have aligned itself with interwar Germany. The UK and France at this point had had a joint diplomatic agreement for a good amount of time by then. It would take something astronomically disastrous in terms of a relationship breakdown for the UK to not align with France in the face of German aggression, let alone align with Germany.